[VIDEO] No fight, no aggression - this isn't what Pakistan cricket fans deserve

[Cricket Warrior]

Pakistan's lacklustre batting approach against Afghanistan, Pakistan's continued flawed tactics with the bat, selfish attitude of Pakistan's top-order batters, the lack of wickets in the bowling powerplay, Pakistan's spinners struggles, are Pakistan's players fit enough, the abysmal fielding throughout the World Cup, wasted reviews again and again, the lack of game-awareness, poor body language once again from Pakistan, are the rumours of in-fighting true, Babar Azam's captaincy struggles, 4 must-win matches left for Pakistan.

 

[I think therfore I am]

Pakistan's lacklustre batting approach against Afghanistan, Pakistan's continued flawed tactics with the bat, selfish attitude of Pakistan's top-order batters, the lack of wickets in the bowling powerplay, Pakistan's spinners struggles, are Pakistan's players fit enough, the abysmal fielding throughout the World Cup, wasted reviews again and again, the lack of game-awareness, poor body language once again from Pakistan, are the rumours of in-fighting true, Babar Azam's captaincy struggles, 4 must-win matches left for Pakistan.

I said this before and say it again. The definition of Insanity is the Pakistan cricket team.

They repeat the same mistakes by playing the same crap players, after being humiliated in the Asia cup and hope for a different result, in the world cup.

What dunce told them not to put Imad, Saim, Amir, Zaman or Abrar in the squad.

To make matter works Shan Masood is being prepared to become captain

 

[FearlessRoar]

I am saying this from the start of world cup. PCT is lacking fire and intend.

 

[hass]

Really don’t think the batting can be at fault for yesterday whatsoever.

Their bowling was absolutely very threatening on that surface. The score and approach there was excellent. The second they tried anything else they got out. Laying the platform for Shadab and Iftikhar was absolutely the right move. Think your criticism on this is completely wrong.

We would have been skittled out for 200 if we kept trying what Rizwan did. Ifti’s job was made very easy BECAUSE of the platform laid out for him. He struggled for his first 8/9 balls.

The game was lost because the bowlers and the captain and our fielding are absolutely disgraceful. Even 320 was not defendable with bowling and fielding like that.

The batting shouldn’t even be mentioned for yesterday.

 

[Savak]

Really don’t think the batting can be at fault for yesterday whatsoever.

Their bowling was absolutely very threatening on that surface. The score and approach there was excellent. The second they tried anything else they got out. Laying the platform for Shadab and Iftikhar was absolutely the right move. Think your criticism on this is completely wrong.

We would have been skittled out for 200 if we kept trying what Rizwan did. Ifti’s job was made very easy BECAUSE of the platform laid out for him. He struggled for his first 8/9 balls.

The game was lost because the bowlers and the captain and our fielding are absolutely disgraceful. Even 320 was not defendable with bowling and fielding like that.

The batting shouldn’t even be mentioned for yesterday.

Totally agree, our bowling is what has let us down badly in this WC. The Indian pitches are not conducive for the fast bowlers but because we lack proper impact spinners in the middle overs, the pressure on the likes of Shaheen, Hassan Ali and Rauf gets multiplied because if these guys don't take wickets then for 20 overs Pakistan has nothing to work with to trouble the opposition.

 

[hass]

Totally agree, our bowling is what has let us down badly in this WC. The Indian pitches are not conducive for the fast bowlers but because we lack proper impact spinners in the middle overs, the pressure on the likes of Shaheen, Hassan Ali and Rauf gets multiplied because if these guys don't take wickets then for 20 overs Pakistan has nothing to work with to trouble the opposition.

The irony is that an average bozo like Faheem Ashraf would have been infinitely more ideal on these surfaces than who we brought. Abrar, Zaman, Imad and maybe Dahani would have been more suited than many of the players picked for the tournament. The selectors had absolutely no clue about the conditions in India. And tbh the execution and width on offer in every game has been appalling.

These pitches are perfect for wicket to wicket bowling. We don’t have any of that in this team. Hassan Ali closest to it yet he bowls so much rubbish and gives a stupid amount of width. His CT 2017 line and length bowling would have been ideal for these tracks.

 

[Cric1234]

Nabi is hardly a threatening bowler that you can’t rotate strike and chip the ball into gaps for 2s and 3s the top 3 strike rates were awful considering it was a must win match 77 77 and 80 on a 300 par score wicket you’d rather be 250 all out then make an under par score.

The bowling was poor again when your spinners are bowling worse than part timers then not a lot can be done.

 

[deltexas]

Really don’t think the batting can be at fault for yesterday whatsoever.

Their bowling was absolutely very threatening on that surface. The score and approach there was excellent. The second they tried anything else they got out. Laying the platform for Shadab and Iftikhar was absolutely the right move. Think your criticism on this is completely wrong.

We would have been skittled out for 200 if we kept trying what Rizwan did. Ifti’s job was made very easy BECAUSE of the platform laid out for him. He struggled for his first 8/9 balls.

The game was lost because the bowlers and the captain and our fielding are absolutely disgraceful. Even 320 was not defendable with bowling and fielding like that.

The batting shouldn’t even be mentioned for yesterday.

Totally absolutely agree. Batting cannot be faulted at all honestly in any game except the Ind one. No team is chasing 370 against Aus and in a WC. Horrible to concede that many runs irrespective of Warner's dropped catch. Ind dropped 3 catches against NZ but still put those behind and bowled really well and restricted NZ. 300 plus chases are very tough in WCs with the added pressure and Ind has chased only 270 highest this WC and nothing close to 350 and that's because their bowling attack is restricting other teams to below 300. Pak chased 345 against SL which is still not easy even though SL bowlers were not at their best especially after being some 40 odd for 3 down..
And the Afg game - 280 was a very good total on that track. I was surprised- at no point in the Afg chase did it look like Pak bowling could even take a wicket.. it just looked so inevitable with that bowling it was pathetic. Yes you can debate field placings etc but bottom line was that the bowling was very atrocious. No outside edges beaten no consistency- you cant blame the captain all the time if you cant bowl 2 consecutive decent balls. Shadab and Mir were spray guns and Hasan Ali is very mediocre. Their selections itself is a different matter but once selected you got to be atleast half decent.
For all the jokes on Iftikhar regarding his age and having limited talent which I find rude and condescending- he's the best spinner amongst the others in the squad and he's a way better hitter than Shadab or nawaz with a way better intent and attitude than the others half his age...

 

[mominsaigol]

What's funny is that, my grandad who doesn't even watch cricket much and doesn't have a solid understanding of the game, took one look at Pakistan vs Afghanistan before the afg Innings even started he said that Pakistan will lose badly, just look at their faces, Zero confidence.

And he was right. Literally non cricket experts can take one look at our team and just know we are going to lose.

Let's be honest, Pakistan had already given up against afghanistan before the 1st ball was even bowled.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Totally agree, our bowling is what has let us down badly in this WC. The Indian pitches are not conducive for the fast bowlers but because we lack proper impact spinners in the middle overs, the pressure on the likes of Shaheen, Hassan Ali and Rauf gets multiplied because if these guys don't take wickets then for 20 overs Pakistan has nothing to work with to trouble the opposition.

You are still missing the point.. and by a whole lot.
Bowling needs a huge cushion of runs. The 90s style batting to target 260-280.. those days are done.
You need to target 350+ minimum.. and if not get 320 to have some chance on most of the ODI pitches around the world.
Just look at the scorecards around the world.. EngvNZ, SAvAus, IndvAus.
The kind of strokeplay, dynamic batting, and risk taking required is completely missing from Pakistan batters.

Why do you think Rohit has changed his approach and he goes hard at the top? He also can accumulate, play risk free cricket as he has the defensive technique and score 10 more centuries. Because he understood that i will no longer work in ODI.
Same for all the teams, Heck Even Gurbaz goes hard at the top.

The batting is the issue. ODIs 90% of the times are now Battathons. You need to bat the opposition out, else no chance.

 

[Afhan Ali]

Shahid Afridi once said that we do not have any talent in the country and he was right. If you look at the domestic competition you will see that all the best bowlers and batters are proven International failure. These boys are the best in the country.

Pakistan's batting approach was not right but they could not change it because they just didn't know how to play with a modern approach nor did they have the talent and skill to play like others.

Pakistan's bowling is mediocre but according to some experts, we are the country of great fast bowlers. Pakistani fast bowlers are not better than SENA and India. Our fast bowlers are on par with Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. We did not produce any quality spinner for many many years ( I will not mention Ajmal)

 

[mominsaigol]

I saw saj's video.

Pakistan's approach is outdated, this is their approach.

Batting first: Pakistan way

Have a set total of 260 to 300 in mind and perform according to those standards.

chasing: Pakistan way

Duck like cowards for 30 overs and hope to chase 170 in the last 20 overs as if its t20 which won't work against even semi decent attacks cause ball is softer, older, wickets are down and fielders are up.

Batting First: SENA and India

Score as much as humanely possible and outbat the opposition as much as you can.

Chasing: SENA and India

Keep up and exceed the established RR constantly bringing it down over and over. Try to finish the game as quickly as possible to improve your own net rr alongside your points on the points table.

 

[NishanKonar]

All this talk of fight & aggression is nonsense

What this Pakistan team is lacking is talent & ability. No amount of fighting spirit & aggression can help you if ur spinners cannot spin the ball or you batsmen cannot hit sixes during PP

 

[Sunzi]

Summed it up perfectly.

Feels like everything I've been posting lately is echoed in your vid.

Utterly hopeless to the point of anger turning into compassion and sympathy for Babar. I'm trying to remove that feeling from my psyche because the performances haven't been good enough.

 

[Ahmed216]

All this talk of fight & aggression is nonsense

What this Pakistan team is lacking is talent & ability. No amount of fighting spirit & aggression can help you if ur spinners cannot spin the ball or you batsmen cannot hit sixes during PP

Less talented teams have shown more fight and discipline in the past.

 

[Abid Z]

You are still missing the point.. and by a whole lot.
Bowling needs a huge cushion of runs. The 90s style batting to target 260-280.. those days are done.
You need to target 350+ minimum.. and if not get 320 to have some chance on most of the ODI pitches around the world.
Just look at the scorecards around the world.. EngvNZ, SAvAus, IndvAus.
The kind of strokeplay, dynamic batting, and risk taking required is completely missing from Pakistan batters.

Why do you think Rohit has changed his approach and he goes hard at the top? He also can accumulate, play risk free cricket as he has the defensive technique and score 10 more centuries. Because he understood that i will no longer work in ODI.
Same for all the teams, Heck Even Gurbaz goes hard at the top.

The batting is the issue. ODIs 90% of the times are now Battathons. You need to bat the opposition out, else no chance.

I think it’s you who is missing the point. Pak batsmen can go hard and fast. How they get to 300 or 350 is irrelevant they can get there in 1’s or 2’s. The fact is the bowling is dreadful. Even if Pak make 400 it’ll get chased down with overs to spare.

Most teams have brought their A game to the party. Mystery spinners, chinamen bowlers, seamer’s that bowl with pinpoint accuracy. But Pak have brought along passengers who can neither contain nor pick up a wicket. No score the batsmen make will be safe.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

I think it’s you who is missing the point. Pak batsmen can go hard and fast. How they get to 300 or 350 is irrelevant they can get there in 1’s or 2’s. The fact is the bowling is dreadful. Even if Pak make 400 it’ll get chased down with overs to spare.

Most teams have brought their A game to the party. Mystery spinners, chinamen bowlers, seamer’s that bowl with pinpoint accuracy. But Pak have brought along passengers who can neither contain nor pick up a wicket. No score the batsmen make will be safe.

Scoreboard pressure is a thing. Teams are comfortable chasing 300-320. Two new balls, Dew, no Reverse swing, not much spin and flat pitches. What can bowlers do ?
I agree the bowling from Pakistan has been a bit flat, but If Pakistan score 350 consistently, which is a demand on these pitches they will defend it 8/10 times against any side.
260-280 is not defendable at all in India, on most of the pitches. Same goes for pitches all accross the world.
On top of that, fielding, the only controllable factor has been so poor.

I still think the batting needs to target 370 every match and end up around 320+ at minimum.

 

[hass]

Scoreboard pressure is a thing. Teams are comfortable chasing 300-320. Two new balls, Dew, no Reverse swing, not much spin and flat pitches. What can bowlers do ?
I agree the bowling from Pakistan has been a bit flat, but If Pakistan score 350 consistently, which is a demand on these pitches they will defend it 8/10 times against any side.
260-280 is not defendable at all in India, on most of the pitches. Same goes for pitches all accross the world.
On top of that, fielding, the only controllable factor has been so poor.

I still think the batting needs to target 370 every match and end up around 320+ at minimum.

a BIT flat? Bro this bowling has been one of the worst attacks in the tournament. That effort against Afghanistan is arguably one of, if not the worst effort by a Pakistani bowling line up ever seen at a World Cup.

If this batting line up aims for 370 they will not cross 200 that is the limitation of this team against any decent side. They are limited in ability without a doubt. The collapses against India and Australia showed the limitation. Even trying to accelerate against Afghanistan's good bowlers led to immediate wickets.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

a BIT flat? Bro this bowling has been one of the worst attacks in the tournament. That effort against Afghanistan is arguably one of, if not the worst effort by a Pakistani bowling line up ever seen at a World Cup.

If this batting line up aims for 370 they will not cross 200 that is the limitation of this team against any decent side. They are limited in ability without a doubt. The collapses against India and Australia showed the limitation. Even trying to accelerate against Afghanistan's good bowlers led to immediate wickets.

yeah these are areas they need to work on. But the batters need to assess quickly and set the target accordingly. Last match wicket against Afghans was not a 280 wicket. If they had scored 320, I am very sure Afghans would have been under more pressure and panicked.
Currently, the Pakistan batting unit is going with a set pattern of targeting 280 every match, irrespective of conditions.
No proactiveness and no game awareness. Babar/Rizwan/Imam, even Fakhar sitting outside have enough experience to suss out the target score. Not sure why they are lacking in this department? And what is Mickey doing?

 

[Abid Z]

Scoreboard pressure is a thing. Teams are comfortable chasing 300-320. Two new balls, Dew, no Reverse swing, not much spin and flat pitches. What can bowlers do ?
I agree the bowling from Pakistan has been a bit flat, but If Pakistan score 350 consistently, which is a demand on these pitches they will defend it 8/10 times against any side.
260-280 is not defendable at all in India, on most of the pitches. Same goes for pitches all accross the world.
On top of that, fielding, the only controllable factor has been so poor.

I still think the batting needs to target 370 every match and end up around 320+ at minimum.

I think you need to accept one thing. Pakistan batting is and always has been weak and right now in this World Cup the skills on display are not that of a top ranked team. Afghanistan bowled beautifully but Pak batted badly. There is no doubt. 280 should have been 350, heck even 450.

But that was not the primary cause of the loss. The primary cause was awful bowling , spraying it around everywhere, Awful spin, horrible fielding. The rookie noor Ahmed out bowled Shadab and usama.

The way Afghanistan demolished the seam bowlers it was clear that 350 would have easily been overhauled. Scoreboard pressure is only a factor if you can take a couple of quick wickets but everybody can see that if you remain calm in the first few over you can pile on runs later. This Pakistani attack is basically a t20 attack not learning quickly enough how to bowl unerring lengths with in wickets.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Well if you accept something and don't do anything about it, How will improvement happen.
Players in other teams are not some god from heaven, they have practiced/improved there fitness, built a culture of batting.
You need to start somewhere. Why not work on this improvement on batting for next 4-5 years in targetted manner.

I think you need to accept one thing. Pakistan batting is and always has been weak and right now in this World Cup the skills on display are not that of a top ranked team. Afghanistan bowled beautifully but Pak batted badly. There is no doubt. 280 should have been 350, heck even 450.

But that was not the primary cause of the loss. The primary cause was awful bowling , spraying it around everywhere, Awful spin, horrible fielding. The rookie noor Ahmed out bowled Shadab and usama.

The way Afghanistan demolished the seam bowlers it was clear that 350 would have easily been overhauled. Scoreboard pressure is only a factor if you can take a couple of quick wickets but everybody can see that if you remain calm in the first few over you can pile on runs later. This Pakistani attack is basically a t20 attack not learning quickly enough how to bowl unerring lengths with in wickets.

 

[Abid Z]

Well if you accept something and don't do anything about it, How will improvement happen.
Players in other teams are not some god from heaven, they have practiced/improved there fitness, built a culture of batting.
You need to start somewhere. Why not work on this improvement on batting for next 4-5 years in targetted manner.

Ok so to keep it in perspective think of this.
India in the 1990’s had Dravid tendulkar, ganguly and laxman but they never rose in test or odi rankings to no1…why? Because their bowling was mediocre. It improved a little with a couple of decent bowlers in 2000’s but really took off after 2011

Same for Sri Lanka in patches.
Same for England outside England

You can throw the bat around and get to 300-350 like Sri Lanka are doing now but if you don’t take wickets you will never ever compete in a match.

Look at the absolute dross that is being bowled by Pak bowlers spinners and seamers. Full tosses, Half trackers, leg side bowls, half volleys , loose fielding that eases pressure, spinners bowling when ball is reversing..this is awful bowling. Pakistan couldn’t defend 400.

 

[Saj]

At the moment it just does not look like a cohesive unit, a group that wants to play for this skipper, a group that wants to fight for every run and wicket, a group that wants to play for the team.

Yes, many will say they are not good enough, we probably know that. But having said that, they should still be performing better than what they have done at this World Cup so far.

 

[mominsaigol]

At the moment it just does not look like a cohesive unit, a group that wants to play for this skipper, a group that wants to fight for every run and wicket, a group that wants to play for the team.

Yes, many will say they are not good enough, we probably know that. But having said that, they should still be performing better than what they have done at this World Cup so far.

They threw in the towel once India humiliated then in the asia cup.

The team was finished before the cup even started once the high horse of no 1 ranking was exposed.

 

[Savak]

At the moment it just does not look like a cohesive unit, a group that wants to play for this skipper, a group that wants to fight for every run and wicket, a group that wants to play for the team.

Yes, many will say they are not good enough, we probably know that. But having said that, they should still be performing better than what they have done at this World Cup so far.

If a spinner cannot spin the ball, he just cannot deliver no matter how much he wants to fight for his country. Our pacers have tried their best but expecting them to run through teams on the placid Indian tracks was too much, they can at best chip in with a few wickets but they need more support from the spinners.

 

[hass]

I think you need to accept one thing. Pakistan batting is and always has been weak and right now in this World Cup the skills on display are not that of a top ranked team. Afghanistan bowled beautifully but Pak batted badly. There is no doubt. 280 should have been 350, heck even 450.

But that was not the primary cause of the loss. The primary cause was awful bowling , spraying it around everywhere, Awful spin, horrible fielding. The rookie noor Ahmed out bowled Shadab and usama.

The way Afghanistan demolished the seam bowlers it was clear that 350 would have easily been overhauled. Scoreboard pressure is only a factor if you can take a couple of quick wickets but everybody can see that if you remain calm in the first few over you can pile on runs later. This Pakistani attack is basically a t20 attack not learning quickly enough how to bowl unerring lengths with in wickets.

Don't know how anyone can watch that game plus know of Chennai conditions and claim that was a 350-450 wicket. Absurd assessment.

283 was a winning score for any half decent bowling attack against Afghanistan on that surface. It was a bowling, fielding and captaincy display not worthy of even being at the World Cup. If these lot bowled wicket to wicket and had even the slightest quality in the spin this was a routine easy win.

This was an embarassment of the highest order and people are focusing more on the batting. There's such a mad obsession about smacking sixes and getting 400's as though there are no 280 games any more. There are still some grounds for lower scores.

 

[Abid Z]

Don't know how anyone can watch that game plus know of Chennai conditions and claim that was a 350-450 wicket. Absurd assessment.

283 was a winning score for any half decent bowling attack against Afghanistan on that surface. It was a bowling, fielding and captaincy display not worthy of even being at the World Cup. If these lot bowled wicket to wicket and had even the slightest quality in the spin this was a routine easy win.

This was an embarassment of the highest order and people are focusing more on the batting. There's such a mad obsession about smacking sixes and getting 400's as though there are no 280 games any more. There are still some grounds for lower scores.

Totally agree. The disease of t20 cricket demands 6 every other ball expecting 400 plus totals. But if you do conventional ground strikes and go at 6 /7 an over you can still get to 300-340. 280 is absolutely defendable. Just look at Shadab and the rookie noor Ahmed. Chalk and cheese. One bowled amazing deliveries leaving even Rizwan unable to pick them, the other just threw full tosses and half trackers.

 

[Saj]

The ease with how Afghanistan chased down the target, which by the way they could have chased down much sooner, proves that not only were Pakistan's bowlers poor, their fielding was terrible but also that this was not a 280 run wicket.

If Pakistan had shown more aggression, game-awareness and skill they could have batted Afghanistan out of the game by making 300 plus.

 

[ArabKnight]

And he was right. Literally non cricket experts can take one look at our team and just know we are going to lose.

Some people just know we are going to loose before the match even starts—like me.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Half of Pakistan's problems would be solved if they had two half decent spinners in their squad. Babar too should carry some blame for persisting with such poor spinners despite knowing the importance of spin in a world cup in India, look at their successful strategy in 2011. Too much workload on the pacers because of guaranteed 20 overs of buffet spin in the middle overs. Their bowling effort against Afghanistan was a black mark on Pakistan's spin bowling legacy. From Abdul Qadir to Shadab Khan, what a fall.

 

[mominsaigol]

Some people just know we are going to loose before the match even starts—like me.

It depends, in some games its obvious and some games it isn't.

Yes we know we'll likely loose cause analysis wise on paper sa is >>>>>>>>>> Pak.

Bur for those who don't analyse the game and know nothing about it, you can tell on some days.

Like if I had no knowledge in cricket, I'd easily be able to tell that Pakistan was going to lose to Afghanistan mainly because just look at their faces, no confidence lol.

But this isn't evident in every game. NZ vs India both team were beaming with confidence and looking each other dead in the eye.

To know that India had a higher chance of winning you'd need to know the players and the games, a facial analysis wouldn't be enough in that scenario lol.

 

[MenInG]

More of the same in game against South Africa

Unable to bat all 50 overs.

 

[hur rizvi]

Just shows the lack of pride and fight. You are 8 down with 4 overs to go and you are getting out slogging.

bunch of losers

 

[Abid Z]

Half of Pakistan's problems would be solved if they had two half decent spinners in their squad. Babar too should carry some blame for persisting with such poor spinners despite knowing the importance of spin in a world cup in India, look at their successful strategy in 2011. Too much workload on the pacers because of guaranteed 20 overs of buffet spin in the middle overs. Their bowling effort against Afghanistan was a black mark on Pakistan's spin bowling legacy. From Abdul Qadir to Shadab Khan, what a fall.

I think everybody knows this. The problem is there aren’t any decent spinners in Pakistan. The benefit or tragedy of having bio mechanical analysis at home is that most of the off spinners have illegal actions. Saqlain mentioned this a couple of years ago.

Currently bilal Asif seems to be doing ok in the domestic tournament even Abrar Ahmed had a couple of good outings and then nothing. These guys would have to be doing something extraordinary to break into the national setup.

I think there needs to be a proper spin coach and spin bowling camp which is something the Wasim Khan was doing but in the last couple of years both Ramiz and zaka have ended this. I think money has been tight. But we can only wring our hands and wish.

 

[Abid Z]

Just shows the lack of pride and fight. You are 8 down with 4 overs to go and you are getting out slogging.

bunch of losers

It shows the top 6 are awful in getting us to this position rather than the lower order. But yes no match awareness.

 

[hur rizvi]

It shows the top 6 are awful in getting us to this position rather than the lower order. But yes no match awareness.

That's true but once you're 8 down with 4 overs to go, you got to try and bat the overs.

 

[pratiktc]

Every match of this tournament, Pakistan's approach and tactics have been torn apart by their opposition.

It is as if oppositions know that Pakistan doesn't like playing a fast paced match. Openers have come out and struck knockout punches fearlessly against Shaheen and Haris whereas Imam and Shafique have looked to accumulate.

The spinners have been the biggest culprits being smashed and milked at will by all teams.

 

[batandballbattle]

Turned on its head today with plenty of stomach for the fight.
Still we lost but they were in it right to the end

 

[MenInG]

No lessons were learnt from the Afghanistan defeat and we paid the price, again.

 

[Saj]

Every match of this tournament, Pakistan's approach and tactics have been torn apart by their opposition.

It's made easier for the opponents by the fact that there is very little innovation and changes in the tactics.

Pakistan have been predictable, opponents know exactly what their tactics will be and how they will approach the game.

When you are predictable, you are easy to beat.

 

[Bewal Express]

The irony is that an average bozo like Faheem Ashraf would have been infinitely more ideal on these surfaces than who we brought. Abrar, Zaman, Imad and maybe Dahani would have been more suited than many of the players picked for the tournament. The selectors had absolutely no clue about the conditions in India. And tbh the execution and width on offer in every game has been appalling.

These pitches are perfect for wicket to wicket bowling. We don’t have any of that in this team. Hassan Ali closest to it yet he bowls so much rubbish and gives a stupid amount of width. His CT 2017 line and length bowling would have been ideal for these tracks.

Faheem wouldn't be effective in a game with pensioners. Awful bowler

 

[Bewal Express]

It's made easier for the opponents by the fact that there is very little innovation and changes in the tactics.

Pakistan have been predictable, opponents know exactly what their tactics will be and how they will approach the game.

When you are predictable, you are easy to beat.

Unpredictability means taking risks, we are risk averse because failed risking taking could lead to ridicule. A risk well worth taking would have been to put Babar at the top and let him bat the full 50 overs.

 

[hassan918]

Ever since we have included Mohammad Wasim Jr. in the playing XI, our bowling is looking much better and with Fakhar addition today, we also see more aggression in the team. Our spin bowling is still the concern and it won't be a surprise if we see Pakistan playing with 4 fast bowlers in the remaining 2 matches that would also be another aggressive move.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Here on this point, I agree with Gautam Gambhir that now players are too friendly. They should be aggressive on the field. Off the field, they can go out and party.

I miss those days when there was a ton of sledging on the field and fiery rivalries.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

All this talk of fight & aggression is nonsense

What this Pakistan team is lacking is talent & ability. No amount of fighting spirit & aggression can help you if ur spinners cannot spin the ball or you batsmen cannot hit sixes during PP

I believe it goes deeper than that. Pakistan domestic cricket has been plodding along in an amateur fashion for decades, there is not any genuine competition worth the name at grass roots level. You aren't going to produce world class cricketers without professional infrastructure and qualified coaches at local level.

 

[FearlessRoar]

I believe it goes deeper than that. Pakistan domestic cricket has been plodding along in an amateur fashion for decades, there is not any genuine competition worth the name at grass roots level. You aren't going to produce world class cricketers without professional infrastructure and qualified coaches at local level.

Yes, I agree. Same old pitches, same old fashioned coaches, and not even big sponsors along with viewership.

 

[Mamoon]

I disagree with the premise of this thread.

Pakistani fans fully deserve this humiliation for being delusional, for overhyping mediocre players, and for always making excuses and blaming others instead of looking inwards.

The team and the fans mirror each other.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Yes, I agree. Same old pitches, same old fashioned coaches, and not even big sponsors along with viewership.

They won't attract sponsors until they can produce local cricket which catches the imagination of the public. PSL was an attempt to ape the IPL, and it was a step in the right direction, but they also needed to ape the domestic cricket in Bharat which produces the players who act as feeder clubs for the PSL.

It shouldn't be that difficult, cricket is still a popular sport in Pakistan despite the lack of organisation.

 

[NishanKonar]

I believe it goes deeper than that. Pakistan domestic cricket has been plodding along in an amateur fashion for decades, there is not any genuine competition worth the name at grass roots level. You aren't going to produce world class cricketers without professional infrastructure and qualified coaches at local level.

Completely agree

I find it very shocking that many key players like Shadab Khan, Haris Rauf have not played any first class cricket for many years. In India if you are dropped from the national team - you have to go back to ur Ranji team & start playing domestic cricket. even Pujara & Rahane & Ashwin had to go thru the process when they were dropped

BUt in Pakistan its almost like playing domestic cricket is beneath their dignity once they have played for the national team for sometime !