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[VIDEO/PICTURES] 'Focus on your team' : Virat Kohli lays into South African broadcaster

We have seen what Aussies and Englishmen do.

Someone needed to call out Supersport and Kohli just did.

And guess what, SS cant do jack about it.

Lol, this is like a child throwing a tantrum. SuperSport loves the drama and clicks. We've ended Rugby referee careers, and many fear for their life in SA, or aren't welcome (Bryce Lawrence). Never have a player cried like Kohli on live TV in any sports code though. I'm sure SS are laughing at this very moment.
 
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Shameful display by Southafrican to change two decisions in favour .Rahul case was pure cheating no one can denied it ,same for today .Reason why they banned in cricket once and never won Any ICC tournament.

Come to think of it. Umpiring has been dodgy since Dean Elgar went to meet the umpires in lunch break during that van der dussen episode.
 
Lol, this is like a child throwing a tantrum. SuperSport loves the drama and clicks. We've ended Rugby referee careers, and many fear for their life in SA, or aren't welcome (Bruce Lawrence). Never have a player cried like Kohli on live TV in any sports code though. I'm sure they're laughing at this very moment.

Supersport may have bitten far more than they can chew this time.

No one is afraid of them in bcci or India. But if India doesn't tour, CSA may be staring at bankruptcy.
 
If BCCI can manipulate broadcasters for example Star Sports then they dont have the right to complain if others do the same :ravi
 
Supersport may have bitten far more than they can chew this time.

No one is afraid of them in bcci or India. But if India doesn't tour, CSA may be staring at bankruptcy.

So you are suggesting BCCI wouldn't tour a country due to a lbw decision not going their way?
 
CSA deserves far worse than bankruptcy.

That's why I feel whatever happened is a very big thing. The top most cricketer of the richest board is openly calling out broadcaster in stump mic

Forget the mannerism etc, it's such a huge deal to do it. Kohli has 44.7m followers vs Population of SA which is around 60m

People in out part of the world are very emotional and blindly agree with whatever their hero says - Supersport did it or not, the blame game has begun and frankly any such close calls can be brought up by other teams as an example etc

I like Virat, it's due to his aggression that his team is winning, cold have handled more diplomatically but others joining in didn't help means there was something brewing between them and broadcaster

See it eitherway, man has balls or rather behind a powerful board to have the guts ( similar to Aussie and ECB )
 
So you are suggesting BCCI wouldn't tour a country due to a lbw decision not going their way?

I don't think its due to single episode which caused this, something seem to be brewing since the start
 
Was it out? Maybe, maybe not.
It looked out but then Ashwins second or third delivery of his spell bounced upto the top end of the thigh from a good length so you have to take the wicket into account.

However, we've all seen bad decisions over the years. It's. It's cricket and it happens.
What is indefensible is the behaviour of Kohli and some of his players. That was just awful and I agree with everyone who claims had it been players from any other country they would be looking at a hefty fine and a ban.

You simply can't shout into the wicket mic like that.
I would like to think that most people here agree with this even those that are deflecting and want to concentrate on the DRS rather then the actions of their players.
 
I don't think its due to single episode which caused this, something seem to be brewing since the start

Onc decision went in SA favor after the broadcaster refused to show zoom replay despite the umpire asking for 5-6 times. I found it strange. I could zoom in on my laptop and show, but broadcasters couldn't do that despite being asked so many times.

While I won't as far as to say that broadcasters are doing it on purpose, it looked bad.
 
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So you are suggesting BCCI wouldn't tour a country due to a lbw decision not going their way?

I still don't understand how a broadcaster can influence a DRS decision. Hawkeye is supposed to be an independent technology and the broadcaster is only in charge of controlling the feed; not the result of the technology. Unless, all this time, ICC has successfully managed to hide the fact that Hawkeye can be manipulated by the broadcasters....which would and should send shockwaves across the cricketing circles as that puts the whole DRS into doubt in terms of its impartiality.
 
I still don't understand how a broadcaster can influence a DRS decision. Hawkeye is supposed to be an independent technology and the broadcaster is only in charge of controlling the feed; not the result of the technology. Unless, all this time, ICC has successfully managed to hide the fact that Hawkeye can be manipulated by the broadcasters....which would and should send shockwaves across the cricketing circles as that puts the whole DRS into doubt in terms of its impartiality.

They did earlier in this series by not showing zoom replays despite being asked by the umpire 4-5 times. That would be the one way.

I am not aware if they have any other control. It would be problematic if broadcasters have any other control. They shouldn't have any control.

Yah, they can play the game of playing some replays multiple times and avoiding some replays, but that's less damaging. I have noticed that multiple times in multiple series.
 
If you don't even know From your eye then it's upto you

I said in my earlier post that it looked out, that’s my opinion. But, what you’re saying is that SA are cheating. How? If an umpire makes a decision then blame them, not the team.

Nobody calls Sachin a cheat for the Mohali incident.
 
I said in my earlier post that it looked out, that’s my opinion. But, what you’re saying is that SA are cheating. How? If an umpire makes a decision then blame them, not the team.

Nobody calls Sachin a cheat for the Mohali incident.

Rahul was out,Really ??that's shows your cricketing knowledge. :smith
 
They did earlier in this series by not showing zoom replays despite being asked by the umpire 4-5 times. That would be the one way.

I am not aware if they have any other control. It would be problematic if broadcasters have any other control. They shouldn't have any control.

Yah, they can play the game of playing some replays multiple times and avoiding some replays, but that's less damaging. I have noticed that multiple times in multiple series.

Okay, got it. I was assuming that Ashwin's comment was in reference to that Dean Elgar DRS decision only because, as I understand it, he said it right after the decision was reversed. I don't think the broadcaster didn't show all the required/requested angles...so, he comment must be directed at the Hawkeye's result?
 
Okay, got it. I was assuming that Ashwin's comment was in reference to that Dean Elgar DRS decision only because, as I understand it, he said it right after the decision was reversed. I don't think the broadcaster didn't show all the required/requested angles...so, he comment must be directed at the Hawkeye's result?

I wasn't watching live at that moment so don't know exactly what happened. Surely poor comments from Indians here even if they had issues. Just raise it with officials rather than shouting like that.

Earlier in the series, the umpire asked for zoom multiple times and the broadcaster did not show. It looked very poor to me even though I did not see many talking about it. I have seen broadcasters trying to downplay poor decisions in favor of home teams by not showing replays, but I had never seen broadcasters not showing zoom replay when the umpire is asking for it so many times.

I am not aware if they adjust something for bounce etc, but if they can then it will be horrible for cricket.
 
Weren't Indian fans laughing at bangla fans for crying about a Rohit Sharma no-ball missed call in world cup 2015? Lmao now look at the hypocrisy. Maybe Indian players should use all that money to take some courses on How to Behave as a Sportman (or a Confident Adult).
 
Weren't Indian fans laughing at bangla fans for crying about a Rohit Sharma no-ball missed call in world cup 2015? Lmao now look at the hypocrisy. Maybe Indian players should use all that money to take some courses on How to Behave as a Sportman (or a Confident Adult).

Maybe you should first learn to different between on field umpire mistake and Change the technology in favour to get a result by host broadcast .
 
Maybe you should first learn to different between on field umpire mistake and Change the technology in favour to get a result by host broadcast .

You are making allegations and deflecting from Indian players extremely bad behaviour
 
Its shocking behaviour by all involved especially a nations captain

One of the worst behaviours ive seen in a long time
If kohli isnt banned id be very very shocked
 
Good, bad or whatever - this episode has casted doubt over host and DRS now

Life is not perfect, Virat shouldve accepted it, his aggression is useful for winning games and batting

I think the broadcasters are showing too much anti India stuff and less of SA, isnt that they are ****** abt

This episode has only exposed the fragility of Indian players....1 decision goes against them and these crybabies lose their heads and start accusing the whole country of conspiring against them...bunch of idiots
 
Not seen the ball..it was probably out most likely.

But, over the top from all the players.
 
Everyone accepted Kohli's arrogant and childish behaviour when he was on his peak and was scoring centuries for fun but things have changed now. He is finding it hard to score runs these days so none of us are going to accept this behaviour. :inti

So true. Charhte suraj ko salaam hai
 
Any other country and thered be bans handed out for such deplorable behaviour

Lets see what ICC and the match referee do
 
Lol giving them exactly what they want. Super Sport took down Australian cricket for a standing 8 count lest we forget.

I remember Gilchrist had a strategy of promoting brands opposing to the series sponsors to keep the stump turned down.
 
Also why no one talking about India's cheating in prior matches - claiming catches that hit the ground?
 
I still don't understand how a broadcaster can influence a DRS decision. Hawkeye is supposed to be an independent technology and the broadcaster is only in charge of controlling the feed; not the result of the technology. Unless, all this time, ICC has successfully managed to hide the fact that Hawkeye can be manipulated by the broadcasters....which would and should send shockwaves across the cricketing circles as that puts the whole DRS into doubt in terms of its impartiality.

I think the broadcaster controls it only when the decision is not in India's favour. Then 100% confirmed.
 
Supersport may have bitten far more than they can chew this time.

No one is afraid of them in bcci or India. But if India doesn't tour, CSA may be staring at bankruptcy.

You talk like a plutocracy has never failed. But please carry on. I'm sure your wild imagination of India as some sort of heaving behemoth who everyone should cower around will bear a lot of fruit and can't possibly go wrong.
 
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As for the behaviour, that has got to be the most cringe worthy and embarrassing ever witnessed on a live feed. You are yelling into an inanimate object, blaming camerapersons just doing their jobs. Reminds me of the behaviour some customers display with retail workers after they can't help them. Just wow, this Indian team is an unlikeable bunch.
 
Look firstly I can totally understand India’s frustration at that decision - it did look plumb hitting the stumps.

Secondly I’m not a Kohli hater by any means - I can identify with his Punjabi style aggression but above all he can back it up with his performances. And off the field he seems a chill guy too.

But this was inexcusable behaviour. It’s not on because he’s a role model to so many young Indian fans in particular so he’s setting a really poor example for them if things don’t go your way.

I hope he reflects on this later and regrets it. This is simply not acceptable, especially a captain of a major cricket team.
 
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I dont care one way or another if it was out or not out, but this graphic is wrong, the bounce of a ball from a bowler will not continue in a straight projection, gravity will curve the bounce.
 
Poor behaviour from Virat. Loser tactic to blame the broadcaster. Can't believe I'm saying this but Gambhir was right to call him immature over this.
 
As a Pakistani, this whole situation is hilarious... remember Tendulkars plumb LBW against Ajmal that was given not out - no way DRS could be wrong or manipulated according to the Indians then... hahaha what are you guys complaining about now then!?! :srt

Totally outrageous behaviour on the field - will they be seriously be sanctioned or will the ICC turn a blind eye because its India?
 
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As a Pakistani, this whole situation is hilarious... remember Tendulkars plumb LBW against Ajmal that was given not out - no way DRS could be wrong or manipulated according to the Indians then... hahaha what are you guys complaining about now then!?! :srt

Totally outrageous behaviour on the field - will they be seriously be sanctioned or will the ICC turn a blind eye because its India?

Not sure I understand the comparison. That was an world cup event controlled by the ICC.

DRS has also improved over time.

This is a bilateral test and Super Sport has a reputation for favoring the home team.
 
Not sure I understand the comparison. That was an world cup event controlled by the ICC.

DRS has also improved over time.

This is a bilateral test and Super Sport has a reputation for favoring the home team.

If Super Sport can tamper with Hawkeye then so can the broadcasters for the WC. ICC would do anything to make sure India reaches the final.

ICC has a reputation for favouring India.
 
As a Pakistani, this whole situation is hilarious... remember Tendulkars plumb LBW against Ajmal that was given not out - no way DRS could be wrong or manipulated according to the Indians then... hahaha what are you guys complaining about now then!?! :srt

Totally outrageous behaviour on the field - will they be seriously be sanctioned or will the ICC turn a blind eye because its India?

They have always been hypocrites when it comes to conspiracy theories. They act like only Pakistanis believe in conspiracy theories, but meantime if they looked in the mirror it would be no better.
 
Still want to know what Virat meant when he said, "Focus on your team while they shine the ball."
 
The same way saeed Ajmals delivery magically missed the leg stump even Indians agree to that so it’s technology it sometimes makes you lose a test match and sometimes makes you win a World Cup deal with it



As we always say 'Indians phir ro rahay hain'

When that Sachin dismissal was overturned, same Indian posters called Pak posters all sorts of names and refused to accept that there was anything dodgy. I guess when the shoe is on the other foot, it is not a happy situation!

Let's hope SA wins, then this crying will get even louder lol
 
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They have always been hypocrites when it comes to conspiracy theories. They act like only Pakistanis believe in conspiracy theories, but meantime if they looked in the mirror it would be no better.

Exactly! Look at their reaction now.
 
I hope some of the players will get banned or at least fined. Kohli surely deserves a ban.
 
As we always say 'Indians phir ro rahay hain'

When that Sachin dismissal was overturned, same Indian posters called Pak posters all sorts of names and refused to accept that there was anything dodgy. I guess when the shoe is on the other foot, it is not a happy situation!

Let's hope SA wins, then this crying will get even louder lol

Totally man, I wasn't even following the series but would love for SA to win now just for the reaction!
 
Absolutely pathetic behavior from the entire team. Yes, I myself was taken by surprise when that ball showed missing the stumps but this is not the way to behave.

Very embarrassing.
 
Stupid behaviour and when ultra rich cricketers start being self sympathetic (whole country against 11 men bla bla), you know they are going to loose. Only people more stupid than Indian cricketers are Indian cricketers' fans, who have some weird arguments - ball can't go over the stump, ball hit him below the knee roll so he's plumb bla bla. Ashwin being the crybaby he has always been, can't find a wicket outside India so blame someone for failure - the captain, the coach, the weather, the pitch, the fitness and if nothing else works then the host broadcasters.
 
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without speed , the graphic is meaningless.
At this distance, a fast bowler at 140 kmph hits the stumps.
But here a 88 kmph delivery is going over ?
 
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Hahaha. I love it when internet scientists draw straight lines and feel smug about it.

The purpose of these technologies is to assess the bounce offered by the surface at different speeds and keep learning as more data is received. Then they make a prediction.

But of course, in your world, every cricket ball would shoot into space if the wicketkeeper didn't get in its way :)))
 
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If u plot it further with ur intelligence, then m guessing ball will eventually be going into the space 🚀 because the line will keep going up up and up?

Btw, i think drs made a fair decision, or atleast decision without any ulterior motive but the pic u hav posted is hilarious 😂
 
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You talk like a plutocracy has never failed. But please carry on. I'm sure your wild imagination of India as some sort of heaving behemoth who everyone should cower around will bear a lot of fruit and can't possibly go wrong.

Well India is a behemoth in cricket and it saved two boards from bankruptcy in 12 months

First CA last year.

Now CSA this year.
 
Didn't shardul thakur also get a reprieve because of DRS looking not 100%. I didn't see any SA complaining in stump mics about it. I believe DRS technology used in this series might be inaccurate but i don't believe there is any ulterior motive around it. People don't get it that to manipulate technology you would need help of a lot of people and secrets can't stay if shared with more than 1 person. Kohli and his teammates should man up and try to win the match, which i think they still can, and not act like rich crybabies of world cricket.
 
Well India is a behemoth in cricket and it saved two boards from bankruptcy in 12 months

First CA last year.

Now CSA this year.

India didn't do anyone any favour by touring countries. If boards go bankrupt, thanks to 3 months of cricket taken over by IPL, then who would india play against? It's a matter of shame and not pride or joy that because of IPL and India's behaviour, other teams are suffering.
 
India didn't do anyone any favour by touring countries. If boards go bankrupt, thanks to 3 months of cricket taken over by IPL, then who would india play against? It's a matter of shame and not pride or joy that because of IPL and India's behaviour, other teams are suffering.

Oh India did favours.

No one is touring SA. England ran away and Australia refused to come. Ali Bacher the former CSA chairman said

Former South Africa captain and a key figure in his country's cricket administration, Ali Bacher, has raised a toast to India for playing the ongoing series amidst the global pandemic.

"I don't believe any other country will come to South Africa now [in the pandemic]. I don't believe so," he stressed. "We have had experiences before. This is an indication of the great closeness between Indian and South African cricket, which started in 1991."


CA was staring at a 300mn dollar loss and was sacking people and cutting costs before India toured them despite severe restrictions and other issues in Australia.

Countries are cancelling tours left right and center at present. India kept its commitments.

Cry me a river on the IPL. Except England no other country has a active season during April and May.
 
Lol giving them exactly what they want. Super Sport took down Australian cricket for a standing 8 count lest we forget.

I remember Gilchrist had a strategy of promoting brands opposing to the series sponsors to keep the stump turned down.

India and BCCI are not Cricket Australia.

It will only take a small spark to fan up nationalistic fire in India and then Naspers will be running around trying to put it out and save their investments in India.
 
Hahaha. I love it when internet scientists draw straight lines and feel smug about it.

The purpose of these technologies is to assess the bounce offered by the surface at different speeds and keep learning as more data is received. Then they make a prediction.

But of course, in your world, every cricket ball would shoot into space if the wicketkeeper didn't get in its way :)))

Hawkeye doesn't learn at all. All it does is apply gravity to the path of the balls post bounce trajectory, what it does before or during the bounce is irrelevant.
 
Questions Questions Questions!!

-Is the ICC going to launch an investigation into Kohli, Ashwin? Or will they be taking their orders from "above"?
-Is the ICC going to investigate the DRS decision?
-Is the ICC going to investigate the broadcaster (for not showing zoom)?
-What does this do the the BCCI - CSA relationship? Will there be any grovelling involved in the near future?
-What are the comentators going to do about the Kohli statement? Have not heard from them. So are they taking it like they did not hear anything?
 
Such a cry baby and blackmailer indian fans and cricketers are. One decision against them and they are reacting as if these things are happening to them only.
 
Its funny where you can see 50+ noballs in the series and never shown replay of the wicket ones on big screens
 
Any other country and thered be bans handed out for such deplorable behaviour

Lets see what ICC and the match referee do

I have to guess we will be waiting on the ICC for a loooong time.
 
Its shocking behaviour by all involved especially a nations captain

One of the worst behaviours ive seen in a long time
If kohli isnt banned id be very very shocked

Well... prepared to be shocked. The ICC has zero backbone.
 
Both should be missing at least a couple of Tests.

They would be if they played for another country. No doubt.

Let's see what ICC does.

It's pathetic.

I hope SA and Supersport pushes for the Indian players to get punished. Match fees gone and at least 2-3 match bans for bringing the game into disrepute.

I hope you are not counting on the ICC. Perhaps CSA should lead the investigation, punishments and fines.
 
I still don't understand how a broadcaster can influence a DRS decision. Hawkeye is supposed to be an independent technology and the broadcaster is only in charge of controlling the feed; not the result of the technology. Unless, all this time, ICC has successfully managed to hide the fact that Hawkeye can be manipulated by the broadcasters....which would and should send shockwaves across the cricketing circles as that puts the whole DRS into doubt in terms of its impartiality.

Hawkeye is independent and employs its own experts for each tour, with theoretically no direct influence from the host broadcaster. Sony owns Hawkeye, but is not a host broadcaster for any ICC member at present.

The issue is that the host broadcaster provides the feed and camera angles for Hawkeye to run its predictive simulations, the biggest risk is that the assessment of the point of impact on the pad is incorrect due to a faulty camera angle, leading to an incorrect simulation as the starting point is incorrect or pure guesswork (when the feed isn't reliable due to technical glitches).

Hawkeye's simulations aren't foolproof, but the usual threats from a few Indian supporters to boycott South African cricket or pull sponsorships from Supersport just betrays the mentality of small-minded individuals brought up in a bubble.
 
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Questions Questions Questions!!

-Is the ICC going to launch an investigation into Kohli, Ashwin? Or will they be taking their orders from "above"?
-Is the ICC going to investigate the DRS decision?
-Is the ICC going to investigate the broadcaster (for not showing zoom)?
-What does this do the the BCCI - CSA relationship? Will there be any grovelling involved in the near future?
-What are the comentators going to do about the Kohli statement? Have not heard from them. So are they taking it like they did not hear anything?

1. Investigate what? Did Kohli or Ashwin raise questions on any ICC official? Or is the broadcaster protected by Icc laws?

2. They may.

3. They should investigate supersport. They should have done it Long time back.

4. What powers do commies have? All they will do is give their opinion.
 
Hawkeye is independent and employs its own experts for each tour, with theoretically no direct influence from the host broadcaster. Sony owns Hawkeye, but is not a host broadcaster for any ICC member at present.

The issue is that the host broadcaster provides the feed and camera angles for Hawkeye to run its predictive simulations, the biggest risk is that the assessment of the point of impact on the pad is incorrect due to a faulty camera angle, leading to an incorrect simulation as the starting point is incorrect or pure guesswork (when the feed isn't reliable due to technical glitches).

Hawkeye's simulations aren't foolproof, but the usual threats from a few Indian supporters to boycott South African cricket or pull sponsorships from Supersport just betrays the mentality of small-minded individuals brought up in a bubble.

Hawkeye provide and setup their own cameras. They've got to be higher fps than the standard broadcast cameras to get as many data points as possible.
 
Its funny where you can see 50+ noballs in the series and never shown replay of the wicket ones on big screens

Now that no balls are checked by umpires in real times it's completely standard not to check them after wickets/during reviews because it's not needed.
 
Hawkeye provide and setup their own cameras. They've got to be higher fps than the standard broadcast cameras to get as many data points as possible.

That is correct, but there is still reliance on the host broadcaster to operate those cameras and provide the link-up with the feed.

When Australia toured South Africa last, Supersport ran a very insightful segment on how they link up Hawkeye's operations with the feed, and the biggest risk that was highlighted by the Hawkeye operators was the assessment of the point of impact as that cannot be totally objective.
 
Hawkeye is independent and employs its own experts for each tour, with theoretically no direct influence from the host broadcaster. Sony owns Hawkeye, but is not a host broadcaster for any ICC member at present.

The issue is that the host broadcaster provides the feed and camera angles for Hawkeye to run its predictive simulations, the biggest risk is that the assessment of the point of impact on the pad is incorrect due to a faulty camera angle, leading to an incorrect simulation as the starting point is incorrect or pure guesswork (when the feed isn't reliable due to technical glitches).

Hawkeye's simulations aren't foolproof, but the usual threats from a few Indian supporters to boycott South African cricket or pull sponsorships from Supersport just betrays the mentality of small-minded individuals brought up in a bubble.

Sony owns Hawkeye and it bids for various cricket rights. Till a year ago they owned the rights to show SA cricket in India. They still own the rights to show Australia and English cricket in India. They also own the TEN sports network.

So no, they are not independent exactly.

Your second point is correct.

India and BCCI is not cricket Australia, they will not be bullied by some south african broadcaster nor will they become characters for supersport's click bait attempts. Supersport has been accused various times in the past of biased broadcasting.

They may have escaped with their actions in the past, bcci and India have enough resources to impose costs on supersports. Standing upto a bully broadcaster like supersport is not being small minded or being brought up in a bubble. Its telling SS that their job is to shoot and broadcast in a fair manner.
 
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With Virat Kohli its jungle law.

All what he said could have been expressed to ICC/Match Ref etc but was done for showmanship.

For that speaking to the stump mic stuff, he needs to be banned for a while as do the other Indian players who chimed in.
 
With Virat Kohli its jungle law.

All what he said could have been expressed to ICC/Match Ref etc but was done for showmanship.

For that speaking to the stump mic stuff, he needs to be banned for a while as do the other Indian players who chimed in.

And why should he be banned? Did he question the umpires or the match referee?

Or is the Broadcaster protected by ICC rules?
 
Sony owns Hawkeye and it bids for various cricket rights. Till a year ago they owned the rights to show SA cricket in India. They still own the rights to show Australia and English cricket in India. They also own the TEN sports network.

So no, they are not independent exactly.

Your second point is correct.

India and BCCI is not cricket Australia, they will not be bullied by some south african broadcaster nor will they become characters for supersport's click bait attempts. Supersport has been accused various times in the past of biased broadcasting.

They may have escaped with their actions in the past, bcci and India have enough resources to impose costs on supersports. Standing upto a bully broadcaster like supersport is not being small minded or being brought up in a bubble. Its telling SS that their job is to shoot and broadcast in a fair manner.

Sony are not host broadcaster for any ICC member at the moment, there is a clear degree of separation between the television production for countries (Australia, England, Pakistan, Sri Lanka) that it holds broadcasting rights in India.
 
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