[VIDEO] Circle-style Kabaddi World Cup in Pakistan (Pakistan beats India in final)

[ahmedzee]

Because the Indian team didnot participate.

So the Indian team participating was ur bathroom keepers team? Lol

 

[Ronaldo7]

Kabbadi was originated in Tamil Nadu where the poster is from, also this format is Punjab oriented other states in India don’t really play much of this.

Even in Asia Iran, Korea, Japan actually play the other format, which you don’t see “others” playing.

Tamil Nadu?
Show me the proof because from what i can see/read, it may have originated in the Sistan region in Iran

 

[Ronaldo7]

So the Indian team participating was ur bathroom keepers team? Lol

They’re just salty lol.
Most of them don’t even know their own players names and are coming here to undermine the cup.
Sore losers

 

[Swashbuckler]

Tamil Nadu?
Show me the proof because from what i can see/read, it may have originated in the Sistan region in Iran

What we know in India is that it originated in ancient Tamil Nadu and spread to North.


https://www.sportskeeda.com/kabaddi/history-and-origin-kabaddi

https://medium.com/@LuckyWrites/kabaddi-a-viewpoint-8b85e180a7c3

https://www.sportsnetxyz.com/2020/01/kabaddi-game/

Kabbadi is the corrupt prononciation of 'Kai Pidi' which in Tamil means holding hands. In Tamil kai means hand, pidi means hold. When you keep repeating it fast it sounds like kabbadi.

I don't know about Iran, always thought it was a South Asian origin sport. Will be intreresting to see what kabaddi means in their language.

 

[Ronaldo7]

What we know in India is that it originated in ancient Tamil Nadu and spread to North.


https://www.sportskeeda.com/kabaddi/history-and-origin-kabaddi

https://medium.com/@LuckyWrites/kabaddi-a-viewpoint-8b85e180a7c3

https://www.sportsnetxyz.com/2020/01/kabaddi-game/

Kabbadi is the corrupt prononciation of 'Kai Pidi' which in Tamil means holding hands. In Tamil kai means hand, pidi means hold. When you keep repeating it fast it sounds like kabbadi.

I don't know about Iran, always thought it was a South Asian origin sport. Will be intreresting to see what kabaddi means in their language.

All three sources were indian rather than neutral but as they were informative i will let it slide
Thanks

 

[Swashbuckler]

All three sources were indian rather than neutral but as they were informative i will let it slide
Thanks

Well the literature of this sport isn't widespread, otherwise I would have tried to get other sources. I knew it as Tamil because breaking it as 'kai pidi' made sense in my language. Will be interesting to see what Iranians say, might have existed with different name or slightly different rules in their land. Ready to have an open mind because unlike cricket this is an ancient sport, hence details about origin are open to interpretation. I have been told that kabbadi is also mentioned in Tamil epics (1500 years old), since I am not so well read maybe I will ask my elders the next time. Rules may have been different, like how chess in ancient India (chaturanga) was similar but not same as how we know the game today.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Look at you making excuses.
"nOt ThE oFfIcIaL tEaM"

Can you even name ONE player from the so called "official" team?

I think you got quiet a few names.

Excuses? Lol.

This is like getting a few cricketers from India and not the bcci selected team, beating them and then saying that you beat the indian team.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So the Indian team participating was ur bathroom keepers team? Lol

Yes. Read the thread. You will know.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They’re just salty lol.
Most of them don’t even know their own players names and are coming here to undermine the cup.
Sore losers

What we know is that the Indian federation didnot send any team snd Pakistan got a rag yag bunch of players and called them the Indian team.

Thats all you can do. Beat a fake team and claim a fake victory. Because in reality the real indian team has never lost a Kabbadi WC.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The so called “fake” tournament was won by India in India previously. Only fake thing here is u trying ur best to make it a non official tour many.. l

Me? Lol.

Read the thread.

No Indian team was sent.

Some players went on their own and Pakistan declared this rag tag bunch as Indian team.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Let me try-

To name a few from the memory..

Pardeep Narwal
Rohit Kumar
Pawan Sehrawat
Ajay Thakur
Maninder Singh
Sandeep Narwal
Mohir Chhillar
Deepak Hooda
Girish Ernak


Besides them if there is an official team for any tournament right now I’m sure they are going to select 2 players- Sidharth Desai and his brother(Forgot his name). These 2 are beasts.

Those are some fine names but they play standard style kabbadi, the one we see in PKL and Asian Games. This thread is about circle style kabbadi (check the videos) which is mainly a Punjab thing, a different variant of the sport. We don't know how standard players will do in this version and vice versa.

I don't know the name of a single circle style player so don't know whether we sent our best team or some random names as joshila is saying. For all we know maybe they are our best in this variant but because of bilateral tensions and this being hosted in Pakistan there is controversy over whether this is official Indian team. We also don't know the circumstances in which previous editions of this WC were played.

Right thing to do is congratulate the Pakistani team and move ahead. This is just a sport, shouldn't fret too much. This is the first WC win, also happened on home soil, so why take away their joy?

 

[ahsan17]

Me? Lol.

Read the thread.

No Indian team was sent.

Some players went on their own and Pakistan declared this rag tag bunch as Indian team.

Ok, let's say no Indian team was sent. Can you mention the official Indian team and tell us how many of them participated in this tournament? When was the last few times the team played, and how many of them played here? You are making claims without backing them up.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ok, let's say no Indian team was sent. Can you mention the official Indian team and tell us how many of them participated in this tournament? When was the last few times the team played, and how many of them played here? You are making claims without backing them up.

I made no claims.

The Indian Kabbadi federation, the Indian Olympic Association and the sports ministry of India said that no team was sent.

This is like the BCCI and ICC saying no indian cricket team has been sent.

Pakistan cannot decide which is the Indian team. Though they can make false claims.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Those are some fine names but they play standard style kabbadi, the one we see in PKL and Asian Games. This thread is about circle style kabbadi (check the videos) which is mainly a Punjab thing, a different variant of the sport. We don't know how standard players will do in this version and vice versa.

I don't know the name of a single circle style player so don't know whether we sent our best team or some random names as joshila is saying. For all we know maybe they are our best in this variant but because of bilateral tensions and this being hosted in Pakistan there is controversy over whether this is official Indian team. We also don't know the circumstances in which previous editions of this WC were played.

Right thing to do is congratulate the Pakistani team and move ahead. This is just a sport, shouldn't fret too much. This is the first WC win, also happened on home soil, so why take away their joy?

Can there be a official Indian team thats not selected by BCCI and not endorsed by GoI and ICC?

 

[Itachi]

Those are some fine names but they play standard style kabbadi, the one we see in PKL and Asian Games. This thread is about circle style kabbadi (check the videos) which is mainly a Punjab thing, a different variant of the sport. We don't know how standard players will do in this version and vice versa.

I don't know the name of a single circle style player so don't know whether we sent our best team or some random names as joshila is saying. For all we know maybe they are our best in this variant but because of bilateral tensions and this being hosted in Pakistan there is controversy over whether this is official Indian team. We also don't know the circumstances in which previous editions of this WC were played.

Right thing to do is congratulate the Pakistani team and move ahead. This is just a sport, shouldn't fret too much. This is the first WC win, also happened on home soil, so why take away their joy?

Nothing to do with party pooper. Facts don't care about emotions.

Its not the Indian team. It's a team which happens to have Indian players. It's nothing different than some players going to another county as a tourist and playing some games. But as long as it doesn't have approval from authorities, it isn't Indian team even if the same team will represent Indian team in the next tournament which could be sanctioned by the body.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Can there be a official Indian team thats not selected by BCCI and not endorsed by GoI and ICC?

Which one is the governing body of circle style kabbadi? I don't know details so won't comment. Does Govt of Punjab administer this tournament?

 

[ahsan17]

I made no claims.

The Indian Kabbadi federation, the Indian Olympic Association and the sports ministry of India said that no team was sent.

This is like the BCCI and ICC saying no indian cricket team has been sent.

Pakistan cannot decide which is the Indian team. Though they can make false claims.

You can play the sementics whichever way you like. For any reasonable person, if the players participating were the same or similar to the regular team, it would be considered a genuine victory for them.

 

[last_knight]

The so called “fake” tournament was won by India in India previously. Only fake thing here is u trying ur best to make it a non official tour many.. l

I have followed previous editions of this World Cup.

"Won" by India is misleading. Because in atleast 02 editions, couple of top players of Pakistan Team were not granted Visa by India.

 

[Swashbuckler]

But as long as it doesn't have approval from authorities, it isn't Indian team even if the same team will represent Indian team in the next tournament which could be sanctioned by the body.

Which body is the authority in this case? Punjab Kabaddi Federation? Previously in other sports we have had such turf wars, like athletics and hockey where multiple authorities claimed to be the sole representative. Since this isn't a popular sport I am uninformed.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Which body is the authority in this case? Punjab Kabaddi Federation? Previously in other sports we have had such turf wars, like athletics and hockey where multiple authorities claimed to be the sole representative. Since this isn't a popular sport I am uninformed.

Infact it was the Punjab Kabbadi Federation who sent this team lol.

 

[emranabbas]

Bit confused about the whole topic

So the team participating from the Indian side were they Indians that are now been disowned by their government for losing to Pakistan?

Or

Just random people that are being called Indians by the Pakistanis

Would the reaction have been the same if team had beaten Pakistan?

 

[Itachi]

Which body is the authority in this case? Punjab Kabaddi Federation? Previously in other sports we have had such turf wars, like athletics and hockey where multiple authorities claimed to be the sole representative. Since this isn't a popular sport I am uninformed.

The Indian Kabbadi federation
the Indian Olympic Association
the sports ministry of India

Needs clearance from the three bodies. This team had none.

 

[Itachi]

Bit confused about the whole topic

So the team participating from the Indian side were they Indians that are now been disowned by their government for losing to Pakistan?

Or

Just random people that are being called Indians by the Pakistanis

Would the reaction have been the same if team had beaten Pakistan?

The team wasn't disowned. The team didn't have the clearance in the first place. Disowning would have been had they had clearance which was later revoked. But this team didn't have the permission in the first place.

It doesn't matter whether the team wins or loses. When you don't have the permission, you can't call yourself the official team.

 

[TrentDevil]

Let me try-

To name a few from the memory..

Pardeep Narwal
Rohit Kumar
Pawan Sehrawat
Ajay Thakur
Maninder Singh
Sandeep Narwal
Mohir Chhillar
Deepak Hooda
Girish Ernak


Besides them if there is an official team for any tournament right now I’m sure they are going to select 2 players- Sidharth Desai and his brother(Forgot his name). These 2 are beasts.

They don't play circle style Kabaddi

 

[Babu Bhaiya]

They don't play circle style Kabaddi

I didn’t even know this format existed till i saw this thread in PP. I have been following kabaddi for good 8-10 years from Anup Kumar and Rakesh Kumar days which is standard Kabaddi format ( The one which is there in Asian Games and Kabaddi league).

From Google search it appeared that its mainly Punjab Kabaddi Federation thing. Congratulations to Pakistan for winning whatever style World Cup but my question is that - Can any team be called ‘official’ if some players forming a random team, participating in a tournament without any recognition from the main sporting body of the country or without clearance from GOI?

How will Pakistan react if some guys form a team, arrive in India to play some tape ball cricket world cup by managing their visas on their own( without clearance from PCB or GoP)?

I don’t think reactions from India folks here are unjustified!!!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Which one is the governing body of circle style kabbadi? I don't know details so won't comment. Does Govt of Punjab administer this tournament?

AKFI or Amateur kabbadi foundation of India is the governing body of Kabbadi.

I

 

[cricketjoshila]

You can play the sementics whichever way you like. For any reasonable person, if the players participating were the same or similar to the regular team, it would be considered a genuine victory for them.

That's not how national teams are anoinated.

India didnot send a team.

Pakistanis cannot determine which is the Indian team.

A bunch of players from India went to pakistan. Pakistans team beat them. But they didnt beat the Indian team as the team fidnt go to pakistan.

Pakistan can claim whatever fake victories they want.

Indian team was never beaten.

 

[HEYY]

"PACKF Secretary-General Muhammad Sarwar Bhatt confirmed, to The Times of India, that ‘Indian’ players have been distributed in other participating teams of England, Canada and Australia. Bhatt further said that some of the teams were incomplete prior to their arrival in Pakistan and players with Indian passport have filled up the vacant slots."

All that you need to know about the standard and type of tournament this was. This wasn't the official kabaddi tournament that is hosted by IKF.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...r-reaching-pakistan-without-permission/551989

 

[cricketjoshila]

Which body is the authority in this case? Punjab Kabaddi Federation? Previously in other sports we have had such turf wars, like athletics and hockey where multiple authorities claimed to be the sole representative. Since this isn't a popular sport I am uninformed.

No turf war here.

The official team is always sanctioned by the Sports ministry.

See Pakistan cant get an Indian team to tour pakistan.

Ofcourse no Kabbadi tournament will mean anything if India is missing.

So they hired a few Indians, took them to Pakistan and now claim they have beaten the Indian team.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bit confused about the whole topic

So the team participating from the Indian side were they Indians that are now been disowned by their government for losing to Pakistan?

Or

Just random people that are being called Indians by the Pakistanis

Would the reaction have been the same if team had beaten Pakistan?

Random players from India were taken to Pakistan and called indian team.

No official Indian team was sent to Pakistan.

 

[Itachi]

Further:

PKA vice-president Tejinder Singh Middukhera said: “Pakistan Kabaddi Federation is organising the championship to celebrate the 550th birth anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev and since circle-style kabaddi is played only in Punjab, we have got the invitation to participate there.”

“If a team represents a country, it needs the necessary permission from the government,” he added. “But the players affiliated with us went there (Pakistan) on their own and will play as a unit. They have been to other countries, including Australia, New Zealand, Canada and USA, in a similar manner to participate in various tournaments.”

 

[Bigboii]

Further:

PKA vice-president Tejinder Singh Middukhera said: “Pakistan Kabaddi Federation is organising the championship to celebrate the 550th birth anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev and since circle-style kabaddi is played only in Punjab, we have got the invitation to participate there.”

“If a team represents a country, it needs the necessary permission from the government,” he added. “But the players affiliated with us went there (Pakistan) on their own and will play as a unit. They have been to other countries, including Australia, New Zealand, Canada and USA, in a similar manner to participate in various tournaments.”

Damn hopefully know CricketJoshillas rant ends PLEASE GOD!!!

 

[Bigboii]

Crazy thing is I knew this controversy would happen if the final is between these two country but the Indian team was very competitive and I think they dominated Pak team for a while too it was I think 25-30 to India at one point
But I hope this victory propels the great sport of kabadi to the next level cause it is a whole lot interesting than cricket or a lot of other sports and the physical aspect of the game is good to watch too but due to the coverage looking village level at best the eyeballs are not there which I hope changes in the near future

 

[Itachi]

Crazy thing is I knew this controversy would happen if the final is between these two country but the Indian team was very competitive and I think they dominated Pak team for a while too it was I think 25-30 to India at one point
But I hope this victory propels the great sport of kabadi to the next level cause it is a whole lot interesting than cricket or a lot of other sports and the physical aspect of the game is good to watch too but due to the coverage looking village level at best the eyeballs are not there which I hope changes in the near future

Controversy like this does harm the game rather than doing any good.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Damn hopefully know CricketJoshillas rant ends PLEASE GOD!!!

So you agree that it was not the Indian team but some Indians who went there in their personal capacity to plaY?

 

[TrentDevil]

I didn’t even know this format existed till i saw this thread in PP. I have been following kabaddi for good 8-10 years from Anup Kumar and Rakesh Kumar days which is standard Kabaddi format ( The one which is there in Asian Games and Kabaddi league).

From Google search it appeared that its mainly Punjab Kabaddi Federation thing. Congratulations to Pakistan for winning whatever style World Cup but my question is that - Can any team be called ‘official’ if some players forming a random team, participating in a tournament without any recognition from the main sporting body of the country or without clearance from GOI?

How will Pakistan react if some guys form a team, arrive in India to play some tape ball cricket world cup by managing their visas on their own( without clearance from PCB or GoP)?

I don’t think reactions from India folks here are unjustified!!!

The thing here is that whether this is official or unofficial format of Kabaddi that should not be used to demean someone's achievement, India has won all the previous WCs held in this format and this talk never would have arisen at that time.

As far as disowning the team or this not being an official Indian team debate goes, that will carry on and will never reach a conclusion. The fact remains that Indian players, whether representing Indian team or not came to Pakistan to play in the event and that's what i feel everyone should appreciate, that despite what's going on between both the countries, there is still some hope that someday we might see things become normal.

Regarding the debate that any Pakistani unofficial team visiting India to play any sort of event, I don't think Indian government will issue visas to them, they aren't giving visas to official delegations so forget about unofficial ones, just today Pak wrestling team were given visas by India after delaying the process for quite sometime without any reason, because of the delay game, the Pakistani wrestlers will only be able to participate in freestyle category and remember this is Asian Championship wrestling.

Regarding the Kabaddi format debate, i also didn't knew about circle style format and used to watch standard one a lot, mostly Pro-Kabaddi league but after seeing this format, i believe this is much much better than standard format, it's more thrilling and has a great potential if it's brought at the world stage.

 

[Bigboii]

The thing here is that whether this is official or unofficial format of Kabaddi that should not be used to demean someone's achievement, India has won all the previous WCs held in this format and this talk never would have arisen at that time.

As far as disowning the team or this not being an official Indian team debate goes, that will carry on and will never reach a conclusion. The fact remains that Indian players, whether representing Indian team or not came to Pakistan to play in the event and that's what i feel everyone should appreciate, that despite what's going on between both the countries, there is still some hope that someday we might see things become normal.

Regarding the debate that any Pakistani unofficial team visiting India to play any sort of event, I don't think Indian government will issue visas to them, they aren't giving visas to official delegations so forget about unofficial ones, just today Pak wrestling team were given visas by India after delaying the process for quite sometime without any reason, because of the delay game, the Pakistani wrestlers will only be able to participate in freestyle category and remember this is Asian Championship wrestling.

Regarding the Kabaddi format debate, i also didn't knew about circle style format and used to watch standard one a lot, mostly Pro-Kabaddi league but after seeing this format, i believe this is much much better than standard format, it's more thrilling and has a great potential if it's brought at the world stage.

This format looks like an actual physical sport like rugby or American football but the indoor stuff was giving the feeling of badminton or something which is not a good representation of the sport

 

[Itachi]

The thing here is that whether this is official or unofficial format of Kabaddi that should not be used to demean someone's achievement, India has won all the previous WCs held in this format and this talk never would have arisen at that time.

IKF doesn't recognize this format. Hence, this isn't regarded as WC. If ICC doesn't recognize a tournament featuring all the teams, it won't be a WC either.

As far as disowning the team or this not being an official Indian team debate goes, that will carry on and will never reach a conclusion.

There is already a conclusion.

PKA vice-president Tejinder Singh Middukhera said: “Pakistan Kabaddi Federation is organising the championship to celebrate the 550th birth anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev and since circle-style kabaddi is played only in Punjab, we have got the invitation to participate there.”

“If a team represents a country, it needs the necessary permission from the government,” he added. “But the players affiliated with us went there (Pakistan) on their own and will play as a unit.

The fact remains that Indian players, whether representing Indian team or not came to Pakistan to play in the event and that's what i feel everyone should appreciate, that despite what's going on between both the countries, there is still some hope that someday we might see things become normal.

No one is looking down upon on anyone. Just don't call it as "Indian team" as a team needs to fulfil many criterions before calling it as "Indian team" or wearing indian jersey or using indian flag as a team in the tournament. This team didn't fulfil the criteria.

Regarding the debate that any Pakistani unofficial team visiting India to play any sort of event, I don't think Indian government will issue visas to them, they aren't giving visas to official delegations so forget about unofficial ones, just today Pak wrestling team were given visas by India after delaying the process for quite sometime without any reason, because of the delay game, the Pakistani wrestlers will only be able to participate in freestyle category and remember this is Asian Championship wrestling.

So?

Try to spun it as much you want, but facts doesn't care about emotions. Cheer for the worldcup win. But don't call this team consisted of some indian tourists as "indian team". Too much to ask?

 

[TrentDevil]

This format looks like an actual physical sport like rugby or American football but the indoor stuff was giving the feeling of badminton or something which is not a good representation of the sport

Standard format is also good, it has it's own thrill but i think it circle style is marketed properly and becomes a proper sport rather than Punjab based sport, it can easily overtake the standard style.
Another point is that you need absolute Pahalwans literally beasts for this format, while in standard style you need some Patli Kamar boys as well who come in handy as attackers.

On a side note, what made this event great was Punjabi commentary(I don't understand Punjabi completely) but man those commies could bring a person back from dead.

 

[TrentDevil]

IKF doesn't recognize this format. Hence, this isn't regarded as WC. If ICC doesn't recognize a tournament featuring all the teams, it won't be a WC either.



There is already a conclusion.

PKA vice-president Tejinder Singh Middukhera said: “Pakistan Kabaddi Federation is organising the championship to celebrate the 550th birth anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev and since circle-style kabaddi is played only in Punjab, we have got the invitation to participate there.”

“If a team represents a country, it needs the necessary permission from the government,” he added. “But the players affiliated with us went there (Pakistan) on their own and will play as a unit.



No one is looking down upon on anyone. Just don't call it as "Indian team" as a team needs to fulfil many criterions before calling it as "Indian team" or wearing indian jersey or using indian flag as a team in the tournament. This team didn't fulfil the criteria.

So?

Try to spun it as much you want, but facts doesn't care about emotions. Cheer for the worldcup win. But don't call this team consisted of some indian tourists as "indian team". Too much to ask?

Maaaan, you are full of negativity, please go through my post again with a cool head

 

[Swashbuckler]

This format looks like an actual physical sport like rugby or American football but the indoor stuff was giving the feeling of badminton or something which is not a good representation of the sport

Indoor one looks like wrestling, very explosive and speed/agility plays a bigger role because of smaller confined area. Many participants in indoor kabbadi tournaments from other countries have wrestling backgroud. Iran is such a solid team in that variant, again a great wrestling nation.

 

[Bigboii]

So you agree that it was not the Indian team but some Indians who went there in their personal capacity to plaY?

They were professional Indian Kabadi players(evidence they reached the finals and dominated a full fledged Pak team for a while - random kabadi player from India can't do that) and they have been going to a lot of countries just like that for some reason here "They have been to other countries, including Australia, New Zealand, Canada and USA, in a similar manner to participate in various tournaments." and what I think the reason is that circle style is not the standardized form of kabadi like it's maybe the T10 (even though circle style is the original form of kabadi) version of the sport but the Indian Kabadi federation only participates in one form of the game and they are looking for more standardization in the sport so they can modernaze the sport so they turn a blind eye to players who participates in circle style but they don't make it official because they believe that in order to bring the the sport to the next level they have to approve only one style of kabadi but they are willing to let it slide when thier kabadi players participate in different styles of the game.

But hopefully this controversy erodes cause it's not even about winning or losing I just want to see the sport of kabadi grow.

 

[Bigboii]

Indoor one looks like wrestling, very explosive and speed/agility plays a bigger role because of smaller confined area. Many participants in indoor kabbadi tournaments from other countries have wrestling backgroud. Iran is such a solid team in that variant, again a great wrestling nation.

But my problem is Kabadi is not wrestling tho and the space is too small to have an actual kabadi game like you can just basically jump back after raid and it is so boring to watch because the whole point is to "run" back fast after the raid cause it's a big part of the ground that you have to cover but because the arenas are so small the playing area also become smaller
So I think arenas are not the right fit cause kabadi is not a combat sports the point is to run and cover area which doesn't happen indoor

 

[cricketjoshila]

They were professional Indian Kabadi players(evidence they reached the finals and dominated a full fledged Pak team for a while - random kabadi player from India can't do that) and they have been going to a lot of countries just like that for some reason here "They have been to other countries, including Australia, New Zealand, Canada and USA, in a similar manner to participate in various tournaments." and what I think the reason is that circle style is not the standardized form of kabadi like it's maybe the T10 (even though circle style is the original form of kabadi) version of the sport but the Indian Kabadi federation only participates in one form of the game and they are looking for more standardization in the sport so they can modernaze the sport so they turn a blind eye to players who participates in circle style but they don't make it official because they believe that in order to bring the the sport to the next level they have to approve only one style of kabadi but they are willing to let it slide when thier kabadi players participate in different styles of the game.

But hopefully this controversy erodes cause it's not even about winning or losing I just want to see the sport of kabadi grow.

How pak players played or didnt doesn't determine whether the other team is Indian team or not. If pakistan got dominated for a while of won a close game, doesn't mean team is the Indian team.

The reason why no Indian team will go to Pakistan is because there is no govt permission. No matter the sport or format.

Some players went in their individual capacity. Thats fine. But to say its the Indian team is not.

 

[Bigboii]

Standard format is also good, it has it's own thrill but i think it circle style is marketed properly and becomes a proper sport rather than Punjab based sport, it can easily overtake the standard style.
Another point is that you need absolute Pahalwans literally beasts for this format, while in standard style you need some Patli Kamar boys as well who come in handy as attackers.

On a side note, what made this event great was Punjabi commentary(I don't understand Punjabi completely) but man those commies could bring a person back from dead.

I heard the same thing in soccer where a friend of mine said commentary in English is ok but commentary in Spanish makes the blood pumping so the canclusion is English is a boring langague for commentary

 

[Bigboii]

How pak players played or didnt doesn't determine whether the other team is Indian team or not. If pakistan got dominated for a while of won a close game, doesn't mean team is the Indian team.

The reason why no Indian team will go to Pakistan is because there is no govt permission. No matter the sport or format.

Some players went in their individual capacity. Thats fine. But to say its the Indian team is not.

So basically I think Indian team doesn't play circle style they just play indoor one's
But what my point was that we shouldn't take anything away from the guys because they were not random people they were professional Indian Kabadi players that's all!

 

[Bigboii]

Indoor Kabadi is a SAZISH(a Pakistani 's favorite word) against the bulky phelwan looking guys
They want to see soccer players type people in a kabadi game which is stupid cause if you can't put on muscle and a bit of fat (just look at some of the NFL players they are marginally obese) just play cricket, kabadi is obviously not for you

 

[Itachi]

So basically I think Indian team doesn't play circle style they just play indoor one's
But what my point was that we shouldn't take anything away from the guys because they were not random people they were professional Indian Kabadi players that's all!

No wonder Pakistani institutions doesn't seem to understand the system in most cases.

If you want to feel good about beating some professionals who happens to be Indian, that's good for you.

The only objection was, using the term "Indian team" which can't be used in this case.

For example, if I am playing for my department, I'll have to participate with authority letter from my department.

I may as well compete as an individual without taking any approval from my department but I can't represent my department in this case.

 

[Bigboii]

No wonder Pakistani institutions doesn't seem to understand the system in most cases.

If you want to feel good about beating some professionals who happens to be Indian, that's good for you.

The only objection was, using the term "Indian team" which can't be used in this case.

For example, if I am playing for my department, I'll have to participate with authority letter from my department.

I may as well compete as an individual without taking any approval from my department but I can't represent my department in this case.

You are one negative dude aren't you!
Okay it wasn't a Indian national team than what people had a great time and it helped the sport of kabadi grow and brought excitment the fans due to the label of bieng an India, Pakistan game
Not everything is about winning or losing, this helped the sport grow despite the B***h**t Indian Kabadi federation refusal to play with Pakistan who acted like a bunch of little kids who are like BABY voice "I don't want to play with you we are happy with playing "kabadi" with nobody's like Korea and stuff "
I don't care about India winning or losing I just want to see the game of Kabadi to grow and it will never grow if India keep acting like a petty, whiny kid so I approve of what Pak kabadi federation did because for years they wanted India to come but they didn't cause it was ruled by a an absolute Bufoon of a PM so Pak didn't wait for the Bufoon to get out of power they organized an unofficial India team. Well you want tham to be hanged because they organized a team since the the petty Indian federation don't want to play?
Pak federation did the right thing because no sport in India Pak grows without a competitive India Pak contest from hockey to cricket and they can't wait for the petty and childish behavior to end so they did what they had to do in order for the game of Kabadi to prosper in Pakistan. So I am Cool with it cause as long as the sport wins I as a fan of kabadi win
( I am sorry reading back it sounds very anti-Indian but that's not what I intended I am just frustrated with the childish behavior of Indian federation/government because we both need to grow the sport so why are we not working together on this)

 

[Itachi]

You are one negative dude aren't you!
Okay it wasn't a Indian national team than what people had a great time and it helped the sport of kabadi grow and brought excitment the fans due to the label of bieng an India, Pakistan game
Not everything is about winning or losing, this helped the sport grow despite the B***h**t Indian Kabadi federation refusal to play with Pakistan who acted like a bunch of little kids who are like BABY voice "I don't want to play with you we are happy with playing "kabadi" with nobody's like Korea and stuff "
I don't care about India winning or losing I just want to see the game of Kabadi to grow and it will never grow if India keep acting like a petty, whiny kid so I approve of what Pak kabadi federation did because for years they wanted India to come but they didn't cause it was ruled by a an absolute Bufoon of a PM so Pak didn't wait for the Bufoon to get out of power they organized an unofficial India team. Well you want tham to be hanged because they organized a team since the the petty Indian federation don't want to play?
Pak federation did the right thing because no sport in India Pak grows without a competitive India Pak contest from hockey to cricket and they can't wait for the petty and childish behavior to end so they did what they had to do in order for the game of Kabadi to prosper in Pakistan. So I am Cool with it cause as long as the sport wins I as a fan of kabadi win
( I am sorry reading back it sounds very anti-Indian but that's not what I intended I am just frustrated with the childish behavior of Indian federation/government because we both need to grow the sport so why are we not working together on this)

You started with me being negative but then what you proceed to wrote is 10 times more negative than what I was accused of. Read your post again and check.

Every Indian poster saying just one thing. Play whatever you want, invite whomever you want.

Just don't use the false representation context. That's it.

If you want the sport to grow, then making false claims certainly isn't the way to go for as it does give publicity in a way that you don't intend.

 

[Greenstorm]

Did Babbat Gujar and Ubaidullah kambo played from our side in this tournament ? They were our best raiders 6-7 years ago. Musharraf Janjua used to be captain back then.

 

[Bigboii]

You started with me being negative but then what you proceed to wrote is 10 times more negative than what I was accused of. Read your post again and check.

Every Indian poster saying just one thing. Play whatever you want, invite whomever you want.

Just don't use the false representation context. That's it.

If you want the sport to grow, then making false claims certainly isn't the way to go for as it does give publicity in a way that you don't intend.

Alright think about it if Pak was like yo this is a fake Indian team that we invited do you guys like it or not than the result would be
The pakpassion reaching barely half a page, crowds non-existent for the game
So the B S helped the game grow I could give two s**ts about the team bieng fake or not I just liked the facts that there were more eyeballs for the kabadi games

 

[Bigboii]

Did Babbat Gujar and Ubaidullah kambo played from our side in this tournament ? They were our best raiders 6-7 years ago. Musharraf Janjua used to be captain back then.

I remember Musharraf he was a proper beast but these guys seem new

 

[Itachi]

Alright think about it if Pak was like yo this is a fake Indian team that we invited do you guys like it or not than the result would be
The pakpassion reaching barely half a page, crowds non-existent for the game
So the B S helped the game grow I could give two s**ts about the team bieng fake or not I just liked the facts that there were more eyeballs for the kabadi games

This is what is wrong that happens in many start ups. They choose cheap publicity and then it all goes downhill when their credibility takes a hit in longer run.

 

[Azzurri]

[MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] Reincarnation of Guatham Gambhir!

 

[Mesozoic]

LMAO.

This is like inviting a few club cricketers from India , beating them in a T10 game and claiming you've beaten the "Indian team" and are world champions.

Talk about chotay chotay khushiyaan.

 

[Itachi]

[MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION] Reincarnation of Guatham Gambhir!

Atleast correctly write the name. It's Gautam gambhir

 

[Test lover]

Pakistan can't beat any team of pro Kabaddi league forget about indian team

 

[Bigboii]

Pakistan can't beat any team of pro Kabaddi league forget about indian team

In which style tho if you are talking about circle style than you have no idea how kabadi works like you are absolutely clueless

 

[ahsan17]

LMAO.

This is like inviting a few club cricketers from India , beating them in a T10 game and claiming you've beaten the "Indian team" and are world champions.

Talk about chotay chotay khushiyaan.

What's your evidence the players that played here were not the ones that would generally represent India?

 

[IAJ]

Lol at a few Indian posters being defensive here. Why are you just not ignoring the comments?

Besides, the important thing would be to know how the indian team felt being in Pakistan. Are they back home now?

 

[Mesozoic]

What's your evidence the players that played here were not the ones that would generally represent India?

Kindly read through the thread. You'll know why.

 

[cricketjoshila]

What's your evidence the players that played here were not the ones that would generally represent India?

You dont know who would be selected, who wouldnt be. Teams are not decided like this.

 

[ahsan17]

You dont know who would be selected, who wouldnt be. Teams are not decided like this.

But generally teams do not do wholesale changes, i.e. get rid of 80% of the team from one game to the next. If the team was similar to the one that last played for India, it can be reasonably called a fair game.

Kindly read through the thread. You'll know why.

I have. The points that were made regarding this were rebutted. If you have a post(s) that I should look at, send me the post number or the link.

 

[cricketjoshila]

But generally teams do not do wholesale changes, i.e. get rid of 80% of the team from one game to the next. If the team was similar to the one that last played for India, it can be reasonably called a fair game.



I have. The points that were made regarding this were rebutted. If you have a post(s) that I should look at, send me the post number or the link.

Again. Indian team is the one thats selected by the Federation, approved bybthe govt and sent to compete.

Rest doesn't matter.

 

[Technics 1210]

Mubarek ho Pakistan!

That's twice India has been beaten in World finals by Pakistan, and East Pakistan, in less than a week!

 

[Azzurri]

Atleast correctly write the name. It's Gautam gambhir

As if i care.

 

[Mesozoic]

Mubarek ho Pakistan!

That's twice India has been beaten in World finals by Pakistan, and East Pakistan, in less than a week!

A.A.K Niazi wants to know your location.

 

[Itachi]

As if i care.

I do. When writing a name, it should be correct.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Congratulations to Pakistan.

 

[Hornbill]

The coach of the "unofficial" kabbadi team that returned from Pakistan on Monday after losing to the home team in the "unauthorised" World Cup tournament without the "consent" of the Indian government said the team went there without violating any laws. "If we defied the laws, Indian authorities might question us on our arrival. Nobody asked us about any illegal act we did or on our visit," coach Harpreet Singh Baba told the media. Pakistan defeated India won 43-41 in the final of the World Cup on Sunday in Lahore's Punjab Stadium. He said the players had nothing to do with the Punjab Kabaddi Association. The team reached India via the Attari-Wagah joint check post, some 30 km from here. It reached Lahore on February 9 to participate in the tournament hosted by Pakistan. He said the team got the invite and went there to take part in the tournament at an individual level. "We have not represented India. The team members participate in various tournaments across the world. They went to Pakistan in their individual capacity, not representing any particular federation," he said. On being asked how could they use jerseys with the word India inscribed on it, Baba said: "We were given jerseys there." Earlier, both the Amateur Kabaddi Federation of India (AKFI) and the Sports Ministry had clarified that they had not send any official team to Pakistan. Even as India clarified that it had not given permission

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...d-indian-kabaddi-team-kaba-1647363-2020-02-17
players returned home without even being questioned lol Bh@kths were calling them anti nationals

 

[Azzurri]

I do. When writing a name, it should be correct.

I don't especially those who don't deserve respect.

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

circle kabbadi is best that other kabbadi is just to make numbers it's not a proper sport.I remember Babar gujjar who was a wonderful player I don't know where he is now though.

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

Indians are being sour here. I watched the entire match, the Indian team was good. Once they lost, the posters are in denial that this is not the Indian team

Hey Indians - Your team and hence your country LOST. Just admit it and move on. Don't create drama by disowning your own kind. LOL.

On the topic - Great win by the Pakistan team. Indian players were good too. Hope we send them off by providing them with some more of our fantastic tea

 

[Babu Bhaiya]

Indians are being sour here. I watched the entire match, the Indian team was good. Once they lost, the posters are in denial that this is not the Indian team

Hey Indians - Your team and hence your country LOST. Just admit it and move on. Don't create drama by disowning your own kind. LOL.

On the topic - Great win by the Pakistan team. Indian players were good too. Hope we send them off by providing them with some more of our fantastic tea

I don’t know if its sheer attempt of ignorance or plain stupidity but this controversy on these players being ‘official’ team representing India started from day 1 as soon as everybody came to know that some guys have traveled to Pakistan to participate in this tournament.

It has got nothing to do with losing or winning lol. India lost to Pakistan in Champions Trophy. Did they disown the team? Cricket is the biggest sport in India. Hence Losing in that game must have been more shameful than this particular style of Kabaddi which nobody knows about outside Punjab.

 

[Smbhayi]

Indians are being sour here. I watched the entire match, the Indian team was good. Once they lost, the posters are in denial that this is not the Indian team

Hey Indians - Your team and hence your country LOST. Just admit it and move on. Don't create drama by disowning your own kind. LOL.

On the topic - Great win by the Pakistan team. Indian players were good too. Hope we send them off by providing them with some more of our fantastic tea

even before tournament starts they proved its not official team..

 

[cricketjoshila]

Indians are being sour here. I watched the entire match, the Indian team was good. Once they lost, the posters are in denial that this is not the Indian team

Hey Indians - Your team and hence your country LOST. Just admit it and move on. Don't create drama by disowning your own kind. LOL.

On the topic - Great win by the Pakistan team. Indian players were good too. Hope we send them off by providing them with some more of our fantastic tea

This was not the Indian team. The concerned authorities had announced it even before the tournament started.

Pakistanis cant get an Indian team to visit pakistan. So they get hold of a rag tag group of players from India and declare them as the Indian team.

 

[Itachi]

I don't especially those who don't deserve respect.

Depends on perspective. There are many prophets which people worship but from a different angle, they have their dark sides too and vice versa.

 

[Itachi]

Indians are being sour here. I watched the entire match, the Indian team was good. Once they lost, the posters are in denial that this is not the Indian team

Hey Indians - Your team and hence your country LOST. Just admit it and move on. Don't create drama by disowning your own kind. LOL.

On the topic - Great win by the Pakistan team. Indian players were good too. Hope we send them off by providing them with some more of our fantastic tea

People should read threads before writing.

Indian authorities stated it wasn't Indian team as soon as it was coming to the notice when this fake competition began.

 

[IMMY69]

Me? Lol.

Read the thread.

No Indian team was sent.

Some players went on their own and Pakistan declared this rag tag bunch as Indian team.

I agree with you and this is precisely why India cannot be rated as number one in cricket.
Surely you have to agree?