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Some good points by ML - basically something we have known so maybe a better test for Pakistan will be in the upcoming games?
Are we being too harsh on Pakistan?
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[VIDEO] "It's a big advantage for us when you are playing a sub-continental team on such a bouncy surface [Perth]": Marnus Labuschagne
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Some good points by ML - basically something we have known so maybe a better test for Pakistan will be in the upcoming games?
Are we being too harsh on Pakistan?
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Yes, it will be easier in the next two games. Last one should be easiest.
Yes. I think people are overreacting. Pakistani test bowling is absolute garbage. But batting will do well. They almost matched Aus in terms of overs in first innings despite complete failure of middle order.
I really feel Pakistan has the batting to secure draws in next 2 games.
You can't judge anyone on Perth last innings batting.India had very experienced batting line up in 2018 and they were bowled out for 130. And they dominated Australia in all 3 matches after that.
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Perth was always going to be most difficult. It is not only Pakistan that struggle there. The variable bounce and pace is troubling for sub continent batters. That's why I believe if the team can string up a good bowling attack and play positively then they have a chance of being competitive in the 2nd and 3rd Test.
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That why India victory at Perth during 2007 -08 tour was so special. india lost that series due to Pathetic Umpiring
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But you still should be able to match the opposition in one department. Cannot have a blow out scenario in both departments.
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Here is an important piece of information. Australia did not hold any matches at Perth against Pakistan between 83 and 99.
I wonder if they were wary of Pakistan's superior quick bowling during those years and avoided playing us there.
I wonder if they were wary of Pakistan's superior quick bowling during those years and avoided playing us there.
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If any team they would have wanted to avoid playing at Perth that would have been West Indies with their tall hit the deck gianst like Ambrose/Walsh/Bishop. They prefer Adelaide oval, Gabba, MCG, SCG more. Perth features mostly in a 5 test series. India has played only 4 times there. Pakistan 5 times.
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Team/Decade | 1970s | 1980s | 1990s | 2000s | 2010s | 2020s |
England | 28.47 | 35.58 | 35.01 | 50.05 | 39.94 | 34.68 |
India | 27.70 | 33.28 | 36.60 | 46.50 | 41.08 | 29.96 |
NZ | 36.63 | 32.02 | 58.52 | 50.80 | 40.26 | 54.91 |
Pakistan | 39.59 | 45.09 | 36.69 | 51.81 | 56.03 | 46.06 |
SA | | | 33.27 | 42.89 | 34.46 | 50.84 |
West Indies | 36.62 | 27.01 | 30.78 | 46.37 | 122.16 | 81.22 |
Pakistan has historically poorer numbers in Australia.
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I find these comments funny and how fans react to them.
Pakistani fans tend to show admiration towards SENA. If a SENA team boost about home advantage, we dont mind that. But if a subcontinent team boost about home conditions that player is made fun of being a home track bully.
The statement made by Labushagne is same. He is boosting about home track advantage. Same opposition strugles on spinning tracks.
Pakistani fans tend to show admiration towards SENA. If a SENA team boost about home advantage, we dont mind that. But if a subcontinent team boost about home conditions that player is made fun of being a home track bully.
The statement made by Labushagne is same. He is boosting about home track advantage. Same opposition strugles on spinning tracks.
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Pakistan misses a bowler like Saqlain Mushtaq who was pretty good in the 90s with the support of Mushtaq.
In fact this Aus team is the biggest home track bully. In all away series in last 4-5 years they have only won in Pakistan that too very narrowly.
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Even in home tracks on challenging pitches they were not comfortable. There was this hobart test where Philander and Abbott wreaked havoc and SA won by an innings.
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If that was true they wouldn't have played the WI at Perth and they wouldn't have played Pakistan at Perth in 1999 when Shoaib was at his fastest.
In the Perth Test he did absolutely nothing and went for 4.6 runs an over, once again proving that he was a nothing bowler and his reputation and hype was always far greater than his bowling.
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and won a world cup in india.
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Wonder if the Optus pitch will get an ICC sanction?
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Perth pitch curators are under fire after the first Test ended in a hurry on day four.
Australia stormed to a 360-run victory after Pakistan crumbled in the same fashion that the Optus Stadium deck fell apart.
Batsmen on both teams faced challenging batting conditions with new photos exposing just how unsafe the wicket became on the final dat of play.
Australian cricket great Ian Healy said on Monday the “volatile” pitch needs to be fixed — or the First Test of the summer should return to the Gabba.
Poor crowds and an extreme amount of deterioration which even surprised the touring Pakistan team has cast doubt over whether Optus Stadium should again be given hosting rights, NCA NewsWire reports.
A staggering 18 wickets fell on the fourth day, after just 12 across the opening two days, with Pakistan rolled for just 89 in the second innings as all batters, even the Australian’s struggled with the variable bounce and sideways movement.
Marnus Labuschagne was hit on the finger and sent for scans, and Steve Smith copped a nasty blow late on day three before Usman Khawaja was also hit on the arm and Mitch Marsh was struck on the helmet twice as he bashed his way past 50 before Australia declared at 5/233.
Fox Cricket showed just how impossible it was for batters with Muhammad Shahzad able to rattle the Aussie batters with a short ball barrage despite bowling at less than 130km/h.
Fox Cricket showed the variation in bounce from Shahzad pitching short balls in similar spots was a nightmare for batters with some balls climbing up to 1.9m high while others skidded into batsmen at just 1.35m high.
The sight wasn’t good enough in the eyes of Aussie cricket great Simon O’Donnell.
“I’m interested to see what the ICC says,” O’Donnell said on SEN Breakfast on Monday morning.
“I think that was too worn and too unpredictable for a day four pitch. When you say television camera honing in on certain areas, I thought, ‘gee whiz, day four and we’ve got that’?
“I’m not even sure if it was equipped for day five.”
The Optus Stadium pitch was criticised last summer for being a batters’ paradise — the changes for 2023 appear t have been an over-correction.
“Balls keeping low, I say that’s just mother nature having its way. When balls are dangerous, that’s my problem. I have no problem with a ball lifting out of the norm but not lifting to the extent of one or two feet,” O’Donnell said.
“When you see a world-class batsman in Mitch Marsh get hit twice on the helmet by a guy bowling 123 kilometres an hour… I don’t think that’s acceptable.”
While happy to take another victory for the Aussies at the new ground, which some have suggested could become the home team’s new fortress, even captain Pat Cummins conceded it was a “ probably a bit more challenging” than both teams would have liked.
“It probably broke up, today in particular, a lot more than I thought it would. There were big cracks and there was a bit more up and down than I was expecting,” he said after the swift conclusion on day four.
“But overall I thought it was a good wicket … It’s probably a bit more (challenging) than you ideally want for a day-four wicket.”
Former Test keeper Healy pointed to preparation issues and with his Queensland hat on suggested the Gabba, where Australia has traditionally begun the home summer and with great success, could be a better option.
“I think it’s a little bit volatile, quite a risky pitch,” he told SEN.
“Even though it was moist and green on day one they have real trouble keeping that moisture in the pitch then it cracks up way too early, on day three, the Aussies were having trouble, up and down bounce, and hitting the body.
“When you hear batsmen say you need a little bit of luck and take a few on the body and you might get through, that is day five stuff. I think they’ve got to find a way to retain moisture in that pitch it’s a more trustworthy surface.
“I think the Gabba is the most trustworthy surface you can start a season on. It bounces, it seams, it can swing and the spinners can bowl OK on and it and the batsmen make runs on it. I think Perth was a little too volatile for everyone’s liking. “
Pakistan coach Mohammad Hafeez wasn’t happy with how quickly the wicket became challenging.
“The amount of deterioration we witnessed, I wasn’t expecting that much because on the fourth day the deterioration in the pitch was really high,” he said.
“We believe it was a good toss to the win for Australia. They managed to put runs on the board and then obviously batting in the fourth innings and on the fourth and fifth day is going to be a real challenge and we couldn’t do that, to be honest.”
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Perth pitch curators are under fire after the first Test ended in a hurry on day four.
Australia stormed to a 360-run victory after Pakistan crumbled in the same fashion that the Optus Stadium deck fell apart.
Batsmen on both teams faced challenging batting conditions with new photos exposing just how unsafe the wicket became on the final dat of play.
Australian cricket great Ian Healy said on Monday the “volatile” pitch needs to be fixed — or the First Test of the summer should return to the Gabba.
Poor crowds and an extreme amount of deterioration which even surprised the touring Pakistan team has cast doubt over whether Optus Stadium should again be given hosting rights, NCA NewsWire reports.
A staggering 18 wickets fell on the fourth day, after just 12 across the opening two days, with Pakistan rolled for just 89 in the second innings as all batters, even the Australian’s struggled with the variable bounce and sideways movement.
Marnus Labuschagne was hit on the finger and sent for scans, and Steve Smith copped a nasty blow late on day three before Usman Khawaja was also hit on the arm and Mitch Marsh was struck on the helmet twice as he bashed his way past 50 before Australia declared at 5/233.
Fox Cricket showed just how impossible it was for batters with Muhammad Shahzad able to rattle the Aussie batters with a short ball barrage despite bowling at less than 130km/h.
Fox Cricket showed the variation in bounce from Shahzad pitching short balls in similar spots was a nightmare for batters with some balls climbing up to 1.9m high while others skidded into batsmen at just 1.35m high.
The sight wasn’t good enough in the eyes of Aussie cricket great Simon O’Donnell.
“I’m interested to see what the ICC says,” O’Donnell said on SEN Breakfast on Monday morning.
“I think that was too worn and too unpredictable for a day four pitch. When you say television camera honing in on certain areas, I thought, ‘gee whiz, day four and we’ve got that’?
“I’m not even sure if it was equipped for day five.”
The Optus Stadium pitch was criticised last summer for being a batters’ paradise — the changes for 2023 appear t have been an over-correction.
“Balls keeping low, I say that’s just mother nature having its way. When balls are dangerous, that’s my problem. I have no problem with a ball lifting out of the norm but not lifting to the extent of one or two feet,” O’Donnell said.
“When you see a world-class batsman in Mitch Marsh get hit twice on the helmet by a guy bowling 123 kilometres an hour… I don’t think that’s acceptable.”
While happy to take another victory for the Aussies at the new ground, which some have suggested could become the home team’s new fortress, even captain Pat Cummins conceded it was a “ probably a bit more challenging” than both teams would have liked.
“It probably broke up, today in particular, a lot more than I thought it would. There were big cracks and there was a bit more up and down than I was expecting,” he said after the swift conclusion on day four.
“But overall I thought it was a good wicket … It’s probably a bit more (challenging) than you ideally want for a day-four wicket.”
Former Test keeper Healy pointed to preparation issues and with his Queensland hat on suggested the Gabba, where Australia has traditionally begun the home summer and with great success, could be a better option.
“I think it’s a little bit volatile, quite a risky pitch,” he told SEN.
“Even though it was moist and green on day one they have real trouble keeping that moisture in the pitch then it cracks up way too early, on day three, the Aussies were having trouble, up and down bounce, and hitting the body.
“When you hear batsmen say you need a little bit of luck and take a few on the body and you might get through, that is day five stuff. I think they’ve got to find a way to retain moisture in that pitch it’s a more trustworthy surface.
“I think the Gabba is the most trustworthy surface you can start a season on. It bounces, it seams, it can swing and the spinners can bowl OK on and it and the batsmen make runs on it. I think Perth was a little too volatile for everyone’s liking. “
Pakistan coach Mohammad Hafeez wasn’t happy with how quickly the wicket became challenging.
“The amount of deterioration we witnessed, I wasn’t expecting that much because on the fourth day the deterioration in the pitch was really high,” he said.
“We believe it was a good toss to the win for Australia. They managed to put runs on the board and then obviously batting in the fourth innings and on the fourth and fifth day is going to be a real challenge and we couldn’t do that, to be honest.”
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I am fine with this pitch and also fine with rank turners.
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Pitches breaking up on day 4/day 5 at Perth has been the norm for years and years. The cracks were nowhere near as big as some of the WACA pitches of the past.
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India is also the same Asian side that takes massive advantage of playing on such bouncy tracks and performs reall well so why can't other Asian teams play like them?
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