[VIDEO] Pakistan squad being hosted by an Indian host in New Zealand

[ahmedwaqas92]

After the 2nd T20, the Pakistan team made their way to a dinner reception in which they were hosted by an Indian origin family in New Zealand.

Nothing wrong with players having some off time but I am extremely worried on food the boys are willing to consume mid tour. Is there any fitness expert that can validate here on whether this is acceptable diet for a pro athlete?

Thoughts?

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[Gullycricket]

Oo bhai maro mujhe maro.

 

[Junaids]

I'm more worried that the following people are too old to be professional sportsmen:

Azhar Ali
Wahab Riaz
Abid Ali
Yasir Shah
Fawad Alam
Sohail Khan

In terms of the food, I rather hope they all get food poisoning (just bad enough not to be able to play). It's insane that they are even in the squad.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I'm more worried that the following people are too old to be professional sportsmen:

Azhar Ali
Wahab Riaz
Abid Ali
Yasir Shah
Fawad Alam
Sohail Khan

In terms of the food, I rather hope they all get food poisoning (just bad enough not to be able to play). It's insane that they are even in the squad.

The guy scored a 139 upon which we just won an FC game in NZ. The rest, I somewhat agree with.

 

[aloo paratha]

Moderation is key. One cheat meal will not kill them, even if it's mid tour.

 

[Junaids]

The guy scored a 139 upon which we just won an FC game in NZ. The rest, I somewhat agree with.

I feel really sorry for Fawad Alam. He clearly should have played dozens of Tests between 2010 and 2017, and was effectively kept out by Misbah's punt on Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali.

The problem is this. The next round of the World Test Championship is August 2021 to July 2023, and by the end of that Fawad Alam will be 38. Picking him now would do to Haider Ali and Saud Shakeel precisely what Misbah did to Fawad Alam - it would ruin their development and their careers.

I think we just have to accept that Fawad Alam was treated badly, but two wrongs do not make a right.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I feel really sorry for Fawad Alam. He clearly should have played dozens of Tests between 2010 and 2017, and was effectively kept out by Misbah's punt on Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali.

The problem is this. The next round of the World Test Championship is August 2021 to July 2023, and by the end of that Fawad Alam will be 38. Picking him now would do to Haider Ali and Saud Shakeel precisely what Misbah did to Fawad Alam - it would ruin their development and their careers.

I think we just have to accept that Fawad Alam was treated badly, but two wrongs do not make a right.

Your suggestion basically is the other extreme of what Misbah and the management does in cricket. You can't throw in guys with non existent FC credentials and then expect them to overhaul teams at the Test level - This is the whole problem right now.

Haider and Saud's Test development shouldn't be at the expense that they are ought to 'learn cricket' on the job at the Test level. Their' competition should be among each other to fill whatever spot that is needed at the Test level (more so for Haider than Saud because the latter actually has solid FC numbers). The likes of Fawad, Babar, even Shan are needed at that top most level because they provide that experience in years when things start to go south.

Moderation is needed in both, retaining experienced heads and in inducting youngsters in the team.

 

[Junaids]

Your suggestion basically is the other extreme of what Misbah and the management does in cricket. You can't throw in guys with non existent FC credentials and then expect them to overhaul teams at the Test level - This is the whole problem right now.

Haider and Saud's Test development shouldn't be at the expense that they are ought to 'learn cricket' on the job at the Test level. Their' competition should be among each other to fill whatever spot that is needed at the Test level (more so for Haider than Saud because the latter actually has solid FC numbers). The likes of Fawad, Babar, even Shan are needed at that top most level because they provide that experience in years when things start to go south.

Moderation is needed in both, retaining experienced heads and in inducting youngsters in the team.

Look at Australia from 1986, when they had reached rock bottom.

They basically culled the old guard and blooded players like Steve Waugh, Dean Jones and Craig McDermott.

I am not arguing for players as raw as Abdullah Shafique in the Test team. But I would be happy with this as my Test team now, on the basis that they would have rich experience by the time the 2021-23 World Test Championship round comes:

1. Shan Masood (30)
2. Mohammad Rizwan (28)
3. Saud Shakeel (25)
4. Babar Azam (26)
5. Rohail Nazir (19)
6. Mohammad Nawaz (26)
7. Shadab Khan (22)
8. Amad Butt (25)
9. Hasan Ali (26)
10. Naseem Shah (probably 19-20)
11. Shaheen Shah Afridi (20)

There are 3 guys in that team who are not established international cricketers. They are aged 25, 25 and 26, and of them one scored an Unofficial Test century v New Zealand A and the other took 6 wickets for 60 in the same match.

Players need to be selected at their peak. Pakistan keep picking veterans long after they go into decline, but any team needs a core of guys aged 21-30.

My team has 7 players aged 21-30.

 

[Mamoon]

Do you know the menu or you are assuming that they must have been served unhealthy food because it was hosted by an Indian family?

If you have seen pictures of what was served perhaps you should share it with us so that all of us can stop assuming.

 

[Varun]

Do you know the menu or you are assuming that they must have been served unhealthy food because it was hosted by an Indian family?

If you have seen pictures of what was served perhaps you should share it with us so that all of us can stop assuming.

Check out the video up top - looks like typical North Indian fare. With its fair share of oil and grease.

 

[Mamoon]

Check out the video up top - looks like typical North Indian fare. With its fair share of oil and grease.

I post from my phone via mobile version. I cannot see the video right now.

This seems like a pointless thread to me. It is not a big deal. These players go to Indian/Pakistani restaurants anyway.

 

[Caved12]

Almost every overseas tour, our players get invited by some locals who are originally from either Pakistan or India.

Players always prefer this because they are always looking for a desi restuarant or food shop anyways.

Nothing wrong with eating any Indian or Pakistani food as they are very healthy.

It all comes down to how you cook and the portion size of your meal that you are eating. As long as you keep it in between 500 to 800 calories, you are good.

If I were a player and part of that party, I would take some grilled chicken, salad and a bit of orange juice. I might eat some vege dish as well, but would keep a close eye on my portion size. Players should know what they are putting in their bodies. I mean they should know everything, the nutrional value of the food and the amount of calories they are consuming. Knowing Pakistani players, I am sure they would manage to find the most unhealthiest food sitting on that table and munch on it all day.

 

[kingusama92]

These guys were seen getting burgers and milkshakes multiple times during the England tour. Not to mention getting invited to parties like these. It's pretty obvious they don't care about their diet.

 

[Savak]

The players have the right to a cheat meal as long as its a once a week thing, but they better burn it off in the gym.

 

[Mamoon]

Our players lack talent and intelligence. I wouldn’t worry too much about their fitness and diet at this point.

When you lack talent and intelligence, there is no point worrying about secondary factors. Getting fitter won’t help this team much.

Shan Masood is probably the fittest player in Pakistan but he doesn’t have the ability to take his Test average beyond 35.

If you have the basic talent, skill and intelligence, then you can start worrying about what the players eat and how they train so that they can maximize their potential.

Fitness impacts fielding but the difference between Pakistan and the top sides is not just fielding.

 

[Caved12]

These guys were seen getting burgers and milkshakes multiple times during the England tour. Not to mention getting invited to parties like these. It's pretty obvious they don't care about their diet.

They should be smart enough to stay away from such foods.
[MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION], Nothing wrong with having a cheat meal, but making a habit of having cheat meals every second or third day and then burning it off in a gym, does not help either. Working out all day and then eating garbage will also get you injured if you are playing at that level. Bowlers should be even more careful.

 

[Caved12]

These guys were seen getting burgers and milkshakes multiple times during the England tour. Not to mention getting invited to parties like these. It's pretty obvious they don't care about their diet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLBDQ9TXPA

Look at the difference in between Nba and Pakistan cricket players. Norman Powell is keeping track of the number of carbs he is consuming per day and having any kind of sugar will offset what he is trying to achieve through his diet. A tiny bit of maple syrup wont make much of difference and he may even burn it off before finishing that press conference, but all he is thinking about is sticking to his diet.

 

[Caved12]

[MENTION=8597]kingusama92[/MENTION]

In another video, OG Anunoby completely avoided this by saying that he is allergic to maple syrup, lol.

 

[kingusama92]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkLBDQ9TXPA

Look at the difference in between Nba and Pakistan cricket players. Norman Powell is keeping track of the number of carbs he is consuming per day and having any kind of sugar will offset what he is trying to achieve through his diet. A tiny bit of maple syrup wont make much of difference and he may even burn it off before finishing that press conference, but all he is thinking about is sticking to his diet.

Absolutely nailed it man.

If I was a professional athlete, I would be 110% dedicated to my fitness, diet, and of course technique (bowling/batting/fielding) I mean this is their livelihood in the end.

Even from a selfish perspective, these guys should be on top of their workouts, practices, and eating. Don't you want to make more money? Don't you want to have a longer career with a longer prime?

It's not like the average Joe going through a workout program after a 9-5 job. A national cricketer should never compare his fitness standards to that of the common man. This is supposed to be the cream of the crop. The fittest men on the planet. Yet, these guys are pretty careless about what goes into their bodies.

Just look at what Sarfraz was doing before he went on a risky crash diet. The man was having cheat months, not cheat meals. By the end, he was huffing and puffing running singles. It took getting stripped of the captaincy and dropped for him to realize it's time to change.

These types of videos always come out and they're always pigging out. We're probably giving them too much credit to assume they're just having a strategic cheat meal.

 

[Caved12]

Absolutely nailed it man.

If I was a professional athlete, I would be 110% dedicated to my fitness, diet, and of course technique (bowling/batting/fielding) I mean this is their livelihood in the end.

Even from a selfish perspective, these guys should be on top of their workouts, practices, and eating. Don't you want to make more money? Don't you want to have a longer career with a longer prime?

It's not like the average Joe going through a workout program after a 9-5 job. A national cricketer should never compare his fitness standards to that of the common man. This is supposed to be the cream of the crop. The fittest men on the planet. Yet, these guys are pretty careless about what goes into their bodies.

Just look at what Sarfraz was doing before he went on a risky crash diet. The man was having cheat months, not cheat meals. By the end, he was huffing and puffing running singles. It took getting stripped of the captaincy and dropped for him to realize it's time to change.

These types of videos always come out and they're always pigging out. We're probably giving them too much credit to assume they're just having a strategic cheat meal.

I fully agree bro.

I can bet my house on this that they have cheat meals everyday or at least 3 to 4 times per week because they don't know what they are eating.

 

[tyron_woodley]

After the 2nd T20, the Pakistan team made their way to a dinner reception in which they were hosted by an Indian origin family in New Zealand.

Nothing wrong with players having some off time but I am extremely worried on food the boys are willing to consume mid tour. Is there any fitness expert that can validate here on whether this is acceptable diet for a pro athlete?

Thoughts?

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Omg. You deserve to lose. You deserve to fookin lose for eating that.

You wi never win anything of note. This is bloody pathetic. Like wth. Shocking.

I cannot believe this. How is this a professional side?


Could you imagine how good these players can be if they actually focused on diet and nutrition plus strength /conditioning?

They are so talented yet the shoot themselves in the foot by eating this rubbish. No doubt tasty food but you are an athlete. Eat like one. Jeez.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I think they may or may not be eating in moderation, and I don’t give a flying flock about it, but they seem to be coming up with a little rude and cold attitude.

The poor host is sorta begging in an apologetic tone, ye biryani layn, ye kabab layn etc, but none of the players show a formal courtesy or basic decency to put a smile on his face, make an eye contact with the host and say, Thank You or shukriya.

Everyone seems to have his head down and ignoring the host with a long face. WTH?

Yes, you may personally not know the family but you are a guest at their place, show a little god forsaken warmth in your demeanor.

Fans love you, that’s why they invite you at their place. It’s not a commercial stint where someone is making money off of you without giving you, your share.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Do you know the menu or you are assuming that they must have been served unhealthy food because it was hosted by an Indian family?

If you have seen pictures of what was served perhaps you should share it with us so that all of us can stop assuming.

What......are.....you....talking.....about? Do you not see the opening post?

 

[Caved12]

Omg. You deserve to lose. You deserve to fookin lose for eating that.

You wi never win anything of note. This is bloody pathetic. Like wth. Shocking.

I cannot believe this. How is this a professional side?


Could you imagine how good these players can be if they actually focused on diet and nutrition plus strength /conditioning?

They are so talented yet the shoot themselves in the foot by eating this rubbish. No doubt tasty food but you are an athlete. Eat like one. Jeez.

Let's say they are not talented or have very little talent, without correcting the diet or fitness methods, they won't go very far.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Omg. You deserve to lose. You deserve to fookin lose for eating that.

You wi never win anything of note. This is bloody pathetic. Like wth. Shocking.

I cannot believe this. How is this a professional side?


Could you imagine how good these players can be if they actually focused on diet and nutrition plus strength /conditioning?

They are so talented yet the shoot themselves in the foot by eating this rubbish. No doubt tasty food but you are an athlete. Eat like one. Jeez.

I once was listening to a Kohli interview and the guy literally said that I haven't had bread for 3 years now. The host was like what? not even a piece? He was like nope not once.

He said that he realized that fitness was key when he first played against the Aussies in his career. There were times when players would just run out of gas due to not having the same fitness levels as their opponents & that is what changed him. I genuinely couldn't believe the greasy meals these guys are ok in consuming while on such an important tour.

 

[Caved12]

I think they may or may not be eating in moderation, and I don’t give a flying flock about it, but they seem to be coming up with a little rude and cold attitude.

The poor host is sorta begging in an apologetic tone, ye biryani layn, ye kabab layn etc, but none of the players show a formal courtesy or basic decency to put a smile on his face, make an eye contact with the host and say, Thank You or shukriya.

Everyone seems to have his head down and ignoring the host with a long face. WTH?

Yes, you may personally not know the family but you are a guest at their place, show a little god forsaken warmth in your demeanor.

Fans love you, that’s why they invite you at their place. It’s not a commercial stint where someone is making money off of you without giving you, your share.

I noticed the same. Only Imad was nice enough to smile and make a small talk.

 

[tyron_woodley]

I once was listening to a Kohli interview and the guy literally said that I haven't had bread for 3 years now. The host was like what? not even a piece? He was like nope not once.

He said that he realized that fitness was key when he first played against the Aussies in his career. There were times when players would just run out of gas due to not having the same fitness levels as their opponents & that is what changed him. I genuinely couldn't believe the greasy meals these guys are ok in consuming while on such an important tour.

I know. It's shocking. Unbelievable. Why??? It's really frustrating to see Asian players do this.
You are a professional freaking athlete.

These guys are so talented but they are already playing at a major disadvantage. If they just followed a strict diet it would improve their game so much.

 

[gani999]

Check out the video up top - looks like typical North Indian fare. With its fair share of oil and grease.

Yes, nihari, haleem and biryani were on the menu. Most likely there was some creamy and sweet dessert as well.

But I don't see the fuss. As long as they don't get sick and burn it all off.

 

[Mamoon]

I think they may or may not be eating in moderation, and I don’t give a flying flock about it, but they seem to be coming up with a little rude and cold attitude.

The poor host is sorta begging in an apologetic tone, ye biryani layn, ye kabab layn etc, but none of the players show a formal courtesy or basic decency to put a smile on his face, make an eye contact with the host and say, Thank You or shukriya.

Everyone seems to have his head down and ignoring the host with a long face. WTH?

Yes, you may personally not know the family but you are a guest at their place, show a little god forsaken warmth in your demeanor.

Fans love you, that’s why they invite you at their place. It’s not a commercial stint where someone is making money off of you without giving you, your share.

I think you might be slightly overreacting. Firstly, you are basing your judgment based on a small clip and secondly, Imad seems courteous even in this small clip.

 

[silentkiller187]

I think you might be slightly overreacting. Firstly, you are basing your judgment based on a small clip and secondly, Imad seems courteous even in this small clip.

Wahab seem to be taking recommendations from the host too with the "haleem" very small clip so we cannot make assumptions. Just looks like a normal group of 18-35 year old men who are hungry and a little shy. Imad seems courteous but he also is one of the more confident players in the group when it comes to social gatherings so not a surprise.

 

[Zaz]

The players have the right to a cheat meal as long as its a once a week thing, but they better burn it off in the gym.

You cant out train a bad diet No matter how much you workout

If this is a one off im fine with it but from the reports i hear all the time it isnt

The cricketers are always looking to eat out at restaurants when theyre on tour This shouldnt be the case They are athletes n should eat as such for the most part

 

[globalcitizen]

Nonsense discussion over something trivial. They are professionals and nothing wrong in having a hearty meal once in a while. Ofcourse it’s an issue if this is a regular thing

 

[tyron_woodley]

After the 2nd T20, the Pakistan team made their way to a dinner reception in which they were hosted by an Indian origin family in New Zealand.

Nothing wrong with players having some off time but I am extremely worried on food the boys are willing to consume mid tour. Is there any fitness expert that can validate here on whether this is acceptable diet for a pro athlete?

Thoughts?

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This Faheem Ashraf acts like he is the best looking guy on the planet. Lol wth.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Why is this even allowed to happen in the first place that the team is going to someone's house for a meal regardless of the hosts being Indian or Pakistani?

India has been in Australia far longer than our team but have we seen them being going or being invited for a desi meal by an Indian or Pakistani host or would they even bother to go if the host was Pakistani?

Literally on every tour there's always a video or pictures of the Pakistan team coming out eating these types of food regardless of what the circumstances. Right now the whole world is going through a crisis like Covid-19 and yet they're out mingling with a family who's invited them over.

Even if they're someone cricketers family, yet this should not be allowed but yes once the tour is over or whatever then if you want to do so then sure.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

They still have six pack that's what matters

 

[Deewana Mastana]

They still have six pack that's what matters

You mean family pack

 

[Caved12]

Why is this even allowed to happen in the first place that the team is going to someone's house for a meal regardless of the hosts being Indian or Pakistani?

India has been in Australia far longer than our team but have we seen them being going or being invited for a desi meal by an Indian or Pakistani host or would they even bother to go if the host was Pakistani?

Literally on every tour there's always a video or pictures of the Pakistan team coming out eating these types of food regardless of what the circumstances. Right now the whole world is going through a crisis like Covid-19 and yet they're out mingling with a family who's invited them over.

Even if they're someone cricketers family, yet this should not be allowed but yes once the tour is over or whatever then if you want to do so then sure.

That too in a pandemic hit season.

 

[Caved12]

It is never healthy to eat from different kitchens everyday. There is a reason why Doctors say "Try to eat food from a same kitchen everyday if you worry about your health"

 

[Rohan]

No sweets? Where are the sweets? Sweets were edited?

 

[silentkiller187]

Why is this even allowed to happen in the first place that the team is going to someone's house for a meal regardless of the hosts being Indian or Pakistani?

India has been in Australia far longer than our team but have we seen them being going or being invited for a desi meal by an Indian or Pakistani host or would they even bother to go if the host was Pakistani?

Literally on every tour there's always a video or pictures of the Pakistan team coming out eating these types of food regardless of what the circumstances. Right now the whole world is going through a crisis like Covid-19 and yet they're out mingling with a family who's invited them over.

Even if they're someone cricketers family, yet this should not be allowed but yes once the tour is over or whatever then if you want to do so then sure.

This is part and parcel of touring , india probably has the budget to bring chefs to cook for their players, pak has to rely on the hospitality of the locals, nothing wrong with that. ive seen england players in fast food restaurants after a days play.

Its in our mentality to complain about everything, NZ does not have covid restrictions like the rest of the world as they managed the pandemic well, what do you expect our players to do sit in isolation just because the rest of the world is going through it?

 

[Third_Umpire]

On the one hand, these guys have had a tough tour quarantined etc, so deserve a cheat meal. On the other hand, why do I feel like this is how they usually eat..

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Food is food, if you are consistent with your fitness and diet then one meal doesn't even matter. Abid on the other hand has piled on the pounds.

 

[thecrusade911]

You know what I live in India. I play cricket at the club level currently. All the cricketers I know here who will probably never play in the national team or even Ranji, but the fact that we still have so much dedication towards this game that we have changed our lifestyle to meet the fitness requirements of this game. Guys here hardly cheat probably one meal per week. It says alot about the mentality of two nations, how they go about it. I can vouch for myself that I'm fitter than all the current players of Pakistan. Bar one or two players, I've seen Pak players do Bicep curls, chest presses in gym. Hardly have seen them doing snatches, cleans etc. and they probably are not doing that at all given their power hitting is trash.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

I feel really sorry for Fawad Alam. He clearly should have played dozens of Tests between 2010 and 2017, and was effectively kept out by Misbah's punt on Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali.

The problem is this. The next round of the World Test Championship is August 2021 to July 2023, and by the end of that Fawad Alam will be 38. Picking him now would do to Haider Ali and Saud Shakeel precisely what Misbah did to Fawad Alam - it would ruin their development and their careers.

I think we just have to accept that Fawad Alam was treated badly, but two wrongs do not make a right.

He just done well in the practise game but again a practise game is a practise game. However, look at him and tell me he looks in his mid 30s? Compare him to Ifti who looks the younger and fitter? Talk about fitness and age look at Haris Sohail, he's younger and has knee issues. Age, age, age we go on about it but nobody seems to look at form.

Did anybody complain when Misbah played into his forties or Tendulkar for that matter? Who knows this could be Fawad's wonder years and inshAllah i back him to do well.

 

[OldWarHorse]

No big deal. Those guys are well built and can look after themselves post such meals. Now if there were likes of Azam khan or Rohit gulping down unhealthy portions maybe there would have been a point.

 

[OldWarHorse]

You know what I live in India. I play cricket at the club level currently. All the cricketers I know here who will probably never play in the national team or even Ranji, but the fact that we still have so much dedication towards this game that we have changed our lifestyle to meet the fitness requirements of this game. Guys here hardly cheat probably one meal per week. It says alot about the mentality of two nations, how they go about it. I can vouch for myself that I'm fitter than all the current players of Pakistan. Bar one or two players, I've seen Pak players do Bicep curls, chest presses in gym. Hardly have seen them doing snatches, cleans etc. and they probably are not doing that at all given their power hitting is trash.

There are atleast three guys on the video who can bowl 90 mph comfortably, doubt they are lacking in fitness and keeping up their levels of international cricket. Stop with your drivel.

 

[stevewittry]

After the 2nd T20, the Pakistan team made their way to a dinner reception in which they were hosted by an Indian origin family in New Zealand.

Nothing wrong with players having some off time but I am extremely worried on food the boys are willing to consume mid tour. Is there any fitness expert that can validate here on whether this is acceptable diet for a pro athlete?

Thoughts?

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Social distancing?

 

[silentkiller187]

You know what I live in India. I play cricket at the club level currently. All the cricketers I know here who will probably never play in the national team or even Ranji, but the fact that we still have so much dedication towards this game that we have changed our lifestyle to meet the fitness requirements of this game. Guys here hardly cheat probably one meal per week. It says alot about the mentality of two nations, how they go about it. I can vouch for myself that I'm fitter than all the current players of Pakistan. Bar one or two players, I've seen Pak players do Bicep curls, chest presses in gym. Hardly have seen them doing snatches, cleans etc. and they probably are not doing that at all given their power hitting is trash.

How many international games have you played, fitness only takes you so far, skills is what separates the men from the boys.

 

[angrypathan]

Social distancing?

No social distancing in NZ. They've managed to pretty much eliminate COVID from the community.

 

[Caved12]

How many international games have you played, fitness only takes you so far, skills is what separates the men from the boys.

What nonsense? How is this possible? Let's say you are supremely talented like Tendulkar or Lara, but don't have fitness, how are you going to play cricket? or apply the skills that you are good at in nets to become better? You will get quickly tired after one batting session.

 

[silentkiller187]

That's why I said fitness only takes you so far,

Lets say for example someone is supremely talented like tendulker but has poor fitness levels, they still stand a better chance of making something in cricket then someone who spends day and night in the gym but has poor skill.

Of course in professional sport a basic level of fitness is required, and last i saw all these players passed a fitness test so i dont see what the big issue is.

 

[Caved12]

You know what I live in India. I play cricket at the club level currently. All the cricketers I know here who will probably never play in the national team or even Ranji, but the fact that we still have so much dedication towards this game that we have changed our lifestyle to meet the fitness requirements of this game. Guys here hardly cheat probably one meal per week. It says alot about the mentality of two nations, how they go about it. I can vouch for myself that I'm fitter than all the current players of Pakistan. Bar one or two players, I've seen Pak players do Bicep curls, chest presses in gym. Hardly have seen them doing snatches, cleans etc. and they probably are not doing that at all given their power hitting is trash.

Thank you for sharing.

How is your diet like? I am just curious to know. I know the indian or Pakistani foods have slow digestion and absorption rates that usually results in a slower recovery time after some rigorous activity, so what do you eat most of the time or after your cricket sessions?

 

[Caved12]

That's why I said fitness only takes you so far,

Lets say for example someone is supremely talented like tendulker but has poor fitness levels, they still stand a better chance of making something in cricket then someone who spends day and night in the gym but has poor skill.

Of course in professional sport a basic level of fitness is required, and last i saw all these players passed a fitness test so i dont see what the big issue is.

They both are equally important. You can't downplay one or another.

 

[msb314]

Why is this even allowed to happen in the first place that the team is going to someone's house for a meal regardless of the hosts being Indian or Pakistani?

India has been in Australia far longer than our team but have we seen them being going or being invited for a desi meal by an Indian or Pakistani host or would they even bother to go if the host was Pakistani?

Literally on every tour there's always a video or pictures of the Pakistan team coming out eating these types of food regardless of what the circumstances. Right now the whole world is going through a crisis like Covid-19 and yet they're out mingling with a family who's invited them over.

Even if they're someone cricketers family, yet this should not be allowed but yes once the tour is over or whatever then if you want to do so then sure.

That too in a pandemic hit season.

There are no gathering restrictions right now in NZ. As far as I’m aware - COVID has been completely eradicated in NZ..

 

[Caved12]

That's why I said fitness only takes you so far,

Lets say for example someone is supremely talented like tendulker but has poor fitness levels, they still stand a better chance of making something in cricket then someone who spends day and night in the gym but has poor skill.

Of course in professional sport a basic level of fitness is required, and last i saw all these players passed a fitness test so i dont see what the big issue is.

Haris Sohail have been successfully passing these fitness tests, but always gets injured mid tour because he loves his parathas and biryanis. To me, Haris is the second best bat after Babar and I think of him as a very skilled and talented player. Passing the fitness test and doing the bare minimum is not enough to play for your country. I know most of them are fit and how can they not be as they are playing for Pakistan, but I am talking about taking all this to another level as their best is not enough. All other countries have moved on, but we are still stuck in the 17th century when it comes to diet and fitness.

 

[ahmedzee]

one meal that might be full of carbs is not bad. Great gesture by the Indo-Kiwi host and Pakistani team as well. Please see the positives in here.

 

[QalandarFan]

I don't even know if I can call our players "professional athletes" compare these guys to NFL/NBA/Soccer players there's absolutely no sense of professionalism or intelligence.

 

[Saj]

The boys missing home comforts.

Any social distancing/Covid-19 issues?

 

[thecrusade911]

Thank you for sharing.

How is your diet like? I am just curious to know. I know the indian or Pakistani foods have slow digestion and absorption rates that usually results in a slower recovery time after some rigorous activity, so what do you eat most of the time or after your cricket sessions?

The basics are you need eat clean, nutrition dense foods. There is a lot of difference between calorie dense and nutrition dense foods.
Some people here say that carbs are bad which is absolutely non-sense. They are the actual sources of energy for you body. But you have to take carbs from clean foods, ideally you have to eat complex cards contained in foods like brown rice, whole wheat bread, quinoa, sweet potatoes etc. Protein is the most important part. You ideally wanna consume lean protein sources but you can eat red meat as well some protein sources like chicken breasts, egg whites, salmon and whey protein . As far as workout sessions and the recovery are concerned, you will obviously recover by eating enough calories throughout the day but you wanna take Whey isolate after your workout. During my cardio and cricket sessions, I take BCAAs in supplement form. Vitamins and minerals are equally important and as an athlete, the demands of you body are high, you won't be getting any of them in enough amount through whole food so you may wanna take some multivitamins. And Most importantly don't neglect healthy fats(Almonds, cashews etc). There are few other things I use like Omega-3 fatty acids in capsule form.
I also eat enough fruits and green veggies throughout the day.

 

[Caved12]

The basics are you need eat clean, nutrition dense foods. There is a lot of difference between calorie dense and nutrition dense foods.
Some people here say that carbs are bad which is absolutely non-sense. They are the actual sources of energy for you body. But you have to take carbs from clean foods, ideally you have to eat complex cards contained in foods like brown rice, whole wheat bread, quinoa, sweet potatoes etc. Protein is the most important part. You ideally wanna consume lean protein sources but you can eat red meat as well some protein sources like chicken breasts, egg whites, salmon and whey protein . As far as workout sessions and the recovery are concerned, you will obviously recover by eating enough calories throughout the day but you wanna take Whey isolate after your workout. During my cardio and cricket sessions, I take BCAAs in supplement form. Vitamins and minerals are equally important and as an athlete, the demands of you body are high, you won't be getting any of them in enough amount through whole food so you may wanna take some multivitamins. And Most importantly don't neglect healthy fats(Almonds, cashews etc). There are few other things I use like Omega-3 fatty acids in capsule form.
I also eat enough fruits and green veggies throughout the day.

Perfect brother!! You nailed it!! I never doubted you, just wanted to know how you do things there. No wonder you guys have been awesome at the international level for a long time now.

 

[Caved12]

The basics are you need eat clean, nutrition dense foods. There is a lot of difference between calorie dense and nutrition dense foods.
Some people here say that carbs are bad which is absolutely non-sense. They are the actual sources of energy for you body. But you have to take carbs from clean foods, ideally you have to eat complex cards contained in foods like brown rice, whole wheat bread, quinoa, sweet potatoes etc. Protein is the most important part. You ideally wanna consume lean protein sources but you can eat red meat as well some protein sources like chicken breasts, egg whites, salmon and whey protein . As far as workout sessions and the recovery are concerned, you will obviously recover by eating enough calories throughout the day but you wanna take Whey isolate after your workout. During my cardio and cricket sessions, I take BCAAs in supplement form. Vitamins and minerals are equally important and as an athlete, the demands of you body are high, you won't be getting any of them in enough amount through whole food so you may wanna take some multivitamins. And Most importantly don't neglect healthy fats(Almonds, cashews etc). There are few other things I use like Omega-3 fatty acids in capsule form.
I also eat enough fruits and green veggies throughout the day.

Exactly, idea is to recover faster and it becomes very tough to have those faster recovery times when you don't eat clean or have something after your workouts that can take forever to digest. Look at our Pakistani players, they have a game every second day, yet they are out eating biryanis, dahi bhalla, etc etc. Kya baat hai and half of the peeple here are defending and saying that it is all good.

 

[hussain.r97]

After the 2nd T20, the Pakistan team made their way to a dinner reception in which they were hosted by an Indian origin family in New Zealand.

Nothing wrong with players having some off time but I am extremely worried on food the boys are willing to consume mid tour. Is there any fitness expert that can validate here on whether this is acceptable diet for a pro athlete?

Thoughts?

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This was actually the night before the 2nd T20, not after. I know people who attended this dinner. Yes, you can have your cheat days, but not a night before a game.

This Indian origin guy invites the team over in Hamilton every time they team visit, he seems to personally know a few of the players. All seems a bit dodgy to be honest.

 

[Zaz]

This was actually the night before the 2nd T20, not after. I know people who attended this dinner. Yes, you can have your cheat days, but not a night before a game.

This Indian origin guy invites the team over in Hamilton every time they team visit, he seems to personally know a few of the players. All seems a bit dodgy to be honest.

Dodgy in what sense?

 

[tyron_woodley]

Exactly, idea is to recover faster and it becomes very tough to have those faster recovery times when you don't eat clean or have something after your workouts that can take forever to digest. Look at our Pakistani players, they have a game every second day, yet they are out eating biryanis, dahi bhalla, etc etc. Kya baat hai and half of the peeple here are defending and saying that it is all good.

That's what I am saying. It's remarkable that Pakistan have still managed to win champions trophy but their ranking justifies what they eat.

Just imagine if desi players actually take fitness seriously. What I mean is these guys are probably very fit but their diet is ruining their energy system to be in optimal shape for cricket.

Once desi players particularly Pakistani players they will be a force. Mark my words.

 

[Savak]

According to my nutritionist. Its a misconception that people cannot get fit and healthy on a desi diet, the key is calorie and portion control. If you stick to 2000-2500 calories for the day with a desi diet, you will do just fine.

 

[Saj]

From my experience of dealing with Pakistani cricketers, they tend to run after people with money and influence.

My guess is that the host is quite wealthy, knows people, has links and will be a useful person for the players to know.

That is why they will run around for him and do whatever he wants.

 

[moghul]

I don't understand what exactly is all this fuss about ?

A cricket fan, who happened to be an Indian , showed nice gesture toward Pakistan team and invited them for a lunch/ or dinner. Pakistan team accepted the invitation, they were not served any banned substance.

I see zero problem with this, but some people always find something to talk about.

 

[Caved12]

According to my nutritionist. Its a misconception that people cannot get fit and healthy on a desi diet, the key is calorie and portion control. If you stick to 2000-2500 calories for the day with a desi diet, you will do just fine.

I think we will be going in so many different directions in this thread if we start to discuss all these diet plans. I would also like to discuss thecrusade911's post in detail and break it down further to see what we all know. You raise a very good point, that should get discussed in detail. I believe we should open a new thread to discuss different diet plans and training programs.

 

[hussain.r97]

Dodgy in what sense?

The guy seems to know a few of the players quite well, and even claims to video call them while they're on overseas tours on a regular basis (won't take any names).

How did these players get so close to an Indian guy living in Hamilton? As far as I know this guy isn't even influential in cricket in New Zealand, so what's the shared interest?

Could be totally innocent, but it just seems a little fishy.

 

[CleverSir]

From my experience of dealing with Pakistani cricketers, they tend to run after people with money and influence.

My guess is that the host is quite wealthy, knows people, has links and will be a useful person for the players to know.

That is why they will run around for him and do whatever he wants.

Out of curiosity, why is that? What are they expecting to get out of the rich individual? Jobs? I'm genuinely curious why an athlete at the top of his profession would do that.

 

[angrypathan]

According to my nutritionist. Its a misconception that people cannot get fit and healthy on a desi diet, the key is calorie and portion control. If you stick to 2000-2500 calories for the day with a desi diet, you will do just fine.

The issue of course is that most desi food is incredibly calorie dense without having the nutritional elements in the ratio that a professional athlete would need. Now weight gain and weight loss is pretty much only related to the amount of calories consumed, so the players most probably won't gain any weight from their poor diets since they'll burn off the excess calories in their training. They will not however be able to recover as efficiently from workouts and gain muscle as easily as they would if they ate properly.

 

[thecrusade911]

According to my nutritionist. Its a misconception that people cannot get fit and healthy on a desi diet, the key is calorie and portion control. If you stick to 2000-2500 calories for the day with a desi diet, you will do just fine.

All calories are not created equal. Try eating 100 calories of Broccoli and 100 of chocolate. The human body is a highly complex organism and 100 calories of chocolate is not going to be processed, digested and utilised in the same way as 100 calories of broccoli.
The thermogenic effect
Glycemic index
Satiety
All these are taken into account when talking about foods for getting fit and living a healthy life.
Even different sugars effect different harmones.
Sports nutrition needs to provide energy, assist muscle tissue growth and regulate metabolism. Food such as wholegrain bread and brown rice, chicken breasts, beans, fruits and vegetables are nutrient dense and provide a wealth of vitamins and minerals as well as carbs, fats and protein. And because they contain significantly fewer calories than sugary counterparts, they support lean muscle growth and weight loss.

 

[Savak]

Can you seriously blame the players for not being able to resist delicious Pakistani delicacies like Biryani, Daal, Chicken Karhai, Haleem, Keema, Kebab e.t.c. Looks like people have never enjoyed Pakistani food

 

[tyron_woodley]

All calories are not created equal. Try eating 100 calories of Broccoli and 100 of chocolate. The human body is a highly complex organism and 100 calories of chocolate is not going to be processed, digested and utilised in the same way as 100 calories of broccoli.
The thermogenic effect
Glycemic index
Satiety
All these are taken into account when talking about foods for getting fit and living a healthy life.
Even different sugars effect different harmones.
Sports nutrition needs to provide energy, assist muscle tissue growth and regulate metabolism. Food such as wholegrain bread and brown rice, chicken breasts, beans, fruits and vegetables are nutrient dense and provide a wealth of vitamins and minerals as well as carbs, fats and protein. And because they contain significantly fewer calories than sugary counterparts, they support lean muscle growth and weight loss.

You are what you eat. It's true. Have to always eat clean.
I feel way stronger and physically just more athletic when I eat lean beef chicken etc.

Eating too much starchy food and oily food affects my performance in the gym.

 

[omairsiddiqui]

It is not our place to criticize what they eat and what they do during their free time. It is our place to criticize what they do on the field.

Also, given how tough the two weeks of isolation were on them, one extravagant meal cannot hurt. Physically might be harmful but emotionally and mentally, it might help. Good outweighs the bad.

 

[Dark_Horse]

Looks like their engine runs on the desk food