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[VIDEO] India replies to PM Imran Khan's speech at the UNGA

Bewal Express said:
The World has been aware that Ind is under extremist Fascist control. Look at the twitter trends yesterday, it will take time but Ind will be associated with a fascism and that is done achievement. It's up to us through social media to keep people aware.
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World has been aware? LMAO. Imran saying something is not the world's voice.

When world says what Pakistan says, then tag me.

Right now only Pakistan is saying and the world is continuing with its normal relations with India.
 
cricketjoshila said:
World has been aware? LMAO. Imran saying something is not the world's voice.

When world says what Pakistan says, then tag me.

Right now only Pakistan is saying and the world is continuing with its normal relations with India.
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Thanks for admiting that PK is right on fascists ruling Ind, and don't worry for many years fascist Apartheid SA felt the same and guess what happened there?
 
No mention of millions of hostages in Indian Occupied Kashmir? The murders, the incarceration and the rape of IOK didn't get any mention.

How pathetic.
 
That was the greatest speech by a Pakistani leader at the UN since bhutto''s in the 70''s.

My take from what he said and it's implications

1) India has been check mated with regards to its false allegations whenever something goes wrong in kashmir. They can no longer use the Pakistan "izh tarrorist" bakwaas.

2) India is now facing a Pakistan that has its jazba and dalairy back thanks to its leadership.

3) India can no longer expect an easy ride in the int diplomatic arena. Or the media. They targeted every aspect of Pakistani society. But now they will face the full fury of a new hybrid campaign.

4) the Indian govt has been exposed as a racist fascist regime. They aren't even apologetic about it. The useless reply said it all. IK has shook them to their psychological core. Beginning on the 27th of Feb. The shattering of the Indian psyche is all sight to behold.

5) and then the unapologetic flurry at the end. Also they haven't all swerved his main question what allnsweredre they going to do when the people come out? Bomb us again. Next time our response will not just shatter the Indian psyche but it will break through to the soul of india itself.


And my question for those who support India. Are you not worried about your fascist govt?

Remember if you support a nazi that makes you one too
 
India can give a two-star response and it will suffice the international community.

They simply have the economic market to blackmail the industrialized nations to remain silent on their atrocities.

Pakistan is in a lose-lose situation because military action risks war and economic sanctions while diplomacy hangs on the output of industry.
 
Bewal Express said:
Thanks for admiting that PK is right on fascists ruling Ind, and don't worry for many years fascist Apartheid SA felt the same and guess what happened there?
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Admitting?

I said pakistan saying something doesnot mean anything.

When the world says, then it may be.

Until then pakistanis are celebrating that the pakistani pm narrated the pakistani narrative.
 
the Great Khan said:
That was the greatest speech by a Pakistani leader at the UN since bhutto''s in the 70''s.

My take from what he said and it's implications

1) India has been check mated with regards to its false allegations whenever something goes wrong in kashmir. They can no longer use the Pakistan "izh tarrorist" bakwaas.

2) India is now facing a Pakistan that has its jazba and dalairy back thanks to its leadership.

3) India can no longer expect an easy ride in the int diplomatic arena. Or the media. They targeted every aspect of Pakistani society. But now they will face the full fury of a new hybrid campaign.

4) the Indian govt has been exposed as a racist fascist regime. They aren't even apologetic about it. The useless reply said it all. IK has shook them to their psychological core. Beginning on the 27th of Feb. The shattering of the Indian psyche is all sight to behold.

5) and then the unapologetic flurry at the end. Also they haven't all swerved his main question what allnsweredre they going to do when the people come out? Bomb us again. Next time our response will not just shatter the Indian psyche but it will break through to the soul of india itself.


And my question for those who support India. Are you not worried about your fascist govt?

Remember if you support a nazi that makes you one too
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Pakistanis saying something doesnot make it the truth. Be it a poster or be it their PM.

Unless the world stands up and believes it, its only pakistani narrative that means nothing to anyone but pakistanis.

Rhetorical speeches achieve nothing.

Tell me what happened post the ZAB speech in UNGA?

You will realise the futility of this speech, when few months down the line, the situation will be same.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Admitting?

I said pakistan saying something doesnot mean anything.

When the world says, then it may be.

Until then pakistanis are celebrating that the pakistani pm narrated the pakistani narrative.
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You have admitted that Ind is a fascist state and your only argument seems to be that the World doesn't care, and that was the same with fascist SA at the start but by the end, everyone knew it. IK has started the ball rolling, and he is better known and more respected than any Ind since Gandhi, and he has shown a mirror which you don't like.
 
Bewal Express said:
You have admitted that Ind is a fascist state and your only argument seems to be that the World doesn't care, and that was the same with fascist SA at the start but by the end, everyone knew it. IK has started the ball rolling, and he is better known and more respected than any Ind since Gandhi, and he has shown a mirror which don't like.
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I have said that Pakistan's narrative means nothing. If the world says this then it may mean something. Why the world doesnot say anything, because hardly anyone supports pakistans lies and hypocrisy.

Pakistan accusing India means zilch.

More respected? May be among pakistanis. Modi is being awarded by Nations and PMs and Presidents are holding gatherings with him.
 
cricketjoshila said:
I have said that Pakistan's narrative means nothing. If the world says this then it may mean something. Why the world doesnot say anything, because hardly anyone supports pakistans lies and hypocrisy.

Pakistan accusing India means zilch.

More respected? May be among pakistanis. Modi is being awarded by Nations and PMs and Presidents are holding gatherings with him.
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As I explained the world didn't say anything about Apartheid until the 70s, by the 80s the Fascist of SA had been exposed and by the 90s they had fallen. IK has started d the ball rolling.
 
Mamoon said:
And before someone inadvertently corrects her that the minority population dropped to 3% because of East Pakistan independence, ask yourself why that happened in the first place.

We discriminated against them because we considered them inferior to us. We considered their language inferior and we didn’t given them their due economic and political rights. They were also underrepresented in the military because we perceived them to be too short and skinny for combat.

When they resisted we butchered them and didn’t spare the civilians including the women and children. So again - what credibility do we have when we lecture India on human rights? What we did in East Bengal is far worse than what India is doing in J&K.
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You make a good point, what happened in East Pakistan was shameful. However it’s still sad to see that India used misleading twitter troll like stats to make their point. Be honest, if Pakistan used misleading stats like they did you would be attacking them.
 
Professor said:
You make a good point, what happened in East Pakistan was shameful. However it’s still sad to see that India used misleading twitter troll like stats to make their point. Be honest, if Pakistan used misleading stats like they did you would be attacking them.
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I would, but then I concern myself with Pakistan affairs more. Thank you for admitting that what happened in East Pakistan was shameful rather than defending it like the majority.
 
Mamoon said:
I would, but then I concern myself with Pakistan affairs more. Thank you for admitting that what happened in East Pakistan was shameful rather than defending it like the majority.
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The majority see the East Pakistan genocide as a genocide

We are apologetic too

Looks like you haven't gone to Pakistan in a while
 
Mamoon said:
I would, but then I concern myself with Pakistan affairs more. Thank you for admitting that what happened in East Pakistan was shameful rather than defending it like the majority.
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And maybe if ZAB had accepted the election results the tragedy would never have happened. Remind us again who you support these days, its difficult to keep up with which criminals and their progenies you support each day.
 
Professor said:
You make a good point, what happened in East Pakistan was shameful. However it’s still sad to see that India used misleading twitter troll like stats to make their point. Be honest, if Pakistan used misleading stats like they did you would be attacking them.
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Imran Khan in his UN speech yesterday lied that there was no Pakistani involved in 9/11. This is as brazen and blatant as it gets.
 
Syed1 said:
Man some of you Indians come across as so illiterate and ignorant. No wonder you lot have voted for a chaiwala not once but twice.


Look here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed

First Para:

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (sometimes also spelled Khalid Shaikh Mohammed;[4] among at least fifty pseudonyms;[5] born March 1, 1964; or April 14, 1965) is a Pakistani Islamist terrorist held by the United States at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp under terrorism-related charges. He was named as "the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks" in the 9/11 Commission Report.[6]
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cricketjoshila said:
I have said that Pakistan's narrative means nothing. If the world says this then it may mean something. Why the world doesnot say anything, because hardly anyone supports pakistans lies and hypocrisy.

Pakistan accusing India means zilch.

More respected? May be among pakistanis. Modi is being awarded by Nations and PMs and Presidents are holding gatherings with him.
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Lol you need to start following international media then. New york times front page go check it out and many UK media and other country headlines and papers are talking about Indians oppression and lockdown of Kashmir and thats only because of Imran Khan stating facts in his 1 week visit in America and his speech yesterday.

In February Internationally no one believed your lies and not even now. So keep chest pumping to yourself you think you won some big war against Pakistan by revoking Kashmirs special status. As you was embarrassed February world wide you guys had to do this as you knew you couldn't mess with Pak Army or Airforce. So your terrorist Modi and RSS had to do something to win elections to please public after February embarrassment. But don't worry Imran Khan has highlighted the Kashmir issue worldwide which was never highlighted as much so obviously world are knowing and independent UN experts have spoken up against India and what they are doing. So don't worry and have patience and Watch how things unfold.

But can't blame you as you guys need to chest pump like your stupid and fool media and live in La la land.
 
SakunaPataka said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed

First Para:
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Do you even know how Wikipedia works.
Check this out now on Wikipedia
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (sometimes also spelled Khalid Shaikh Mohammed;[4] among at least fifty pseudonyms;[5] born March 1, 1964; or April 14, 1965) is a RSS terrorist held by the United States at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp under terrorism-related charges. He was named as "the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks" in the 9/11 Commission Report.[6]
 
SakunaPataka said:
Imran Khan in his UN speech yesterday lied that there was no Pakistani involved in 9/11. This is as brazen and blatant as it gets.
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This is a prime example of product of RSS hate.

Their argument and support is ridiculous to the point that you want to stop engaging with them because their is no hope.

RSS khaki chaddi wearing soldiers would be quick to call every Muslim and Pakistani ignorant and backward while ignoring the fact they themselves are living in a world that is not sustainable in today’s India.

There is so much hate emitting from India that they can’t even afford to openly speak due to fear that they might not say that might be used to expose them.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
The majority see the East Pakistan genocide as a genocide

We are apologetic too

Looks like you haven't gone to Pakistan in a while
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I have only spent 3 years of my life outside Pakistan, and I am still in Pakistan. Most people do not accept our atrocities in East Pakistan. They take the convenient route of blaming India or try to downplay the magnitude by stating that the numbers are overblown (as if that would make a difference). Some accept it with gritted teeth, but then they making generalized statements that in war these things happen.

However, that is not the point - the point is that why did we discriminate against them to the extent that ultimately we had to commit a genocide to deny them independence.
 
Mamoon said:
I have only spent 3 years of my life outside Pakistan, and I am still in Pakistan. Most people do not accept our atrocities in East Pakistan. They take the convenient route of blaming India or try to downplay the magnitude by stating that the numbers are overblown (as if that would make a difference). Some accept it with gritted teeth, but then they making generalized statements that in war these things happen.

However, that is not the point - the point is that why did we discriminate against them to the extent that ultimately we had to commit a genocide to deny them independence.
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You keep diverting from the original point. They said Pakistan's minority figures have dropped from 23% at partition to 3% today. How much of that is do you think due to genocide of non-muslims, how much due to immigration to India, and how much due to the fact that Bangladesh separated? They are clearly lying when they make the original point. Even if we go by a more reasonable figure of 300k killed in genocide, that only explains less than 1% drop. And that 300k figure was primarily muslims, yes?
 
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Bewal Express said:
And maybe if ZAB had accepted the election results the tragedy would never have happened. Remind us again who you support these days, its difficult to keep up with which criminals and their progenies you support each day.
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Bhutto was the just the face of the opposition. It was the decision of Gen. Yahya and the military elite to deny Mujeeb from forming the government. The blame for the independence of East Pakistan ultimately lies on the shoulders of the military. They did not give two hoots to the victims of the cyclone and they aggravated the situation with a military operation that ultimately spiraled into a full-blown genocide.

Instead of blaming Bhutto, blame Ayub Khan for sowing the seeds of the separatist movement in East Pakistan.
 
ahsan17 said:
You keep diverting from the original point. They said Pakistan's minority figures have dropped from 23% at partition to 3% today. How much of that is do you think due to genocide of non-muslims, how much due to immigration to India, and how much due to the fact that Bangladesh separated? They are clearly lying when they make the original point. Even if we go by a more reasonable figure of 300k killed in genocide, that only explains less than 1% drop. And that 300k figure was primarily muslims, yes?
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India has not specified the reason(s) for why the percentage of minority population dropped in Pakistan, so why are we accusing them of lying? And if they are lying, so what? We also have tremendous expertise on that front. In fact, every countries lies to a considerable extent. That is how it is.

Pakistan’s minority population dropped because of the independence of East Pakistan. However, that is not a justification - we need to explore why we discriminated against them and ultimately failed to hold onto them.

In West Pakistan, there hasn’t been a genocide against minorities. However, they are regularly persecuted and discriminated and the state does not do anything. In fact, the state itself facilitates at times, for example, Imran Khan’s decision to drop Atif Mian from his economic council.

Irrespective of the rising extremism in India, Pakistan is still a far worse country for minorities. India and the rest of the world do not lie when they show us the mirror as far as treatment of minorities is concerned.
 
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Mamoon said:
India has not specified the reason(s) for why the percentage of minority population dropped in Pakistan, so why are we accusing them of lying? And if they are lying, so what? We also have tremendous expertise on that front. In fact, every countries lies to a considerable extent. That is how it is.
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Why does it matter for the reasons they think the population dropped? If the statistics are wrong, does it matter really?

Pakistan’s minority population dropped because of the independence of East Pakistan. However, that is not a justification - we need to explore why we discriminated against them and ultimately failed to hold onto them.
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It is quite literally a justification if it causes demographics to be changed. You can't overnight produce the minority lost to independence.
 
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ahsan17 said:
Why does it matter for the reasons they think the population dropped? If the statistics are wrong, does it matter really?



It is quite literally a justification if it causes demographics to be changed. You can't overnight produce the minority lost to independence.
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My point is that we cannot excuse ourselves because of independence, because ultimately East Pakistan broke away because of our discrimination. We considered them inferior, we considered their language inferior, we didn’t give them fair share from the budget, we denied them political rights and they were under-represented in the military because they were “too short and skinny”.
 
 
SakunaPataka said:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/guantanamo/detainees/10024-khalid-shaikh-mohammed
http://www.internationalcrimesdatabase.org/Case/755/Khalid-Shaikh-Mohammad-et-al/

Also there is no doubt that his parents were Pakistani and the fact that he was caught in Pakistan.
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AFAIK he was born and raised in Kuwait but his parents were pakistani. Since Kuwait doesnot give citizenship easily to people of south asia,he may still be carrying pakistani passport.
 
Mamoon said:
My point is that we cannot excuse ourselves because of independence, because ultimately East Pakistan broke away because of our discrimination. We considered them inferior, we considered their language inferior, we didn’t give them fair share from the budget, we denied them political rights and they were under-represented in the military because they were “too short and skinny”.
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What’s your point in all this? From where I see it, even if we accept your premise, it only relativise and minimise the magnitude of Kashmiri suffering under the occupation. Wake the hell up man. There’s room for self reflection but not in the middle of active human rights violations. I get it. We did some really cruel things in the past but let’s not make them into presidents from which the other side wriggles out of their responsibilities as human beings.
 
cricketjoshila said:
AFAIK he was born and raised in Kuwait but his parents were pakistani. Since Kuwait doesnot give citizenship easily to people of south asia,he may still be carrying pakistani passport.
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also he lived in Pakistan for long periods of time in different cities which is not possible unless one is a citizen or well connected to the Pakistani Military.
 
KingKhan12 said:
Do you even know how Wikipedia works.
Check this out now on Wikipedia
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (sometimes also spelled Khalid Shaikh Mohammed;[4] among at least fifty pseudonyms;[5] born March 1, 1964; or April 14, 1965) is a RSS terrorist held by the United States at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp under terrorism-related charges. He was named as "the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks" in the 9/11 Commission Report.[6]
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Make sure it sticks.
 
JaDed said:
Its much better imo than letting Modi speak.
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or that india believes its not worth his time to change his schedule and come back to reply. Infact he was not even there ... left soon after his speech. Thats how much they value Pakistans words heck they did not even consider it worth the time of their UN Permanent Rep and ambassador (Syed Akbaruddin) to go speak ... instead they chose some low level staff to speak.
 
Mamoon said:
Bhutto was the just the face of the opposition. It was the decision of Gen. Yahya and the military elite to deny Mujeeb from forming the government. The blame for the independence of East Pakistan ultimately lies on the shoulders of the military. They did not give two hoots to the victims of the cyclone and they aggravated the situation with a military operation that ultimately spiraled into a full-blown genocide.

Instead of blaming Bhutto, blame Ayub Khan for sowing the seeds of the separatist movement in East Pakistan.
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Shall I show the video of Billos grandad called our Bengal brothers? ZAB was to blame for the breakup but it was a mess from all concerned.
 
Mamoon said:
My point is that we cannot excuse ourselves because of independence, because ultimately East Pakistan broke away because of our discrimination. We considered them inferior, we considered their language inferior, we didn’t give them fair share from the budget, we denied them political rights and they were under-represented in the military because they were “too short and skinny”.
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Stop pretending that you are the only one that has noticed that the breakup was painful and many wrongs were done. But pathetically you are using something happened 50 years ago, as an excuse for fascist regime that exists in India today. The Kashmiris are not responsible for what happened between us and our Bengalis brothers and the people that committed the crimes are either dead or very old and will have to answer to Allah soon.
 
Stick to the topic - usual tactics by some here.
 
Typical Indians, recruiting 'Velma' from Scooby Doo to read out a Robotic Pre-scripted speech.

Velma.JPG
 
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