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Cleared by pcb not icc , icc may recheck him
That is an ICC accredited centre iirc. So it's as good as ICC clearing him. And he's not a chucker anyway.
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Cleared by pcb not icc , icc may recheck him
What a disaster that will beI am not sure if he chucks or not but here are a few things I do know:
Many people who are saying he chucks do not actually know what chucking is. They see a slightly bent arm in a still photo and think that proves he chucks. But that is not chucking. The important question is whether he straightens his arm after bending it and if he does whether the straightening is within 15 degrees.
He has been cleared twice by an ICC accredited lab in a reputable institution.
I expect the pressure from Indians and the drama / optics of Green's dramabazi (possibly more dramabazi to come from others) will ensure he will get reported at some point soon. I assume he will be suspended pending the results of the test. I expect it will happen fairly soon, maybe in the group stage of the world cup, maybe even sooner.
His whole career isn't just for playing one match v India.Here’s another possibility - Pakistan might not play him in the next T20 vs Australia and have him bowl straight in the India match so even if he gets called in the game, he would have served his purpose already.
Yes apparently LUMs lab is icc accredited. So in theory he can take his next action test there too.That is an ICC accredited centre iirc. So it's as good as ICC clearing him. And he's not a chucker anyway.
Yes apparently LUMs lab is icc accredited. So in theory he can take his next action test there too.
Wouldn’t that be redundant as he has been cleared by that centre?

Over a period of time is a vague quality….No, it won't be redundant, assuming umpires call him again.
Bowlers' actions can deteriorate over a period of time and if the umpires suspect that his action has changed, they can send him to LUMS again.
Any kind of no ball is a free hit.What does the rule book say? If someone is no balled for chucking, will the batting team still get free hit?
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Yeah but he hasn't been called has he ? His action hasn't changed, I agree. It's the same .Over a period of time is a vague quality….
Someone who has been tested in same lab in very recent past is likely to pass the test unless something has drastically changed…
I’m uzi Tariq’s case action seems same as before too
I think he’ll be reported soon (probably the first WC game he plays)Yeah but he hasn't been called has he ? His action hasn't changed, I agree. It's the same .
He is very likley to be reported.Can't recall last time Pakistan produced a clean offie. The fun fact is, even PCB and Pak fans knows Usman Tariq chucks. That's why they don't want to play anymore matches until the India game on Feb 15th.
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Yeah. Then again, Pakistan is boycotting WT20 as promised...so 15th Feb is not happening.He is very likley to be reported.


This has to be called out at a much lower level. When that doesn't happen this is what happens. Does anyone call any afghanistan spinners out for chucking even though they do pose problems for batsmen. So it is not exactly an agenda. There is a reason why Narine is not bowling in internationals. He knows he will be called out. In leagues you can get away.BTW, what is it with Australian batters calling out Pakistani bowlers openly and accusing them of Chucking?
Moises Henriques called out Hasnain.
David Warner questioning Zaman Khan.
And now Cam Green is saying Usman Tariq chucks.
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How does he chuck? Does his arm straighten when he bowls?Can't recall last time Pakistan produced a clean offie. The fun fact is, even PCB and Pak fans knows Usman Tariq chucks. That's why they don't want to play anymore matches until the India game on Feb 15th.
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I am not sure if he chucks or not but here are a few things I do know:
Many people who are saying he chucks do not actually know what chucking is. They see a slightly bent arm in a still photo and think that proves he chucks. But that is not chucking. The important question is whether he straightens his arm after bending it and if he does whether the straightening is within 15 degrees.
He has been cleared twice by an ICC accredited lab in a reputable institution.
I expect the pressure from Indians and the drama / optics of Green's dramabazi (possibly more dramabazi to come from others) will ensure he will get reported at some point soon. I assume he will be suspended pending the results of the test. I expect it will happen fairly soon, maybe in the group stage of the world cup, maybe even sooner.
This has to be called out at a much lower level. When that doesn't happen this is what happens. Does anyone call any afghanistan spinners out for chucking even though they do pose problems for batsmen. So it is not exactly an agenda. There is a reason why Narine is not bowling in internationals. He knows he will be called out. In leagues you can get away.
That is an ICC accredited centre iirc. So it's as good as ICC clearing him. And he's not a chucker anyway.
May be because he doesn't has Bumrah's auraBTW, what is it with Australian batters calling out Pakistani bowlers openly and accusing them of Chucking?
Moises Henriques called out Hasnain.
David Warner questioning Zaman Khan.
And now Cam Green is saying Usman Tariq chucks.
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I would use the word "overlooking". They are notoriuos for overlooking or forgiving things like chucking, fixing, playing overage players. Since iCC doesn't micromanage PCB lets it play out.If tariq is found chucking by icc, then u will have to ask if pcb is encouraging this
Can't recall last time Pakistan produced a clean offie. The fun fact is, even PCB and Pak fans knows Usman Tariq chucks. That's why they don't want to play anymore matches until the India game on Feb 15th.
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Hahah...keep it slow mate...may cause heart attack to someGive him the first over on the 15th February.
I’d have him wear a baggy long sleeve jersey which allows him to extend his elbow over the 15 degree limit.
Also, make him wear a white headband and have him try to release the ball in front of his forehead.
Because if I chucked, you—or most people on this forum—would not be able to get anywhere near a single delivery from me. However, the scenario changes completely when I am required to rotate my arm and bowl legally. As was evident in Saeed Ajmal’s case, he was never the same bowler once the ICC forced him to remodel his action and bowl with integrity. He no longer generated the same turn he did when he was effectively throwing the ball like a javelin.Why our Indian friends wasting time here, your team can easily score 250 plus anywhere in the world. So why bother oneself with such a low profile spinner because the last time I heard... before guys like Abhishek nothing matters.

There you go @The Bald EagleGive him the first over on the 15th February.
I’d have him wear a baggy long sleeve jersey which allows him to extend his elbow over the 15 degree limit.
Also, make him wear a white headband and have him try to release the ball in front of his forehead.

I second brother YTB, because you know it's going to be a forfeit game anyway...so why not have fun
Players can say whatever they want.How Many time bumrah reported by umpire? And how Many player's arw are openly accused Bumrah for chucking.
Usman Tariq is reported by umpire and many international player's complaint about him during the live match.
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Little context here: Usman Tariq has cleared his action two times. What’s cheating if a bowler who has been cleared of suspect action bowls against India?Because if I chucked, you—or most people on this forum—would not be able to get anywhere near a single delivery from me. However, the scenario changes completely when I am required to rotate my arm and bowl legally. As was evident in Saeed Ajmal’s case, he was never the same bowler once the ICC forced him to remodel his action and bowl with integrity. He no longer generated the same turn he did when he was effectively throwing the ball like a javelin.
This is cricket, not baseball. You must rotate your arm to deliver the ball legally. Unfortunately, many Pakistani bowlers seem to reach international cricket without meeting this most basic requirement of the game. “If you can’t beat them, cheat them” appears to be the mantra here.
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These things you mention have been common in India too. Most of your u-19 players have fudged but you tell us it's ok as they are still u19 without anyway of us verifying.I would use the word "overlooking". They are notoriuos for overlooking or forgiving things like chucking, fixing, playing overage players. Since iCC doesn't micromanage PCB lets it play out.
They got penalized. How many age fudgers were penalized by Pakistan?These things you mention have been common in India too. Most of your u-19 players have fudged but you tell us it's ok as they are still u19 without anyway of us verifying.
ANd your theory falls flat when you consider he was called out in a Pakistani league.
Somehow worlds biggest chucker Narine is comfortable bowling in IPL where he has thrown rocks for 10+ years unnoticed.
Kedar Jadhav bowling is straight from gully cricket. One of the most common tactic used in gully as they play tennis ball cricket in tight spaces so they intentionally create low release awkward angles to stop boundaries. Mainly not a wicket taking tactic. Just to use him for defensive overs. Kedar was a converted bowler by MSD.Somewhat similar to Indias Kedhar Jadhav who used to bowl from the side angle


Thats not the point, point is Jadhav bowled liked that aswellKedar Jadhav bowling is straight from gully cricket. One of the most common tactic used in gully as they play tennis ball cricket in tight spaces so they intentionally create low release awkward angles to stop boundaries. Mainly not a wicket taking tactic. Just to use him for defensive overs. Kedar was a converted bowler by MSD.
lolIt’s not the same as icc clearing him, if he is reported, icc will decide where to send him for testing
ur an indian and than read your next two post, you are complaining.Where have indians complained? Aussies have complained, why r u dragging indians into this?
Not even close. Release angle is way lower. That's it Much like Malinga and other srilankan bowlers.Thats not the point, point is Jadhav bowled liked that aswell
Interesting, and we were given lectures by indians how pause is illegal.Bowlers' pause can now be deemed unfair
The ICC has asked match officials to use their discretion to decide if the bowlers' pause before delivery is unfair play
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Bowlers' pause can now be deemed unfair
The ICC has asked match officials to use their discretion to decide if the bowlers' pause before delivery is unfair playwww.espncricinfo.com
Icc have not written any rules about the pause before bowl but asked umpires to use their own judgement. So its not a straightforward question just like Murali bowling pre controversy. If any umpire is not happy, he can declare it as no ball.This is receipe for a disaster.Icc should make it black and white instead of asking umpires. At worst I think, unofficially icc may have said its illegal and call it out but rules won't be written down.
As per article ashwin , hafeez, raina etc used to do it till 2014.I dont think they have done it later. If its legal they may have continued it, as its a great tactic in t20 generation .I am.guessing that umpires may have quietly said " once u start the bowling action, u cant stop it".Interesting, and we were given lectures by indians how pause is illegal.
Just like how joshila is spreading mis info on icc accredited labs
Irony, who has been winning matcges due to untested chuckers( Ashwin and Bumrah) and harbjahan before.Interesting, and we were given lectures by indians how pause is illegal.
Just like how joshila is spreading mis info on icc accredited labs
He needs to be tested, what is wrong in testing if he is not chucking?LOL, poor conspiracy theorists who often cook khayali pulao about Bumrah's action are having a hard time.
He needs to be tested, what is wrong in testing if he is not chucking?
The only thing louder than your sledging is the crying after losing.
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Usman has already passed his test 2 times...He needs to be tested, what is wrong in testing if he is not chucking?
Xavier Barlett responded when being asked about the gesture Cameron Green made after his dismissal:
“No idea. I walked out there, and it was tough conditions. I'm not even sure who he got out to. I was there trying to scramble to put my pads on, as it was a tough condition. Shadab bowled really well. These are really tough conditions and great learning for us moving forward.“
So why will ICC umpires randomly call him when he has already been cleared by an ICC accredited testing centre ?It’s not the same as icc clearing him, if he is reported, icc will decide where to send him for testing
correction Ashwin is a "chucker exposer" lol HE is the first one to bring the attention to full sleeve chuckers like Saeed Ajmal. What is next SHane warne is a chucker?Irony, who has been winning matcges due to untested chuckers( Ashwin and Bumrah) and harbjahan before.
Ya let us line up Starc, Hazlewood, Rabada for chucking testing because a random forum poster wants it.He needs to be tested, what is wrong in testing if he is not chucking?
He would have been if he were an Indian.correction Ashwin is a "chucker exposer" lol HE is the first one to bring the attention to full sleeve chuckers like Saeed Ajmal. What is next SHane warne is a chucker?
There are two reasons . One is action itself. Second is prolonged pause which can be deemed unfair imagine someone holding the ball for 10 full seconds before releasing it. Umpires can call it dead ball.Indians are jumping up and down like they are sitting on a hot plate about usman, when they had kedhar yadav in their side, bumrah, ashwin type guys who went unnoticed.
Nobody cares about your opinions here because Usman has cleared himself 2 times now.. you guys can cry rivers.
First of all, 10 seconds?? are you crazy??There are two reasons . One is action itself. Second is prolonged pause which can be deemed unfair imagine someone holding the ball for 10 full seconds before releasing it. Umpires can call it dead ball.
First of all, 10 seconds?? are you crazy??
Second, the action has been tested 2 times already unlike all indian bowlers, and it was clear...
Stop crying now because an aussie player and goras are crying as well...
International player's accused Usman Tariq for chucking during live match ,this is embarassing for any bowler , very soon he will be report by the umpiresIndians are jumping up and down like they are sitting on a hot plate about usman, when they had kedhar yadav in their side, bumrah, ashwin type guys who went unnoticed.
Nobody cares about your opinions here because Usman has cleared himself 2 times now.. you guys can cry rivers.

Yeah because some people like you are saying..??? YEAH OK ICC NAVEENNothing to do with Cam Green. This prolonged pause is deliberate distraction. It has to be a reasonably continuous flow. International umpire can call it a dead ball and even penalize the team
LOL... already cleared 2 times... Not afraid to do it again.. We are not bumrahs and ashwinsInternational player's accused Usman Tariq for chucking during live match ,this is embarassing for any bowler , very soon he will be report by the umpires
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He has been given a clean chit by the PCB and we all know what the credibility of Pakistan and the PCB is.LOL... already cleared 2 times... Not afraid to do it again.. We are not bumrahs and ashwins

O bhai... He got tested in the ICC accredited lab in Pakistan..Not some railway station's Lab.He has been given a clean chit by the PCB and we all know what the credibility of Pakistan and the PCB is.
And no One raised the question about Bumrah apart from Pakistani who are living in delusional.
For a testing, umpire has to be report him. Itna bhi nahi pta kya ?
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He tested in Pakistan, that's enough for us. Pakistan has zero credibility.O bhai... He got tested in the ICC accredited lab in Pakistan..Not some railway station's Lab.
WHY ARE YOU CRYING BECAUSE YOUR GORA MASTER IS CRYING AS WELL???

bow down to your gora masters and keep crying... Usman is playing world cup and you can do nothing about it atmHe tested in Pakistan, that's enough for us. Pakistan has zero credibility.
Now you can keep crying and whinning because World has exposed Pakistani chuckers.
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He was reported in PSL and tested by icc accredited labHe has been given a clean chit by the PCB and we all know what the credibility of Pakistan and the PCB is.
And no One raised the question about Bumrah apart from Pakistani who are living in delusional.
For a testing, umpire has to be report him. Itna bhi nahi pta kya ?
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He is not tested by ICC. #FactHe was reported in PSL and tested by icc accredited lab
Itna bhi nahi pta?

Acha , who knows who bow down the gorabow down to your gora masters and keep crying... Usman is playing world cup and you can do nothing about it atm
So why will ICC umpires randomly call him when he has already been cleared by an ICC accredited testing centre ?
First you stop bowing down because green did some actions???Acha , who knows who bow down the gora
Faf , banton, now green accused him for chucking but SAAR ITS INDIAN PROPAGANDA.First you stop bowing down because green did some actions???
or banton did some action?? O bhai MOVE ON and stop crying now

They have clean actions. Bumrah has dodgy action.Ya let us line up Starc, Hazlewood, Rabada for chucking testing because a random forum poster wants it.
MonafiqatIndians are jumping up and down like they are sitting on a hot plate about usman, when they had kedhar yadav in their side, bumrah, ashwin type guys who went unnoticed.
Nobody cares about your opinions here because Usman has cleared himself 2 times now.. you guys can cry rivers.
He was never been tested, who knows the guys didn’t look like having clean action.correction Ashwin is a "chucker exposer" lol HE is the first one to bring the attention to full sleeve chuckers like Saeed Ajmal. What is next SHane warne is a chucker?
I think same should apply to all with some dodgy action .Usman has already passed his test 2 times...
No one is crying except indians and their Gora masters because they are unable to play him.I think same should apply to all with some dodgy action .
Bumrah should be the first one to be checked.
He clearly doesn’t have a clean action.