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Worse than being beaten up he was even arrested for ‘outraging religious feelings’.
Imagine being arrested for hurting someone’s feelings. In 2021. Pathetic.
Worse than being beaten up he was even arrested for ‘outraging religious feelings’.
Imagine being arrested for hurting someone’s feelings. In 2021. Pathetic.
Indians need to let go of past which is scarred by recent memories of British rule and embrace Islam wholeheartedly in my opinion. That way there will be no conflict of emotions when defending religious feeling regardless of whether the year is 2000 BC or 2021 AD.
I hope the Indians lecturing us on free speech when it comes to insulting religious figures in secular nations will also be here their droves in this threa......wait. Theres noone here.
If you haven't noticed already - no one is be-headed yet. I think hindus are also allowed to show slight emotions.
Fair enough. If Islam cannot be insulted in India , same goes for Hinduism.
Fair enough. If Islam cannot be insulted in India , same goes for Hinduism.
Slight emotions would be a protest tweet or holding a placard assuming the country was religious in the first place. Here we are talking about a "secular" nation where religious minorites are brutally assaulted and arrested by the authorities for merely partaking freedom of expression. Please explain?
Slight emotions would be a protest tweet or holding a placard assuming the country was religious in the first place. Here we are talking about a "secular" nation where religious minorites are brutally assaulted and arrested by the authorities for merely partaking freedom of expression. Please explain?
I already replied above, and I suggest you fix your understanding of Secularism. It is one of the most complex English word. I hope you will stop your 'secular' bogey.
Few slaps is still a 'slight' emotion in comparison to be-heading. as your brothers have been doing for past few thousand years (only). You don't need to be an expert of 'theory of relativity' to comprehend this.
Also, imagine a Hindu comic in India making fun of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), will you still defend Hindu comic's right of free speech because India is a 'secular' state? Answer this question please, I will be mostly interested.
Yes I see you have responded to my post twice, it seems emotion has certainly been stirred whether we can call it secular or religious. I am not sure across both posts what it is you want me to answer? Explanation of secularism or what constitutes violent assault?
Slight emotions would be a protest tweet or holding a placard assuming the country was religious in the first place. Here we are talking about a "secular" nation where religious minorites are brutally assaulted and arrested by the authorities for merely partaking freedom of expression. Please explain?
Fair enough. If Islam cannot be insulted in India , same goes for Hinduism.
Whole heartedly support punishment for anyone who mocks deities. This is a line no one should cross, and if they do, should be prepared for justice.
It’s comedy, if you don’t like it then don’t watch it.
The last thing India wants is a Blasphemy law, a law that’s misused against Pakistani minorities.
I think English may not be your first language. So let me type slowly, so you can understand my question -
Will you defend the right of free speech of a Hindu comic in India if he were to make fun of Prophet Mohammad(PBUH)? India is a 'secular' country, so I think you will not have any problem. Right?
If you need to mock sacred figures and religious deities to get some laughs in your comedy show then its probably time to rethink your career.
Religious figures should not be spoken about in an offensive manner.
What are your views on Blasphemy laws?
Ok so how many were beaten and put behind the bars for insulting/mocking Islam in India?![]()
If you need to mock sacred figures and religious deities to get some laughs in your comedy show then its probably time to rethink your career.
Religious figures should not be spoken about in an offensive manner.
People insulting or mocking Islam usually get killed, and not put behind bars, as the Bangalore riots and Kamlesh Tiwari incidents show.![]()
If Pakistan is going to have them, then they need to clean up the police, media and law enforcement agencies otherwise remove all reference to religion from the statutes.
All of them get killed?![]()
Will you defend the right of free speech of a Hindu comic in India if he were to make fun of Prophet Mohammad(PBUH)?
Try making a laugh out of 9/11, Holocaust, or even disabled people. Lets see how hard you'll laugh.
This is not about Islamic counties , it’s about India, this is a massive mess.
Religion is the worst thing that has happened to South Asia; China, Russia are so lucky they got rid of it, even the communists in India are useless.
Nobody is going to get arrested or beheaded for any of those topics .. holocaust being the stupid
exception.
This is not about Islamic counties , it’s about India, this is a massive mess.
Religion is the worst thing that has happened to South Asia; China, Russia are so lucky they got rid of it, even the communists in India are useless.
the communists in India are useless.
Not in India, but try in USA or UK where free 'speech' is promoted as the beacon of civilisation in the West.
This is not about Islamic counties , it’s about India, this is a massive mess.
Religion is the worst thing that has happened to South Asia; China, Russia are so lucky they got rid of it, even the communists in India are useless.
Lies. I don't remember a single case of someone being arrested in the UK or US for controversial views on 9/11, disabled folk or holocaust.
Sigh, why can't people learn to ignore? If you don't like that comedian or find his shows offensive, don't attend the show, don't watch the video, why give unnecessary coverage? Idiotic priorities for a country/society plagued with serious problems adversely affecting daily life.
Shame on MP police and people who are finding ways to justify the arrest. Clampdown on cartoonists, comedians, peaceful protesters, what a democracy!!!
Who here has heard of Michael McIntyre?
He is the most succesful comedian on the planet.
His comedy standups do not include profanity, it's clean, family friendly, and his topics never include religion, politics, etc. Just everyday experiences turned into laughter.
He is succesful because he's proven you don't need to mock religion/politics for the giggles.
Can you read English?
I said 'try' mocking 9/11 or the Holocaust in the West as a comedian.
Nothing about controversial views.
Go back to school you grade C troll.
Lies. I don't remember a single case of someone being arrested in the UK or US for controversial views on 9/11, disabled folk or holocaust.
More lies. Even if you mock those subjects in the US/UK, you won't get arrested. Stop spouting bakwas on here.
More lies. Even if you mock those subjects in the US/UK, you won't get arrested. Stop spouting bakwas on here.
You don't live in the West. Stop pretending you do. You have no idea.
No one said anything about being arrested.
Go put words in someone elses mouth because the only freedom you have is behind an alias on a forum, or go lynching.
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You don't live in the West. Stop pretending you do. You have no idea.
No one said anything about being arrested.
Go put words in someone elses mouth because the only freedom you have is behind an alias on a forum, or go lynching.
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More lies. Even if you mock those subjects in the US/UK, you won't get arrested. Stop spouting bakwas on here.
Lol) jaffa at the end
Not really. I don’t think all Muslim countries have a blasphemy law embedded in them. It just feels that it is an unwritten rule like love your kids or respect your parents or be nice to others kind of thing where you need to respect others religious sentiments. May be this is me living in secular democracies all
My life talking and May be I don’t understand how states founded on religious incompatibility deal with it. I don’t think God or men who are enlightened beings or prophets are that insensitive that they care for what people think of them anyways.
Now coming to this comedian, I see black comedians make fun of other races but they do point out social issues as well, goes for every good
Comic, I don’t mean equivalence for the sake of it.
Also I wonder how it would have turned out for this comedian had he insulted islamic practices being a Muslim. Last time an Indian author wrote a book, that had some cryptic message criticizing his religion, he became an international refugee, banned in his own country which is supposedly secular.
Anyways either this is going to go all over your head or you are going to nod in affirmative but then go back to the same argument again, so it is futile, but hey give me credit for trying as we probably have been here before.
He’s not even the most successful comedian in UK.
Frankie Boyle is what you call a comedian. He mocks everything and everyone. And I’m sure most people would go to his show over Mcintyres
Cpt. is a hardcore blasphemy enthusiast who said Samuel Paty deserved what he got. You shouldn't be surprised by his views, tis not much different from that of Anjem Choudary.
I thought MM was highest grossing ever?
I have seen comedians make fun of 9/11 but not from a political, religious aspect or even make fun of the dead. It drew groans from the crowd but that’s about it.
Holocaust will have a different impact though, I think Megan Fox called someone a Jew or
Something and her career was done and many such instances in Hollywood where careers were destroyed for Anti Semitic statements that don’t look very serious in some cases. It’s still not acceptable though.
On the other hand we have made satirical movies like OMG and PK block buster hits even though they were pushing the envelope and were biased towards one religion.
He canny be ahead of Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle and Kevin Hart. Those guys would sell out shows in every continent. And I doubt many Americans have heard of MM
Take a chill pillYes Jaffas usually miss edges, he should have gone with beheading, now that would be that banana reverse inswinging yorker.
Read the article again. She wasn't arrested for mocking the holocaust, she was convicted for using white supremacist symbols that mock Jewish people aka antisemitism. The UK has hate speeh laws.
Quickly turning into a Hindu version of Pakistan.
Quickly turning into a Hindu version of Pakistan.
I agree, which is why I once again extend my sincere invitation for hindus to accept Islam en masse, they are moving that way anyway. Why enjoin division when unity would bring peace and harmony?
Speaking of unity, Your post may troll a few, offend a few, amuse a few and a lot may ignore it as well but one thing though it may unify their thought in their head, “Dude are you a...”The politically correct word for it is mentally challenged” ,regardless of what they feel.
Any way sincere advise: not every random thought should be posted online![]()
impersonate and laugh at politicians, opposition parties, police, army, mullahs, foreign celebs etc etc. That includes IK or Zardari or Shareefs etc.
Which of these are religious deities?
Don't be so naive, but if you really believe that this guy was arrested for this reason then so be it.
If you haven't noticed already - no one is be-headed yet. I think hindus are also allowed to show slight emotions.
On the nail.
There is absolutely no need to insult religious figures. Good comedy is possible even without bringing religion in.
Agree too. However the issue here is hypocrisy. When the same was happening with Muslims, many of the same people having issues today were calling for freedom of speech
I haven’t watched the routine so I don’t know what he said exactly but why the need to attack someone’s religion? What do people hope to achieve by doing that?