[Video] Baahubali, upcoming Indian Movie

[SandyB]

Shameless and naked display of telugu nationalism, and other dravidians jumping on the bandwagon to boast about something after their self inflicted inferiority complex due to superior bollywood.

If your idea is bigger paychecks and whiter people , then yeah !

Whats wrong with asserting your cultural identity ? The Dravidians have cultures far older and historically were mostly independent of foreign influence/invasions.

Are we denying the success of other parts of India ? We never cease to applaud the success of any Indian, irrespective of where they're from. But that doesn't mean we have to subvert our identity and language at the feet of people who drink gau-mutr..

Weren't you the same guy who kept bragging about Bengali cinema's superiority in the previous posts ? How is that different from Telugu people bragging about Bahubali ?

Baahubali is not just a Telugu film, it involved a lot of creative talent primarily from the 5 southern states. It even had many technicians from the NE. Where do you see this level of diversity in Bollywood productions ?

Of course they'll claim you as "Indian" the moment you make it Big (Satyajit ray, AR Rahman ) , just like how Bahubali became an "Indian" film , whereas Lagaan, Dangal 3 Idiots still remain Bollywood films .

 

[TM Riddle]

Its a fantasy movie like Lord of the Rings.

I know you south indians are excited and all but putting this movie in the same sentence as LOTR is akin to blasphemy.LOTR is a forever classic while this picture is just the same old BS of hero losing his parents,finds out and take vengeance on the evil uncle.Lion king anyone

 

[SandyB]

I know you south indians are excited and all but putting this movie in the same sentence as LOTR is akin to blasphemy.LOTR is a forever classic while this picture is just the same old BS of hero losing his parents,finds out and take vengeance on the evil uncle.Lion king anyone

"Like" doesn't mean "AS GOOD AS" does it ?

It's just used as an example of that Genre.

Like we use "The Godfather" as the example of any crime-family saga, or Star-Wars for any space ,movie.

Honestly, if people do believe, it's even near that film, they're too far stuck up with regional pride.

 

[CricketCartoons]

If your idea is bigger paychecks and whiter people , then yeah !

Whats wrong with asserting your cultural identity ? The Dravidians have cultures far older and historically were mostly independent of foreign influence/invasions.

Are we denying the success of other parts of India ? We never cease to applaud the success of any Indian, irrespective of where they're from. But that doesn't mean we have to subvert our identity and language at the feet of people who drink gau-mutr..

Weren't you the same guy who kept bragging about Bengali cinema's superiority in the previous posts ? How is that different from Telugu people bragging about Bahubali ?

Baahubali is not just a Telugu film, it involved a lot of creative talent primarily from the 5 southern states. It even had many technicians from the NE. Where do you see this level of diversity in Bollywood productions ?

Of course they'll claim you as "Indian" the moment you make it Big (Satyajit ray, AR Rahman ) , just like how Bahubali became an "Indian" film , whereas Lagaan, Dangal 3 Idiots still remain Bollywood films .

I don't want to go into so called dravidian culture, as this is not the thread for it. Also leave the topic of Bengali cinema as coming from someone who likes baahubali, they just won't know what quality cinema is.

Why even bother replying to you when you run away when asked questions? Still waiting for you to explain british imperialists on casteism and providing stats for critical acclaims per film.

 

[SandyB]

I don't want to go into so called dravidian culture, as this is not the thread for it. Also leave the topic of Bengali cinema as coming from someone who likes baahubali, they just won't know what quality cinema is.

Why even bother replying to you when you run away when asked questions? Still waiting for you to explain british imperialists on casteism and providing stats for critical acclaims per film.

I already conceded that you win in the "Best film" wins count. The critical acclaim per films made argument was used when you clubbed together all 4 South Film industries to show that we had fewer awards. We aren't ONE entity . I said the same could be said about clubbing all the northern film industries together, as apart from Bengali cinema , the others don't bring much acclaim.

Regarding the casteism posts, i've not posted in that thread since,I'm digging up data to support my argument.

 

[JaDed]

Atleast one good thing happened in last week is [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] discovering his loyalty towards bollywood,inspite of being forever against it. Congrats [MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] u have done the impossible [MENTION=77677]IgnitedMind[/MENTION] will be proud.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Atleast one good thing happened in last week is [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] discovering his loyalty towards bollywood,inspite of being forever against it. Congrats [MENTION=140459]SandyB[/MENTION] u have done the impossible [MENTION=77677]IgnitedMind[/MENTION] will be proud.

because madrasi cinema is worse than bollywood... first let you guys reach bollywood level. learn to walk before you can run.

 

[JaDed]

because madrasi cinema is worse than bollywood... first let you guys reach bollywood level. learn to walk before you can run.

The biggest issue of yours with bollywood was with caste but south India cinema has easily scored better on that but ofcourse you wouldn't acknowledge that because of your hypocrisy and lets not forget how easily u let go of your buddy [MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] when he openly indulges in casteist posts.

 

[TM Riddle]

The biggest issue of yours with bollywood was with caste but south India cinema has easily scored better on that but ofcourse you wouldn't acknowledge that because of your hypocrisy and lets not forget how easily u let go of your buddy [MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] when he openly indulges in casteist posts.

Show me a single post in which I have tried to claim myself as superior to others or mocked those from lower castes.Yes I'm proud of my background and there's nothing to be ashamed of in that.Much better than sucking up to madrasis at every opportunity like you do.

 

[CricketCartoons]

The biggest issue of yours with bollywood was with caste but south India cinema has easily scored better on that but ofcourse you wouldn't acknowledge that because of your hypocrisy and lets not forget how easily u let go of your buddy [MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] when he openly indulges in casteist posts.

The biggest casteism in in south india. Caste apartheid is still practiced there. Even now temples are out of bounds for dalits in madras state. So please dont bring this up. No where I am exonerating bollywood, so dont try this farrago of distortions.. btw Nowadays I am researching on some mohajir castes in bollywood...especially the harnal caste.

 

[JaDed]

Show me a single post in which I have tried to claim myself as superior to others or mocked those from lower castes.Yes I'm proud of my background and there's nothing to be ashamed of in that.Much better than sucking up to madrasis at every opportunity like you do.

I don't suck up to Tamilians/South Indians ,I'm just not ignorant and mocking them at every point as u do and because most of them don't reply to you doesn't mean I wouldn't as well.

You supporting Rajput goons attack on someone just filming is enough proof that there can be no fiction on Rajput thereby putting your community at a pedestal higher than others.

 

[JaDed]

The biggest casteism in in south india. Caste apartheid is still practiced there. Even now temples are out of bounds for dalits in madras state. So please dont bring this up. No where I am exonerating bollywood, so dont try this farrago of distortions.. btw Nowadays I am researching on some mohajir castes in bollywood...especially the harnal caste.

There is casteist issue ,I have myself spoken about it but unlike you I don't assume its not there in other states,In many states still so called uppercastes create ruckus.

Your issue was with the film industry I replied on that.

 

[TM Riddle]

I don't suck up to Tamilians/South Indians ,I'm just not ignorant and mocking them at every point as u do and because most of them don't reply to you doesn't mean I wouldn't as well.

You supporting Rajput goons attack on someone just filming is enough proof that there can be no fiction on Rajput thereby putting your community at a pedestal higher than others.

You obviously have comprehension issues.No ,I supporting the karni sena have absolutely no relation with me trying to claim myself being some superior guy and neither do I consider myself one.You otoh clearly have some inferiority complex and self hatred.

 

[CricketCartoons]

There is casteist issue ,I have myself spoken about it but unlike you I don't assume its not there in other states,In many states still so called uppercastes create ruckus.

Your issue was with the film industry I replied on that.

LOL. Can't help you with your delusions and assumptions. btw do you know anything about the harnal caste, their history and culture?

 

[JaDed]

LOL. Can't help you with your delusions and assumptions. btw do you know anything about the harnal caste, their history and culture?

Yes I do,and I also know its not a caste but a village,glad to know you had to go personal on it as usual when you don't have an answer.

 

[JaDed]

You obviously have comprehension issues.No ,I supporting the karni sena have absolutely no relation with me trying to claim myself being some superior guy and neither do I consider myself one.You otoh clearly have some inferiority complex and self hatred.

Not really I just don't glorify my caste or any caste for that matter,I'm comfortable in my skin and have nothing to prove unlike in your case where you had to mention the same.

 

[SandyB]

Understandable..when mallu cinema is famous for masala shakila movies, karanataka for b grade movies worse than bhojpuri, telugu for fat uncles posing as hulk, and tamil for bald octogenarians posing as young hirsute charmers, here comes a movie which brings them the limelight and acceptance they so much crave... you are bound to see the pent up deep seated inferiority getting a release. Hopefully in a decade they will start making proper cinema, so they need all the encouragement they can get.

Really ? For all your claims of being a "serious cinema" connoisseur, your ignorance of the second most acclaimed and decorated regional cinema of India (after Bengali) proves that you're nothing more than a troll ! The soft-porn cinema era was an aberration from 1999-2006. You talk as if Northern cinema doesn't have a B-Grade/Soft Porn industry

because madrasi cinema is worse than bollywood... first let you guys reach bollywood level. learn to walk before you can run.

Yeah. Poor us, We've been crawling all along ..

Southern movies account for over 75% of film revenues

MUMBAI: One tumbler whiskey, one masala dosa and a bagful of box-office hits — that's South Indian cinema industry, which dominates the Indian filmdom, dwarfing Bollywood. Can't believe it?

Take this: Films made in the four southern languages—Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam— accounted for more than three-fourths of the country's total revenues from film content in 2008-09, generating more than Rs 1,700 crore.

Out of the Rs 1,700-crore revenues in FY09, Rs 1,300 came from domestic theatrical collections. The region accounts for more than half the total operational screens in India.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/media/entertainment/southern-movies-account-for-over-75-of-film-revenues/articleshow/5241117.cms?intenttarget=no

 

[CricketCartoons]

Really ? For all your claims of being a "serious cinema" connoisseur, your ignorance of the second most acclaimed and decorated regional cinema of India (after Bengali) proves that you're nothing more than a troll ! The soft-porn cinema era was an aberration from 1999-2006. You talk as if Northern cinema doesn't have a B-Grade/Soft Porn industry




Yeah. Poor us, We've been crawling all along ..


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/media/entertainment/southern-movies-account-for-over-75-of-film-revenues/articleshow/5241117.cms?intenttarget=no

LOL. You seriously lack comprehension. What mallu cinema is famous for has to do with public perception, not what I know about it. Please read carefully unless you want to look like an idiot.

And another LOL at the desperation by digging a 8 yr old article which proves nothing about the quality of cinema, which i what I have been talking about.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You obviously have comprehension issues.No ,I supporting the karni sena have absolutely no relation with me trying to claim myself being some superior guy and neither do I consider myself one.You otoh clearly have some inferiority complex and self hatred.

Inferiority complex? Lol he called you out on your casteist and borderline racist views and he has an inferiority complex?

 

[TM Riddle]

Inferiority complex? Lol he called you out on your casteist and borderline racist views and he has an inferiority complex?

He's a punjabi with a deep inferiority complex hence his sucking up to Tamilians.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

He's a punjabi with a deep inferiority complex hence his sucking up to Tamilians.

Rubbish. He has lived in Chennai for a significant portion of his life and it's natural to have affinity for the place where you live. Does not mean he's sucking up to Tamilians.

 

[TM Riddle]

Rubbish. He has lived in Chennai for a significant portion of his life and it's natural to have affinity for the place where you live. Does not mean he's sucking up to Tamilians.

And I'm sure he has known me so well over the years that he knows I'm inherently a casteist and racist person.You see the flaw in your argument?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

And I'm sure he has known me so well over the years that he knows I'm inherently a casteist and racist person.You see the flaw in your argument?

What flaw? Your posts and threads you created over the years have shown that you are overtly proud of your Rajput heritage and your dislike for South Indians or atleast the fact that you are very condescending towards south Indians. "You south Indians this " and "you south Indians thst" . Lose that condescending tone and no one will call you out for anything.

 

[TM Riddle]

What flaw? Your posts and threads you created over the years have shown that you are overtly proud of your Rajput heritage and your dislike for South Indians or atleast the fact that you are very condescending towards south Indians. "You south Indians this " and "you south Indians thst" . Lose that condescending tone and no one will call you out for anything.

Yes I am proud of my Rajput identity and I see no reason why one should not?People take pride in their religion, nationality, language, why can't I?How does that make me a casteist?A casteist would show disdain and make disparaging remarks against people from other/lower castes.I challenge you to find me a single post where I have done that.

 

[JaDed]

He's a punjabi with a deep inferiority complex hence his sucking up to Tamilians.

And I'm sure he has known me so well over the years that he knows I'm inherently a casteist and racist person.You see the flaw in your argument?

I don't suck up to tamilians, I would reply similar way to captain or cc when they talk about Punjabis from Delhi.

And I called u casteist not only because of your thread on caste but also because of ur support to goons getting violent over fiction.

Second is also your terrible online attitude towards South Indians ,which most South Indians ignore but I grew in Chennai and Bangalore so I won't.

 

[TM Riddle]

If sticking to and supporting your community makes you a casteist then yes I'm one.
People support and try to justify terrible acts of their armies in the name of nationalism all the time but I don't see anyone of you pseudo intellectuals crying over that .
How is nationalism any better than that? Or affinity for people with same religion? Hypocrites.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I don't suck up to tamilians, I would reply similar way to captain or cc when they talk about Punjabis from Delhi.

And I called u casteist not only because of your thread on caste but also because of ur support to goons getting violent over fiction.

Second is also your terrible online attitude towards South Indians ,which most South Indians ignore but I grew in Chennai and Bangalore so I won't.

Please fool others. We know very well why you have a soft corner for Tamils.
Also please explain how is it casteist to support karni sena's protest on distortion of history. Would supporting protest for distorting BabaSaheb Bhim Rao Ambedkar be casteist? Why?

 

[JaDed]

He's a punjabi with a deep inferiority complex hence his sucking up to Tamilians.

Please fool others. We know very well why you have a soft corner for Tamils.
Also please explain how is it casteist to support karni sena's protest on distortion of history. Would supporting protest for distorting BabaSaheb Bhim Rao Ambedkar be casteist? Why?

By being violent? So let's get this right ,first good to see u have come out in support now ,so Rajputs have no cases of violence against other castes?Jus Google it.

And you don't have to tell me why I reply to your terrible remarks against South Indians/Tamilians ,you do that against many regions except the ones where u have a bias for which is becoming obvious everyday.

 

[CricketCartoons]

By being violent? So let's get this right ,first good to see u have come out in support now ,so Rajputs have no cases of violence against other castes?Jus Google it.

And you don't have to tell me why I reply to your terrible remarks against South Indians/Tamilians ,you do that against many regions except the ones where u have a bias for which is becoming obvious everyday.

You are shifting the argument. Whether bhansali being slapped was fine or not, that is not the debate. Question is how is the support for distorting history, casteist. Please explain.

 

[JaDed]

You are shifting the argument. Whether bhansali being slapped was fine or not, that is not the debate. Question is how is the support for distorting history, casteist. Please explain.

It's fiction for one,second supporting violence in the next of caste,because then u r putting urself at a higher pedestal.

And when did supporters of Ambedkar become violent.Also you of all posters shouldn't accuse of change of topic when u clearly went personal and disclosed personal information about me sometime ago.

 

[CricketCartoons]

It's fiction for one,second supporting violence in the next of caste,because then u r putting urself at a higher pedestal.

And when did supporters of Ambedkar become violent.Also you of all posters shouldn't accuse of change of topic when u clearly went personal and disclosed personal information about me sometime ago.

Supporting violence in the same of caste? But where is the caste angle? Rani Padmawati is revered by many castes, if people protest distortion how the hell is it casteist?

Are you pretending to be ignorant? I gave a hypothetical example..If I protest against the distortion of Babasaheb, will I be casteist? Because according to you i will be putting a caste on a higher pedestal? Where do you get such logic from?

I didnt disclose anything that is not already in public domain here.

 

[TM Riddle]

By being violent? So let's get this right ,first good to see u have come out in support now ,so Rajputs have no cases of violence against other castes?Jus Google it.

And you don't have to tell me why I reply to your terrible remarks against South Indians/Tamilians ,you do that against many regions except the ones where u have a bias for which is becoming obvious everyday.

Do you see me condoning those incidents?Bhansali otoh has no right to twist and distort our history.A notice was already sent to him asking to remove the objectionable content which had no historical basis.Yet that narcissist *** chose to go ahead and when the karni sena activists staged a protest at the shooting ground he ordered his assistant to fire a shot in the air to scare them.The things got escalated.You don't scare us by bullets or swords.

 

[JaDed]

Supporting violence in the same of caste? But where is the caste angle? Rani Padmawati is revered by many castes, if people protest distortion how the hell is it casteist?

Are you pretending to be ignorant? I gave a hypothetical example..If I protest against the distortion of Babasaheb, will I be casteist? Because according to you i will be putting a caste on a higher pedestal? Where do you get such logic from?

I didnt disclose anything that is not already in public domain here.

Do you see me condoning those incidents?Bhansali otoh has no right to twist and distort our history.A notice was already sent to him asking to remove the objectionable content which had no historical basis.Yet that narcissist *** chose to go ahead and when the karni sena activists staged a protest at the shooting ground he ordered his assistant to fire a shot in the air to scare them.The things got escalated.You don't scare us by bullets or swords.

You don't scare whom by bullets? Caste based groups out to suppress freedom of speech.

And CC it wasn't everyone that indulged in violence it was specific Caste based group that did ,so stop labelling others when ur buddy above has by ur standards done enough to promote caste.

Either never question any Bollywood movies' caste angle or question everyone.

 

[CricketCartoons]

You don't scare whom by bullets? Caste based groups out to suppress freedom of speech.

And CC it wasn't everyone that indulged in violence it was specific Caste based group that did ,so stop labelling others when ur buddy above has by ur standards done enough to promote caste.

Either never question any Bollywood movies' caste angle or question everyone.

Still avoiding the simple question, I see. That may be against freedom of speech, but how is it casteist? If a black group protests against the misrepresentation of MLK jr, will you call it racist? Why am I even asking, when I know you will avoid answering directly.

I also see, you want to use it as a bargaining chip to make me stay silent on the casteism in Bollywood. Why am I not surprised.

 

[TM Riddle]

You don't scare whom by bullets? Caste based groups out to suppress freedom of speech.

And CC it wasn't everyone that indulged in violence it was specific Caste based group that did ,so stop labelling others when ur buddy above has by ur standards done enough to promote caste.

Either never question any Bollywood movies' caste angle or question everyone.

Many different Hindu groups in Rajasthan which include pretty much all the castes hailed the action and called for a joint action in case the shooting continues.

 

[JaDed]

Supporting violence in the same of caste? But where is the caste angle? Rani Padmawati is revered by many castes, if people protest distortion how the hell is it casteist?

Are you pretending to be ignorant? I gave a hypothetical example..If I protest against the distortion of Babasaheb, will I be casteist? Because according to you i will be putting a caste on a higher pedestal? Where do you get such logic from?

I didnt disclose anything that is not already in public domain here.

Still avoiding the simple question, I see. That may be against freedom of speech, but how is it casteist? If a black group protests against the misrepresentation of MLK jr, will you call it racist? Why am I even asking, when I know you will avoid answering directly.

I also see, you want to use it as a bargaining chip to make me stay silent on the casteism in Bollywood. Why am I not surprised.

Of course that's how u see it because u still want to indulge in selective caste rant depending upon your bias friendship.

And here is the thing when Rani Sena indulged in violence it was in the name of caste,if it wasn't then u can correct me and unlike u I won't mock u and turn the direction.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Many different Hindu groups in Rajasthan which include pretty much all the castes hailed the action and called for a joint action in case the shooting continues.

It is the usual habit of pseudo intellectuals and wannabes who throw labels but when confronted run away. He has played casteism, racism and freedom of speech card, now it will be hindutva card. The posts will keep changing.

 

[TM Riddle]

It's Karni Sena not Rani Sena bhaisab

 

[JaDed]

Supporting violence in the same of caste? But where is the caste angle? Rani Padmawati is revered by many castes, if people protest distortion how the hell is it casteist?

Are you pretending to be ignorant? I gave a hypothetical example..If I protest against the distortion of Babasaheb, will I be casteist? Because according to you i will be putting a caste on a higher pedestal? Where do you get such logic from?

I didnt disclose anything that is not already in public domain here.

It's Karni Sena not Rani Sena bhaisab

Autocorrect

 

[CricketCartoons]

Of course that's how u see it because u still want to indulge in selective caste rant depending upon your bias friendship.

And here is the thing when Rani Sena indulged in violence it was in the name of caste,if it wasn't then u can correct me and unlike u I won't mock u and turn the direction.

As expected, you still havent answered the question. Will it be racist if blacks protest a misrepresentation of MLK?

Stop humiliating yourself further and just go.

 

[JaDed]

It is the usual habit of pseudo intellectuals and wannabes who throw labels but when confronted run away. He has played casteism, racism and freedom of speech card, now it will be hindutva card. The posts will keep changing.

Good so now if other castes agree with the violent action of one caste,it's all good.God cc I'm glad to see this side of urs.

 

[JaDed]

As expected, you still havent answered the question. Will it be racist if blacks protest a misrepresentation of MLK?

Stop humiliating yourself further and just go.

You keep telling me about deviation,when u have given multiple instance of the same.

So here it is,first good to know u support violence now as u seem to call it only 'protest' congrats.

And if they did indulge in violence in name of race yes it would be racisim of course now u wud come up with ur natural remarks.

 

[big_gamer007]

You obviously have comprehension issues.No ,I supporting the karni sena have absolutely no relation with me trying to claim myself being some superior guy and neither do I consider myself one.You otoh clearly have some inferiority complex and self hatred.

Lol you supported those Karni guys? They are cowards and anyone supporting them is a coward..

 

[CricketCartoons]

You keep telling me about deviation,when u have given multiple instance of the same.

So here it is,first good to know u support violence now as u seem to call it only 'protest' congrats.

And if they did indulge in violence in name of race yes it would be racisim of course now u wud come up with ur natural remarks.

LOL. Keep trying all the labels, that may work with others.

So according to you, it is the element of violence which makes it racist, if it was a peaceful protest, it wouldn't be racist? Let me school you sir, racism can manifest itself in many ways, violence is just one of them.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Lol you supported those Karni guys? They are cowards and anyone supporting them is a coward..

Anyone supporting Bhansali is a coward.

 

[JaDed]

LOL. Keep trying all the labels, that may work with others.

So according to you, it is the element of violence which makes it racist, if it was a peaceful protest, it wouldn't be racist? Let me school you sir, racism can manifest itself in many ways, violence is just one of them.

Labelling is usually ur game,enjoy it and 'school' as u wish with ur selective rant on casteism/racisim.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Labelling is usually ur game,enjoy it and 'school' as u wish with ur selective rant on casteism/racisim.

Correct me if I misinterpreted you. You think the element of violence makes something racist or not racist? right? That was the whole basis of you accusing TM bro of casteism?

 

[JaDed]

Correct me if I misinterpreted you. You think the element of violence makes something racist or not racist? right? That was the whole basis of you accusing TM bro of casteism?

Anyone glorifying the caste and supporting caste based violence.(mentioned it there)

If you have issues with it then don't care,done with it but I get now how selective u have been on casteism by Thakurs, nevertheless carry on.

 

[big_gamer007]

Anyone supporting Bhansali is a coward.

It's not about supporting Bhansali it's about supporting losers and cowards who don't have balls to follow the laws of the country or don't have the balls to fight anyone one on one that they do mob violence.. I would like to see anyone of these cowards try and pick a one on one fight with anyone their size and age.. Or try win something in combat sports..

 

[CricketCartoons]

Anyone glorifying the caste and supporting caste based violence.(mentioned it there)

If you have issues with it then don't care,done with it but I get now how selective u have been on casteism by Thakurs, nevertheless carry on.

But where is the evidence that it was caste based violence? Which caste was put down by those protests, which caste was discriminated due to the protests?

I know you have been hurt because i have exposed what goes in Bollywood..and this is your lame attempt to get back, but you have again ended up with egg on your face by shooting from the hips. Go and learn the meaning of casteism before you even use that word. Otherwise stupidity is free.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Yes I am proud of my Rajput identity and I see no reason why one should not?People take pride in their religion, nationality, language, why can't I?How does that make me a casteist?A casteist would show disdain and make disparaging remarks against people from other/lower castes.I challenge you to find me a single post where I have done that.

You don't have to make openly disparaging remarks to show what you really think. You may not remember this but when I posted a pic of mine on PP you were surprised that I was relatively of a lighter skin tone than most south Indians were. And you immediately asked me whether I was a Brahmin or not ? If that is not latent racism/casteism then i don't know what is? I'm not sure why you are getting so riled up. Most Indians are just like that including that pseudo-intellectual troll who is pretending to be your biggest cheerleader .

 

[CricketCartoons]

It's not about supporting Bhansali it's about supporting losers and cowards who don't have balls to follow the laws of the country or don't have the balls to fight anyone one on one that they do mob violence.. I would like to see anyone of these cowards try and pick a one on one fight with anyone their size and age.. Or try win something in combat sports..

They were actually brave people, who took on a powerful rich and influential person who has backing of many in media..

 

[JaDed]

But where is the evidence that it was caste based violence? Which caste was put down by those protests, which caste was discriminated due to the protests?

I know you have been hurt because i have exposed what goes in Bollywood..and this is your lame attempt to get back, but you have again ended up with egg on your face by shooting from the hips. Go and learn the meaning of casteism before you even use that word. Otherwise stupidity is free.

On the contrary I support your Bollywood rant but when other movie industry does well on that index u don't care.

As I said carry on.

 

[SandyB]

You may not remember this but when I posted a pic of mine on PP you were surprised that I was relatively of a lighter skin tone than most south Indians were. And you immediately asked me whether I was a Brahmin or not ? If that is not latent racism/casteism then i don't know what is?

That can't always be held against people. 10-12 centuries of social conditioning isn't going to disappear in a flash.

People could ask that out of ignorance, then you have to point it out. If they do it a second time, then they're what you said they are.

A lot of Indian prejudices arise from Ignorance of the "other".

 

[CricketCartoons]

That can't always be held against people. 10-12 centuries of social conditioning isn't going to disappear in a flash.

People could ask that out of ignorance, then you have to point it out. If they do it a second time, then they're what you said they are.

A lot of Indian prejudices arise from Ignorance of the "other".

Talking about skin tone is not necessarily casteism or racism, though it can manifest though that. especially in the indian context where siblings have differing skin tones, and skin tones are an important identifier of geographic identity. maybe those who get offended feel inferior about their skin tones and they need to change their attitude.

 

[SandyB]

Back to topic then - Has anyone in pakistan seen Bahubali ? What are your opinions ? There are reports of it doing well in Lahore and Karachi .. ?

 

[DHONI183]

Do I sense sarcasm ? The palm tree sequence was way OTT, but very imaginative though, just like the "horns on fire" cattle herd sequence.

Lol the war strategies and action was Way OTT.. If you leave brains at home and go to theatre to watch the movie then it was amazing but if you try and have any sense of logic or common sense while watching the movie then it has many loopholes.. Regardless compared to other Indian movies it was pretty good and enjoyable would recommend everyone to watch it atleast once..

Take any fantasy film and pick any scene, the action will always look over the top if we´re to look at things that way. What it comes down to is whether one liked it or not. For example, it´ll take an eternity to convince anyone that the trembling of the surface wasn´t over the top in 'Jurassic Park' (1993) whenever the dinosaurs walked in, if he/she doesn´t happen to like the film. If we´re going to look at things that way, that scene, which formed such basis of a wonderful film, was like way and way over the top and can only be appreciated if you lock your brains in a cupboard at home.

I use such terms if an action scene doesn´t fit into the plot, looks extremely fake and isn´t enjoyable. The action scene in this film though very very, very imaginative and of course enjoyable - for as well as the rest of the world at least. I enjoyed it more than any super-hero film that I´ve watched.

The money that this film is making and the applause it is getting from critics all around the world cannot be denied - none of which though automatically make it a great film. Individually, it all comes down to like and dislike.

 

[SandyB]

Take any fantasy film and pick any scene, the action will always look over the top if we´re to look at things that way. What it comes down to is whether one liked it or not. For example, it´ll take an eternity to convince anyone that the trembling of the surface wasn´t over the top in 'Jurassic Park' (1993) whenever the dinosaurs walked in, if he/she doesn´t happen to like the film. If we´re going to look at things that way, that scene, which formed such basis of a wonderful film, was like way and way over the top and can only be appreciated if you lock your brains in a cupboard at home.

OMG ! That is my favorite scene in all of Cinema. "WHERE"S THE GOAT ?? WHERE"S THE GOAT ". .And then this happens. .The goats leg falling on the car is amazing. Even though Spielberg lifted that scene off his own Jaws. . .I saw it in theatere for the first time sometime in 2000 (re-run), that was the moment I became a cinema buff .

The motorcycle-truck chase at the Beginning of T2:Judgement day and the opening war of "Empire strikes back " (especially using the ropes to fell the elephant like machine) evoke the same feelings you mentioned. Bahubali has moments like that ..

 

[CricketCartoons]

OMG ! That is my favorite scene in all of Cinema. "WHERE"S THE GOAT ?? WHERE"S THE GOAT ". .And then this happens. .The goats leg falling on the car is amazing. Even though Spielberg lifted that scene off his own Jaws. . .I saw it in theatere for the first time sometime in 2000 (re-run), that was the moment I became a cinema buff .

The motorcycle-truck chase at the Beginning of T2:Judgement day and the opening war of "Empire strikes back " (especially using the ropes to fell the elephant like machine) evoke the same feelings you mentioned. Bahubali has moments like that ..

I know, as a kid those are your favourite scenes, which dont have much cinematic appeal except that they wow the teenage kids who go woo hoo at such moments.. looking back these scenes look so ordinary, unless one watches them tinged with nostalgia.

I was watching baahubali in nainital with mrs CC, and there was a guy going ecstatic whenever prabhas made an entry..

 

[SandyB]

I know, as a kid those are your favourite scenes, which dont have much cinematic appeal except that they wow the teenage kids who go woo hoo at such moments.. looking back these scenes look so ordinary, unless one watches them tinged with nostalgia.

I was watching baahubali in nainital with mrs CC, and there was a guy going ecstatic whenever prabhas made an entry..

Whats ordinary about those sequences ?

Cinema isn't all about 2-3 people sitting in a dark room and murmuring to each other, which is what most artistic Bengali/Malayalam cinema is. Cinema is meant to push your senses and the limits of your imagination.

Both T2 and Jurassic park pushed film-making to its limits when they came out .

Tell me one science fiction film that still looks fresh and holds up visually like T2 ? They're even releasing a 3d remastered version this month .

T2 has a very emotional storyline, mother-son relationship and deals with complex themes like apocalypse, AI and the future of the human race etc, all while keeping itself routed as an Action/Chase film. Isn't that brilliant that a Director (James Cameron) can weave together so many themes cohesively , while executing some unbelievable stunts with practical effects (No CGI in the chase scenes, even the truck jumping the canal was real) ?

And coming to Jurassic Park, Spielberg is widely acknowledged as one of the greatest filmmakers alive. Of course many of his films have a pronounced emotional content, but the thrills, building of suspense , and the ability to keep us on our toes is a mark of how good he is. Even while being a fantasy/family movies , the raptor-Kitchen sequence in the movie is considered on of the most terrifying scenes ever in film .

When has India made a half decent horror/fantasy/sci-fi film without ripping of something from international cinema . ??

Satyajit ray had his share of innovation, but what made him rise above the other Indian filmamkers was to push the limits technology and storytelling the way the Spielbergs,Kubricks or camerons have done.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Whats ordinary about those sequences ?

Cinema isn't all about 2-3 people sitting in a dark room and murmuring to each other, which is what most artistic Bengali/Malayalam cinema is. Cinema is meant to push your senses and the limits of your imagination.

I agree Cinema is also meant to entertain you, not just to give a social message. A truck chasing a bike or ripples in a glass of water are ordinary, very ordinary by my standards. If you found them pushing the limit of cinema, then well you are entitled to it. Just that I have way higher standard when it comes to cinema.

 

[SandyB]

I agree Cinema is also meant to entertain you, not just to give a social message. A truck chasing a bike or ripples in a glass of water are ordinary, very ordinary by my standards. If you found them pushing the limit of cinema, then well you are entitled to it. Just that I have way higher standard when it comes to cinema.

Would you mind enlightening us with some instances what you make of High standard cinema ?

Seems like ground breaking visual effects, accurate depictions futuristic technology (which went on to be invented in real life) or possible future events , realization of physical stunts deemed impossible or even imaginative storytelling doesn't register as having any standard in your opinion. !

I enjoy my "Godfathers" and "taxi drivers" and "Revenants" as much as I enjoy this fare. That's called having diverse taste and an open mind. Its just like ones taste in food .