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[VIDEO] India police publicly flogging Muslims accused of pelting stones at a Hindu festival dance

Who is this we? I doubt India media is looking for certification from Bangladesh.

So, are you saying Indian media is credible? This is the same media that accused a bird of being a foreign spy. How funny!

I also do not need certification from someone from West Bengal. I can write whatever I want.
 
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Still waiting for a condemnation of the attack on a temple and religious festival of Hindus.
 
Dude it’s shameful to make excuses for this. Stop

If police has been forceful, many riots would have been prevented in India. The Ram Navami riots in Delhi started in this way.

Muslims pelted stones on a hindu procession. The police was more interested in talking to the pelters. Hindus retaliated. Rioting happened.

In a place, like India, urgent action is needed to stop these things.

This goes for everyone, hindus muslims sokhs everyone and anyone trying to incite riots.
 
If police has been forceful, many riots would have been prevented in India. The Ram Navami riots in Delhi started in this way.

Muslims pelted stones on a hindu procession. The police was more interested in talking to the pelters. Hindus retaliated. Rioting happened.

In a place, like India, urgent action is needed to stop these things.

This goes for everyone, hindus muslims sokhs everyone and anyone trying to incite riots.

I am not saying what the Muslims did I right. I am saying the public taking actions into their hands and police not stopping that is wrong.
 
If police has been forceful, many riots would have been prevented in India. The Ram Navami riots in Delhi started in this way.

Muslims pelted stones on a hindu procession. The police was more interested in talking to the pelters. Hindus retaliated. Rioting happened.

In a place, like India, urgent action is needed to stop these things.

This goes for everyone, hindus muslims sokhs everyone and anyone trying to incite riots.

Should the hindus that have desecrated the mosque be forcefully and publicly dealt with by the police there and then

Why havent they yet
 
It has been reported in every media that these guys attacked a religious festival.

A mob was attacking a hindu temple and police used force to control them. There would be no mollycoddling for such people. They won't be able to cry "Racist" at police and get away here.

Answer the question, running away will only show you are not a honest poster.

Would you be happy to see Hindus also flogged in public for any similar case?

Yes or No?
 
Answer the question, running away will only show you are not a honest poster.

Would you be happy to see Hindus also flogged in public for any similar case?

Yes or No?

I have already answered that question in another post.
 
With each passing day I realize, we can't thank the Quaid enough.

Ofcourse he was right. He's another side of the coin of RSS which also thought the same. They finally killed Gandhi for his stupidity in assuming this will work. Read about the stories during partition and how Hindus and Muslims killed each other in the tens of thousands in Punjab and Bengal. Hyderabad too. Who in their right mind thought this would work? Irony is, many Muslims who actually supported the partition stayed back in India. Why? Who knows.
 
So a 200 person 'mob' is throwing stones at a large group. And there is no camera footage from people's phones?
 
The flogging of some Muslim men, accused of disrupting a Navratri Garba event in Gujarat's Kheda earlier this week, was done by some local cops, sources have told NDTV.

The viral video clips showed the accused men being tied to poles and beaten with sticks - allegedly by the policemen dressed in plain clothes - in Undhela village of Kheda district, while a crowd of locals cheered the crackdown.

The men were also seen apologising to the public with folded hands. NDTV cannot verify the authenticity of the videos.

Amid huge outrage over the videos, state police chief Ashish Bhatia ordered an inquiry into the incident yesterday.

"I have ordered an inquiry. We will take disciplinary action depending upon the gravity of the charges," Ashish Bhatia told NDTV.

The panel investigating the incident will submit its report to the police over the next couple of days, sources said, adding that disciplinary action against the accused cops will be taken once the veracity of the videos is confirmed.

Several people, including women and a police official, were injured after some members of the Muslim community, in a bid to stop the Garba event, threw stones at the participants on Monday night, officials said.

"When garba started, people from the Muslim community gathered and tried to stop the event. When people did not stop, they resorted to stone pelting," said VR Bajpai, Deputy Superintendent of Police, Kheda district.

A case has been registered and thirteen people have been arrested so far, Mr Bajpai added.

NDTV
 
Just did a quick scroll through this thread and i can confirm that some Indians believe that public flogging by the police is used as a method to de-escalate the situation.

Cricketjoshila - “how do you arrest a mob of 200”

Also cricketjoshila - “we should publicly flog the mob of 200”.
 
Just did a quick scroll through this thread and i can confirm that some Indians believe that public flogging by the police is used as a method to de-escalate the situation.

Cricketjoshila - “how do you arrest a mob of 200”

Also cricketjoshila - “we should publicly flog the mob of 200”.

Yousaf the beast and the rest of the thread: Outrage on police. Silent on the attack on hindus.
 
it is not for the police to execute Taliban style punishment in the middle of the street. Arrest them and take them to court. Police cannot act like vigilante groups.

Stop drawing the dumb Taliban equivalence. Can you imagine what would happen if someone threw stones on a religious proceeding under Taliban?

You think the mob if caught would get away with a couple of hits to the behind?

You go to a temple on a religious day or first day of a movie release of a big star,when the crowd gets unruly, the cops use the stick to make them fall in line. It would be unacceptable every where else and while I don’t endorse using force, if you are in that situation you would understand.
 
Stop drawing the dumb Taliban equivalence. Can you imagine what would happen if someone threw stones on a religious proceeding under Taliban?

You think the mob if caught would get away with a couple of hits to the behind?

You go to a temple on a religious day or first day of a movie release of a big star,when the crowd gets unruly, the cops use the stick to make them fall in line. It would be unacceptable every where else and while I don’t endorse using force, if you are in that situation you would understand.

The police use sticks or lathis to control large mobs. They don't tie individuals to a post and administer punitive flogging. That is done by stone age Islamists, so actually it is you who is making dumb comparisons, this is very much in line with what the Taliban would do.
 
Stop drawing the dumb Taliban equivalence. Can you imagine what would happen if someone threw stones on a religious proceeding under Taliban?

You think the mob if caught would get away with a couple of hits to the behind?

You go to a temple on a religious day or first day of a movie release of a big star,when the crowd gets unruly, the cops use the stick to make them fall in line. It would be unacceptable every where else and while I don’t endorse using force, if you are in that situation you would understand.

If this was Taliban, there would be beheadings.
 
At least the Taliban would hold some sort of court proceedings to determine guilt before administering kangaroo court floggings.
 
I have already answered that question in another post.

Ill assume it was a yes and everyone inc Hindus should be flogged.

To add, if this happens can Muslims line up to join the flogging.

btw still waiting for proof of 200 Muslims throwing stones.
 
Wheres the video of this mob of 200 attacking hindus?
 
Yousaf the beast and the rest of the thread: Outrage on police. Silent on the attack on hindus.

I’m sure Hindu’s have pelted stones at Muslims in India, have they been publicly flogged by the police?

Tbf, I’m not outraged by the Indian police, lol. It’s expected.

You just come across as someone who believes that Hindu’s are always the victims.
 
Barbarians from the middle ages, and they beat their chest for being the biggest democracy, what a joke
 
The RSS Hindu fanatics have this absurd fantasy of an Akhand Bharat! I wonder why they would want 400 million more Muslim's of Pakistan and Bangladesh in their Akhand Bharat when they want their current Muslim's out of India! These people obviously lack basic common sense.
 
Wheres the video of this mob of 200 attacking hindus?

Why should there be a video? Is that a essential requirement for an attack to happen?

Every media outlet in India has reported it.

Infact, muslims haven't denied it. Their excuse was that the temple grounds where the garba was organised was close to a mosque, hence they were provoked and pelted stones.

Several people, including policemen were injured. Ofcourse Police used force to bring them under control.
 
I’m sure Hindu’s have pelted stones at Muslims in India, have they been publicly flogged by the police?

Tbf, I’m not outraged by the Indian police, lol. It’s expected.

You just come across as someone who believes that Hindu’s are always the victims.

If Hindus had been half the street power muslims try to show, Muslim population in India would be heading the same way, Hindu population in BD is going.

Why its muslim vs Hindus in most of India? Muslims vs Christians in Kerala?
Muslims vs Tribals in North East?

Heck in Lanka, Thailand, Myanmar its muslims vs Buddhists.

Ofcourse there is the usual Muslim vs Jews and Muslim vs Christians.
 
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If Hindus had been half the street power muslims try to show, Muslim population in India would be heading the same way, Hindu population in BD is going.

Why its muslim vs Hindus in most of India? Muslims vs Christians in Kerala?
Muslims vs Tribals in North East?

Heck in Lanka, Thailand, Myanmar its muslims vs Buddhists.

Ofcourse there is the usual Muslim vs Jews and Muslim vs Christians.

Continuing from the above, Muslims in India, atleast a section of them are easily incitable by politicians and religious leaders to resort to violence. Ofcourse like many on PP they think they are superior and will beat the folowers of the other religions.
 
If Hindus had been half the street power muslims try to show, Muslim population in India would be heading the same way, Hindu population in BD is going.

Why its muslim vs Hindus in most of India? Muslims vs Christians in Kerala?
Muslims vs Tribals in North East?


Heck in Lanka, Thailand, Myanmar its muslims vs Buddhists.

Ofcourse there is the usual Muslim vs Jews and Muslim vs Christians.

Noticed this too and won't sugarcoat things like most Indian posters here. There's something inherently conflict-inducing in the way Muslims go about their faith.

Even in this forum, while I started off avoiding these topics, it's just hard to ignore the same particular mindset.
 
If Hindus had been half the street power muslims try to show, Muslim population in India would be heading the same way, Hindu population in BD is going.

Why its muslim vs Hindus in most of India? Muslims vs Christians in Kerala?
Muslims vs Tribals in North East?

Heck in Lanka, Thailand, Myanmar its muslims vs Buddhists.

Ofcourse there is the usual Muslim vs Jews and Muslim vs Christians.

Why do you think it is?
 
Noticed this too and won't sugarcoat things like most Indian posters here. There's something inherently conflict-inducing in the way Muslims go about their faith.

Even in this forum, while I started off avoiding these topics, it's just hard to ignore the same particular mindset.

There is nothing conflict inducing in their faith. Nothing. I live in a city with 30 per cent muslims and except 2 guys have never felt anyone was aggressive.

The politicians and religious leaders incite them.

In the case mentioned in the OP, the local congress leader incited and led the mob. May be because the BJP guy won the sarpanch election.

My Muslim colleagues who are doctors are some of the post honest sincere upstanding people i have met.
 
Let me ask you,

If Hindus were celebrating navratri and doing garba at a temple ground near a mosque, will you find it offensive?

No I would not find it offensive. They have the right to worship and celebrate like anybody else.

You will see in this thread I am one of the few from the opposing side who thought a bit of light flogging is an apt punishment for messing with the sacred celebrations of others.

Now I have answered your question could you please answer mine.
 
No I would not find it offensive. They have the right to worship and celebrate like anybody else.

You will see in this thread I am one of the few from the opposing side who thought a bit of light flogging is an apt punishment for messing with the sacred celebrations of others.

Now I have answered your question could you please answer mine.

So why did the muslim mob attacked that Garba celebration?

The answer is in who led the mob? A local congress politician was leading the mob. Its always some politician who incites muslims into these acts. Ordinary muslims have nothing to do with these violent acts. But a section of them are incited and provoked by politicians or religious leaders to attack non muslim religious events.

Pick any muslim induced riot in India, you will see some politician or some local religious leader getting involved in starting it.

Then there would be some

This is my understanding.

Regarding the flogging, policemen were injured in the stone pelting and thats when police resorted to use of force.
 
So why did the muslim mob attacked that Garba celebration?

The answer is in who led the mob? A local congress politician was leading the mob. Its always some politician who incites muslims into these acts. Ordinary muslims have nothing to do with these violent acts. But a section of them are incited and provoked by politicians or religious leaders to attack non muslim religious events.

Pick any muslim induced riot in India, you will see some politician or some local religious leader getting involved in starting it.

Then there would be some

This is my understanding.

Regarding the flogging, policemen were injured in the stone pelting and thats when police resorted to use of force.

Its an interesting hypothesis.

Let's explore further. Muslims in your eyes are the aggressors - what do you think makes them more susceptible to being incited?

You have claimed Muslims riot against Hindus, Sikhs, Christian, Buddhists and believe that each time the muslims are to blame.

So why do you think that incitement only exists amongst muslims?
 
Its an interesting hypothesis.

Let's explore further. Muslims in your eyes are the aggressors - what do you think makes them more susceptible to being incited?

You have claimed Muslims riot against Hindus, Sikhs, Christian, Buddhists and believe that each time the muslims are to blame.

So why do you think that incitement only exists amongst muslims?

I said whenever Muslims initiated a riot. There is recorded history of muslims initiating riots against Hindus, Christians, NE tribals in India in last few years. If a community is having issues with most of other communities then there has to be some reason.

And whatever i have read, and i have read about the riots in last couple of decades, i have found that some politician has gone ahead and lighted the fire among muslims. Muslims were provoked in the name of religion to resort to violence. Actually a video of such a speech was on Dailymotion and i listened to it. It was so poisonous that i am not surprised that poor villagers who were muslims started a riot shortly after.

There was a thread on PP during the spate of ISIS attacks in Europe and many posters agreed that some how muslims are getting brainwashed easily in the name of religion.

Let me give an example,

You as a muslim said you are not offended by the garba being played near a mosque. But some 200 muslims still attacked it saying it was provoking them.

Is your Islam different from their Islam? No. They were made political pawns using religion as an excuse.

Islam is being used as a political tool to incite muslims to propogate violence. Has happened around the world, including India.

Unfortunately, people who claim to fight in the name of the Prophet (PBUH) has hardly learnt anything from his life.
 
Muslims Boycott Polls In Gujarat Village, Site Of Public Flogging By Cops

Kheda, Gujarat:

Muslims in Undhela village of Kheda district in Gujarat today boycotted the Gujarat Assembly elections. This is the village where the police were in October seen flogging Muslim men tied to a pole for allegedly throwing stones at a Navratri garba event.

Every Muslim in the village has so far boycotted the election, with just half an hour to go for voting to end.

Some Muslim men were arrested, tied to a pole, and flogged with canes by police personnel in the Kheda district. Crowds were seen cheering as officers watched plain-clothes cops hit the men.

The men were reportedly asked to "apologise to the public", and the police inspector in charge of the area was present too.

An inquiry committee was set up after the flogging incident, but no report has been released yet.

The incident sparked outrage, with many questioning the police's "kangaroo justice", while there were others defending the "quick fix".

News agency PTI had reported that a mob of around 150 people threw stones at a garba event on premises of a temple on October 3; 43 were named in the case.

According to the First Information Report, or FIR, members from the Muslim community in the village objected to garba being organised near a mosque, which is located across the temple.

"Police detained 13 persons after the FIR was registered at Matar police station," Deputy Superintendent of Police VR Bajpai had told PTI. Police were deployed in large number at the village following the incident.

"The village sarpanch (head) had organised garba at a temple. A mob from the Muslim community tried to stop it from taking place," Mr Bajpai told reporters.

Earlier, Kheda superintendent of police Rajesh Gadhiya had said a group of people led by two Muslim men entered the Navratri Garba venue and "started causing trouble".

NDTV
 
Official Denies Vote Boycott By Muslims In Gujarat Village Over Public Flogging

Kheda:

As many as 1,400 Muslim voters from Undhela village in Gujarat's Kheda district boycotted voting during the second phase of the state Assembly polls in protest against the public flogging of some men from the community by police two months ago, community leaders have claimed.

Poll officials have denied the claim saying there was no boycott call.

Seven persons, including a policeman, were injured when stones were thrown at a Garba event in Kheda district in October by a group allegedly comprising members of the Muslim community. They had objected to holding the event near a mosque.

Later, videos showing policemen in plain clothes beating some men, suspected to have thrown stones, with sticks in front of other villagers went viral on social media, causing an uproar.

On Monday, community leaders said all 1,400 Muslim voters of the total 3,700 voters in Undhela village, situated in Matar taluka, joined the protest and didn't exercise their franchise when polling was held across 93 Assembly seats of the state in the second phase.

"All Muslim voters from the village stayed away from the voting process as a mark of protest against the public flogging and the administration's refusal to punish the guilty," local Muslim leader Maqbul Saiyad claimed.

"We gave a boycott call to express our anger at the one-sided action by police. Till now, no policemen have been suspended for their misdeed," he said.

However, Kheda Collector KL Bachani while citing local poll officials said there was no boycott call.

"As per the Returning Officer's report, no such incident has taken place and no one has approached us with any such issues. As per our record, 43 per cent of voters did turn up in Undhela to vote today," said Mr Bachani.

The counting of votes for all 182 Assembly constituencies in Gujarat - which went to polls in two phases on December 1 and 5 - will be taken up on December 8.
 
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