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[VIDEO] Mir Hamza - How good is he?

ahmedwaqas92 said:
No matter how good a bowler is, if he bowls without a strategy or direction then he's gonna get phantified left, right and center and I believe that was the case with NZ bowlers - they have no direction or plan to their bowling unit.

Miro under the wing of Amir, an extremely clever bowler himself, and other experience players such and Misbah and YK would be given a proper role and direction which could help him churn out performances better than the NZ bowlers.
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See Apart from Mohammad Asif who also does not have a very good test record in England the only pacers who have impressed on flat surfaces were Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Imran, Zahid, Wahab (2,3 tests), Sami (3 tests) & Abdul Razzaq when he was capable of bowling between 137 to 148 kph for a short period.

So we better look at our hostory aswell.


Mir Hamza is good enough to play test cricket for Pakistan in Srilanka (Kandy), South Africa, England, India (Kolkata) Pakistan if Int Cricket resumes at Home someday.

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ahmedwaqas92 said:
Clearly I am way up past bed time it's almost 2:00 am right now..... Cognitive functions are slowing down for the days. :D

On topic it's good that Miro is stepping up into international cricket with good performances in A tours. An added fast bowler to the existing talented line up would be more than welcoming. However, since we already have a vast band of existing left arm bowlers what Pakistan needs more is for Hassan or Amad Butt to develop quickly and stake their claim in internationals.
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How many of those are any good? I know of only one currently capped.
 
New Yorker said:
How many of those are any good? I know of only one currently capped.
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I know you're pointing towards Sadaf but even franchises are not interested in him so I guess there is something definitely wrong there; I don't know what it is but it might be something that practically keeping him out of the spotlight.

Rahat is a pretty decent left arm quick with a good enough skill set for test cricket and not too long ago we had a firing Junaid khan and an in form Irfan as well so yeah selections were pretty accurate back then. The only bloke who's been on and off is Wahab.




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Mir Hamza took four more wickets last night. Why can't he crack in the int'l side.
Has anyone seen him bowl live, can he move the ball, does he have pace...19avg in First Class in Pakistan. You can't have those numbers on flat tracks of Pakistan unless you got something.

Or am i missing something here?
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
See Apart from Mohammad Asif who also does not have a very good test record in England the only pacers who have impressed on flat surfaces were Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Imran, Zahid, Wahab (2,3 tests), Sami (3 tests) & Abdul Razzaq when he was capable of bowling between 137 to 148 kph for a short period.

So we better look at our hostory aswell.


Mir Hamza is good enough to play test cricket for Pakistan in Srilanka (Kandy), South Africa, England, India (Kolkata) Pakistan if Int Cricket resumes at Home someday.

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Imran Khan as well.
 
I hope its not Sohail Tanvir pace(high 120's to low 130's).
Anwar Ali used to be in the low to mid 80's. But rework in his action he lost his swing and pace.
Junaid Khan used to be low 80's. Got up to high 80's(was dominant for few series) then got injured and was back to low 80's.

At int'l level you gotta be be able to hit 85mph. Mir Hamza can't crack that?
 
Sadaf hussain plz bring him averages 18_19 tall guy swing it both way
 
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ZoabKhan said:
I hope its not Sohail Tanvir pace(high 120's to low 130's).
Anwar Ali used to be in the low to mid 80's. But rework in his action he lost his swing and pace.
Junaid Khan used to be low 80's. Got up to high 80's(was dominant for few series) then got injured and was back to low 80's.

At int'l level you gotta be be able to hit 85mph. Mir Hamza can't crack that?
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It's like this, brother.
 
So listen everyone talking about Imran Khan. Imran Khan came to bradford and played for undercliff . As my brother was playing for their 2nd team i went to see him. Good guy had a nice laugh with him. He got hammered in most of the matches.
According to his speed he bowles 135-140 dosnt swing it alot. But that was than in 2012 .
Now to be honest i havent seen him play alot i dont think of him international level but if he works more harder he can be come international level.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
I know you're pointing towards Sadaf but even franchises are not interested in him so I guess there is something definitely wrong there; I don't know what it is but it might be something that practically keeping him out of the spotlight.

Rahat is a pretty decent left arm quick with a good enough skill set for test cricket and not too long ago we had a firing Junaid khan and an in form Irfan as well so yeah selections were pretty accurate back then. The only bloke who's been on and off is Wahab.




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No I meant Amir, he's the only one now. You are now not looking at a left arm quick garden of plenty in Pakistan, but a tangle of stunted weeds. The task for now is simple. Just find a good bowler, left arm right arm or front toe.

Rahat averages 35 after 15 Tests, and you think him good enough for Test cricket? Sadaf averages 18 in FC cricket with 10fers galore, has been man of the series in two A tours, has been selected for the ODI team, just not picked by the coach at the time, and we know a PCB big wig has it in for him, yet you assume that he does not even deserve a look-in?
 
According to Saj he was bowling somewhere around 135 kph and the commentators at that particular game were praising Mir's pace.
 
New Yorker said:
No I meant Amir, he's the only one now. You are now not looking at a left arm quick garden of plenty in Pakistan, but a tangle of stunted weeds. The task for now is simple. Just find a good bowler, left arm right arm or front toe.

Rahat averages 35 after 15 Tests, and you think him good enough for Test cricket? Sadaf averages 18 in FC cricket with 10fers galore, has been man of the series in two A tours, has been selected for the ODI team, just not picked by the coach at the time, and we know a PCB big wig has it in for him, yet you assume that he does not even deserve a look-in?
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While pointing out something must be wrong with sadaf , people seem to forget that this guy has performed in A tours and man of series in two so its pretty clear that the guy has done well outside of Pakistan domestic cricket against the best opposition he could play against.
 
If he just can add extra 5kph then he will as deadly as M.Amir because he got more movement and also both ways.
 
shah_1 said:
Samaj nahi hai is post kee?
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Fazeela was interviewing him and He said that I have increased my pace in last few months while he is bowling at the same pace of 128 to 135 kph range. Anyone who saw him in last domestic televised tournament he played would second me.


And Fazeela was Pumping him and his form as if He is knocking on the doors.
 
Mir Hamza has completed 200 Fc wickets in his 44th match with a fivefer.

He now has 19 fivefers and 4 tenfers.
 
This guys is the poor man's Anwar Ali. Don't think I've seen a more limited bowler in PSL yet. Who bowls length in 20th over?
 
RickyG said:
This guys is the poor man's Anwar Ali. Don't think I've seen a more limited bowler in PSL yet. Who bowls length in 20th over?
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he is new ball specialist and is very good in longer format if there is some thing in the pitch for the

bowlers .English county were keen to select him but our Board did not give him premission

he was exceptional with pak A in england
 
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He's just not a limited overs bowler. A very good test bowler though. PSL is not the place to judge him.
 
keep him away from t20 format.. it will only deteriorate his confidence. nothing very special of what i saw tbh.
 
Hawkeye said:
No.

He's a bowler of grays or dukes ball, on a green wicket with still air.

Nothing to offer apart from that.
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Might it be unfair to judge him on that track yesterday? From what I've seen he's a swing bowler, and none of the pace bowlers were getting any swing yesterday, even with the new ball.
 
Well how good is he ?

Good enough to be picked for the Test squad it appears. Surprised as I thought his style of bowling wouldn't be suited to UAE conditions.
 
Markhor said:
Well how good is he ?

Good enough to be picked for the Test squad it appears. Surprised as I thought his style of bowling wouldn't be suited to UAE conditions.
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Deserves to be there, but yes, don't know how he would perform in the UAE. Didn't he take 4 wickets versus England in a side match a couple years back?
 
Very happy that he is now on the fringes of the Pakistan test set up. His selection is one on merit. First Class bowling average is less than 20 which is phenomenal
 
I think he maybe more suited to seam bowling friendly conditions which the UAE isn't.
 
Krl knocked out of tournament while Mir Hamza has 2 more matches to impress selectors again. (Both matches will most likely be televised)


Uptil


Mir Hamza 6 matches 11 wickets.

Sadaf Hussain 7 matches 18 wickets.


[MENTION=139754]New Yorker[/MENTION] [MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION]
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Krl knocked out of tournament while Mir Hamza has 2 more matches to impress selectors again. (Both matches will most likely be televised)


Uptil


Mir Hamza 6 matches 11 wickets.

Sadaf Hussain 7 matches 18 wickets.



[MENTION=139754]New Yorker[/MENTION] [MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION]
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I Think he is an improved bowler after few weeks with azhar in that UAE tour but i still think he is more of a test bowler when conditions are favourable for swing and seam?
 
I don't think he is good enough but can't be worse than rumman trundler raees.PSL is coming up so we will have a better look at him.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Krl knocked out of tournament while Mir Hamza has 2 more matches to impress selectors again. (Both matches will most likely be televised)


Uptil


Mir Hamza 6 matches 11 wickets.

Sadaf Hussain 7 matches 18 wickets.



[MENTION=139754]New Yorker[/MENTION] [MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION]
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Sadaf should be ahed of him in the selection order if the selectors have their wits about them. Hamza may be becoming a better ODI bowler, but he has not been consistent in this format for as long as Sadaf. Meanwhile, Grant Flower was talking about the difficulty of riding the bounce in NZ. Sadaf is Pakistani domestic cricket's tallest top performing bowler after Irfan. I recall watching a cricket instruction talk by McGrath and all he was talking about was the importance of getting bounce. But we still have muppets on this board for whom the only selection criterion should be pace.
 
Mir Hamza 6-42 against FATA Region today.

Can he find a spot in Pakistan's Test Squad?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mir Hamza's 6 wickets for NBP against FATA Region <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QeaTrophy?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QeaTrophy</a> <a href="https://t.co/5vQylJK0rX">pic.twitter.com/5vQylJK0rX</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1036873454098829312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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They need to replace that swingless wonder Rahat Ali with Mir Hamza. The guy averages 18 in FC. It's ridiculous he hasn't played a test for Pakistan.
 
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