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Have to admit - I am hooked!

The family dynamics, the backstabbing, the workings of the corporate world! Wow!

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Brilliant series.

Logan is a sort of satire on Rupert Murdoch - a pressman so powerful that even the POTUS has to negotiate with him.

It’s fascinating to see the three kids and the key business associates manoeuvre.

Logan is so horrible! The way he manipulates his kids, especially poor Kendall. I quite relate to Kendall.
 
Favourite moment was when Roman bought Logan Heart of Midlothian FC.

Logan: “I’m Hibs”.

Roman: “……….”
 
Just about to finish S1, really is immaculately written.
 
great show, great cast, roman and shiv are pbly my favs tho. its started to drag a bit recently, but am hoping they plan to end it rather than see how many episodes they can get out of it.
 
Yes a fan, waiting for the next season.

Though I think sometimes the storylines are OTT, but none the less an entertaining series.
 
Yes a fan, waiting for the next season.

Though I think sometimes the storylines are OTT, but none the less an entertaining series.

Agreed

Looks like this company is FOREVER in crisis! When do they actually do any work?
 
Ok finished season 3

All set for Season 4

Any predictions on what will happen? Looks like the end is nigh for Logan.
 
Ok finished season 3

All set for Season 4

Any predictions on what will happen? Looks like the end is nigh for Logan.

Eh? He has ended the season triumphant with the kids in disarray!
 
Eh? He has ended the season triumphant with the kids in disarray!

Whenever he goes up, something else happens - I feel next season will see his final downfall.
 
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A plot twist of Shakespearean dimensions in episode three of the final season of Jesse Armstrong's acclaimed HBO drama about cold-blooded power plays makes this the standout in an extraordinary series, writes Caryn James.

Warning: This article contains major spoilers for episode three of season four of Succession

How perfect that his death would happen on his private plane, that his children's last words to their alienated father would be spoken over the phone (and they weren't even sure he could hear them),* and that the family tragedy would be set against the backdrop of a comically over-the-top wedding. The privilege, the piercing dialogue, and the emotional trauma that have made the series one of television's most extraordinary were all on display in episode three of the final season of Succession. And as its central character dies, this show about power finally tells us that eventually, one way or another, everyone loses it, even King Lear, even Logan Roy.

From the start, Succession has been compared to Shakespeare's tragedy because of its family story of inheritance, love and betrayal. But the brilliant fusing of those themes with dazzling writing, depth of character and dramatic structure may be series creator Jesse Armstrong's most ambitious, Shakespearean nod of all. A will-he-or-won't-he-die question plays out with the pacing and suspense of a thriller in this episode, enhanced with an emotion that this show about cold-blooded power plays has touched on but never fully realised before.

In a clever bit of misdirection, the backdrop to the wrenching emotion is Connor's ridiculous, tacky wedding on a rented tour boat heading to the Statue of Liberty, in an attempt to get attention for his delusional, failing presidential campaign. The wedding is an example of the show's biting satire, which draws attention to the absurdity of excessive wealth. It also contrasts with and leads to one of the series' most impressive plot swerves. As Logan and his team are flying to Europe, Tom calls from the plane to tell Kendall, Shiv and Roman that their father has collapsed and is getting chest compressions. Even in a show that is famous for its unexpected plot twists involving intricate business manoeuvres, this abrupt turn reminds us that no matter how wealthy or powerful you are, life can get you fast.

The rest of the episode takes place almost in real time, ramping up the tension. Every passing second makes it less likely Logan will survive. One of the most effective choices is to keep him off screen from the minute we hear he is ill. Brilliantly, and to great emotional effect, the drama places us in his children's position. When Tom says he'll put the phone to Logan's ear, the dynamic is intense because no one knows if they are already speaking into a void. And in some of the series' best writing, the calls display the essence of each character, and how profound their love-hate feelings for Logan are.

Ken (Jeremy Strong), whom Logan once set up to take the fall for corporate crimes and in return denounced his father publicly, tells him, "I don't forgive you. I love you." On some level he probably believes that, but it is a vicious goodbye. Perhaps that makes him the child most like Logan.

Shiv (Sarah Snook) has wavered between desperately needing her father's love and selling him out because he has done the same to her. Now she reverts to being his little princess, saying to her unresponsive father, "Dad. Dad. Daddy."

Roman (Kieran Culkin), often reluctant to grow up, doesn't want to believe Logan is dying, telling his father that of course he'll pull through. The Lear analogy may be overused, but Roman is the shadow Cordelia figure, the youngest and most loving. Again and again he has tried to sell out his father, but in the end never can.

And, as always, Connor (Alan Ruck), who poignantly revealed in episode two that he has learned to live without love, is an afterthought, called in by his siblings when it is too late to even try to talk to their father.

It is not shocking that Logan dies, of course. Armstrong's original plan was to kill him off in the first season. His relatively early exit now gives the series room to breathe as it plays out the actual succession, in a sense bringing the show back to what it was always intended to be.

But Logan's absence highlights how diminished the series would have been without him. Every string his children pulled, every undermining manoeuvre they tried, led back to him, setting him up to roar at them, "I won!" Brian Cox has made Logan one of television's most indelible characters. His last encounter with any of his children is a call ordering Roman to fire Gerri (J Smith-Cameron), a cruel and masterful stroke. At once, he cuts her out as a threat, tests Roman's loyalty, and breaks Roman and Gerri's sexually fraught flirtation. To the end, Logan stays true to his monstrous self. And he refuses to give up power. Lear-like, he leaves no clarity about a successor, just a mess

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what a show, episode 1 with
shiv and tom just looking broken and defeated
and then episode 3, they have made up for the lacklustre third season in three episodes this season. one of the few series im actually invested in the story, altho a part of me is thinking how do they top this start, surely the only way is down now.

also makes a great case for the old school watch and wait series as opposed to the binge watching Netflix model, series like this stay with u far longer IMO.

succession isnt in my all time top 5, but if they can finish the season at this kinda level, it might just make it there.
 
Watching the new season....

Totally spellbound
 
Watching the new season....

Totally spellbound

has been a long time since ive been hooked to a show, the one episode a week works a lot better for me, gives u time to digest, and taking an hour out of the week ain't hard. also sarah snook is amazing as shiv, shes stolen the season so far.
 
Watched last episode 7 series 4.

The show has its moments, but boy is Roman infuriating! Do not like him at all, including Tom, and the sob story between Tom and Shiv has dragged on for long enough.

For me there is not a single episode that I would rewatch.
 
Watched last episode 7 series 4.

The show has its moments, but boy is Roman infuriating! Do not like him at all, including Tom, and the sob story between Tom and Shiv has dragged on for long enough.

For me there is not a single episode that I would rewatch.

Agree the Tom & Shiv bits are dragging
 
Guys remember - some of us are still behind on the episodes :)
 
Spoiler free post!

I watched the grand finale of Succession last night (Season 4 episode 10).

Below expectations for me. Roman is easily the most annoying character of the lot. The story seemed rushed in season 4, and I think a 5th season may have been the right length, but personally what started off as a promising show ended up being average.

The final episode is 90 min long, it had some moments, and great acting, but this is as far as I go.

Succession doesn’t even come close to the top 10 TV shows of all time.

Sure miss Billions show!
 
Just started this.
Just finished episode 2 of season 1 so have a long way to go 😁

Had to scroll through the thread to avoid any spoilers
 
Loved the show. Loved the finale. Very unlikeable people but I've actually such people in real life lol..Great finale.
 
BBC article on the finale

Critics have widely praised the end of the Emmy-winning TV drama Succession, with their descriptions ranging from "perfect" and "beautiful" to "terrible" and "brutal".

The show, which focuses on the power struggle between the children of media mogul Logan Roy, has finally concluded after four seasons.

Critics seemed more than satisfied with how it ended, with some comparing it with the writing of William Shakespeare.

The Guardian's Lucy Mangan referenced Shakespeare's King Lear and Macbeth, adding: "It was Succession at its finest. And that, slime puppies, is saying something."

The Times's Carol Midgley asked: "Why was this finale so brilliant?", adding: "Because it had everything: comedy, tragedy, twists, top rate dialogue - even, surprisingly, a touch of sentimentality."

The Daily Telegraph's Ed Power said "perfect finales are difficult to pull off, and [writer Jesse] Armstrong came close", but added it "wasn't quite as Shakespearean as we may have hoped for".

CNN's Brian Lowry used an aquatic metaphor to describe the show, saying the Roy children "took a pleasant swim together in the Succession finale, which turned out to be a perfect prelude to the show's parting demonstration of the perils of swimming with sharks".

Writing about the show's potential legacy, the Daily Mail's Adam S Levy made the point: "Succession always has been about the membership of its audience, not its size, and its popularity among the coastal media and agenda-setting groups that the show depicts and attracts means the finale will likely leave a cultural mark."

It was a "brilliant family nightmare", according to Daniel Fienberg in The Hollywood Reporter, who called it "a sublime end to a sublime television show", while Emily Baker in iNews added: "Indefinite, astute and staunchly uncompromising to the very end. Succession is the best television series ever made."

Philippa Snow, writing in The Independent, called the last episode "poetic and violent", and writes about the "destabilising moment that sends the finale crashing into chaos and distress".

Sarah Snook, Alan Ruck, Brian Cox, Jeremy Strong and Kieran Culkin attended the show's New York premiere in March
Variety's Alison Herman said the show was "a boomerang that always hit its mark", saying the feature-length conclusion to the Roy family saga "has many... full-circle moments".

Several critics talked about how much they enjoyed watching the show, despite its hard-hitting content.

Writing in Deadline, Dominic Patten said the "satire's brutal and beautiful end proves pure palace intrigue".

"It was delicious to watch," he said, adding: "This very satisfying ender was penned by Armstrong in a testament to the true power of the word and the ones who bring it to page."

The Telegraph India's Priyam Marik said it "came to a fitting end with a perfectly painful finale" with a "compelling and cathartic conclusion to a story that will be difficult to match".

Linda Holmes wrote in NPR: "It's exactly the right finale for this show, I think. What can I say? It's one of my favourite shows ever. Brilliantly acted, written, directed ... and a lot of fun to talk about."

"Part of the magic and mystery of Succession is how a show devoted to such reprehensible people could be so enjoyable," wrote Joshua Chaffin in The Financial Times.

"It was as if the show's creator, Jesse Armstrong, held a mirror up to our decayed society and told us, reassuringly, 'I see you,'."
 
I thought that the finale was absolutely brilliant. Amazing end to a truly incredible show that I will miss very much.
 
I thought that the finale was absolutely brilliant. Amazing end to a truly incredible show that I will miss very much.

I cannot believe there won't be a spinoff for this show.

There is so much to know and see after this point!
 
I cannot believe there won't be a spinoff for this show.

There is so much to know and see after this point!

I dunno I think it's better if they close the book here. And let us wonder how things turn out in the aftermath.

I thought that the three main siblings in particular had all reached the conclusion of their stories. And it was a pretty Shakespearean conclusion. Quite tragic but also quite apt when you consider the way they had behaved and chased power for four seasons.
 
Yep i watch this!

Just started watching season 4. Love the comedy element
 
Succession: Brian Cox interview

Contains spoiler

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Rupert Murdoch's succession drama reaches its finale.

Four months after the finale of acclaimed TV series Succession, it seems the show's real-life inspirations have reached the conclusion of their own succession drama.

When Succession writer Jesse Armstrong appeared at the Edinburgh TV Festival last month, he confirmed what most people already knew - the Murdoch dynasty was the original inspiration for his story of brutal power struggles and backstabbing within the family of a media mogul.

Armstrong said he changed his characters significantly and also drew on other major families like those headed by Sumner Redstone and Robert Maxwell.

But the fundamental similarities between the Succession characters and the Murdochs remain too tasty to dismiss.

A formidable, decisive and ageing patriarch. Three adult children vying for position in the family business. A media empire struggling to adapt and survive in the digital age.

From the 1960s, Rupert Murdoch built up News Corporation into a globe-spanning behemoth with mighty political and public influence. It included papers like the Sun and the Times in the UK, the Wall Street Journal and Fox News in the US, and Hollywood film studio 20th Century Fox.

For her part, Elisabeth said in 2012 she had said "absolutely no ambition" to succeed her father. She had been was managing director of Sky Networks, part owned by News Corp, but left to set up her own successful TV production company, Shine, in 2000. That was bought by News Corp in 2011.

James was for many years the heir apparent. He held a number of senior positions in his father's empire including head of the London-based newspaper arm and chairman of satellite broadcaster BSkyB.

But after the phone hacking scandal engulfed the company in 2011, leading Rupert to close the News of the World newspaper, James resigned from News International and BSkyB.

He took over from his father as chief executive of the renamed 21st Century Fox in 2015. But that studio was bought by Disney in 2019, and the following year James resigned from the board of News Corp over editorial "differences".

In particular, he made no secret of his displeasure with the right-wing direction of Fox News and of coverage of climate change by his father's outlets.

That cleared the path for Lachlan, who had been the first of the trio to join the board of the family firm when he became executive director in 1996, having earlier worked at Murdoch papers and TV stations in Australia.

But he abruptly left in 2005 and moved back to Australia. He returned to the family fold a decade later, however, and became executive chairman of 21st Century Fox and chairman of News Corp, alongside his father.

"It's been pretty clear for about a decade now that Lachlan was the chosen son," Vanity Fair special correspondent Brian Stelter told BBC News after Thursday's announcement.

"James Murdoch is disgusted by what airs on Fox News in the US. He has moved away from the companies. So Lachlan has been in line for a while, but he's always been sharing power with his father."


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Golden Globes update

Succession was the big winner in the TV categories - following the fourth and final season of the series about a media mogul and his children who battle for control of his company.

Kieran Culkin, who played Roman Roy in the series, was named best leading TV actor - an award previously won by his co-stars Brian Cox and Jeremy Strong.

"I was nominated for a Golden Globe like 20 years ago," he recalled, "and when that moment passed, I thought, 'I'll never be in this room again'.

"I accepted I was never going to be on this stage. But thanks to Succession.... this is a nice moment."

His co-star Sarah Snook was named best leading TV actress, and told the audience: "This show has changed my life."

British star Matthew Macfadyen was also named best supporting actor for his role in the show. "I just adored every second of playing the human grease stain that is Tom Wambsgans," he joked.

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