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Veere Di Wedding; challenges South Asian social norms

The film appears to be India's version of the popular HBO series "Sex and the City" that ran from 1998 to 2004 in the United States.

I had a chance this week to see Veere Di Wedding, the latest Bollywood flick released recently in Silicon Valley, CA. The movie’s story revolves around the lives of four childhood friends Kalindi (Kareena Kapoor), Avni (Sonam kapoor), Meera (ShikhaTalsania) and Sakshi (Swara Bhaskar).

The film appears to be India’s version of the popular HBO series “Sex and the City” that ran from 1998 to 2004 in the United States. Sex and the City features lives of four unmarried career women living in New York City. The series explores changing women’s’ roles in American society and how the changes are impacting workplaces and women’s relationships with men.

Directed by Shashanka Ghosh, it is a story of four drinking, smoking, foul-mouthed female friends from upscale South Delhi. These are well-educated young women asserting their independence by challenging social norms in a highly patriarchal Indian society. The behaviour and the language of the female characters in the movie has shocked and outraged many in India. The screening of the movie has been banned in Pakistan and slammed by Hindu groups in India.

As the name suggests, Veere Di Wedding (Friend’s Wedding) features a wedding. It is the celebration of the union of Kalindi with Rishabh (Sumeet Vyas) that brings together the four main female characters. They share their stories and the drama unfolds.

Each of the four characters is defying traditions in their own way with the common thread being refusal to accept arranged marriages within their caste and class. Meera has married an American against her parents’ will. Sakshi is a frustrated wife of an Indian man in London when he catches her using a mechanical device to pleasure herself. Avni, a divorce lawyer, is dumped by an Indian man picked by her mother as a “suitable” mate for her. Kalindi has been happily living with Rishabh in Australia. She only reluctantly agrees to solemnize the relationship upon Rishabh’s insistence.

The film and the caste have generated a lot of controversy in both India and Pakistan. Box office receipts so far suggest the controversy has helped sell more tickets.

Swara Bhaskar drew sharp criticism from several Pakistani celebrities for saying that “Pakistan is a failing state run by sharia laws” and then she added “why should we take pleasure in all the silly things that happen in Pakistan? Apologies to all my Pakistani friends…”

Swara was heavily trolled by right-wing Hindu groups after she protested the rape-murder of an 8 year old Muslim Kashmiri girl Asifa by posting a picture of herself holding a placard that said: “ I am Hindustan. I am Ashamed. 8 years old ! Gangraped! Murdered!! In ‘Devi’-sthan temple!!! #Kath

“At least Indians and Pakistanis have finally managed to find something to agree about,” Bhaskar told BuzzFeed News. “Maybe this is the Indo-Pak peace talk we needed.”

Veere Di Wedding is not suitable for moviegoers of all ages. The film would shock and outrage many South Asians for its content. It does, however, begin to explore the possibility of significant social and workplace impact of the growing population of educated career women in the region. It is recommended for adult audiences who have watched R-rated western movies in the past.

https://dailytimes.com.pk/254114/veere-di-wedding-challenges-south-asian-social-norms/

While I still haven't got round to watching Gangs of Wasseypur, the highly recommended Indian film, I will definitely put this on my watch list. Like Bend it like Beckham and Missisippi Masala, this film is striking a blow for the feminist movement in India so I can see it featuring on Netflix quite soon.
 
While I still haven't got round to watching Gangs of Wasseypur, the highly recommended Indian film, I will definitely put this on my watch list. Like Bend it like Beckham and Missisippi Masala, this film is striking a blow for the feminist movement in India so I can see it featuring on Netflix quite soon.

Also check out "angry Indian goddesses"& "parched" if you are looking for feminist Indian movies.
 
Why is Pakistan afraid of happy women?

Almost ten years ago, in a remarkable speech, Nigerian author Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie talked about the danger of the single story.

Tell a single story about a group of people again and again, she warned, and that is what they will be reduced to.

Show a people as one thing, as only one thing, over and over again, and that is what they become.

In Pakistan’s popular culture, consisting of its television dramas, its own films and the films from across the border it deems acceptable enough to be screened, there is a single story told about women over and over again:

It is the story of the suffering woman, the woman who has myriad injustices done to her but who nonetheless — and this is the important part — continues to suffer silently, stoically, patiently, with utter resignation and without any fight.

This is the story of women that Pakistan is happy to accept. Narratives that challenge this story are met with resistance — consider Mahira Khan’s Verna, which follows this narrative of the suffering woman, but then flips it by having her take charge and fight back, and which was, therefore, initially banned in the country and only released after much fervour.

But as the recent Central Board of Film Censors ban of Bollywood film Veere Di Wedding shows, narratives that tell an entirely different story about women are deemed completely unacceptable and are rejected outright:

A story in which women party and dance with their friends, a story in which women have fun and celebrate in each other’s company, in which women are joyous and happy.

There are other stories about women that Pakistan also rejects. The story of women who bleed, for example.

Earlier this year, the same censor board also banned Pad Man, the Akshay Kumar-starrer biopic about an Indian man who became a pioneer of menstrual health when he devised a low-cost way producing sanitary pads.

Apparently, the censor board members couldn’t even bring themselves to watch the film before refusing to issue a clearance certificate for it.

“We cannot allow a film whose name, subject and story are not acceptable yet in our society,” a board member told reporters, because even though the vast majority of Pakistani women bleed, the single story of the suffering woman does not allow room for women to bleed unless it is from a wound inflicted on them

As a point of contrast, at around the same time of the ban on Pad Man, Bollywood epic Padmavaat, with its scene of a large group of women stoically walking into a large fire to commit mass suicide to a score of dramatic music, was deemed completely acceptable for Pakistan and was screened in theatres across the country.

The single story of the suffering woman is not pernicious and damaging because it is untrue. Far from it:

Women suffer everyday in Pakistan, from everything from domestic abuse to lack of access to health facilities, from rape to illiteracy to harassment in the workplace and on the roads.

No, the danger of the single story, as Adichie explains, is not that it is untrue, but that it is incomplete. Of course women suffer — far too much than is comprehensible, and far too often with no justice, restitution or respite.

The mini-series Akhri Station released earlier this year, for example, was celebrated for articulating the different forms of oppression of Pakistani women thoughtfully and carefully.

But to only show suffering women, and only in one way, in a way that romanticises their hurt and glorifies their pain, over and over again, across TV channels and cinema screens, to the score to maudlin and melancholy music and close-ups of tear-stricken faces, is to make suffering their only story, the only possible outcome of a woman’s life, in the popular imagination.

This is why banning a film like Veere Di Wedding is a mistake. It is a light-hearted film with a simple premise, one that has been done before by Bollywood countless times, and which is therefore not particularly revolutionary on its own:

A group of rich, beautiful childhood friends gather together when one of them is about to get married, and then shenanigans ensue (think Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara from a few years ago).

The only thing revolutionary about it is that, for the first time in Bollywood history, the group of friends is all women, as opposed to all men.

A mainstream, glitzy Bollywood film about a group of female friends, hanging out and talking to each other, should not be such a momentous occasion in South Asian cinematic history, and yet here we are.

From the film’s trailer as well as from its reviews across the border, the film certainly has its flaws. It seems to be a little frivolous, a little heavy on the mindless entertainment, a little too focused on the ultra-rich and ultra-beautiful. But so what?

Lord knows we have enough frivolous, mindless films about men and their adventures (and those films all seem to come with a heavy dose of misogyny and toxic masculinity baked right in).

What makes Veere Di Wedding — and other films like it — important is the contrast they provide to the suffering woman story.

Despite what may be a superficial, glamorous veneer, this is still a film about women living their lives, having their own fears and desires, having fraught but fulfilling friendships with one another.

It is still a film about women letting loose and talking to each other about their conflicted and complicated feelings about love, marriage and, and yes, sex.

Here is a film in which no woman gets raped or beaten up or forced into child marriage. Instead, it is a film where women have fun in each other’s company, tell dirty jokes to each other and laugh, where their clashing opinions about romance and men and careers and ambition are all hashed out.

In short, it is a film in which women are happy and joyous and celebratory. And in a sea of suffering women stories, happy women stories should not only be allowed but are in fact quite necessary in presenting a fuller, deeper picture of women and their lives.

When suffering is the default role given to women, women’s joy and depictions of this joy, has its own kind of power.

Having lots of different kinds of stories about women, stories that contradict each other, stories that add depth and nuance and contrast to each other, is a requirement in the much-needed process of recognising women in the fullness of their humanity.

https://images.dawn.com/news/1180224

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Didn't wanna share the above article when i read it 2 weeks ago,but since cap has opened a thread now,i think its an interested read by a Dawn blogger.
 
I read this story in the Sunday Times, and in that article, the film is described as loosely based on the American show about single women, Sex in the City. Would that be a fair comparison? I think the American inspiration is definitely there, even the title Veer di Wedding sounds like a take on My Best Friend's Wedding. Otherwise why not call it Verr di Vyaa?
 
Can't we have all these Bollywood masala threads merged into one?
Sick of it.
 
Looks pretty awful though. Also, I can’t watch anything with these sonam kapoor types
 
Can't we have all these Bollywood masala threads merged into one?
Sick of it.

It's not really a masala topic, it made the Sunday Times today due to the feminist aspect, apparently hardline Hindu groups have been protesting at some of the subject matter.
 
pakistani women dont need this crap.. they are a handful as it is.. they are only victims in TV dramas and whatnot. in real life, they are very smart, and have found ways to survive in our society.. they have women like kareena kapoor for breakfast.
 
It's not really a masala topic, it made the Sunday Times today due to the feminist aspect, apparently hardline Hindu groups have been protesting at some of the subject matter.

They can protest as they want cap, but it's not banned by the country.
 
Not seen it but heard that it is a disgusting movie showing what people do in the private moments. Next they will be showing what people do in the bathroom in the name of freedom of expression. Glad to see such filth being banned in Pak. Don't corrupt our youth like that lot are doing. Bollywood glorifies everything bad and sinful as being good and open minded. Don't sell your soul so Satan.
 
Many times, some of the assertive & prescriptive comments on this forum are pretty conservative (medieval).

Leave your opinion as your personal preference and let law be the only judge. If things are religiously, socially or morally unacceptable to some, feel free to abstain for yourself. Live and let live?
 
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Censorship in Southeast Asia is hilarious.

Inconsistent, overreaching, and often political.
 
Censorship in Southeast Asia is hilarious.

Inconsistent, overreaching, and often political.

The movie was not censored in India, it was banned in Pakistan and apparently hardlije Hindu groups protested against it in India.
 
The movie was not censored in India, it was banned in Pakistan and apparently hardlije Hindu groups protested against it in India.

I meant in general.

India had a huge issue with Padmavati.
 
The movie was not censored in India, it was banned in Pakistan and apparently hardlije Hindu groups protested against it in India.

Pakistan is a Muslim country, the ban would happen in any Islamic country regardless of the continent. I think this has become more of an issue in India because it isn't a Muslim country so reasons for the protests there are less obvious.
 
Watched it. Did not like the movie because of issues with Film making. Ill Etched characters....and lack of interesting conflicts..and easily solved conflicts if any.

However, I have no issues with content of the movie. For too long, India was okay with Grand Masti and many buddy men movies...so there is absolutely no wrong at all...and it is a really important step for women liberation in india. Women Empowerment is not always about struggling women...it is also about financially previlaged women and their right to be who they are as well.

I am glad it made more than 100 crores, next movie in the genre will be a little better. somebody has to take a step..

Having said that the better movies which made similar points were "Lipstick under by Burkah" and " Anrgy Indian Goddess"...
 
Does the movie promote promiscuous behavior among females?
If yes then pray tell how is it an effort to promote women empowerment?
 
Does the movie promote promiscuous behavior among females?
If yes then pray tell how is it an effort to promote women empowerment?

Neo-liberalism wants to transform the whole social reality into commodity, and which esp. targets woman, as not only she embodies such attributes which push towards consumerism - "sexuality" - but also because a woman is a potential mother, the root of the family, itself a barometer of a society's well being - by "empowering woman" they basically empower capitalism while at the same time emasculating the civilization (just see the demographic projections of countries like Italy or Germany around 2100 - childless and old -, even the Black Plague didn't hit them that hard).
 
Pakistan is a Muslim country, the ban would happen in any Islamic country regardless of the continent. I think this has become more of an issue in India because it isn't a Muslim country so reasons for the protests there are less obvious.

I like that is an excuse for everything cap, you just say because it's a Muslim country it's banned.

Also India has conservatives, so they can protest as they want, without causing public damage.
 
Does the movie promote promiscuous behavior among females?
If yes then pray tell how is it an effort to promote women empowerment?

Does the movie promote? Do you think star wars promotes sound in Vacuum concept?
Or Wolf of Wall Street promotes crony capitalism?
 
I like that is an excuse for everything cap, you just say because it's a Muslim country it's banned.

Also India has conservatives, so they can protest as they want, without causing public damage.

What I don't understand is why you need to keep bringing the discussion back to Pakistan. It is a Muslim country, and as such, like alcohol and gambling, you are going to get bans on films which aren't compatible with the lifestyle. That's obviously not the case with a non_Muslim country like India, so I don't really see the comparison.
 
Does the movie promote promiscuous behavior among females?
If yes then pray tell how is it an effort to promote women empowerment?

I haven't seen it, but the article I read in a British paper described it as an Indian version of Sex in the City, I never watched Sex in the City either for what it is worth, so can't really comment on what that was about. I believe it was about four women friends who decided to play the field same as men do, although without watching it, can't really say for sure.
 
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I haven't seen it, but the article I read in a British paper described it as an Indian version of Sex in the City, I never watched Sex in the City either for what it is worth, so can't really comment on what that was about. I believe it was about four women friends who decided to play the field same as men do, although without watching it, can't really say for sure.
Sexual liberation then.
I have no qualms re people making movies on these kinda subjects and if any women want to indulge in such fantasies they should be freely allowed to do since we don't live in middle ages anymore .
Just don't call it empowerment is all I'm saying. This sort of thing makes a mockery of the efforts of the women who work tirelessly for other women's cause and who are real role models for the society. Sadly Hollywood and present day bollywood has completely twisted the meaning of women empowerment for their own agenda thus indirectly legitimizing this immoral behavior.
 
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It is a shame it wasn't released in Pakistan. I bet it would have done excellent business.
 
It is a shame it wasn't released in Pakistan. I bet it would have done excellent business.

No chance with current relations at a a low between India and Pakistan. Perhaps as they have more cordial partnership with India, the Afghan govt could arrange for the film to be released over there?
 
Pakistan is a Muslim country, the ban would happen in any Islamic country regardless of the continent. I think this has become more of an issue in India because it isn't a Muslim country so reasons for the protests there are less obvious.

What does Pakistan do about Hollywood movies?

I can see Cinepax is playing Hereditary which has some interesting scenes.
 
What does Pakistan do about Hollywood movies?

I can see Cinepax is playing Hereditary which has some interesting scenes.

No idea, probably cuts out some scenes which are considered unsuitable for family viewing. You can do that with films where the main premise is based on what would be considered more acceptable material. Even with tv programmes, you would think something like Suits might get a pass with a few cuts, but Sex and the City would get blocked.
 
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