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[VIDEO] Air India plane crash death toll rises to 270 [Update@ Post#243]

Bhaijaan said:
Westerners getting a free racism pass today. Too many sickening comments against India and Indians on social media.

I hope we never stoop to these levels when we have grown to a position of strength but these times will never be forgotten.
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Indians ain’t no saints big time trollers..

White brits saying thank god no British were injured or died.
 
Tragic News. Deepest Condolences to the families of the victims.

To be honest, I've never been comfortable during flights. When something major does go wrong, highly likely it ends up catastrophic.
 
So many gruesome pics & videos of burnt bodies on social media, some of the bodies r headless. :(
 
Train number 64419, traveling from Hazrat Nizamuddin to Ghaziabad, has derailed near Shivaji Bridge station.

There are no injuries or casualties in the incident.​

 
Just turned the TV onto hear this very sad news only to find some Indians are blaming pakistan.

RIP to all with a speedy recovery to the survivors.

Air India a good airline
 
Unbelievable tragedy.

RIP. Thoughts and prayers with victim's families.

The video suggests the flaps were not down.

However this is the 2nd aircraft model crashed for the first time by an Indian pilot. (Rafael and now the B787-8).
 
mazkhan said:
Im afraid with these smartphones and social media apps society has become morally bankrupt and mentally sick.
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People's are posting Dead people's video on X to increase the payout . Shamefull
 
Technics 1210 said:
Unbelievable tragedy.

RIP. Thoughts and prayers with victim's families.

The video suggests the flaps were not down.

However this is the 2nd aircraft model crashed for the first time by an Indian pilot. (Rafael and now the B787-8).
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Too soon!
 
Technics 1210 said:
It's what the broadsheets are reporting.

Doesn't look like hydraulics failure but more so pilot error.
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India unlike UK can and will like hide any pilot error, as for strange reason they feel it would be embarrassing for their country. Sadly we may never know the truth.

Wasnt there a recent report of an Indian airline where the pilot wouldn't allow the passenger's to depart and kept them locked up for hours?

I would never use Indian airlines and only would use PIA as a last last resort.
 
Tragic and scary. Condolences to any posters that might be affected by this
 
Scary how sudden death can come. My condolences to all the victims’ families, and Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Rajiuun for any Muslims who passed away in this, may they be at peace in the afterlife, Ameen.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Artificial Intelligence Visual Observations – Few Seconds Before the Crash<br><br>1. Landing Gear Still Extended<br>•The landing gear has not been retracted, indicating:<br>•The aircraft remained at low altitude after takeoff.<br>•The crew possibly encountered a problem before reaching gear… <a href="https://t.co/9xIBb4zm5k">pic.twitter.com/9xIBb4zm5k</a></p>&mdash; Dr. Manoj Nalanagula, Vizag (@ManojNalanagula) <a href="
https://twitter.com/x/status/1933154142564045036
">June 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Boyka said:
No thrust or lift, pilot error or complete technical failure.
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Few experts (us and India) are saying multiple failures since it took off instead of engine failure. Pilots are very experienced and everyone is ruling out pilots fault.
 
RIP to all the victims, and condolences to their families. It's a huge tragedy.

For all the posts around trolling, one just needs to look at the plane crash that happened in Karachi a few years ago. The amount of vile hate from Indians after that event will far surpass whatever you see here.
 
Don’t fall for conspiracy theories.

The Air India crash will likely to be the usual suspects of aviation disasters: engine failure, aerodynamic stall, system malfunction, overload, or human error.

People are drawn to conspiracy theories because they offer comfort in chaos. Our brains crave patterns and explanations, especially during frightening events. Conspiracies make us feel like we understand what others don’t, giving a false sense of control and even superiority.
 
What a horrible tragedy! RIP to all deceased. Hope the injured get well soon.

Was part of a group going to Ahmedabad tomorrow morning. Needless to say, the conference is shelved.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
Survivors are sheer lucky, 2nd life for them.
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I hope there is more than one. The odds of surviving this terrible crash must be more than winning the lottery! Not only a new life but any survivors will be paid huge amounts in compensation.

The saddest part of this tragedy is the family members will be handed over badly damaged bodies or no bodies and wont get to say their goodbyes.
 
Rajdeep said:
Even if its a conspiracy and foul play, it cant be Pakistan. It is beyond capability of Pakistan to do an operation like that. Only certain organizations in the world can pull this stuff.

However, lets not speculate anything...thats for another day. Today is the day of mourning.
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Bareek wardaat daal kay you are calling it a day of mourning. What you are essentially saying is that it cannot be Pakistan because they are not capable of executing such complicated operations. If they were capable, you probably would support the theory that Pakistan is behind it.
 
Vikram1989 said:
Few experts (us and India) are saying multiple failures since it took off instead of engine failure. Pilots are very experienced and everyone is ruling out pilots fault.
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Yes unlikely pilot error.

One person survived. He jumped from the emergency exit. God knows how he did it.
 
Rajdeep said:
Even if its a conspiracy and foul play, it cant be Pakistan. It is beyond capability of Pakistan to do an operation like that. Only certain organizations in the world can pull this stuff.

However, lets not speculate anything...thats for another day. Today is the day of mourning.
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China?
Turkey?
USA?
Frace?
Arabs? They want a cheaper electricity from India?
Rahul Gandhi?
Gandhi from the grave?
Aurangzeb from 200 years ago?
 
Rajdeep said:
Even if its a conspiracy and foul play, it cant be Pakistan. It is beyond capability of Pakistan to do an operation like that. Only certain organizations in the world can pull this stuff.

However, lets not speculate anything...thats for another day. Today is the day of mourning.
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To put your little mind at ease, it's not foul play. Its gross negligence on the part of the pilots, and the aviation infrastructure around it. If not a pilot error, a mechanical issue. Unfortunately it's all India written in this tragedy whichever way you'd be tempted to poke your nose.
 
IAJ said:
Bareek wardaat daal kay you are calling it a day of mourning. What you are essentially saying is that it cannot be Pakistan because they are not capable of executing such complicated operations. If they were capable, you probably would support the theory that Pakistan is behind it.
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HalBass9 said:
China?
Turkey?
USA?
Frace?
Arabs? They want a cheaper electricity from India?
Rahul Gandhi?
Gandhi from the grave?
Aurangzeb from 200 years ago?
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Brothers...I am in a state of mourning today and not engaging in any debates. Its the policy I am maintaining since morning when this news broke. We can discuss all these another day.
 
Energy said:
To put your little mind at ease, it's not foul play. Its gross negligence on the part of the pilots, and the aviation infrastructure around it. If not a pilot error, a mechanical issue. Unfortunately it's all India written in this tragedy whichever way you'd be tempted to poke your nose.
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The constant need to polish the image of the divine emperor of Hindutva is practically a full time job at this point, for some, it’s the only job they’ve ever taken seriously.
 
Rajdeep said:
Brothers...I am in a state of mourning today and not engaging in any debates. Its the policy I am maintaining since morning when this news broke. We can discuss all these another day.
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No! it is okay, thanks.
 
Terrible tragedy and condolences to the families of the loved ones who have been impacted.

The flaps on the plane and landing gear are in the wrong position but both of these errors wouldn't make the aircraft stall, something went seriously wrong here for it to stall and then lose altitude

On an Airbus, the computer would take over and prevent stalling, I don't know about Boeing.
 
Rajdeep said:
Even if its a conspiracy and foul play, it cant be Pakistan. It is beyond capability of Pakistan to do an operation like that. Only certain organizations in the world can pull this stuff.

However, lets not speculate anything...thats for another day. Today is the day of mourning.
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It’s ok if you want to mourn bro, but then don’t start posts off like your first paragraph because then you’re just asking for sensitive topics like this to devolve into using a thread about condolences and the dead as yet another point scoring thread instead.
 
IAJ said:
Bareek wardaat daal kay you are calling it a day of mourning. What you are essentially saying is that it cannot be Pakistan because they are not capable of executing such complicated operations. If they were capable, you probably would support the theory that Pakistan is behind it.
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If Pakistan was capable, India would need to find a new boogeyman. One that can hit that hard would need to be avoided at all costs.
 
The_KING said:
It's a phobia I can't get over, sadly.
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Everyone has fear of something so don't worry.

hks222 said:
RIP.

I've always been skeptical of safety with air travel.
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Wherever humans are involved, accidents will happen.

Heartbreaking for all the families who have been impacted by this tragedy.

Boyka said:
Yes unlikely pilot error.

One person survived. He jumped from the emergency exit. God knows how he did it.
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Pilot error for sure are the flaps (at the wrong angle) and landing not being retracted but I am not sure if the onboard computer would let the engine stall and lose altitude due to it.

On an Airbus, it wouldn't. This could be a Boeing issue or maybe a set of unique circumstances couple with the Pilot error causing the crash.

All in all, tragic and heartbreaking.
 
LordJames said:
Everyone has fear of something so don't worry.


Wherever humans are involved, accidents will happen.

Heartbreaking for all the families who have been impacted by this tragedy.



Pilot error for sure are the flaps (at the wrong angle) and landing not being retracted but I am not sure if the onboard computer would let the engine stall and lose altitude due to it.

On an Airbus, it wouldn't. This could be a Boeing issue or maybe a set of unique circumstances couple with the Pilot error causing the crash.

All in all, tragic and heartbreaking.
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But this is just pathetic.

Landing off and going down in seconds - taking out all onboard. Also in case of an accident, chances of survival are very marginal.

Atleast with vehicles, you are to some extent in control.
 
Vishwas Kumar was seated in 11A, while his brother Ajay Kumar was in 11J near the emergency exit. Ajay's body is still missing.


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hks222 said:
But this is just pathetic.

Landing off and going down in seconds - taking out all onboard. Also in case of an accident, chances of survival are very marginal.

Atleast with vehicles, you are to some extent in control.
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Human error is clearly visible in the videos but the stall and loss of altitude is not usually a direct result of the human error (which is seen in the video). There could be something else in addition to the human error or some unique set of circumstances.

The stall wouldn't happen on an Airbus because the onboard computer would kick in, particularly on takeoff and landing. I am not exactly that knowledgeable about Boeing but Airbus is a far easier to train on because it is a lot more automated.

When a fully loaded plane stalls from 190m, it will be pretty quick when it hits the ground.

Overall, accidents will always happen.
 
Sad event, condolences to all those that suffered in this...

Btw, do you guys remember how the Indians here used to praise Tata Group? Wonder if they would be singing the same praises
 
DeadlyVenom said:
All Air India flights should be banned until the reason behind this crash is found. So far there is a strong likelihood of negligence.
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Strong evidence of Pilot error!

Technical update:
  1. Flaps not extended to the correct angle.
  2. Landing gear not retracted
  3. Plane fully loaded with people and gear
  4. Outside Temperature (around 39 C/102.2 F)
The two issues in RED show the plane being in the wrong configuration.

People around the world have run simulations and Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner still takes off with a single Engine.

People have run simulations and Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner still takes off with a single Engine with the other engine on fire (and one of the pilots fighting fire) during takeoff.

People have run simulations and Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner still takes off with wrong load and fuel calculations although with some problems due to extreme heat at Ahmadabad.

The fact that the plane was taking off proves that it had thrust (at least a single working Engine) but the nose of the plane is not at the right position for takeoff and this "could be" due to insufficient speed at take off (called V1). The nose does get pulled up right before the crash could be Pilot or onboard computers.

Something serious has gone wrong with this tragedy and a "possibility" is the Pilots accidentally shutting down the working engine instead of the faulty engine if the plane had problems with one of the engines and this has happened in the past.

The way the plane lost altitude so rapidly is possibly because it had no engine thrust at all, it was only on 190m to begin with

So 3 issues:
  1. "Possibly" insufficient speed at V1
  2. Wrong plane configuration at/after takeoff
  3. Something in addition to 1 & 2 which causes the stall and loss in altitude.
Cricket Warrior said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1933147694911873524
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Wouldn't cause this issue.

RexRex said:
In which case, Air India can be sued by the relatives of victims ?

This is what happens in the West, not sure if Indian courts will allow for it.
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Lets investigate what happened and avoid it next time.
 
Where are the fans of Tata that go over the board with the praises for it?
 

Tata Group Announces Rs 1 Crore To Kin Of Each Air India Ahmedabad Plane Crash Victim​


The Tata Group said it will cover medical expenses of those injured and provide support to rebuilding the hostel of BJ Medical College in Ahmedabad​


The Tata Group on Thursday announced that it will give Rs 1 crore to the families of each victim killed in the Air India plane crash in Ahmedabad. More than 200 people on board the ill-fated flight going to London, were killed as it crashed into a residential area in Meghaninagar.

According to a social media post, Tata Sons chairman N Chandrasekaran said the Tata Group will provide Rs 1 crore to the each of the families who have lost their loved ones. All medical expenses of those injured in the accident will also be covered, it said.

www.news18.com

Tata Group Announces Rs 1 Crore To Kin Of Each Air India Ahmedabad Plane Crash Victim

The Tata Group said it will cover medical expenses of those injured and provide support to rebuilding the hostel of BJ Medical College in Ahmedabad
www.news18.com www.news18.com
 
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