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[VIDEO/PICTURES] 'Focus on your team' : Virat Kohli lays into South African broadcaster

If india team were complaint that day ( Rahul shocking decision) then today situation may not have happened. by slint on that day BALL TRACKING MAKERS think if they can change one decision then they can another one so easily.
 
"How can that miss the stumps? He's Dean Elgar, not Marco Jansen". - Sunil Gavaskar.

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For one look at the distance between the ball and the stumps...

I've seen balls hitting there that have gone on to miss the stumps. This is a pitch where I saw Rabada and other bowlers get lift big lift from a good length so far from surprising or the tv providers doctoring drs.
 
This was shameful from Kohli and Ashwin

Both should be punished
Both should be missing at least a couple of Tests.

They would be if they played for another country. No doubt.

Let's see what ICC does.
 
If india team were complaint that day ( Rahul shocking decision) then today situation may not have happened. by slint on that day BALL TRACKING MAKERS think if they can change one decision then they can another one so easily.

So what should we expect now? Indians crying about every decision that goes against them in tense situations or Indian team will now carry their own broadcasting team to every country they tour.
See more than the decision its this appalling behavior fans are opposed to. Cricketers are role models for youngsters they can't do this. At most kohli should have registered his disagreement or complain at the end of days play. But shouting into the stump mic was disgusting
 
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So what should we expect now? Indians crying about every decision that goes against them in tense situations or Indian team will now carry their own broadcasting comapny to every country they tour.
See more than the decision its this appalling behavior fans are opposed to. Cricketers are role models for youngsters they can't do this. At most kohli should have registered his disagreement or complain at the end of days play. But shouting into the stump mic was disgusting
It's pathetic.

I hope SA and Supersport pushes for the Indian players to get punished. Match fees gone and at least 2-3 match bans for bringing the game into disrepute.
 
I wonder what Rahul Dravid has to say about the behaviour of his captain...
 
Tendulkar tried to compensate for that by giving 5 catches. You guys have yourself to blame for that :))

Elgar on the other hand seems to be a one man army.

Anyways can you guys just focus on the specific incident on hand than brining a India- Pak debate to every damn thing. It’s tiresome.

wait, why you dont want past case be discussed?

You lot always claimed such a thing cannot happen. So how is it that it didnt happened back than but now it happened? Try to stay constent plz
 
Have players blaming broadcasters ever happened so openly during a match? Weird thing to see.
 
He is king Kohli. Icc cannot do anything more than giving him icc spirit of cricket award for this year.
 
It's pathetic.

I hope SA and Supersport pushes for the Indian players to get punished. Match fees gone and at least 2-3 match bans for bringing the game into disrepute.

Seriously this is as bad as someone suggesting these matches are fixed. N this coming from a national team captain does bring disrepute to the game. Kohli nd co. deserve punishment
 
Perpetrators should be fined 50% of match fees and get demerit points. An accusation of cheating should not be taken lightly.
 
Team India Lets It Rip On Stump Mic After Dean Elgar's DRS ReprieveIndia vs South Africa, 3rd Test: The final session on Day 3 was shrouded with controversy with Team India losing their cool with a DRS decision.

India skipper Virat Kohli and his teammates lost their cool during the final 45 minutes on the third day after rival skipper Dean Elgar got a massive reprieve due to a contentious DRS decision. Some of the unsavory comments made about umpiring and technology as well as broadcasters might not go down well with the match referee and the Indian skipper may have to cop a financial penalty. The incident happened in the 21st over when Ravichandran Ashwin flighted one which dipped and then straightened to beat a lunging Elgar's bat. Umpire Marais Erasmus straightaway lifted his finger but Elgar appealed for DRS.

Once he saw on the big screen that he was beaten, he started trudging back only to his delight to find that the ball was going over the stumps.

While it looked dead plumb, the reversal of decision saw Kohli kicking the ground in disgust as all kinds of chatter started.

The players, knowing that the stump microphone catches every bit of verbal stuff, the players made it a point to let everyone in South Africa know their feelings.

"Whole country is against 11 players," said one while the other said, "broadcasters are here to make money, boys."

"I hope the stump microphone is recording it," said another.

Ashwin also could not stop himself from taking a dig at the ball-tracking technology of the broadcaster, saying, "You should find better ways to win Supersport."

Kohli added to that,"Focus on your team as well and not just the opposition. Trying to catch people all the time."

KL Rahul went to another extent when he said,"Whole country playing against XI guys."

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Kohli had in fact sledged Elgar even before that when he made a snide remark about Elgar being intimidated by Jasprit Bumrah.

'Unbelievable. After a Man of the Match performance in the last game, running (away) from Jasprit. Chirping for 13 years, Dean and you think you are gonna keep me quiet," Kohli said from slips.

However this constant chatter did allow the focus to drift as South Africa got some quick runs after that.

Continuing the constant criticism of the decision seemed like an excuse for yet another shoddy batting show with 223 and 198 being the scores.

At the end of the day's play, India bowling coach Paras Mhambrey tried to douse the fire.

"We saw it, you saw it. I'll leave that for the match referee to have a look at it. There's nothing I can comment on it now. We've seen it all, just want to move on with the game now."

https://sports.ndtv.com/south-afric...mp-mic-after-dean-elgars-drs-reprieve-2707090
 
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Paras Mhambrey, the bowling coach, said in his press conference, "We saw it, you saw it. I'll leave that for the match referee to have a look at it. There's nothing I can comment on it now. We've seen it all, just want to move on with the game now."

When asked if the Indian players were suggesting the broadcasters were manipulating the images, Mhambrey said, "Every individual out here is trying his best. Sometimes in a moment like this, people do say certain things. It's a game. I think it's fair we just move on. Everyone is trying their best. Emotions do come into play sometimes."
 
It was out, just like the Mohali one.

Erasmus thought it was out, and so did Ian Gould.

India lost a test match due to DRS, but they won a WC due to DRS.

With another World Cup at home next year, I wouldn’t be complaining about DRS.
 
Looked out didn't it.

But regardless that was some pretty poor behaviour from the Indian players especially the skipper.

It will be interesting to see what the match referee does with this and what if any punishments are handed out.
 
When we said that Tendulkar DRS decision was manipulated in 2011 WC, the Inds complained by us being conspiracist theorists. Everyone knew that decision was changed by the guys upstairs
 
When we said that Tendulkar DRS decision was manipulated in 2011 WC, the Inds complained by us being conspiracist theorists. Everyone knew that decision was changed by the guys upstairs

I might be wrong, but I remember waiting a long time just for the ball tracking to come up.
 
Lungi Ngidi was asked if he trusted DRS to do its job, he said, simply, "Yes". When asked why, he elaborated: "We've seen it on numerous occasions being used all around the world. It's the system in place. That's what we use as cricketers."

Ngidi further said, "Reactions like that show a bit of frustration and sometimes teams capitalise on that. You never want to show so much emotion, but we could see emotions were high. That tells us they are feeling a little bit of pressure.
 
Looked out didn't it.

But regardless that was some pretty poor behaviour from the Indian players especially the skipper.

It will be interesting to see what the match referee does with this and what if any punishments are handed out.

One time things can go wrong but when its cone to multiple times then there are something fishy .Rahul and elgar dismissal were pure cheating . But i agree Kohli being caption of indian should have handled well
 
Initially I thought it was plumb. But after having seen the side on view multiple times, I don't think its inconceivable that the ball was going over the top. Looks a fair decision. Just see the side on view. Closely watch where the ball pitches and when it hits Elgar on the pad, the ball is clearly seen to be on an upward trajectory. With the amount of stride Elgar had put it, going over the top isn't outlandish by any means.

Terrible behaviour from the Indians. You register dismay but you don't start accusations. I was bitterly disappointed with Ashwin's behaviour, who I consider to be a gentleman. Kohli is as usual being Kohli. You can't go around displaying that sort of behaviour and pass it off as passion. One of the all time great batsmen ever but one of the most childish man when fielding. Comes across to be the kind of guy who would run away with the bat if he is out 1st ball on the street.
 
ICC wont do anything here the are a coward organisation when it comes to doing anything against india.

If this was babar Azam doing this the ICC would have already banned him for rest of this test, plus a lifetime ban om top of it. Accusing the umpires of cheating aswell is shameful behaviour. It looks like indians are looking for easy excuses here.
 
ICC wont do anything here the are a coward organisation when it comes to doing anything against india.

If this was babar Azam doing this the ICC would have already banned him for rest of this test, plus a lifetime ban om top of it. Accusing the umpires of cheating aswell is shameful behaviour. It looks like indians are looking for easy excuses here.

*Corrupt FTFY.

PCB might be a more ethical organization than these cheat-endorsers.
 
They control the cameras.

the same cameras that are setup to align for math algorithms. that would mean EVERY DRS would be wrong not just 1. illogical. this is pure whining.

if the camera alignment is wrong, the algorithm would be skewed on EVERY SINGLE DRS decision.
 
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Supersport should have a KohliCam tomorrow.

A camera that tracks Kohli throughout the day :)
 
When we said that Tendulkar DRS decision was manipulated in 2011 WC, the Inds complained by us being conspiracist theorists. Everyone knew that decision was changed by the guys upstairs

ICC was the one controlling everything in 2011.Not Indian or Pakistani.

Here Saffer home broadcaster controls everything.
 
ICC was the one controlling everything in 2011.Not Indian or Pakistani.

Here Saffer home broadcaster controls everything.

So you are saying SS knew that Ashwin will get this batsman on the roll before the innings start and they setup the cameras in a way knowing which end he will bowl at and make decision based on that.
 
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ICC was the one controlling everything in 2011.Not Indian or Pakistani.

Here Saffer home broadcaster controls everything.

You are quite good at bowling a spin when needed. Unfortunately, your spin is also missing the stumps.
 
last tour it was the toss and green pitches which indians were crying about. I guess they needed a new excuse today to whinge.
 
Ive seen better maturity in an under 10's school match.

Cricket is not football or boxing.

Time to stamp out this childish and idiotic behaviour. Ranting at the stumps has to be first. I have a feeling those stumps wont go down enough & Saffers will cruise to victory.
 
Can anyone please confirm if the broadcasters can actually change the ball's trajectory. I was under the impression that Hawkeye is a standard system all over the world and relies on its model to determine the trajectory.

Can anyone please confirm?

Also, Kohli was suggesting something else about catching the opposition. What was that about?
 
Have people watched the match?

Been excessive bounce quite consistently.

With regards to Kohli thought he had matured. A true regression. And Ashwin should know better.
 
after the cheating through drs, the camera focused continuously on the ball being shined by the Indian players.
 
Ashwin accused the broadcaster of cheating... If that doesn't get one banned, I wonder what will.

Kohli on the other hand accused the broadcaster of being biased; live on TV.

This is shocking behavior. Indians cricketers have really gone off the rails. Unbelievable stuff.
 
A bunch of losers! They batted poorly and now showing all these cheap emotions. My message to this Indian team: Grow up and play like men. Play good cricket and stop the drama nonsense.
 
Initially I thought it was plumb. But after having seen the side on view multiple times, I don't think its inconceivable that the ball was going over the top. Looks a fair decision. Just see the side on view. Closely watch where the ball pitches and when it hits Elgar on the pad, the ball is clearly seen to be on an upward trajectory. With the amount of stride Elgar had put it, going over the top isn't outlandish by any means.

Terrible behaviour from the Indians. You register dismay but you don't start accusations. I was bitterly disappointed with Ashwin's behaviour, who I consider to be a gentleman. Kohli is as usual being Kohli. You can't go around displaying that sort of behaviour and pass it off as passion. One of the all time great batsmen ever but one of the most childish man when fielding. Comes across to be the kind of guy who would run away with the bat if he is out 1st ball on the street.

Completely agree. This is not as simple as some Indians here think it is. This is a bouncy track and the ball was on an upward trajectory. I was actually watching it live and when I saw the side angle, I thought to myself, "this is probably clipping the bails". As it turned out, Hawkey thought it was just missing. Even if this was Hawekey's margin of error at work, the reaction from the Indian team and fans is unwarranted.

Also, as Pollock mentions in that video, Hawkey is an independent body and isn't controlled by CSA or SuperSport.
 
All i know is that Ajmal decision made me suspicious, and all technology can be tampered with.

Right, so common knowledge is that Hawkeye is a standard model which does not have any human involvement.

So, did ashwin and kohli just confirm that Hawkeye can be tampered with?
 
Looked out didn't it.

But regardless that was some pretty poor behaviour from the Indian players especially the skipper.

It will be interesting to see what the match referee does with this and what if any punishments are handed out.

Especially for the time they did it. They continued whinning till close of play.
 
I mean it was obviously out. But that is no way to react. Looks remarkably childish and immature.

At the end of the day Hawkeye is an independent organization that is relied on for these decisions. There is bound to be a margin for error or occasions when things go wrong. Doesn't mean you start making comments like that directed at the broadcaster.
 
Also, was Kohli accusing South Africa of ball-tampering? Because that is a pretty serious accusation to just throw out there.
 
ICC was organising the match and ICC had its own broadcaster.

ICC was susceptible to corruption. They knew viewership numbers would go down as soon as India got knocked out of the WC. There’s a reason why we haven’t had a WC in the Caribbean since 2007. ICC would gain nothing from Pakistan getting into the finals.
 
ICC was susceptible to corruption. They knew viewership numbers would go down as soon as India got knocked out of the WC. There’s a reason why we haven’t had a WC in the Caribbean since 2007. ICC would gain nothing from Pakistan getting into the finals.

So why is PCB playing for such a corrupt organization then?
 
Good, bad or whatever - this episode has casted doubt over host and DRS now

Life is not perfect, Virat shouldve accepted it, his aggression is useful for winning games and batting

I think the broadcasters are showing too much anti India stuff and less of SA, isnt that they are ****** abt
 
I mean it was obviously out. But that is no way to react. Looks remarkably childish and immature.

At the end of the day Hawkeye is an independent organization that is relied on for these decisions. There is bound to be a margin for error or occasions when things go wrong. Doesn't mean you start making comments like that directed at the broadcaster.

Hawkeye isnt independent. Its owned by Sony.

And Sony is involved in bidding for various cricket rights around the world.
 
Good, bad or whatever - this episode has casted doubt over host and DRS now

Life is not perfect, Virat shouldve accepted it, his aggression is useful for winning games and batting

I think the broadcasters are showing too much anti India stuff and less of SA, isnt that they are ****** abt

Supersport has been like that since forever.
 
I'm quite confident had any other team or set of players would have acted this way and blatantly blasted conspiracy theories on stump mic we would have seen action taken first from their respective boards and then from ICC.

Now what are the chances BCCI would reprimand Kohli and co. and what are the chances ICC would even go for a polite warning here? The answer is no, nothing would happen. It seems there is a separate set of rules for rest of cricketers and a separate set of rules for Indian team.
 
Can anyone please confirm if the broadcasters can actually change the ball's trajectory. I was under the impression that Hawkeye is a standard system all over the world and relies on its model to determine the trajectory.

Can anyone please confirm?

Also, Kohli was suggesting something else about catching the opposition. What was that about?
the ball tracking is dependent on tracking at least 3 frames after pitching or bouncing.
But the inaccuracy comes in if the ball impacts the player too soon after pitching and the 3 frames couldnt be captured. Then the trajectory cannot be accurately extrapolated.
But in a pitch like this with variable bounce, from the same spot, its interesting how the parameter would be calculated , if the speed could not be observed after pitching ?
Whats in the hands of the broadcaster , we don't know ? But calibration errors are not a unknown fact , whether deliberately or by incompetence.
The issue in this case is the speed of the spinner is very low.
It hits the batsman below the knee , at a relatively low speed , it was not a over pitched ball, the slope shown at this speed looks very steep for a spinner.
As others are saying, even fast bowlers are hitting the wicket from this spot. How is a spinner at 88 kmph bouncing over it ?

If you Google, famous case of ball tracking bungling a line call in tennis , as it has a 3.5 mm least count or error probability in layman's language. It gave a reading of 1 mm gap. When you cannot measure below 3.5 mm , how did they get the 1 mm gap ? So some parameters are being manipulated.
 
It looked out. But still the whole behaviour throughout that inning was over the top. A match fine would come for sure.

From Indian point of view, I must say that all the bit of sledging done by Kohli was quite hilarious in the game. He really got into the skin of Dean Elgar, reminding him of how he was trying to call off the Joburg test of 2018 and several other cheeky stuffs on continuous basis.

He knows what is on stakes and is gonna give everything to get it. Wish he would have understand that this situation won't have come had he been more ruthless in his selections of the two wannabe Dravid in that middle order.
 
I mean it was obviously out. But that is no way to react. Looks remarkably childish and immature.

At the end of the day Hawkeye is an independent organization that is relied on for these decisions. There is bound to be a margin for error or occasions when things go wrong. Doesn't mean you start making comments like that directed at the broadcaster.
lmao no it isn't.

I've seen similar deliveries not given before, people need to understand the stride (he's well outside the crease in this instance, maybe even close to the 2m limit for DRS) and bounce of a pitch make a massive difference.
 
Right, so common knowledge is that Hawkeye is a standard model which does not have any human involvement.

So, did ashwin and kohli just confirm that Hawkeye can be tampered with?

All other sports use it to track the actual ball path.

In cricket they use it for predicting the ball path.

Different things.
 
Didn't they show another delivery a couple of overs later, that was pitched in the same area and was also missing the stump via hawkeye?

It just shows that Hawkeye thinks the pitch thinks the bounce on the pitch is higher.

Its also sad to see just because Kohli and co have cried foul about Hawkeye we're getting interviews of players asking them if they trust Hawkeye. Any other country barring the known three, and we'd ignore it and move on.
does the Brazilian and the Pakistani football teams carry the same weight in football ?
 
India isn't complaining about the ICC. If BCCI had issues with ICC, the ICC board would be sitting tommorow to address it.

Didn’t say India were complaining about ICC.

India were complaining about the broadcasters. If the Indian team feels that the broadcasters are tampering with Hawkeye then don’t play?
 
Also, was Kohli accusing South Africa of ball-tampering? Because that is a pretty serious accusation to just throw out there.

Seemed to be suggesting that the broadcasters were monitoring the Indian fielders and not the home side.
 
Between, did he just accused South African bowlers of ball tampering too?

"Focus on your team also when they shine the bowl not just opposition".

:vk
 
Imagine a SENA team doing this, unbelievable. Indian cricketers think they're untouchable due to BCCI influence
 
Seemed to be suggesting that the broadcasters were monitoring the Indian fielders and not the home side.

Yes, sandpaper gate was also at Newlands iirc, and SuperSport had a big part to play in that. I'm sure they were hoping for something. Kohli's reaction was childish and immature though.
 
I'm quite confident had any other team or set of players would have acted this way and blatantly blasted conspiracy theories on stump mic we would have seen action taken first from their respective boards and then from ICC.

Now what are the chances BCCI would reprimand Kohli and co. and what are the chances ICC would even go for a polite warning here? The answer is no, nothing would happen. It seems there is a separate set of rules for rest of cricketers and a separate set of rules for Indian team.

don't see you whinging about the south African bowler throwing the ball directly at Pant , when Pant was standing straight up after hitting the ball ? It was a clear case of intimidation.
Guess your Pakistani is showing.
 
don't see you whinging about the south African bowler throwing the ball directly at Pant , when Pant was standing straight up after hitting the ball ? It was a clear case of intimidation.
Guess your Pakistani is showing.

Nothing wrong with throwing the ball at the batsman, Siraj did the same thing and got away with it
 
Maybe Ajmal should have done this when he got Tendulkar lbw in 2011, sorry just couldn’t help my self ;)
 
Imagine a SENA team doing this, unbelievable. Indian cricketers think they're untouchable due to BCCI influence

We have seen what Aussies and Englishmen do.

Someone needed to call out Supersport and Kohli just did.
 
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Shameful behaviour by team India.

Shameful display by Southafrican to change two decisions in favour .Rahul case was pure cheating no one can denied it ,same for today .Reason why they banned in cricket once and never won Any ICC tournament.
 
Didn’t say India were complaining about ICC.

India were complaining about the broadcasters. If the Indian team feels that the broadcasters are tampering with Hawkeye then don’t play?

Or next time Hawkeye wont be used when India plays anywhere. Or Hawkeye owners Sony dont get to bid for any cricket rights in India.

Two can play this game. No?
 
Shameful display by Southafrican to change two decisions in favour .Rahul case was pure cheating no one can denied it ,same for today .Reason why they banned in cricket once and never won Any ICC tournament.

If you have proof, send it to ICC instead of wasting your time crying on forums.
 
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