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Usman Khawaja

I mean surely this guy deserves a place ahead of north, Smith... I'd say he should have been next in line if any middle order batsmen was out of the team. I think it's the bowling which is troubling australia hence their going with 4 bowlers and an all-rounder in steve smith.
 
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I think Khawaja will come in at 3 to replace Ponting after the Ashes series.
 
Was at this game for a while, Khawaja had a very poor misfield when Bollinger was bowling and it went for 4 ... Dougie wasn't pleased :asif
 
Who Say he is a Test Player. Scored 65 of 45 balls in a T20 match and around 33 runs in last innings.
 
Seeing some of the posts here... there's a profile of the aeronautical engineer for you. :hafeez

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He seems very loose outside off for a Test quality player. Just needs to tighten up.
 
he seemed fine for the other 57 balls but that one just got throught, i do agree it wasn't a ball which usually gets wickets normally easily negotiated, I like how he batted for the rest of the innings very compsed.
 
IMO he is going to be one of those frustrating players who have so much talent, perform well in the domestic arena but then for the first 10-12 test matches don't do as well as they should or to their potential.

At the start of his career he is going to be a bit like Ravi Bopara, Umar Amin, Philip Hughes, Umar Akmal etc who all have so much potential but just keep getting out by the odd delivery.
 
Pakprideuk said:
IMO he is going to be one of those frustrating players who have so much talent, perform well in the domestic arena but then for the first 10-12 test matches don't do as well as they should or to their potential.

At the start of his career he is going to be a bit like Ravi Bopara, Umar Amin, Philip Hughes, Umar Akmal etc who all have so much potential but just keep getting out by the odd delivery.
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Umer Akmal smashed a century in his first test innings and followed it up with a 70 odd in the second innings so he doesn't really fit category of the Amins and the Boparas
 
He needs to figure out where his off stump is, there's a big gap between his bat & pad when playing outside off.
 
more than anything its nerves i think, hes had three good starts and hasnt made much of them, i think if he hits one or two decent knocks he well settle down and play better.
 
Whippy said:
He's alright, but there's something missing.
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I think it's a mental thing. His whole demeanour in the Tests he's played is different to when he scores runs in lesser matches.

Still, mental fortitude is what makes Test players. He needs to sort it out as Shaun Marsh is waiting.
 
Wised up said:
experience? That is his 2nd match.. give him a break.
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I'm entitled to point out a player's deficiences when he is as overhyped on this forum as Usman is

Said it over the winter - looked like a glorified village player against England in four out of four innings

Weak outside off, prone to cross-batted swipes, often followed a boundary with a dismissal (no patience)

Doesn't look any inch test-class yet - might have to be an Amla situation, where he goes away and comes back after sorting his head and his technique out
 
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Whippy said:
I'm entitled to point out a player's deficiences when he is as overhyped on this forum as Usman is

Said it over the winter - looked like a glorified village player against England in four out of four innings

Weak outside off, prone to cross-batted swipes, often followed a boundary with a dismissal (no patience)

Doesn't look any inch test-class yet - might have to be an Amla situation, where he goes away and comes back after sorting his head and his technique out
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Glorified village player? Thats going a bit too far.

He played 2 innings in the Ashes, warm ups don't count.
 
Contrary to popular belief, warm-ups do count. What happens in them is often reflected in the test matches. He looked scared of Tremlett and didn't have the technique for Bresnan's heavy balls in the corridor

In the test, he made a 37 and a 20 IIRC. Not great scores, okay scores, but that doesn't matter - as Lord Geoffery says, 'I watch their feet and their hands'. And Usman did not look a test-class player, at all. Swann bowled one over to him on his off-stump with a square leg and he took the bait with an aerial sweep. Then Anderson bowled two identical wide balls to test the waters later - he hit a four and got out. Not up to the task on that evidence!

Could succeed enormously in the future but I get the feeling that it's not yet his time
 
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Agree with you. I also think he's overhyped - average to good talent but not exceptional. Usman needs to start performing soon or risk being ditched by Australia
 
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His record in the Sheffield Shield is impressive, but bowling standards in Australian domestic cricket have declined considerably. Usman could do with an extended stint in England
 
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Whippy said:
His record in the Sheffield Shield is impressive, but bowling standards in Australian domestic cricket have declined considerably. Usman could do with an extended stint in England
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u cant judge aplayers ability over 4 innings, his first class record is excellent, to then say the bowling hes been facing in domestic is weak is laughable, its like ian bell, everyones raving about him but is it because the bowling standards in tests have dropped so hes cashing in,
remember its taken him 6 years of loyal backing of the selectors to finaly justify his place, same with broad anderson, usman if givena consistent run in the team will be a class act
 
A Mark Butcher clone..not a very pretty sight. Needs time I suppose.
 
Why is it laughable to say Usman has cashed in against weaker bowling and struggled against international bowling? ...he has.
 
Looks decent at best! his Technic aint the greatest and needs to certaibly tighten up between bat and pad when playing attack or defence!
 
Whippy said:
Why is it laughable to say Usman has cashed in against weaker bowling and struggled against international bowling? ...he has.
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lets judge him after 20 tests, and in particular the indian bowlers he faces later this year, im sure hes gonna boost his average just like the so called greats like bell and co
 
He might not even be in the team to face India if he doesn't sort himself out, there is always competition

Who called Bell a great btw?
 
average. would have been hard for him to get into Pakistan's current top 6 batsmen in test yet he is in Australia's top 6!
 
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srh said:
average. would have been hard for him to get into Pakistan's current top 6 batsmen in test yet he is in Australia's top 6!
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Not sure how you can say that given he has only played 1 1/2 Tests so far. We generally don't discard players after a poor performance in 1 1/2 Tests (unless they are a spinner).

That said, his performance has not set the world on fire thus far.
 
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Whippy said:
His record in the Sheffield Shield is impressive, but bowling standards in Australian domestic cricket have declined considerably. Usman could do with an extended stint in England
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Why, are you looking to replace Cook or Bell?
 
Haven't seen him bat in Srilanka, he looked ok in the Ashes, even though he threw away his wicket after good starts. Let's see how he performs in the 2nd Test, if he fails then I am afraid Shaun Marsh will make it, I like Marsh better.
 
people saying he is average don't forget how difficult it is to score. See the other players like Watson,Haddin,Clarke (1st innings) will call them average too.
 
Well he plays well of both feet but does need to tighten up all todo with staying side on , will make runs given time and if batted in the right position.
 
He shouldn't even be playing for Australia! He's not an Aussie! He wasn't born here!!!!!!

/Random_Aussie
 
srh said:
average. would have been hard for him to get into Pakistan's current top 6 batsmen in test yet he is in Australia's top 6!
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Looks like a decent batsman. Has got some good shots and a good defense as well.
 
Random Aussie said:
Why, are you looking to replace Cook or Bell?
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lol

No, we just have the strongest domestic league by far, and it benefits the majority of people who play in it. Usman would be a shrewd overseas signing in 2012. Soz cwappy Sheffield Shield

malakian said:
He shouldn't even be playing for Australia! He's not an Aussie! He wasn't born here!!!!!!

/Random_Aussie
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big lols
 
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Gah, missed it. Looks like a handy innings
 
gove him time he needs time to settle in and media is putting too much pressure on him.
 
He's been ok so far, doesn't look put of his depth but needs to make a more substantial contribution next game. Marsh is pressing for a spot and is probably better suited to batting six.

And Malakian, the other English poster here show good knowledge of cricket and good for the banter. You pretty much either troll or cheerlead. You can contribute more than that.
 
Usman isn't the sort of player who suits number six in a batting lineup. If they really want to back their new players then Marsh should be brought in and Usman should be pushed further up, but in order to do this then somebody has to go. Let's have a look at the current top five.

Watson is undroppable. That much is clear. Even if he never makes a hundred.

Hughes is both talented and unorthodox, a potent combination. He looked very capable in difficult conditions the other night. For all the criticism he's had a pretty good short career so far, aside from his short-of-a-length mental block against English bowlers. Any of his deficiencies can be overcome at such a young age. I am glad to see him being picked.

Clarke - the captain. Also looks to be finding some form again. Fireproof.

Mike Hussey is still looking awesome. Got top-class hundreds against England at the Oval, Brisbane and Perth, and his 95 on a minefield looks to have secured this test match. It's good to see Australia finally planning for life after him, but he's still Mr Cricket.

It pains me to say it, but Ponting is the one holding back the young players. I'm not sure how he is viewed now vis a vis selection - are they giving him this one series, has he been told he gets India and South Africa, or what? In test cricket, it's not only the lack of runs but, more significantly, the shoddy dismissals that have become recurring themes. I actually still rate the Punter very highly, particularly in one-day cricket, but has his time passed?
 
Wow some quality posts were lost in this thread from Whipster/RA.

Khawaja now needs to score big in the 3rd Test ... Marsh has sealed his spot at 6 imo when Punter comes back.
 
Yea big pressure on Uzzie to put together a good knock. All good for the team as a whole though, competition for places is something we haven't had for a while.
 
I think a Fifty won't save him. Ponting please stay with your Daughter for one more Test. Enjoy your life. Let the lad have a chance.
 
Marsh out for 141. Uzzie still in with a sniff, just needs to score another 139 runs
 
Uzzie is going to do it tough to get the 130 more runs he needs for his 142.
 
well i think hughes, khawaga, marsh are fighting for 2 spots, hughes is not safe with his spot, i'd open with either khawaja or marsh to partner watson cause hughes is basically a walking wicket
 
big oppurtunity for him to make a score while playing with the tail
 
From what little i've seen he looks ordinary to me...

If he was still in Pakistan he would probably be rotting away in the domestic scene.
 
Khawaja is best played either opening or one down.

The guy scores a century in the warm up match as an opener, but Hughes gets the nod ahead of him, and Khawaja is sent down the order at 6 to bat with the tail(where Hussey would've been ideal)

When Dubya finally leaves, Marsh is sent at 3 where Khawaja should've been playing.

Looks like someone doesn't want him in the XI. Ponting's return will keep Khawaja on the bench.
 
Look so far all he has shown at international level is that he can hang around. Which is a start, better than the reverse.

Hasn't been helped by MJ and Haddin, neither of them seem to think its part if their job to hang around. But needs to more given Marsh debut.
 
PakPosheeda said:
Khawaja is best played either opening or one down.

The guy scores a century in the warm up match as an opener, but Hughes gets the nod ahead of him, and Khawaja is sent down the order at 6 to bat with the tail(where Hussey would've been ideal)

When Dubya finally leaves, Marsh is sent at 3 where Khawaja should've been playing.

Looks like someone doesn't want him in the XI. Ponting's return will keep Khawaja on the bench.
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No we expect our batters to be able to bat anywhere from 1 to 6. Batting at 6 should not stop him making runs if he is good enough.

Batting order does not shuffle to accommodate a bloke who hasn't scored a test fifty yet.
 
He is unfortunate here, he may miss out again. In the team's interests, Clarke should declare overnight.
 
Random Aussie said:
No we expect our batters to be able to bat anywhere from 1 to 6.
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Then why not send Hughes at 6 and the centurion opener in the warm up match to open in the test as well?? I thought Khawaja should've opened with Marsh at 6.

Random Aussie said:
Batting order does not shuffle to accommodate a bloke who hasn't scored a test fifty yet.
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But Marsh gets to play at number 3 while on debut? How many fifties had he scored before he was sent at 3?
 
bad luck but Australia should keep him in the the squad.He still needs a fair run.
 
Guess Usman will be out in the next test, can't keep a legend like Ponting out for Khawaja.
 
PakPosheeda said:
Then why not send Hughes at 6 and the centurion opener in the warm up match to open in the test as well?? I thought Khawaja should've opened with Marsh at 6.



But Marsh gets to play at number 3 while on debut? How many fifties had he scored before he was sent at 3?
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What you seem to want is special treatment for him.

He hasn't done anything to deserve that. You can bag Hughes but he has 2 hundreds against SA in SA. Which is why he is getting an extended run even though he probably won't make it.
 
Random Aussie said:
What you seem to want is special treatment for him.
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Like Marsh was given the special treatment of being sent at 3 without a previous test 50?

You're changing your goal posts for different guys.


Let me spell it out again: One guy scores a 100 in the warmup match as an OPENER and is subsequently sent at number 6 in the next test.

The other guy bats at 6 in the warmup and is sent at number 3 in his DEBUT.

And then I'm the one wanting special treatment for Khawaja?

If anything, the treatment he's receiving is unfair. One way or another, he should've been batting up high instead of one of Hughes or Marsh. Your arguments are contradictory for both of these guys.
 
so how should he miss the next Test ? he remained Not Out. maybe he had scored more runs than Marsh. unlucky to sit out.
 
WiiiCKET said:
so how should he miss the next Test ? he remained Not Out. maybe he had scored more runs than Marsh. unlucky to sit out.
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He's unlucky, but for Marsh to be dropped would be even more unlucky. Unfortunately Uzzie had an extra Test to make a big score but was unable to. Marsh took his opportunity and scored 140-odd when OZ were in a tough spot with wickets tumbling batting at first drop and deserves to go on with things. As for Dubya, they're not going to drop him after all he has done for Australia. Players who have performed over an extended period of time deserve more leeway with selection because you know what they are capable of doing. He would have to have an extended lean trot with the bat to be dropped.
 
Unlucky for Usman but that is cricket. He will have to miss out if Ponting returns for the 3rd test.
 
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