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Usman Tariq's bowling action cleared by the PCB [Updated Post# 29]

After he brings his arm down it straightens at the bottom, as he comes forward his elbow is probably a low 15 degrees. It's not chucking, just very unorthodox.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Even @Rajdeep will agree with this. :kp

Correct na brother Raju? :yk :inti
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Nah. He didnt try to influence umpire in any form or shape. After the dismissal while walking back, he tried to mock his action near the dugout. Like most, even Cam Green was shocked how such a blatant chucker is even allowed to play in international cricket and not screened out at a junior level. Now whether umpire reports him or not is not his decision.

Understood na brother Bhaag


:kp
 
Ball Blazer said:
The only thing louder than your sledging is the crying after losing.
@Devadwal

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https://twitter.com/x/status/2017862894529003802

Saeed Ajmal speaking on social media:

“Performance of Pakistan’s spinner was excellent—truly worthy of praise. Everyone played very well, but in this match one thing really hurt me, and in fact, hurt the entire nation of Pakistan. After getting out, Cameron Green’s reaction was unacceptable. That was not sportsmanship—it was very painful, very disappointing, and it made the whole of Pakistan angry.”

“We have plenty of quality spinners. This is not something new. I also remember back in 2009 when Pakistan was playing in Abu Dhabi against Australia. They said, “My action is faulty,” But later my action was cleared, and Usman Tariq’s action is also clear. If you are in pain, then go and talk to the ICC. Why is there a need to create such drama? Every player has his own respect.”

“On this matter, ICC should have taken action. The match referee should have reacted to this issue in yesterday’s match. There must be action, and such action that no person can disrespect another’s dignity on the grounds. If you have a problem, if you cannot play against us, then what fault is ours?”

“Yes, there must be a reaction. Why are such things being said inside the ground? This is absolutely wrong. This should not happen. On this matter, I strongly request that Mohsin Naqvi report it, so that tomorrow no one can put a stain on our spinners.”

“When it was an Indian player, that was fine, but when it is our player, then you get hurt. We have to perform well in the World Cup. Our team is being deliberately tried to be broken. This always happens before every World Cup. It has to stop.”
 
BouncerGuy said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2017862894529003802

Saeed Ajmal speaking on social media:

“Performance of Pakistan’s spinner was excellent—truly worthy of praise. Everyone played very well, but in this match one thing really hurt me, and in fact, hurt the entire nation of Pakistan. After getting out, Cameron Green’s reaction was unacceptable. That was not sportsmanship—it was very painful, very disappointing, and it made the whole of Pakistan angry.”

“We have plenty of quality spinners. This is not something new. I also remember back in 2009 when Pakistan was playing in Abu Dhabi against Australia. They said, “My action is faulty,” But later my action was cleared, and Usman Tariq’s action is also clear. If you are in pain, then go and talk to the ICC. Why is there a need to create such drama? Every player has his own respect.”

“On this matter, ICC should have taken action. The match referee should have reacted to this issue in yesterday’s match. There must be action, and such action that no person can disrespect another’s dignity on the grounds. If you have a problem, if you cannot play against us, then what fault is ours?”

“Yes, there must be a reaction. Why are such things being said inside the ground? This is absolutely wrong. This should not happen. On this matter, I strongly request that Mohsin Naqvi report it, so that tomorrow no one can put a stain on our spinners.”

“When it was an Indian player, that was fine, but when it is our player, then you get hurt. We have to perform well in the World Cup. Our team is being deliberately tried to be broken. This always happens before every World Cup. It has to stop.”
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A banned chucker :ajmal2 is taking about another chucker . Nice 👍

:klopp :kp
 
Don't think the lads chucking, an unusual action, no need to drop to Pakistani And Bangladeshi posters intellect and call every unorthodox action chucking....
 
DeadlyVenom said:
What makes you think it a chuck brother?
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Biradar , my club would not play me in the 11 if I bowled like that . Trust me , he will not play much int cricket with that action .
Btw , you think he is the stand & deliver [ spin version ] of Lasith Malinga ?
 
Human786 said:
Biradar , my club would not play me in the 11 if I bowled like that . Trust me , he will not play much int cricket with that action .
Btw , you think he is the stand & deliver [ spin version ] of Lasith Malinga ?
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I think its a combination of two ugly things - round low arm like Malinga and pause. But nothing that appears to be a chuck.
 
mazkhan said:
As a dr you should know bumrah is double jointed whether due to that hyperemobility he takes advantage of 15 degree rule in certain deliveries he probably does just like akhtar probably did and murali certainly did.

But they are born with hypermobility

Nothing is telling me that usman tariq has hypermobility
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Bumrah needs ti be tested like Akhtar was
 
Rajdeep said:
How is this not chucking? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2017594790238679395
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Its blatant chucking, malinga , zaman all have straight arms even with their unorthodox side action
One thing about these sena players they call it out right .

This guy looks like skimming a pebble across water what we used to do as kids 😆

Even with the kinks hes still slow the batsmen nearly falls asleep waiting for the ball to reach 😆

Absolute clown show by the pcb with selection always will cause some controversy and comical scenes .
 
Devadwal said:
Some 🤡🤡 don't know that this report is done under pcb observation, not by ICC.

Pakistanis are last person who we can trust. #FarkHai .

Just like when Pakistan play bilateral series at home, umpire are Pakistani but they are ICC match official , they favour pakistan we have seen in the past or last two T20 , That's too when match is live telecast.


:klopp :kp
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Your trust means nothing if the governing body has granted accreditation. Look it up what it means
 
Cameron Green apology twist as ex-Test teammate Usman Khawaja backs Pakistan spinner Usman Tariq

Pakistan spinner Usman Tariq has hinted that he received an apology from Australian allrounder Cameron Green after last week’s ‘chucking’ controversy.

Green mocked Tariq’s bowling action during the second of three T20 matches between to the two sides ahead of the World Cup. The irate Aussie, dismissed by the spinner, seemed to mimic Tariq’s sidearm, slinging action as he walked into the dugout.

Tariq later responded in an Instagram post, sharing a video of a child crying with the caption: “After getting out.”

It was just Tariq’s third T20I but not the first controversy surrounding his bowling, with experts twice clearing his peculiar action after he was reported in both the 2024 and 2025 Pakistan Super League seasons.

ICC regulations deem an action illegal if a player’s elbow extends by more than 15 degrees during the delivery stride, which starts from the point where the bowling arm reaches horizontal until the ball is released.

There was no indication that officials or the Australian team lodged a complaint — but there was a suggestion from Tariq himself that it is now case closed.

“Apology accepted,” he wrote on Instagram with halo and salute emojis.

Green has yet to address the matter publicly, but his former Australian Test teammate Usman Khawaja has sided with Tariq.

Sharing an opinion from cricket journalist Paul Dennett, who said he “felt so sorry” for the Pakistan spinner, Khawaja said it was “spot on”.

“There aren’t many things worse than being called a ‘chucker’ in cricket,” Khawaja said.

“The stigma is real. The man is just doing his best and been cleared twice.

“Let’s have some perspective and understanding and stop jumping to conclusions.”

Tariq has previously explained that he has “two elbows” in his arm and that it bends naturally.

“There are two corners on my (elbow) which makes it hard for me to straighten,” he told The National late last year.

“That makes confusion for the spectators. I have given two tests at labs in Pakistan. My action was cleared.

“When I went for the test, within one week, it was cleared. I didn’t get the answer that you have to change your action, or improve the degrees. I was confident about my action because I know that I am not throwing.

“I would love to give a message on this platform that every single person who is commenting on these things, they should study first about cricket, then they should go for the allegations.

“If you don’t have knowledge about cricket and you are just commenting or sharing your thoughts, then illiteracy can kill knowledge.

“It is better to have knowledge, then after you can comment on anyone.”

Tariq also dismissed Matthew Kuhnemann in Pakistan’s 90-run win in the second ODI.

He missed selection for the 111-run victory in the third and final ODI on Sunday but is in the squad for the T20 World Cup — if Pakistan still take part in the wake of their decision to boycott the match against India.

 
Ball Blazer said:
Cameron Green apology twist as ex-Test teammate Usman Khawaja backs Pakistan spinner Usman Tariq

Pakistan spinner Usman Tariq has hinted that he received an apology from Australian allrounder Cameron Green after last week’s ‘chucking’ controversy.

Green mocked Tariq’s bowling action during the second of three T20 matches between to the two sides ahead of the World Cup. The irate Aussie, dismissed by the spinner, seemed to mimic Tariq’s sidearm, slinging action as he walked into the dugout.

Tariq later responded in an Instagram post, sharing a video of a child crying with the caption: “After getting out.”

It was just Tariq’s third T20I but not the first controversy surrounding his bowling, with experts twice clearing his peculiar action after he was reported in both the 2024 and 2025 Pakistan Super League seasons.

ICC regulations deem an action illegal if a player’s elbow extends by more than 15 degrees during the delivery stride, which starts from the point where the bowling arm reaches horizontal until the ball is released.

There was no indication that officials or the Australian team lodged a complaint — but there was a suggestion from Tariq himself that it is now case closed.

“Apology accepted,” he wrote on Instagram with halo and salute emojis.

Green has yet to address the matter publicly, but his former Australian Test teammate Usman Khawaja has sided with Tariq.

Sharing an opinion from cricket journalist Paul Dennett, who said he “felt so sorry” for the Pakistan spinner, Khawaja said it was “spot on”.

“There aren’t many things worse than being called a ‘chucker’ in cricket,” Khawaja said.

“The stigma is real. The man is just doing his best and been cleared twice.

“Let’s have some perspective and understanding and stop jumping to conclusions.”

Tariq has previously explained that he has “two elbows” in his arm and that it bends naturally.

“There are two corners on my (elbow) which makes it hard for me to straighten,” he told The National late last year.

“That makes confusion for the spectators. I have given two tests at labs in Pakistan. My action was cleared.

“When I went for the test, within one week, it was cleared. I didn’t get the answer that you have to change your action, or improve the degrees. I was confident about my action because I know that I am not throwing.

“I would love to give a message on this platform that every single person who is commenting on these things, they should study first about cricket, then they should go for the allegations.

“If you don’t have knowledge about cricket and you are just commenting or sharing your thoughts, then illiteracy can kill knowledge.

“It is better to have knowledge, then after you can comment on anyone.”

Tariq also dismissed Matthew Kuhnemann in Pakistan’s 90-run win in the second ODI.

He missed selection for the 111-run victory in the third and final ODI on Sunday but is in the squad for the T20 World Cup — if Pakistan still take part in the wake of their decision to boycott the match against India.

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Good gesture from Cam Green. Showed he's the bigger man.
 
CricVet said:
Here is a video on AU Fox to add light to rhe matter with an entertaining end 😀

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"The next time he will play, is when Pakistan will have to win a game at the world cup." - Brad Haddin

Haddin knows business
 
Green was out of line here for mocking Usman. Came across as an entitled brat. Good that he apologised, if he did. Having said that, it’s still the weirdest action going around in international cricket.
 
Why is it that the people who say he is chucking can't ever seem to come up with actual technical analysis of his action? Just because someone's action looks weird doesn't automatically mean they are chucking.
 
charlie007 said:
Nothing wrong in testing however, for that to happen he needs to be reported by the umpires in the game, not by fans.
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Same goes with Usman khan. Hims not been reported or Bumrah not been reported doesn’t make them non-Chuckers untill and unless tested.
 
DRsohail said:
Same goes with Usman khan. Hims not been reported or Bumrah not been reported doesn’t make them non-Chuckers untill and unless tested.
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Do you think Wasim Akram chucked? If a fan thought he did, should he be tested? Or should we consider him a chucker until he got tested and cleared?
 
Unusual action, but I am personally not convinced. It's certainly not chucking, but cricket action should be a smooth flow without delay.

And we have the biggest chucker in cricket aka Bumrah, with the tunda action that shouldnt be allowed in cricket. That javellien thrower watta bowler has only been allowed because of BCCI and that nation can't produce a genuine pace bowler with a proper action. Almost 1.6 billion and yet you produce a proper lethal thunder pace bowler, quite a joke for a country that only plays cricket
 
Those who are crying for his action should go back in time and watch harbhajan, kedhar bowling...
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Why is it that the people who say he is chucking can't ever seem to come up with actual technical analysis of his action? Just because someone's action looks weird doesn't automatically mean they are chucking.
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he has a bent arm when delivering

If its double jointed , hyperextension/hypermobility then its fine

But it isn't is it , hes come out with something else a 2 cornered elbow and his arm won't be straight , well thats chucking and it looks like a cock and bull story ajmal did of an accident and bent elbow . You can't have chuckers in the game ?
 
mazkhan said:
he has a bent arm when delivering

If its double jointed , hyperextension/hypermobility then its fine

But it isn't is it , hes come out with something else a 2 cornered elbow and his arm won't be straight , well thats chucking and it looks like a cock and bull story ajmal did of an accident and bent elbow . You can't have chuckers in the game ?
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Most of the deliveries he bowls, he bowls with an upright arm and a high angle, so chucking is out of the question there to begin with.

The delivery he bowled to Cam Green where he comes around with a sidearm/horizontal arm and bends his elbow is what is making some morons think that he is chucking.

Bending your elbow is not against the rules. You are allowed 15 degrees of bent elbow in your arm, as long as does not straighten after it's bent. And his arm does not straighten.

Even with that Cam Green delivery you can see that he locks in his elbow, he locks in his shoulder, and he is pivoting and twisting over his front leg like a sling. Like Malinga.

If you've studied Maths till fourth grade you can tell what a 15 degree angle looks, the rest is clearly visible by paying a little bit of attention. But why do that when it easier to just call someone a chucker because his action looks weird, right?
 
charlie007 said:
Do you think Wasim Akram chucked? If a fan thought he did, should he be tested? Or should we consider him a chucker until he got tested and cleared?
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Wasim had very clear action. No fan doubted it.
If they did , then they can argue about testing him . Its their right to day that.
 

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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:

@BouncerGuy I think Anil Chaudhary's security should be increased now. :inti​

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You just made sure no Indian poster/bot visits this thread now.

These morons will divert themselves to this poor umpire's Twitter account though.

:qdkcheeky
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:

@BouncerGuy I think Anil Chaudhary's security should be increased now. :inti​

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Indian Ex-Umpire Anil Chaudhary Confirms Pakistan Spinner Usman Tariq Has Legal Bowling Action; Watch VIDEO​


Anil Chaudhary shared a video on social media and claimed that the controversial Pakistani has a legal bowling action. The video is going viral on social media and the video is getting mixed reactions from the fans on both sides of the border.​


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Indian Ex-Umpire Anil Chaudhary Confirms Pakistan Spinner Usman Tariq Has Legal Bowling Action; Watch VIDEO

Former Indian umpire Anil Chaudhary has come out in support of Pakistan spinner Usman Tariq amid chucking allegations. Anil Chaudhary shared a video on social media and claimed that the controversial Pakistani has a legal bowling action.
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Tariq also bowled in the Indian affiliated ILT20 without any issues.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Most of the deliveries he bowls, he bowls with an upright arm and a high angle, so chucking is out of the question there to begin with.

The delivery he bowled to Cam Green where he comes around with a sidearm/horizontal arm and bends his elbow is what is making some morons think that he is chucking.

Bending your elbow is not against the rules. You are allowed 15 degrees of bent elbow in your arm, as long as does not straighten after it's bent. And his arm does not straighten.

Even with that Cam Green delivery you can see that he locks in his elbow, he locks in his shoulder, and he is pivoting and twisting over his front leg like a sling. Like Malinga.

If you've studied Maths till fourth grade you can tell what a 15 degree angle looks, the rest is clearly visible by paying a little bit of attention. But why do that when it easier to just call someone a chucker because his action looks weird, right?
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without hyperextension/ hypermobility its not possible to keep the arm bent it will straighten.

Akhtar bent arm had hyperextension and he was deemed under 15 degrees murali was tested many times and cleared.

Whether these 2 would pass the testing parameters today which changed that initially passed ajmal and then made him a chucker because match deliveries were tested replicated in the lab and it was blatant chucking unlike the former 2 he never had hyperextension so it wasnt even possible for him to bowl doosra without chucking even his normal offie was chucking when tested , hafeez also was banned when he deliberately wanted to bowl with effort or deliberately his action deteriorated he started chucking shoaib malik was the same .
The other one was that tall fast bowler from pakistan who was a chucker Shabbir ahmed he deliberately his action started deteriorating in a game.

where the match situation balls delivered in a match are tested is up for debate so the bowler is made to deliver the balls in a match which are suspected whether akhtar and murali would pass in those new parameters remains to have been seen because they more than likely exceeded 15 degrees in the various games they played over their careers most likely in long test games the action would deteriorate.

The problem people have is bumrah why hasn't he been tested because under these new parameters he is most likely going over 15 degrees on certain deliveries or throughout a test match game.

Back to tariq unless you can prove he is double jointed and has hyperextension then comeback because I can tell you he doesn't he is stiff like a tree trunk and moves like a slow oil tanker he doesn't have the flexibility murali, akhtar and bumrah have. So the moment he plays hes gonna get called out and when that delivery is tested and he is made to replicate those deliveries IN A MATCH , ill wager it won't be less than 15 degrees.

The solution is dont pick chuckers unless they are like murali , akhtar and bumrah and naturally double jointed flexible and have hyperextension where some natural physical anatomy excuse Can be given unlike blatant chuckers like tariq ajmal and their gobblydook stories of accidents and 2 cornered elbows.
 
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mazkhan said:
without hyperextension/ hypermobility its not possible to keep the arm bent it will straighten.

Akhtar bent arm had hyperextension and he was deemed under 15 degrees murali was tested many times and cleared.

Whether these 2 would pass the testing parameters today which changed that initially passed ajmal and then made him a chucker because match deliveries were tested replicated in the lab and it was blatant chucking unlike the former 2 he never had hyperextension so it wasnt even possible for him to bowl doosra without chucking even his normal offie was chucking when tested , hafeez also was banned when he deliberately wanted to bowl with effort or deliberately his action deteriorated he started chucking shoaib malik was the same .
The other one was that tall fast bowler from pakistan who was a chucker Shabbir ahmed he deliberately his action started deteriorating in a game.

where the match situation balls delivered in a match are tested is up for debate so the bowler is made to deliver the balls in a match which are suspected whether akhtar and murali would pass in those new parameters remains to have been seen because they more than likely exceeded 15 degrees in the various games they played over their careers most likely in long test games the action would deteriorate.

The problem people have is bumrah why hasn't he been tested because under these new parameters he is most likely going over 15 degrees on certain deliveries or throughout a test match game.

Back to tariq unless you can prove he is double jointed and has hyperextension then comeback because I can tell you he doesn't he is stiff like a tree trunk and moves like a slow oil tanker he doesn't have the flexibility murali, akhtar and bumrah have. So the moment he plays hes gonna get called out and when that delivery is tested and he is made to replicate those deliveries IN A MATCH , ill wager it won't be less than 15 degrees.

The solution is dont pick chuckers unless they are like murali , akhtar and bumrah and naturally double jointed flexible and have hyperextension where some natural physical anatomy excuse Can be given unlike blatant chuckers like tariq ajmal and their gobblydook stories of accidents and 2 cornered elbows.
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Like I said, most of the deliveries he bowls are bowled with a high angle and an upright arm, so he shouldn't have any issues. It is only this delivery where he goes sidearm/slingy that some people claim he is chucking. But he is not. His arm is not straightening and unless you can prove the angle is more than 15 degrees your claim is nothing more than an accusation. Also, he has already said that he is double-jointed which explains why he able to bowl a delivery like thsi to begin with. The only question mark in his action is the pause, which is not allowed. But since he has the same pause with every delivery he can rightly argue that the pause is a part of his action.

The solution is to leave the reporting to the umpires and the ICC. Not every bowler should look the same. Unorthodox bowlers like Usman Tariq are part of the beauty of the game. Calling someone a chucker is a serious accusation that carries a very negative stigma with it. People should be very careful throwing that word around when they don't have concrete evidence to back their claims.
 
DRsohail said:
Wasim had very clear action. No fan doubted it.
If they did , then they can argue about testing him . Its their right to day that.
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You’re not getting the point. It’s not about any fan thinking if he’s chucking or not. Yeah they have the right to discuss and argue about anything, but the fans don’t determine if someone is chucking or not - they just have a worthless opinion - half think a bowler chucks, the other half think he doesn’t. For any bowler suspected of chucking, it needs to be the on field umpire that needs to make that call. That’s when the testing process is initiated.
If you still don’t understand what I’m trying to say, I’ll leave you with your own thoughts.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Like I said, most of the deliveries he bowls are bowled with a high angle and an upright arm, so he shouldn't have any issues. It is only this delivery where he goes sidearm/slingy that some people claim he is chucking. But he is not. His arm is not straightening and unless you can prove the angle is more than 15 degrees your claim is nothing more than an accusation. Also, he has already said that he is double-jointed which explains why he able to bowl a delivery like thsi to begin with. The only question mark in his action is the pause, which is not allowed. But since he has the same pause with every delivery he can rightly argue that the pause is a part of his action.

The solution is to leave the reporting to the umpires and the ICC. Not every bowler should look the same. Unorthodox bowlers like Usman Tariq are part of the beauty of the game. Calling someone a chucker is a serious accusation that carries a very negative stigma with it. People should be very careful throwing that word around when they don't have concrete evidence to back their claims.
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He is not double jointed

Hyperextension hypermobility refers to joints that can bend or straighten backward beyond their normal, healthy range of motion. Often called being "double-jointed," it is caused by lax ligaments and connective tissues. While common in dancers and yogis, it can lead to joint instability, pain, and increased injury risk.


This much is clear

Second unless you have that condition its not possible to release the ball whilst the arm is kinked without exceeding the 15 degrees .

Any other person who trys a kink action exceeds it significantly without hypermobility hence why so many bowlers have been banned from pakistan including m hasnain recently he doesn't have hyperextension .

Only shoaib akhtar had proper hyperextension and m amir and junaid khan had a lesser degree of these flexible joints not to the point where murali akhtar and bumrah had it .
Murali was a freak because he had it in his wrist as well.
 
The problem isn't the side arm action because malinga and zaman did it but their arms were dead straight

The problem with the tariq guy is the bent elbow and how much it straightens and when he goes sideways he comes a baseball picher , which in cricketing rules is a chuck or a throw . Why won't he keep his arm straight throughout?
 
And I am vexed because wasim jnr has been discarded for him when wasim jnr is a much better all round crickter and is a very good white ball bowler 90mph capable and yorkers and slower balls hes also a much better athlete fielder and can hold a bat as a tailender unlike this gimmick that is usman tariq .

What is the need of this selection when you have shadab abrar
A proper conventional offie in nawaz whose in decent nick
Shadab and nawaz can also bat and gun fielders.

And then you have saim and agha who are capable bowlers and more potential than what you call a part time option they are fully capable of bowling 4 overs each if needed and capable of picking wickets .
 
mazkhan said:
And I am vexed because wasim jnr has been discarded for him when wasim jnr is a much better all round crickter and is a very good white ball bowler 90mph capable and yorkers and slower balls hes also a much better athlete fielder and can hold a bat as a tailender unlike this gimmick that is usman tariq .

What is the need of this selection when you have shadab abrar
A proper conventional offie in nawaz whose in decent nick
Shadab and nawaz can also bat and gun fielders.

And then you have saim and agha who are capable bowlers and more potential than what you call a part time option they are fully capable of bowling 4 overs each if needed and capable of picking wickets .
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I guess you don't watch baseball much! You show a picture of him pitching a ball as a baseball pitcher does, I will NEVER argue again.

He is allowed to bowl in such an ugly way because a free ride has been given to a much uglier bowler to the eyesight called Bumrah. When a deceptive board/organization like BICC plays dirty, then everyone gets the right to be unfair to the game. Not once any of the BICC big TWO stooges had the guts to question some of the Indian bowlers to get tested, since they know that their cow would stop providing milk.

As far as the reason of him being in the side: it is obvious that at this stage, he is awkward and hard to get used to initially in the game. By the time one figures him out, his quota of 24 balls is done. Also, SL is NOT the place for seamers, so Wasim won't be the first choice. As far as I remember, last Wasim played a T20 game on a flat/spin deck, he was terrible. He is more of an ODI bowler as of now.
 
charlie007 said:
You’re not getting the point. It’s not about any fan thinking if he’s chucking or not. Yeah they have the right to discuss and argue about anything, but the fans don’t determine if someone is chucking or not - they just have a worthless opinion - half think a bowler chucks, the other half think he doesn’t. For any bowler suspected of chucking, it needs to be the on field umpire that needs to make that call. That’s when the testing process is initiated.
If you still don’t understand what I’m trying to say, I’ll leave you with your own thoughts.
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So in short, you or the players don't have the right to question him. Let BICC 🐰 umpires decide it. Those players who question him on field, must get fines/suspension.
 
CricVet said:
So in short, you or the players don't have the right to question him. Let BICC 🐰 umpires decide it. Those players who question him on field, must get fines/suspension.
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I didn’t question it, although I have every right to if I wanted. But my questioning or not should and does not have any bearing at all. It’s the umpires who have to make that call for every bowler and that’s the only thing that matters.
Players calling any bowler shouldn’t have any fines or suspensions - it’s just their opinion and it holds no value. Umpires must make a call for any testing process to follow. It’s not that difficult to process.
 
charlie007 said:
I didn’t question it, although I have every right to if I wanted. But my questioning or not should and does not have any bearing at all. It’s the umpires who have to make that call for every bowler and that’s the only thing that matters.
Players calling any bowler shouldn’t have any fines or suspensions - it’s just their opinion and it holds no value. Umpires must make a call for any testing process to follow. It’s not that difficult to process.
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Hopefully, you are not one of the Indian trolls who freely roam around here. Since you might know more about ICC laws, would you provide your input about the following:

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CricVet said:
I guess you don't watch baseball much! You show a picture of him pitching a ball as a baseball pitcher does, I will NEVER argue again.

He is allowed to bowl in such an ugly way because a free ride has been given to a much uglier bowler to the eyesight called Bumrah. When a deceptive board/organization like BICC plays dirty, then everyone gets the right to be unfair to the game. Not once any of the BICC big TWO stooges had the guts to question some of the Indian bowlers to get tested, since they know that their cow would stop providing milk.

As far as the reason of him being in the side: it is obvious that at this stage, he is awkward and hard to get used to initially in the game. By the time one figures him out, his quota of 24 balls is done. Also, SL is NOT the place for seamers, so Wasim won't be the first choice. As far as I remember, last Wasim played a T20 game on a flat/spin deck, he was terrible. He is more of an ODI bowler as of now.
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The sidearm delivery bent elbow , delivery stage , visible pause, visible kink straightening of arm when delivered baseball ⚾️ pitch to me . Now look at malinga smooth action arm straight throughout all stages arm straight when ball released.

Now Im going to ask you again why doesn't he keep his arm just straight and there would be no issue , and plz dont bring in gobblydook of 2 cornered elbows and childhood accidents .
 
charlie007 said:
You’re not getting the point. It’s not about any fan thinking if he’s chucking or not. Yeah they have the right to discuss and argue about anything, but the fans don’t determine if someone is chucking or not - they just have a worthless opinion - half think a bowler chucks, the other half think he doesn’t. For any bowler suspected of chucking, it needs to be the on field umpire that needs to make that call. That’s when the testing process is initiated.
If you still don’t understand what I’m trying to say, I’ll leave you with your own thoughts.
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I know suspension comes when umpires reports and testing happens. But we fans are here to discuss who can possibly been chucking.
For umpires to report that, they need to have backing from a neutral governing body not chrrent ICC.
 
As for bumrah he has hyperextension and is double jointed
Obviously hes been given free pass due to muralitharan .

But that was in the past , the icc should come down upon bumrah and test him on their new parameters where the testing is done mimicking deliveries bowled In an actual game and it will be most likely he is taking advantage of his excuse of hyperextension and exceeding that 15 degrees

Remember ajmal would chuck then get called go to the lab hoodwink them by being in the limits .
When the parameters changed where he got called and then went to the lab and they said no bowl the particular delivery you bowled in that game guess what sherlock he was chucking, and thats when he became maulvi and victim and saying accident in childhood , conspiracy against him and pakistan when we know what it was and what mainly shane watson was screaming hes chucking
 
CricVet said:
Hopefully, you are not one of the Indian trolls who freely roam around here. Since you might know more about ICC laws, would you provide your input about the following:

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Did Green do that while at the crease? He’s entitled to express his disappointment away from there to his teammates. It means nothing. Are you saying players can’t show their disappointments anywhere?
Players have gotten away with a lot worse behavior ON the pitch, do you agree? Again, it’s the umpires that make a call and that’s the only thing that matters. In the screenshot you posted- “umpires have the power to apply immediate on field penalties for unacceptable behavior” - here, it was neither on field nor the umpires deemed it necessary to apply any penalties for actions away from the pitch where the dissent needs to have taken place for them to potentially act. Hope that makes it clear.
 
DRsohail said:
I know suspension comes when umpires reports and testing happens. But we fans are here to discuss who can possibly been chucking.
For umpires to report that, they need to have backing from a neutral governing body not chrrent ICC.
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Fans are entitled to have their opinion and we always do. It’s immaterial in the larger scheme of things. I’m not going to comment on neutrality of ICC, just arguing based on facts on process of reporting bowlers suspected of chucking.
 
charlie007 said:
Did Green do that while at the crease? He’s entitled to express his disappointment away from there to his teammates. It means nothing. Are you saying players can’t show their disappointments anywhere?
Players have gotten away with a lot worse behavior ON the pitch, do you agree? Again, it’s the umpires that make a call and that’s the only thing that matters. In the screenshot you posted- “umpires have the power to apply immediate on field penalties for unacceptable behavior” - here, it was neither on field nor the umpires deemed it necessary to apply any penalties for actions away from the pitch where the dissent needs to have taken place for them to potentially act. Hope that makes it clear.
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One must be blind not to see the drama on field. Learn the definition of onfield. Stop whataboutism like a troll. The law is CLEAR about penalties which don't have to be applied instantly, but the fact is that they do get applied with discretion - what players playing for what teams (that bring more finances to the table).

LoL at players being human. Like a troll, you started to throw tantrums when law was presented to you. Learn to accept facts and acknowledge them. Being human does not mean to start throwing your tantrums for just because. Every professional has to follow certain guidelines/rules, and breaking them has consequences. But it is a shameless BICC institution, where emotions are allowed for an exhibition IF one feels entitled.
 
mazkhan said:
The sidearm delivery bent elbow , delivery stage , visible pause, visible kink straightening of arm when delivered baseball ⚾️ pitch to me . Now look at malinga smooth action arm straight throughout all stages arm straight when ball released.

Now Im going to ask you again why doesn't he keep his arm just straight and there would be no issue , and plz dont bring in gobblydook of 2 cornered elbows and childhood accidents .
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I don't see him bending arm more than many others. IF you are complaining about why ICC allowed 15 degrees of arm bent, I am sure that they did it after many observations of the majority of the bowlers.

As far as sidearm bowling is concerned, go watch baseball to see how they pitch. Exaggerations won't make your point valid.
 
CricVet said:
One must be blind not to see the drama on field. Learn the definition of onfield. Stop whataboutism like a troll. The law is CLEAR about penalties which don't have to be applied instantly, but the fact is that they do get applied with discretion - what players playing for what teams (that bring more finances to the table).

LoL at players being human. Like a troll, you started to throw tantrums when law was presented to you. Learn to accept facts and acknowledge them. Being human does not mean to start throwing your tantrums for just because. Every professional has to follow certain guidelines/rules, and breaking them has consequences. But it is a shameless BICC institution, where emotions are allowed for an exhibition IF one feels entitled.
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If you wish to debate like a disrespectful, arrogant, and hotheaded kid, leave me alone. Debate the point and leave the poster outside of it. I can’t stoop to your level and talk like an uninformed moron.
 
charlie007 said:
If you wish to debate like a disrespectful, arrogant, and hotheaded kid, leave me alone. Debate the point and leave the poster outside of it. I can’t stoop to your level and talk like an uninformed moron.
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Only a moron kid would respond in such a menner once out of the argument. I understand the frustration kid. Now roll along.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:

@BouncerGuy I think Anil Chaudhary's security should be increased now. :inti​

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Indian Ex-Umpire Anil Chaudhary Confirms Pakistan Spinner Usman Tariq Has Legal Bowling Action; Watch VIDEO​


Anil Chaudhary shared a video on social media and claimed that the controversial Pakistani has a legal bowling action. The video is going viral on social media and the video is getting mixed reactions from the fans on both sides of the border.​


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Indian Ex-Umpire Anil Chaudhary Confirms Pakistan Spinner Usman Tariq Has Legal Bowling Action; Watch VIDEO

Former Indian umpire Anil Chaudhary has come out in support of Pakistan spinner Usman Tariq amid chucking allegations. Anil Chaudhary shared a video on social media and claimed that the controversial Pakistani has a legal bowling action.
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This is gonna make a lot of Indian kids mad
 
mazkhan said:
Its blatant chucking, malinga , zaman all have straight arms even with their unorthodox side action
One thing about these sena players they call it out right .

This guy looks like skimming a pebble across water what we used to do as kids 😆

Even with the kinks hes still slow the batsmen nearly falls asleep waiting for the ball to reach 😆

Absolute clown show by the pcb with selection always will cause some controversy and comical scenes .
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Brother you really need to study what chucking is 😂😂
 
Hyder said:
Brother you really need to study what chucking is 😂😂
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Hes a chucker
Thats why he is hidden in 3rd game

Once he plays again if pakistan is not kicked out or sanctioned with the recent controversy going on with forfeit match then expect a gora match umpire to report him and then he'll go abroad to get tested .

And will be banned just like hasnain was.

Notice how hasnain is finished at intl level

But im not to bothered about this comical sideshow by the selection committee big question is why has wasim jnr being discarded to protect whom so they can stay in team or make comeback and a uk uncle uber driver type club cricketer has been selected In salman mirza why so when he fails hasan ali and rauf will be selected back into squad .
 
charlie007 said:
Fans are entitled to have their opinion and we always do. It’s immaterial in the larger scheme of things. I’m not going to comment on neutrality of ICC, just arguing based on facts on process of reporting bowlers suspected of chucking.
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I am commenting on neutrality of ICC ad well as suspected chucker and will do.
 
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