[VIDEO] "Get this news [of problems in Imran Khan's marriage] to Reham Khan & Jemima" : Najam Sethi

[MenInG]

[VIDEO] "Get this news [of problems in Imran Khan's marriage] to Reham Khan & Jemima" : Najam Sethi

When you thought that Pakistan politics could not reach a new low... The PML-N's shameful record of fame has a new entry....


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[Lonewarrior]

so what mr najam sethi ? Its his personal life .. cant understand whats the problem with these old hags.

 

[Savak]

Jemima and Imran have a very good relationship still and she would be the last person to wish him ill.

Reham is just a cheap _______. Very pathetic comment by Sethi, maybe he should then comment on Shahbaz Sharifs personal life as well then

 

[Syed1]

What you expect from the poodle of corrupt politicians. This lifafa journalist is probably rueing the fact that he isn't getting handouts anymore and is left to work at some unknown channel like 24. It was lovely seeing him cry after being shunned from the PSL.

 

[saeed5646]

We should not be surprised about this .this guy is shameless. His ego cost us millions against india.

 

[Slog]

This guy is a shame to his profession

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

Tehreer bech kar to kabhi baat bech kar
Paaatay hen rizk soorat e halaat bech kar

 

[RickyG]

That is pretty disgusting. Najam Sethi is a shameful human being and a sorry excuse for a journalist. I have more respect for people and their personal lives when I talk to my closest friends than he does on live television.

 

[Suleiman]

Only in that part of the world is it socially acceptable to stay in a relationship you’re not happy with.

It’s better to split on mutual terms and still have friendly relations than stay together when you’re not happy in each other’s presence. Only those who think they can’t do better will do the latter or try to make it work for their kids, depends on who you value more.

 

[PakLFC]

IK's marriage is his business not this baldy has been's

 

[Syed1]

Funny you won't find people like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] here who go to any lengths defending Najam Sethi.





I repeat I loved seeing this guy cry when he was snubbed from PSL. I'll go and rewatch it.

 

[MenInG]

The level of filth that some here are capable of spewing is genuinely stunning.

 

[pakistan cricket fan]

Funny you won't find people like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] here who go to any lengths defending Najam Sethi.





I repeat I loved seeing this guy cry when he was snubbed from PSL. I'll go and rewatch it.

Agree well done Ahsan Mani

 

[Mamoon]

Now that I have been tagged in this thread, I will speak from my heart and people can say what they want.

Multiple marriages, multiple divorces, marrying women with adult children and even marrying white women is against the cultural norms and values of our Pakistani society. If we don't uphold these norms, we will be criticised and discussed even if it is our personal life. It is inevitable.

Furthermore, yes it is allowed in Islam, but we have certain conventions in our culture that are independent from our religion. For example, marrying 4 women is allowed in Islam and its common in the Gulf, but it is frowned upon in Pakistani society.

People always criticise Reham for the divorce and will inevitably end up blaming Bushra bibi (if God forbid they part ways in the future) as well simply because they are enslaved by their devotion to Imran, but failed marriages are never 100% on one partner's head.

After returning from Libya, Reham's family lived three houses away from mine in Peshawar, and my family is well-acquainted with her family. She was never known for her character in her social circle, and that is why people were critical of Imran at the time when he married her. However, as usual, the concerns of these people were discarded because "it is his personal life and he can do what he wants", but we saw the result.

Imran's track-record of marriages is not something that any Pakistani man would wish on his son, father, brother or any man that he cares about. First he married a white woman which is unconventional in our society. He then proceeded to marry two women with grown up kids, which again, is despised in our society. No regular Pakistani people with a shred of respect for their cultural values would want their son to marry women with adult children.

As far as Jemima is concerned, it was again down to Imran's lack of judgement that he would later show with Reham. No doubt a fine woman and that is reflected even today, but Imran should have known that an aristocratic white British woman would never be able to adjust to our Pakistani society in spite of having an anglophilic husband, and by 1995, Imran knew that his long-term future was in Pakistan.

It is very easy for people to say that our culture is wrong and backward, and we should not take about personal lives of other people, but we don't live in a utopian world. These things have repercussions in Pakistani society, and when you pull the type of stunts that Imran has when it comes to his personal life, you are simply exposing yourself to public scrutiny.

People can criticise my post as much as they want and they can also criticise Sethi for being shameless and whatever, but they should also appreciate the fact that Imran has left no stone unturned to completely undermine the social and cultural norms of Pakistan when it comes to his married life.

 

[rockyboy2018]

Well, Pakistan has no direction no future so Pakistanis have a lot of free time so it is normal for a Pakistani man to act like an auntie who pokes her nose into a personal life of someone else. In Pakistan, if you do not pray 5 times a day every shop keeper or chowkidar or etc becomes your personal God and passes on fatwas about your religious beliefs.

Pakistani society is a messed up society which has go nothing to do with a beautiful religion like Islam even though an average Pakistani pretends to be a bastion of Islam.

 

[slipcatch]

Now that I have been tagged in this thread, I will speak from my heart and people can say what they want.

Multiple marriages, multiple divorces, marrying women with adult children and even marrying white women is against the cultural norms and values of our Pakistani society. If we don't uphold these norms, we will be criticised and discussed even if it is our personal life. It is inevitable.

Furthermore, yes it is allowed in Islam, but we have certain conventions in our culture that are independent from our religion. For example, marrying 4 women is allowed in Islam and its common in the Gulf, but it is frowned upon in Pakistani society.

People always criticise Reham for the divorce and will inevitably end up blaming Bushra bibi (if God forbid they part ways in the future) as well simply because they are enslaved by their devotion to Imran, but failed marriages are never 100% on one partner's head.

After returning from Libya, Reham's family lived three houses away from mine in Peshawar, and my family is well-acquainted with her family. She was never known for her character in her social circle, and that is why people were critical of Imran at the time when he married her. However, as usual, the concerns of these people were discarded because "it is his personal life and he can do what he wants", but we saw the result.

Imran's track-record of marriages is not something that any Pakistani man would wish on his son, father, brother or any man that he cares about. First he married a white woman which is unconventional in our society. He then proceeded to marry two women with grown up kids, which again, is despised in our society. No regular Pakistani people with a shred of respect for their cultural values would want their son to marry women with adult children.

As far as Jemima is concerned, it was again down to Imran's lack of judgement that he would later show with Reham. No doubt a fine woman and that is reflected even today, but Imran should have known that an aristocratic white British woman would never be able to adjust to our Pakistani society in spite of having an anglophilic husband, and by 1995, Imran knew that his long-term future was in Pakistan.

It is very easy for people to say that our culture is wrong and backward, and we should not take about personal lives of other people, but we don't live in a utopian world. These things have repercussions in Pakistani society, and when you pull the type of stunts that Imran has when it comes to his personal life, you are simply exposing yourself to public scrutiny.

People can criticise my post as much as they want and they can also criticise Sethi for being shameless and whatever, but they should also appreciate the fact that Imran has left no stone unturned to completely undermine the social and cultural norms of Pakistan when it comes to his married life.

Finding you struggle to criticize IK because you have to and not trying to come off of as a gali ki aunty is quite sad.

 

[Muhammad10]

Nothing like a bit of good old gossip about one's personal life. Thanks to Sethi saab, the esteemed intellectual.

 

[Halaribo]

Now that I have been tagged in this thread, I will speak from my heart and people can say what they want.

Multiple marriages, multiple divorces, marrying women with adult children and even marrying white women is against the cultural norms and values of our Pakistani society. If we don't uphold these norms, we will be criticised and discussed even if it is our personal life. It is inevitable.

Furthermore, yes it is allowed in Islam, but we have certain conventions in our culture that are independent from our religion. For example, marrying 4 women is allowed in Islam and its common in the Gulf, but it is frowned upon in Pakistani society.

People always criticise Reham for the divorce and will inevitably end up blaming Bushra bibi (if God forbid they part ways in the future) as well simply because they are enslaved by their devotion to Imran, but failed marriages are never 100% on one partner's head.

After returning from Libya, Reham's family lived three houses away from mine in Peshawar, and my family is well-acquainted with her family. She was never known for her character in her social circle, and that is why people were critical of Imran at the time when he married her. However, as usual, the concerns of these people were discarded because "it is his personal life and he can do what he wants", but we saw the result.

Imran's track-record of marriages is not something that any Pakistani man would wish on his son, father, brother or any man that he cares about. First he married a white woman which is unconventional in our society. He then proceeded to marry two women with grown up kids, which again, is despised in our society. No regular Pakistani people with a shred of respect for their cultural values would want their son to marry women with adult children.

As far as Jemima is concerned, it was again down to Imran's lack of judgement that he would later show with Reham. No doubt a fine woman and that is reflected even today, but Imran should have known that an aristocratic white British woman would never be able to adjust to our Pakistani society in spite of having an anglophilic husband, and by 1995, Imran knew that his long-term future was in Pakistan.

It is very easy for people to say that our culture is wrong and backward, and we should not take about personal lives of other people, but we don't live in a utopian world. These things have repercussions in Pakistani society, and when you pull the type of stunts that Imran has when it comes to his personal life, you are simply exposing yourself to public scrutiny.

People can criticise my post as much as they want and they can also criticise Sethi for being shameless and whatever, but they should also appreciate the fact that Imran has left no stone unturned to completely undermine the social and cultural norms of Pakistan when it comes to his married life.

Amazing. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

 

[humzy]

Now that I have been tagged in this thread, I will speak from my heart and people can say what they want.

Multiple marriages, multiple divorces, marrying women with adult children and even marrying white women is against the cultural norms and values of our Pakistani society. If we don't uphold these norms, we will be criticised and discussed even if it is our personal life. It is inevitable.

Funny, those
Furthermore, yes it is allowed in Islam, but we have certain conventions in our culture that are independent from our religion. For example, marrying 4 women is allowed in Islam and its common in the Gulf, but it is frowned upon in Pakistani society.

People always criticise Reham for the divorce and will inevitably end up blaming Bushra bibi (if God forbid they part ways in the future) as well simply because they are enslaved by their devotion to Imran, but failed marriages are never 100% on one partner's head.

After returning from Libya, Reham's family lived three houses away from mine in Peshawar, and my family is well-acquainted with her family. She was never known for her character in her social circle, and that is why people were critical of Imran at the time when he married her. However, as usual, the concerns of these people were discarded because "it is his personal life and he can do what he wants", but we saw the result.

Imran's track-record of marriages is not something that any Pakistani man would wish on his son, father, brother or any man that he cares about. First he married a white woman which is unconventional in our society. He then proceeded to marry two women with grown up kids, which again, is despised in our society. No regular Pakistani people with a shred of respect for their cultural values would want their son to marry women with adult children.

As far as Jemima is concerned, it was again down to Imran's lack of judgement that he would later show with Reham. No doubt a fine woman and that is reflected even today, but Imran should have known that an aristocratic white British woman would never be able to adjust to our Pakistani society in spite of having an anglophilic husband, and by 1995, Imran knew that his long-term future was in Pakistan.

It is very easy for people to say that our culture is wrong and backward, and we should not take about personal lives of other people, but we don't live in a utopian world. These things have repercussions in Pakistani society, and when you pull the type of stunts that Imran has when it comes to his personal life, you are simply exposing yourself to public scrutiny.

People can criticise my post as much as they want and they can also criticise Sethi for being shameless and whatever, but they should also appreciate the fact that Imran has left no stone unturned to completely undermine the social and cultural norms of Pakistan when it comes to his married life.

Funny, those are the reasons I am such a big fan, his ability to do what he wants when he wants without a care for customs or culture.

 

[Salma_T]

Pakistanis are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to their personal lives....they want to impose their values on everyone. IK has married a brit of Jewish heritage, a divorced mothers with grown up kids twice. He owns it and does what he wants we have scandals re other leaders and their numerous marriages but as long as they are young virgins it is good but God forbid they are divorced and have grown up kids ( do women not have a right to remarry if they have kids older than a few years old)

 

[King-Misbah]

Pakistanis are the biggest hypocrites when it comes to their personal lives....they want to impose their values on everyone. IK has married a brit of Jewish heritage, a divorced mothers with grown up kids twice. He owns it and does what he wants we have scandals re other leaders and their numerous marriages but as long as they are young virgins it is good but God forbid they are divorced and have grown up kids ( do women not have a right to remarry if they have kids older than a few years old)

Even if he married a young Pakistani woman; some people would have had an issue They are only trying to defame Imran because they benefit from the corrupt system. Najam Sethi has always been thrash.

 

[MenInG]

Nothing like a bit of good old gossip about one's personal life. Thanks to Sethi saab, the esteemed intellectual.

And lovely to see some of our 'esteemed' members supporting that.

 

[Mamoon]

Funny, those are the reasons I am such a big fan, his ability to do what he wants when he wants without a care for customs or culture.

Actually, everyone does to an extent and Imran is no different. He had to hide his daughter in London and not publicly acknowledge ownership because it would have been the end of his political career in Pakistan. Our society has zero tolerance for illegitimate children.

Nevertheless, you are a fan of these virtues because if I am not wrong, you were born and brought up in Australia - you obviously have different cultural and social values than people who were born and brought up in Pakistan. I have no hesitation in admitting that if my son were to marry a white man, or a women with adult children, I will not be happy about it.

I will try everything In can to talk to him out of it. I will obviously not try to force him against his will, but I will sure try very hard to change his mind. It is not that I wouldn't want to see him happy, but because of how our society views these things. In Pakistan, you cannot always do what you want - the concept of personal life here is not what it is in the West.

I am certain that Pakistani based PPers will have similar sentiments, but that wouldn't stop them from lying in this thread to blend in and not come across as "backward" and "narrow-minded".

 

[Mamoon]

Finding you struggle to criticize IK because you have to and not trying to come off of as a gali ki aunty is quite sad.

Amazing. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

You can call me a desi aunty and a hypocrite if you want to, but it will not change the culture and tradition of Pakistan and the fact that if you go against these norms, people will criticise you. You cannot do anything about it.

You are free to go against these conventions, but you should be prepared to be scrutinised all your life.

 

[King-Misbah]

Actually, everyone does to an extent and Imran is no different. He had to hide his daughter in London and not publicly acknowledge ownership because it would have been the end of his political career in Pakistan. Our society has zero tolerance for illegitimate children.

Nevertheless, you are a fan of these virtues because if I am not wrong, you were born and brought up in Australia - you obviously have different cultural and social values than people who were born and brought up in Pakistan. I have no hesitation in admitting that if my son were to marry a white man, or a women with adult children, I will not be happy about it.

I will try everything In can to talk to him out of it. I will obviously not try to force him against his will, but I will sure try very hard to change his mind. It is not that I wouldn't want to see him happy, but because of how our society views these things. In Pakistan, you cannot always do what you want - the concept of personal life here is not what it is in the West.

I am certain that Pakistani based PPers will have similar sentiments, but that wouldn't stop them from lying in this thread to blend in and not come across as "backward" and "narrow-minded".

You need to grow up; your hate for Imran Khan has really effected you personally. The people of Imran Khan have no issues with his personal life hence they voted him in.

Ps: Could you and your friend Sethi also shed light on Mariam Farrari, Shabaz stealing other poeples wives or marrying divorced women, bubbly Sharifs secret wifes and flirty Nawaz with Kim Baker. Not that I care about these issues but you guys should also consider Pakistani norms in these cases too Mamoon, please write us an essay on these separate facts; I shall eagerly await

 

[Major]

When you thought that Pakistan politics could not reach a new low... The PML-N's shameful record of fame has a new entry....

lol i find it funny how you expect this to be a new low.

You guys should go watch how Sheikh Rasheed use to say derogatory remarks about Benazir infront of the whole assembly.

 

[Junaid_ahmed]

Actually, everyone does to an extent and Imran is no different. He had to hide his daughter in London and not publicly acknowledge ownership because it would have been the end of his political career in Pakistan. Our society has zero tolerance for illegitimate children.

Nevertheless, you are a fan of these virtues because if I am not wrong, you were born and brought up in Australia - you obviously have different cultural and social values than people who were born and brought up in Pakistan. I have no hesitation in admitting that if my son were to marry a white man, or a women with adult children, I will not be happy about it.

I will try everything In can to talk to him out of it. I will obviously not try to force him against his will, but I will sure try very hard to change his mind. It is not that I wouldn't want to see him happy, but because of how our society views these things. In Pakistan, you cannot always do what you want - the concept of personal life here is not what it is in the West.

I am certain that Pakistani based PPers will have similar sentiments, but that wouldn't stop them from lying in this thread to blend in and not come across as "backward" and "narrow-minded".

I suggest you should read something about Awais Muzaffar aka tappi & for Pakistani society regarding hidden wives & illegitimate children you are again wrong. This double standard slave society has different parameters for feudals & for common man.

 

[Salma_T]

His hidden daughter that everyone knows about! It is well documented he has a daughter and the fact his wife refers to her as a step daughter. I am born and raised in the UK so don't have these stupid hang ups that "supposedly" people in pakistan do. I also think many in Pakistan don't either care if the women is white or black or married and divorced I think some are putting their own predejuices and applying it across the nation

 

[Mamoon]

I suggest you should read something about Awais Muzaffar aka tappi & for Pakistani society regarding hidden wives & illegitimate children you are again wrong. This double standard slave society has different parameters for feudals & for common man.

You need to understand what zero tolerance means, or at least what it means in this context.

A society is not free of a particular practice because it has zero tolerance towards it. Zero tolerance means that by and large, the majority of the people do not approve of that particular behaviour.

For example, our society has no tolerance for murder and rape, but does that mean that these vile crimes are not committed? Of course not, but that is a law and order issue and has nothing to do with the moral compass of the public.

The rich and the powerful can get away with anything in this country. It is indeed true that feudal lords have multiple wives and illegitimate children, but it is not something that is considered appropriate by our society.

It is obviously different in the West where it is not uncommon for a newly wed couple to already have children out of wedlock. However, it is not something that is acceptable in our culture.

 

[Muhammad10]

Actually, everyone does to an extent and Imran is no different. He had to hide his daughter in London and not publicly acknowledge ownership because it would have been the end of his political career in Pakistan. Our society has zero tolerance for illegitimate children.

Nevertheless, you are a fan of these virtues because if I am not wrong, you were born and brought up in Australia - you obviously have different cultural and social values than people who were born and brought up in Pakistan. I have no hesitation in admitting that if my son were to marry a white man, or a women with adult children, I will not be happy about it.

I will try everything In can to talk to him out of it. I will obviously not try to force him against his will, but I will sure try very hard to change his mind. It is not that I wouldn't want to see him happy, but because of how our society views these things. In Pakistan, you cannot always do what you want - the concept of personal life here is not what it is in the West.

I am certain that Pakistani based PPers will have similar sentiments, but that wouldn't stop them from lying in this thread to blend in and not come across as "backward" and "narrow-minded".

Haha, no arguments there.

 

[Mamoon]

His hidden daughter that everyone knows about! It is well documented he has a daughter and the fact his wife refers to her as a step daughter. I am born and raised in the UK so don't have these stupid hang ups that "supposedly" people in pakistan do. I also think many in Pakistan don't either care if the women is white or black or married and divorced I think some are putting their own predejuices and applying it across the nation

Your views in this thread clearly reflect that you were born and raised outside Pakistan and hence are not completely familiar with the cultural norms of our society. Of course there are exceptions, but I can guarantee you that if you conduct a research experiment and ask 100 families in Pakistan if they would be okay with their son marrying a white woman or marrying a women with adult children, you will find that the majority will not approve it.

Again, it is not a question of right or wrong or what Islam says; it is simply a question of the norms and practices of the Pakistani society.

This forum is not a good representative of our culture due to two main reasons: (a) there are a lot of overseas Pakistanis here who are not well-versed with the mentality of our people and (b) this forum is infiltrated with PTI supporters who have to wear a mask and cannot be honest about how marrying white women or marrying women with grown up kids is viewed in our society.

 

[Mamoon]

Haha, no arguments there.

Lol, inconvenient typo. Nevertheless, it holds true for both white men and women, and of course men of any colour for that matter.

 

[Muhammad10]

You can call me a desi aunty and a hypocrite if you want to, but it will not change the culture and tradition of Pakistan and the fact that if you go against these norms, people will criticise you. You cannot do anything about it.

You are free to go against these conventions, but you should be prepared to be scrutinised all your life.

So you don't think there is anything immoral about Sethi gossiping about people's marriages on TV like a shameless imbecile? Please share your personal opinion in this regard. If Bilawal is married tomorrow and Sethi says something similarly idiotic about his personal life on TV, it will be fine?

 

[Muhammad10]

If Pakistanis as a whole were as obsessed with bashing Imran's personal life as certain posters, he would surely not be the PM.

 

[Mamoon]

You need to grow up; your hate for Imran Khan has really effected you personally. The people of Imran Khan have no issues with his personal life hence they voted him in.

Ps: Could you and your friend Sethi also shed light on Mariam Farrari, Shabaz stealing other poeples wives or marrying divorced women, bubbly Sharifs secret wifes and flirty Nawaz with Kim Baker. Not that I care about these issues but you guys should also consider Pakistani norms in these cases too Mamoon, please write us an essay on these separate facts; I shall eagerly await

The people of Imran Khan have no issues with anything, and that is why PTI has become a cult. People are enslaved by their devotion to Imran to an extent where they would defend him even if he kills innocent people in daylight.

I apologise for this extreme example, but the point that I am attempting to make here is that the followers of Imran Khan do not represent right or wrong, since in their minds, whether something is right or wrong entirely depends on how Imran Khan feels about it.

I do not have to write an essay on the personal lives of other politicians because I am not interacting with their supporters here. Shehbaz Sharif is a renowned wife stealer and it is obviously not something that is approved in our society. In fact, it is much worse than what Imran has done.

It is also important to note that I do agree that the personal lives of politicians should not impact their political careers. However, the point that I am trying to make here is that if you go against the cultural norms and social values of Pakistan, you personal life will be scrutinised and you will be condemned. It is a choice that you make and you have to live with it. It does not matter if you are Imran Khan, Shehbaz Sharif or a common man.

 

[Mamoon]

So you don't think there is anything immoral about Sethi gossiping about people's marriages on TV like a shameless imbecile? Please share your personal opinion in this regard. If Bilawal is married tomorrow and Sethi says something similarly idiotic about his personal life on TV, it will be fine?

I think focusing on Sethi is not the issue here. if not Sethi, someone else will talk about his personal life. If not someone of repute, some common will.

The bottom-line is that if you marry a white woman as well as women with adult children, your personal life will be scrutinised in this country.

 

[Mamoon]

If Pakistanis as a whole were as obsessed with bashing Imran's personal life as certain posters, he would surely not be the PM.

I voted twice for PTI and I have no hesitation in admitting that his personal life is nothing to be proud of and it is nothing that I would wish for my son. Similarly, as I said to another poster, if you do a survey of the country, you will find that the majority of the Pakistani public will not be happy about their son marrying a white woman or women with grown up children.

However, this does not necessarily have to impact his political career.

 

[Muhammad10]

I think focusing on Sethi is not the issue here. if not Sethi, someone else will talk about his personal life. If not someone of repute, some common will.

The bottom-line is that if you marry a white woman as well as women with adult children, your personal life will be scrutinised in this country.

This thread is about what Sethi has said regarding Imran's current marriage, so the constant mentioning of how bad Imran was for marrying an evil white person and focusing on his past relationships only serves to deflect criticism of Sethi's cheap behaviour.

 

[Salma_T]

Your views in this thread clearly reflect that you were born and raised outside Pakistan and hence are not completely familiar with the cultural norms of our society. Of course there are exceptions, but I can guarantee you that if you conduct a research experiment and ask 100 families in Pakistan if they would be okay with their son marrying a white woman or marrying a women with adult children, you will find that the majority will not approve it.

Again, it is not a question of right or wrong or what Islam says; it is simply a question of the norms and practices of the Pakistani society.

This forum is not a good representative of our culture due to two main reasons: (a) there are a lot of overseas Pakistanis here who are not well-versed with the mentality of our people and (b) this forum is infiltrated with PTI supporters who have to wear a mask and cannot be honest about how marrying white women or marrying women with grown up kids is viewed in our society.

Imran khan done all of the above and is the PM of Pakistan. If the society thought it was so bad and unacceptable he would never have been elected.
Family is pretty conservative but have got over the white partner not sure about marrying women with adult kids as divorced women have been accepted without kids

 

[Bewal Express]

What really grates Nooras is that all these personal attacks have never had any impact on IK and they never will.

 

[Sher Khan]

The truth is Imran Khan's personal life, is not something a typical person in Pakistan would approve of. His hard work and dedication to achieving goals is highly appreciable and a good example for Pakistani youth. But his personal life isn't.

A Pakistani teenager should not strive to Marry multiple times and have kids out of wedlock. It's not a part of our culture.

 

[Bewal Express]

Btw I look forward to Sethi's programme to explain Maryams miracle baby after 4 months.

 

[Afhan Ali]

Actually, everyone does to an extent and Imran is no different. He had to hide his daughter in London and not publicly acknowledge ownership because it would have been the end of his political career in Pakistan. Our society has zero tolerance for illegitimate children.

Nevertheless, you are a fan of these virtues because if I am not wrong, you were born and brought up in Australia - you obviously have different cultural and social values than people who were born and brought up in Pakistan. I have no hesitation in admitting that if my son were to marry a white man, or a women with adult children, I will not be happy about it.

I will try everything I can to talk to him out of it. I will obviously not try to force him against his will, but I will sure try very hard to change his mind. It is not that I wouldn't want to see him happy, but because of how our society views these things. In Pakistan, you cannot always do what you want - the concept of personal life here is not what it is in the West.

I am certain that Pakistani based PPers will have similar sentiments, but that wouldn't stop them from lying in this thread to blend in and not come across as "backward" and "narrow-minded".

Mamoon bhai I want to discuss my personal problem and society with you but how should I?

 

[King-Misbah]

Btw I look forward to Sethi's programme to explain Maryams miracle baby after 4 months.

May be [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] can expand on this miracle. Afterall, he is a doctor And he can also explain whether it is accepted in the Pakistani society

 

[Bewal Express]

May be [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] can expand on this miracle. Afterall, he is a doctor And he can also explain whether it is accepted in the Pakistani society

He can't accept that the Nooras attacked him personally and it's had no impact. Pro that never liked him have lapped it up and people that like him, couldn't care less. As far as Maryam concerned, that is halal because Capt Safdar is allowed to do double shifts​ according to Rana the Qatil.

 

[slipcatch]

You can call me a desi aunty and a hypocrite if you want to, but it will not change the culture and tradition of Pakistan and the fact that if you go against these norms, people will criticise you. You cannot do anything about it.

You are free to go against these conventions, but you should be prepared to be scrutinised all your life.

Your criticism has no validity.

All you do is repeat history to make your point while ignoring present, similar to most gali ki aunties.

You aren't going against the norm, you are trying to appear smarter and different by going against the norm while ignoring the reality and what needed to change.

Always hoping for the worse, always trying to find the worse, similar to a teenage girl who is always expecting the worse at any party.

 

[Mamoon]

Your criticism has no validity.

All you do is repeat history to make your point while ignoring present, similar to most gali ki aunties.

You aren't going against the norm, you are trying to appear smarter and different by going against the norm while ignoring the reality and what needed to change.

Always hoping for the worse, always trying to find the worse, similar to a teenage girl who is always expecting the worse at any party.

Your sorry, juvenile and rather pathetic attempts to engage me at a personal level are futile.

It is a fact that Imran’s personal life is not something that any orthodox (which means majority) Pakistani families will condone.

Marrying white women as well as women with adult children is not something that the masses approve, and our people will discuss the personal life of any person who takes that route.

Again, it is not about right or wrong, it is simply how our society is.

 

[King-Misbah]

Your sorry, juvenile and rather pathetic attempts to engage me at a personal level are futile.

It is a fact that Imran’s personal life is not something that any orthodox (which means majority) Pakistani families will condone.

Marrying white women as well as women with adult children is not something that the masses approve, and our people will discuss the personal life of any person who takes that route.

Again, it is not about right or wrong, it is simply how our society is.

The same masses voted him in; this means they don't care about his personal life or have accepted it. Time to jog on and give us some details about having a baby after 4 months in the Pakistani society?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Your sorry, juvenile and rather pathetic attempts to engage me at a personal level are futile.

It is a fact that Imran’s personal life is not something that any orthodox (which means majority) Pakistani families will condone.

Marrying white women as well as women with adult children is not something that the masses approve, and our people will discuss the personal life of any person who takes that route.

Again, it is not about right or wrong, it is simply how our society is.

Its probably because you live in a very conservative area or are around backward thinking people. There is no racism in Islam so those who have issues with people marrying a different race are going against a very important principle in Islam, one which is so important it was part of the final speech of the Prophet(pbuh). Jemima is a very popular figure with British Pakistanis and many in Pakistan too.

It's a great thing Imran Khan does not care for backward cultural norms in Pakistan, many of which came from other cultures such as Hinduism.

As for Sethi this is truly shameful and pathetic. He was almost happy/wishing someones marriage fails. What the clown doesn't understand is IK sacrificed his whole family life in order to help the people of his country. One man is a giant figure and the other a bitter bald old man with no real future left.

 

[Mamoon]

Its probably because you live in a very conservative area or are around backward thinking people. There is no racism in Islam so those who have issues with people marrying a different race are going against a very important principle in Islam, one which is so important it was part of the final speech of the Prophet(pbuh). Jemima is a very popular figure with British Pakistanis and many in Pakistan too.

It's a great thing Imran Khan does not care for backward cultural norms in Pakistan, many of which came from other cultures such as Hinduism.

As for Sethi this is truly shameful and pathetic. He was almost happy/wishing someones marriage fails. What the clown doesn't understand is IK sacrificed his whole family life in order to help the people of his country. One man is a giant figure and the other a bitter bald old man with no real future left.

It is not about where I live. I can live in the most conservative area or the most liberal one. Regardless of whether you go to Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar, Islamabad, Multan etc., the majority of the people do not approve the concept of marrying white women or women with adult children.

As I have already explained, it has nothing to do with Islam. There are certain cultural values and social norms of the Pakistani society that are independent of Islamic teachings.

You are of course free to go against these so-called backward norms if you wish, but then you will need to be prepared for the fact that your personal life will be discussed and criticized.

Again, it is not about right or wrong. It is about how our society is.

 

[Mamoon]

The same masses voted him in; this means they don't care about his personal life or have accepted it. Time to jog on and give us some details about having a baby after 4 months in the Pakistani society?

As I have stated already in one of my previous posts, your married life is not going to have a big impact on your political career.

For example, I personally won’t wish my son to have a personal life like Imran’s, but I still voted for him twice.

People voted for Imran because they believe in his political manifesto and think that he can bring change in Pakistan.

The fact that he is a tried and tested failure when it comes to personal relationships is not a big enough reason for people to not vote for him.

The point is not to undermine his political career because of his marriages; the point is that his personal life is against the norms of Pakistani society and hence, it will be discussed and criticized just like Maryam’s personal life.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It is not about where I live. I can live in the most conservative area or the most liberal one. Regardless of whether you go to Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar, Islamabad, Multan etc., the majority of the people do not approve the concept of marrying white women or women with adult children.

As I have already explained, it has nothing to do with Islam. There are certain cultural values and social norms of the Pakistani society that are independent of Islamic teachings.

You are of course free to go against these so-called backward norms if you wish, but then you will need to be prepared for the fact that your personal life will be discussed and criticized.

Again, it is not about right or wrong. It is about how our society is.

Just like IK I dont care what people think of me. The same society elected him as leader and the same society welcomed Jemima in Pakistan. It was the corrupt fools who targetted her not the ordinary people as a whole.

To talk about someone personal life is pretty low. Politicians should be criticised regarding their policies and performance not who they marry.

Sethi is bitter like many of the PLMN and PPP supporters now PTI is in power. Nothing more to this story.

 

[Savak]

I wonder if IK regrets not having an arranged marriage in late 20's to early 30's, Pakistani women for the most part especially through the arranged marriage route tend to be most compromising and are willing to tolerate certain frustrations with their husbands for the overall greater good of the family and kids.

In my 30's now, my beliefs have changed and now i accept the fact that the most important quality a guy needs to double check on his potential spouse is home making abilities and desire to put the family, domestic life above everything else.

 

[Mamoon]

Just like IK I dont care what people think of me. The same society elected him as leader and the same society welcomed Jemima in Pakistan. It was the corrupt fools who targetted her not the ordinary people as a whole.

To talk about someone personal life is pretty low. Politicians should be criticised regarding their policies and performance not who they marry.

Sethi is bitter like many of the PLMN and PPP supporters now PTI is in power. Nothing more to this story.

If not Sethi, someone else will. I am sure Imran has dealt with this enough in his life and he personally doesn’t care.

PTI supporters need to grow a thicker skin and kick up a fuss every time someone makes fun of his personal life. It is unavoidable.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If not Sethi, someone else will. I am sure Imran has dealt with this enough in his life and he personally doesn’t care.

PTI supporters need to grow a thicker skin and kick up a fuss every time someone makes fun of his personal life. It is unavoidable.

Im sure he has.

You could see the hate in his eyes. It wasn't a bit of amusement.

We also have Modi the PM of India. There are views he is gay and thus his wife is never with him but it would be silly of any opposition or critic to make such jokes.

 

[Muhammad10]

If not Sethi, someone else will. I am sure Imran has dealt with this enough in his life and he personally doesn’t care.

PTI supporters need to grow a thicker skin and kick up a fuss every time someone makes fun of his personal life. It is unavoidable.

If Sethi behaves like a gossipping auntie on TV, he needs to be prepared for the fact that the nonsense he spews will be discussed and criticised.

 

[slipcatch]

Your sorry, juvenile and rather pathetic attempts to engage me at a personal level are futile.

It is a fact that Imran’s personal life is not something that any orthodox (which means majority) Pakistani families will condone.

Marrying white women as well as women with adult children is not something that the masses approve, and our people will discuss the personal life of any person who takes that route.

Again, it is not about right or wrong, it is simply how our society is.

Personal?

Calling you out for sounding like a teenage girl or a gali ki aunty who is always pessimist and talking about the worse things to happen isn't personal.

So calm down with your personal feeling and accusation. Just told you this is what you sound like most of the time when you make stupid comments.

Remember I haven't said anything about your appearance, that would be engaging you at personal level.

Beside Noora, that after when Imran Khan decided to join politics, no one cared much about him getting marry to a white jewish girl other than it's being a news about the most known celebrity of Pakistan, probably British media covered it with more enthusiasm than Pakistani media.

Rest, like I have said earlier, it is painful to watch you criticize Imran Khan for the sake of the criticism while trying hard not to appear as gali ki aunty who only talk about other people personal life.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Sita White (denied his illegitimate child with her)
Jemima Goldsmith (married a white woman)
Reham Khan (married a woman who none liked)
Bushra Bibi (his spiritual mentor and mother of grown-up kids)

Imran will never be able to avoid these personal attacks because he just keeps making the same mistake again and again.

 

[King-Misbah]

As I have stated already in one of my previous posts, your married life is not going to have a big impact on your political career.

For example, I personally won’t wish my son to have a personal life like Imran’s, but I still voted for him twice.

People voted for Imran because they believe in his political manifesto and think that he can bring change in Pakistan.

The fact that he is a tried and tested failure when it comes to personal relationships is not a big enough reason for people to not vote for him.

The point is not to undermine his political career because of his marriages; the point is that his personal life is against the norms of Pakistani society and hence, it will be discussed and criticized just like Maryam’s personal life.

It is very simple to understand. If it is against the norms then people would not endorse him as his private life would hamper his political aspirations. However, this was not the case. Who said its against the norms? My own grandad was married twice I know people who got divorced, have two wives etc. It doesnt mean anything in a macho Pakistani society. Stop making it a big deal due to your own hate; you sound confused.

 

[Savak]

Sita White (denied his illegitimate child with her)
Jemima Goldsmith (married a white woman)
Reham Khan (married a woman who none liked)
Bushra Bibi (his spiritual mentor and mother of grown-up kids)

Imran will never be able to avoid these personal attacks because he just keeps making the same mistake again and again.

TBH he is so used to living alone now, he doesn't need companionship, i believe he married his last two wives because of the need to have a first lady. Bushra he married because he consults her on all major decisions as well.

 

[Mamoon]

It is very simple to understand. If it is against the norms then people would not endorse him as his private life would hamper his political aspirations. However, this was not the case. Who said its against the norms? My own grandad was married twice I know people who got divorced, have two wives etc. It doesnt mean anything in a macho Pakistani society. Stop making it a big deal due to your own hate; you sound confused.

I also have a family member who has been divorced twice. Your grandfather and my family member are exceptions in our society. Unlike the West, divorce and separation are not very common in Pakistan of the cultural taboo. Similarly, marrying women with adult children is an even bigger taboo than divorce.

There is no such thing as a macho Pakistani society. It is an undeniable fact that the majority of people in Pakistan do not approve of the type of personal life that Imran has had. No regular family, which means the majority, will want their son to marry a woman who has an 18 year old son from her previous marriage or to marry a whites woman or worse, to have a child out of wedlock.

It is a big deal in Pakistani culture and I see nothing but denial by people who are enslaved by their loyalty to Imran and consider it their sworn duty to defend and justify everything.

 

[Salma_T]

I wonder if IK regrets not having an arranged marriage in late 20's to early 30's, Pakistani women for the most part especially through the arranged marriage route tend to be most compromising and are willing to tolerate certain frustrations with their husbands for the overall greater good of the family and kids.

In my 30's now, my beliefs have changed and now i accept the fact that the most important quality a guy needs to double check on his potential spouse is home making abilities and desire to put the family, domestic life above everything else.

So a woman who has now aspirations for herself and should just be at the whim of her husband and children!

 

[Salma_T]

I also have a family member who has been divorced twice. Your grandfather and my family member are exceptions in our society. Unlike the West, divorce and separation are not very common in Pakistan of the cultural taboo. Similarly, marrying women with adult children is an even bigger taboo than divorce.

There is no such thing as a macho Pakistani society. It is an undeniable fact that the majority of people in Pakistan do not approve of the type of personal life that Imran has had. No regular family, which means the majority, will want their son to marry a woman who has an 18 year old son from her previous marriage or to marry a whites woman or worse, to have a child out of wedlock.

It is a big deal in Pakistani culture and I see nothing but denial by people who are enslaved by their loyalty to Imran and consider it their sworn duty to defend and justify everything.

Pakistani society is hypocritical to the core.....And so glad that I don't leave by their norms as they are actually against the Islamic teachings.

 

[Savak]

So a woman who has now aspirations for herself and should just be at the whim of her husband and children!

I am not against aspirations and goals, but i have seen terrifying examples where the girl especially if she is very academically bright i.e. deans honor student, Hi Fi Corporate job, making more money than the guy tend to as time goes on look down upon the guy if he is not doing well and the marriage starts to collapse.

The same is now happening to my elder brother after almost 10 years of marriage, i told my parents about my fears very early on i.e. Year 2 but like most desi parents they just dismissed it, brushed it under the carpet under the pretext things will get better on their own but they havent and even 2 twin babies have failed to address this problem.

After 10 long years of defending my bhabi, my mother herself has finally run out of patience with her and feels she is a lost cause and now regrets her decision.

My friend is in a similar situation where compared to his wife he is an under achiever but in this instance the girl makes a conscious effort not to make my friend feel inferior in any way, always publically supports, defends him and is ok with my friend working part time, playing a major domestic role in terms of taking care of the kids while she works those big corporate hours tension free. However these women are very rare i.e. adaptable

 

[Technics 1210]

Now that I have been tagged in this thread, I will speak from my heart and people can say what they want.

Multiple marriages, multiple divorces, marrying women with adult children and even marrying white women is against the cultural norms and values of our Pakistani society. If we don't uphold these norms, we will be criticised and discussed even if it is our personal life. It is inevitable.

Furthermore, yes it is allowed in Islam, but we have certain conventions in our culture that are independent from our religion. For example, marrying 4 women is allowed in Islam and its common in the Gulf, but it is frowned upon in Pakistani society.

People always criticise Reham for the divorce and will inevitably end up blaming Bushra bibi (if God forbid they part ways in the future) as well simply because they are enslaved by their devotion to Imran, but failed marriages are never 100% on one partner's head.

After returning from Libya, Reham's family lived three houses away from mine in Peshawar, and my family is well-acquainted with her family. She was never known for her character in her social circle, and that is why people were critical of Imran at the time when he married her. However, as usual, the concerns of these people were discarded because "it is his personal life and he can do what he wants", but we saw the result.

Imran's track-record of marriages is not something that any Pakistani man would wish on his son, father, brother or any man that he cares about. First he married a white woman which is unconventional in our society. He then proceeded to marry two women with grown up kids, which again, is despised in our society. No regular Pakistani people with a shred of respect for their cultural values would want their son to marry women with adult children.

As far as Jemima is concerned, it was again down to Imran's lack of judgement that he would later show with Reham. No doubt a fine woman and that is reflected even today, but Imran should have known that an aristocratic white British woman would never be able to adjust to our Pakistani society in spite of having an anglophilic husband, and by 1995, Imran knew that his long-term future was in Pakistan.

It is very easy for people to say that our culture is wrong and backward, and we should not take about personal lives of other people, but we don't live in a utopian world. These things have repercussions in Pakistani society, and when you pull the type of stunts that Imran has when it comes to his personal life, you are simply exposing yourself to public scrutiny.

People can criticise my post as much as they want and they can also criticise Sethi for being shameless and whatever, but they should also appreciate the fact that Imran has left no stone unturned to completely undermine the social and cultural norms of Pakistan when it comes to his married life.

Multiple marriages and multiple divorces are frowned upon in many societies.

Henry the 8th was married 4 times, and you revere him.

Abrahamic faiths permit multiple marriages, and divorce too.

People do marry the wrong person because their judgement was skewed. It happens, hence provisions for divorce in society and religion.

I am guessing you are not married, and your champ Modi, who never married either, are two peas in a pod.

 

[Technics 1210]

As I have stated already in one of my previous posts, your married life is not going to have a big impact on your political career.

For example, I personally won’t wish my son to have a personal life like Imran’s, but I still voted for him twice.

People voted for Imran because they believe in his political manifesto and think that he can bring change in Pakistan.

The fact that he is a tried and tested failure when it comes to personal relationships is not a big enough reason for people to not vote for him.

The point is not to undermine his political career because of his marriages; the point is that his personal life is against the norms of Pakistani society and hence, it will be discussed and criticized just like Maryam’s personal life.

I have come to the conclusion that you deliberately post to be either obtrusive, controversial, or both.

You claim above that married life is not going to have a big impact on a political career, but crucify Imran Khan for 3 marriages because they do not bode well with culture and have an impact on his political career.

For the record, married life (and religion) do have an effect on political careers - name me a President/PM in the West that was single and an atheist who won an election - remember now - no Google!

 

[Salma_T]

I am not against aspirations and goals, but i have seen terrifying examples where the girl especially if she is very academically bright i.e. deans honor student, Hi Fi Corporate job, making more money than the guy tend to as time goes on look down upon the guy if he is not doing well and the marriage starts to collapse.

The same is now happening to my elder brother after almost 10 years of marriage, i told my parents about my fears very early on i.e. Year 2 but like most desi parents they just dismissed it, brushed it under the carpet under the pretext things will get better on their own but they havent and even 2 twin babies have failed to address this problem.

After 10 long years of defending my bhabi, my mother herself has finally run out of patience with her and feels she is a lost cause and now regrets her decision.

My friend is in a similar situation where compared to his wife he is an under achiever but in this instance the girl makes a conscious effort not to make my friend feel inferior in any way, always publically supports, defends him and is ok with my friend working part time, playing a major domestic role in terms of taking care of the kids while she works those big corporate hours tension free. However these women are very rare i.e. adaptable

They do exist......And not as rare as you think.

 

[CleverSir]

To bring this back to the OP's post. What the hell is he (Sethi) even implying? It is absolute nonsense that he keeps blabbering. If you have something to say, say it. Don't hide behind double meanings.

 

[CricVet]

One word - "Bi Jamalo". I guess the guy is having manly issues and is acting like old "mohallay key BBC Amma".

 

[predictablyunpredictable]

Actually, everyone does to an extent and Imran is no different. He had to hide his daughter in London and not publicly acknowledge ownership because it would have been the end of his political career in Pakistan. Our society has zero tolerance for illegitimate children.

Nevertheless, you are a fan of these virtues because if I am not wrong, you were born and brought up in Australia - you obviously have different cultural and social values than people who were born and brought up in Pakistan. I have no hesitation in admitting that if my son were to marry a white man, or a women with adult children, I will not be happy about it.

I will try everything In can to talk to him out of it. I will obviously not try to force him against his will, but I will sure try very hard to change his mind. It is not that I wouldn't want to see him happy, but because of how our society views these things. In Pakistan, you cannot always do what you want - the concept of personal life here is not what it is in the West.

I am certain that Pakistani based PPers will have similar sentiments, but that wouldn't stop them from lying in this thread to blend in and not come across as "backward" and "narrow-minded".

I was born and brought up in Pakistan. Brought up in a traditional household and made aware of all the cultural, religious norms and value and even then I still don't find anything wrong with IK marrying a women with Kids. It is not just IK, I wouldn't mind any man in his 60s marrying a woman with adult kids as long as they are at the same spectrum emotionally and mentally and think they are good for each other.

 

[predictablyunpredictable]

I also have a family member who has been divorced twice. Your grandfather and my family member are exceptions in our society. Unlike the West, divorce and separation are not very common in Pakistan of the cultural taboo. Similarly, marrying women with adult children is an even bigger taboo than divorce.

There is no such thing as a macho Pakistani society. It is an undeniable fact that the majority of people in Pakistan do not approve of the type of personal life that Imran has had. No regular family, which means the majority, will want their son to marry a woman who has an 18 year old son from her previous marriage or to marry a whites woman or worse, to have a child out of wedlock.

It is a big deal in Pakistani culture and I see nothing but denial by people who are enslaved by their loyalty to Imran and consider it their sworn duty to defend and justify everything.

So, what I understood from your post is that you won't do and support anything that is not accepted by the masses, doesn't matter how right or wrong it is. In some areas of Pakistan it is still a taboo when a girl marries by her choice, are you not gonna support that just because it is not accepted by masses in that area? Getting a divorce is looked down in Pakistan, are you gonna stay in toxic environment or advice someone to stay in it just because society is not gonna accept that person? What is wrong with marrying a divorcee with a kid if S/he is a nice person, understands you, respects you and you connect?

Instead of going with want the masses approve of, we should go with what is right and that is how we make this world a better place. Also, IK's personal life is none of any ones business.

 

[Mamoon]

I was born and brought up in Pakistan. Brought up in a traditional household and made aware of all the cultural, religious norms and value and even then I still don't find anything wrong with IK marrying a women with Kids. It is not just IK, I wouldn't mind any man in his 60s marrying a woman with adult kids as long as they are at the same spectrum emotionally and mentally and think they are good for each other.

So, what I understood from your post is that you won't do and support anything that is not accepted by the masses, doesn't matter how right or wrong it is. In some areas of Pakistan it is still a taboo when a girl marries by her choice, are you not gonna support that just because it is not accepted by masses in that area? Getting a divorce is looked down in Pakistan, are you gonna stay in toxic environment or advice someone to stay in it just because society is not gonna accept that person? What is wrong with marrying a divorcee with a kid if S/he is a nice person, understands you, respects you and you connect?

Instead of going with want the masses approve of, we should go with what is right and that is how we make this world a better place. Also, IK's personal life is none of any ones business.

As I have stated multiple times already, it is not about right or wrong. It is how our culture is. Imran Khan and anyone else is free to break away from these norms and traditions, but then they should also be prepared for the fact that people will discuss and criticise their personal lives.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No public figure, least of all a prime minister, can claim that his or her “private affairs” are out of the scope of public scrutiny especially if they impinge on matters covered by Articles 62 and 63 of the Constitution of Pakistan. A single spark <a href="https://t.co/ynkLmx3MGl">https://t.co/ynkLmx3MGl</a></p>— Najam Sethi (@najamsethi) <a href="https://twitter.com/najamsethi/status/1114028033101520897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Abdullah719]

ISLAMABAD (Dunya News) – Prime Minister Imran Khan on Saturday commenting on his marital life acknowledged his wife Bushra Bibi to be a blessing from Allah and vowed to remain together till their last breath.

Talking to Dunya News Anchor person Junaid Saleem, PM Khan refuted all rumors related to his marital life.

Earlier, first lady Bushra BiBi during her interview with a private TV channel, a few months back, called PM Imran Khan a leader rather than just a politician. She divulged that Imran Khan is a very simple man devoid of any greed.

‘Only Imran Khan can bring change in Pakistan but change requires time,’ she added.

Bushra Bibi defending her right to wear a hijab, inspiring many, implied that it’s a private matter and her personal choice.

‘Those who don’t want to wear hijab, can do so.’

Bushra bibi described her heart-rending visits to old homes and the orphanage after becoming the first lady distressing, leaving an everlasting impact on her and now she is making an effort to make better the lives of those living there.

https://t.co/DIyt9j812e

 

[MenInG]

Sad that all this is actually news but par for the course for some

 

[Abdullah719]

Pemra orders Channel-24 to air apology 'for propagating false news' about PM Imran's personal life

The Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra) on Friday issued orders to Channel-24 to air an apology within seven days through its show Najam Sethi ke saath as penance for what the regulator described as propagation of false news about the prime minister.

The authority stated that the decision was taken following a complaint lodged by Prime Minister Imran Khan at Pemra's Council of Complaints.

The decision was taken under the terms outlined in Clause 18 of the Electronic Media (Programmes and Advertisements) Code of Conduct 2015, Pemra stated in its notification.

Although the notification steered clear of expressly mentioning the nature of the "false news" in question, it appears that the Pemra orders pertain to certain remarks made by Sethi on the premier's marital life.

The episode in question was aired on March 30. During the show, Sethi claimed that "a little bird" had told him that the prime minister had "developed differences" with the first lady.

Six days later, Sethi wrote an op-ed in The Friday Times, revealing that the premier had "formally applied to Pemra" to act against the channel "for airing a statement that allegedly defames him".

"No public figure, least of all a prime minister, can claim that his or her 'private affairs' are out of the scope of public scrutiny especially if they impinge on matters covered by Articles 62 and 63 of the Constitution of Pakistan," Sethi tweeted, quoting an excerpt from his article.

In his piece, he also mentioned that the channel has been asked "to immediately appear before its Complaints Committee and defend itself".

Today, however, upon receiving Pemra's directives, Sethi took to Twitter to question the orders, saying that the authority "did not give us (Channel-24) an opportunity to defend this statement".


Pemra's directives to Channel-24

The channel has been directed by Pemra to air an apology during the same show "besides running text scrolls to the same effect for propagating false news about [the] Prime Minister of Pakistan".

"The apology, including that in audio visual and text scroll form, should clearly refer to in its subjective context without repeating the afore-noted news item," states Pemra's notification.

The channel has also been ordered to a pay a sum of Rs1 million as fine to the authority.

In case of failure by the channel to comply either partially or wholly with Pemra's orders, the show concerned "shall remain prohibited for a period of thirty days", according to the notification.

Furthermore, non-compliance shall be construed by the authority as the channel being "willfully defiant" and measures shall then be taken to suspend and/or revoke its license.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1478569/p...ting-false-news-about-pm-imrans-personal-life

 

[topspin]

Pemra orders Channel-24 to air apology 'for propagating false news' about PM Imran's personal life

The Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra) on Friday issued orders to Channel-24 to air an apology within seven days through its show Najam Sethi ke saath as penance for what the regulator described as propagation of false news about the prime minister.

The authority stated that the decision was taken following a complaint lodged by Prime Minister Imran Khan at Pemra's Council of Complaints.

The decision was taken under the terms outlined in Clause 18 of the Electronic Media (Programmes and Advertisements) Code of Conduct 2015, Pemra stated in its notification.

Although the notification steered clear of expressly mentioning the nature of the "false news" in question, it appears that the Pemra orders pertain to certain remarks made by Sethi on the premier's marital life.

The episode in question was aired on March 30. During the show, Sethi claimed that "a little bird" had told him that the prime minister had "developed differences" with the first lady.

Six days later, Sethi wrote an op-ed in The Friday Times, revealing that the premier had "formally applied to Pemra" to act against the channel "for airing a statement that allegedly defames him".

"No public figure, least of all a prime minister, can claim that his or her 'private affairs' are out of the scope of public scrutiny especially if they impinge on matters covered by Articles 62 and 63 of the Constitution of Pakistan," Sethi tweeted, quoting an excerpt from his article.

In his piece, he also mentioned that the channel has been asked "to immediately appear before its Complaints Committee and defend itself".

Today, however, upon receiving Pemra's directives, Sethi took to Twitter to question the orders, saying that the authority "did not give us (Channel-24) an opportunity to defend this statement".


Pemra's directives to Channel-24

The channel has been directed by Pemra to air an apology during the same show "besides running text scrolls to the same effect for propagating false news about [the] Prime Minister of Pakistan".

"The apology, including that in audio visual and text scroll form, should clearly refer to in its subjective context without repeating the afore-noted news item," states Pemra's notification.

The channel has also been ordered to a pay a sum of Rs1 million as fine to the authority.

In case of failure by the channel to comply either partially or wholly with Pemra's orders, the show concerned "shall remain prohibited for a period of thirty days", according to the notification.

Furthermore, non-compliance shall be construed by the authority as the channel being "willfully defiant" and measures shall then be taken to suspend and/or revoke its license.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1478569/p...ting-false-news-about-pm-imrans-personal-life

Najam Sethi should be doing the apologising.

It doesn't surprise me when I hear this stuff from him because those who know are aware of his shady past. Here's a clue Balochistan - wink wink

 

[Savak]

About time the govt got forceful with Najam Sethi, he has been acting like the official spokesperson for NS, AZ and BB.

 

[SensiblePakFan]

Good.

 

[WebGuru]

About time the govt got forceful with Najam Sethi, he has been acting like the official spokesperson for NS, AZ and BB.

Looks like it's happening already...