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[VIDEO] Teenager Naseem Shah bowls hostile spell in his second FC match, takes 6/59 against PTV
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He bowls a bouncer from just short of good length. Always a good sign as a bowler but he needs to be careful with his back.
TO those watching:
How do you judge if a bowler's quick or military medium? Look at the carry to the keeper and where the keeper's standing..
This boy looks QUICK. Even at this age.
And that's a good sign. We cannot really judge how well he'll be able to move the kookaburra ball, the seam movement in the video is nice though.
But if he's indeed pacy, that' a good sign. He's hurrying the batsmen and good carry to the keeper.
How do you judge if a bowler's quick or military medium? Look at the carry to the keeper and where the keeper's standing..
This boy looks QUICK. Even at this age.
And that's a good sign. We cannot really judge how well he'll be able to move the kookaburra ball, the seam movement in the video is nice though.
But if he's indeed pacy, that' a good sign. He's hurrying the batsmen and good carry to the keeper.
That's the real tragedy courtesy PSL.
Unfortunately, we've stopped picking players primarily from FC/List A and focusing entire energy on the PSL. It's very, very wrong.
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Well said... Inzi the revolutionary cannot be bothered to pick players from domestics, he only knows off them if they play and perform in the PSL, unless ofcourse they are related to them. Then they get a free pass to all three formats.
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Rather than toil aimlessly in domestic cricket and pick up injuries or wear and tear through misuse, mismanagement and bowling tons of overs, if he is really good, should be drafted into the national team like Shaheen immediately.
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He pulls out of his action early, so it east to spot the outswinger, because its goes early. Probably needs to run in a little further before letting go of the ball so that he gets late swing.
Looks great with the bounce & movement, but probably a bit too short too often. May be this clip collected most of the short staff.
A must for 4 day & List A games against Lions, after that may be in SAF with squad - why not? He won’t learn much from playing at home that time after QeA season is over.
A must for 4 day & List A games against Lions, after that may be in SAF with squad - why not? He won’t learn much from playing at home that time after QeA season is over.
Bowling (releasing) close to stick, he’ll always get some away movement. Kapil Dev had an uncanny nack of bowling outswingers even with few steps run up.
Well done - can’t you do that for Saud, Gohar, Arshad, Umair Masood & Sameen Gul as well? revolutionary might not ever know their details, because I think, he’ll get sacked before digging that level of details (here details means knowing the top domestic performers from U23 batch, which I believe is almost like mining for crude oil for him).
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Great stuff. This guy is easily more talented than shaheen shah, beats him in pace, movement, bounce altogether
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yes, but right now it swings right from the hand so seems easy to read.
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Finally a proper huge talent from pak bowling armory since young Muhammad Amir. But his action scares me though.
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Let him play u19 and then psl then maybe we can pick him up for the main side as a backup and train him.
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Actually he is faster and swings it more than 16 year old Muhammad Amir
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Even though M.Amir was able to clock 140k at 16 he definitely wasn't able to scare the batsmen like Naseem consistently doing in both u19 and fc level.
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The way batsmen are ducking and swaying out of the way is testament to this guy's raw pace. These are FC cricketers, not club level batters. Strong action. Looks more promising than Shaheen, but that could be because he is bowling on a pitch helpful to the pacers.
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Geez, I wouldn't want to face him when he is bowling from around the wickets. Looks deadly. Can we take him to SA?
That might be due to the ball used. Also at Pindi, in October you should expect banana swing.
I am not saying kid doesn’t need to improve, but what he has now is quite impressive, a solid base from where he can progress - now needs to make sure that his body sustains & he learns how to get batsmen out when they are trying to survive - this won’t happen from PSL to be honest.
Imrana should know this hypocrite and kick him out.Ehsan Mani has been crap so far.
I know but we have revolutionary inzi who only knows players in psl and that too when someone tells hom otherwsie he even does not know their names.
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Looks good, loving the banana out swingers and I wouldn’t be surprised if he is noticed by a county for next year. Could be a deadly bowler in English, seaming conditions
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A guy who can really swing it both ways.
Look at 2:04 to 2:11.
He's also bringing the ball back in to the right handers.
Excellent.
Can wreak havoc in England.
That, and I thought he looks similar to M. Sami's action as well!
He's also bringing the ball back in to the right handers.
Excellent.
Can wreak havoc in England.
That, and I thought he looks similar to M. Sami's action as well!
Probably, can't say personally.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] what's your guess on his pace?
Have you seen him play live? Or are you guessing from the vids?
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Good wrist position and good pace.
Hope he doesnt toil in the domestic for another ten years before getting a chance. :cheema
Hope he doesnt toil in the domestic for another ten years before getting a chance. :cheema
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[MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] of course from vids
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Pitch ki karaamoti.... Pakistan will never be a no 1 with these kind of pitches where ball moves and bounces miles in both ways just due to the pitch itself. Nothing to be excited by seeing this video.
Couple of years back Andy Roberts came to Pakistan for some sort of cricket camp.
He was raving about a 16 year old fast bowler named Nasim.
“I must say that I very much liked a young fast bowler by the name of Nasim. He is just 16-year-old. I am sorry that I did not have at least two, three weeks’ time to work with him,” the 65-year-old Antiguan, who is also known as Sir Anderson after being appointed a Knight Commander of the Order of Nation by his country in February 2014.
“This fellow is very aggressive, he has real pace and he is so young. Once he has the passion and he maintains it, he will reach well. He is a very good prospect,” he said.
https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1288422
He was raving about a 16 year old fast bowler named Nasim.
“I must say that I very much liked a young fast bowler by the name of Nasim. He is just 16-year-old. I am sorry that I did not have at least two, three weeks’ time to work with him,” the 65-year-old Antiguan, who is also known as Sir Anderson after being appointed a Knight Commander of the Order of Nation by his country in February 2014.
“This fellow is very aggressive, he has real pace and he is so young. Once he has the passion and he maintains it, he will reach well. He is a very good prospect,” he said.
https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1288422
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no disagreement with this
I am in regular touch with Mickey - sending him vids etc of a number of players.
Well the batsmen couldn't read them so you must be pretty good.
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Not convinced by keep an eye out on him. That means toiling away in domestic cricket and getting lost at the NCA at the mercy of the poor underachieving coaches.
When Wasim was spotted in the nets as a net bowler, he was selected in the squad to NZ in 1984 instantly. When IK spotted Waqar on tv in 1989, he had barely played 2-3 first class games and was getting tonked around the park, but IK immediately demanded that he be called into training camp immediately.
When Imran saw Inzamam in the trials in 1991, he instantly demanded Inzi to be selected in his team immediately and one of the selectors even resigned saying that they had selected Inzi in the U-19 team and a domestic game where he failed badly.
Our domestic cricket does nothing for the development for players especially pace bowlers. Pacers should be selected immediately and be thoroughly looked after.
To be honest I keep our chat mainly to talent in Pakistan, upcoming players to watch, guys doing well in domestic etc rather than quizzing him about tactics, team selection etc.
I am hoping that by making Micky Arthur and Azhar Mahmood aware of Naseem Shah, he can be fast-tracked to international cricket like Shaheen Afridi has been.
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1 to keep an eye out on. Will probably need to be fast tracked if he carries on like this. Won't learn nothing from QEA.
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Videos are of exceptionally poor quality and are running on a speed breaker.
Cricinfo doesn't think he's a pacer as they've labelled him a mere right arm medium.
Cricinfo doesn't think he's a pacer as they've labelled him a mere right arm medium.
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I don't see many right arm medium bowlers making batsmen hop around like this lad does. Might not move the ball as much he is doing in this video with a Kookaburra in his hand, but the pace is definitely there and seems like he bowls a heavy ball.
Cricinfo's word is gospel. Ok
I've not seen too many medium pacers making batsmen jump and hop around like this. Or wicket-keepers taking the ball on the rise like this kid is doing.
You don't need 4k to get a fair idea of the speed. Just look at the batsmen and the keeper. He does indeed bowl a heavy bowl. Quite easy to see that he's considerably faster than Shaheen, for example.
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Pace at this young age means nothing, how long can he maintain and sustain it? So many pacers lose pace considerably after injuries and wear and tear of bowling in today's demanding cricketing schedule, era of flat pitches
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Which is why it's important to fast track him into training camps for the national team. Educate him about proper nutrition and the right training regime. If properly taken care of, this lad might go on to become a genuine speedster.
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Was expecting everyone to be jumping on me saying this.
I didn't say that "I" think he is a medium pacer but he has something about him that is exciting to see. He has a bit of pace as he's still just 15 and the more he will be playing he will be getting better and fitter as he grows.
I rarely get excited by the "Talent Spotter" type of threads on PP. This guy has seriously got me excited. We've got a genuine quickie on our hands if our cricketing setup doesn't mess it up and he keeps himself fit and hungry.
A lot of "if"s but there's some serious potential here.
A lot of "if"s but there's some serious potential here.
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Another thing I would put in is after just seeing some of his pictures in this thread doubt he is 15, he does look like 17-18.
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As I said in the above post that there is something about him.
He just needs to be practicing with the right coaches and trained by so he can actually catch up with the others.
His action is a bit worrying as the back seems to take a lot of strain with that.
That I agree with. He's probably 18.
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Shane Bond has 2 back surgeries during his career
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He is 17 (and a half).
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We have seen plenty of good talent go to waste as soon as we tweak their bowling actions. As long as he has a good outswinger at pace and he is bowling good lines, he will still be handy even if batsman knows that an outswinger is coming.
May be effort ball touching 140K. Most balls are like 134-136k, which is more than enough for U19 kids
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The leg cutters were brilliant.. they look like really fast leg breaks.. he is seaming them away quite sharply.
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Please don’t fast track him into the national side. I want him to be a world class test bowler and for that he needs to play at least 40 first class games. He’s got age on his side so he can wait a few years. Playing him in T20s and LOIs will stop him from developing a temperament for the longer format. The reason why our pacers fizzles out so early in their carriers is because of the fact that they don’t play enough first class cricket to develop that patience and temperament a first class season can provide. By the time they develop a temperament for the longer format our experts find some new youngsta beauty and the previous batch of pacers is completely discarded. Junaid Khan is one case in point.
He definitely seems faster than than. Most balls seem to me to be hovering around the 140 mark.
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Great Work [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] Bhai.. Carry on this work and tell coaches and selectors of the young upcoming talent so they could take notice of this and give them chances..
May be, I played safe here instead of riding hype train. For PAK pacers, along with speed gun reading, we also need to know at what percentage the footage is rushed up.
I think, speed is a bit over discussed & over boasted thing in PP - it hardly matters unless that speed is in genuine 150K+. More or less, average speed of 134K, with effort ball reaching 140K+ is more than enough if the RADAR is working and bowling skills & intelligence are there - Jimmi Anderson operates slower than that in both measures, while Wahab Riaz is considerably faster. This kid already has reached critical speed and he should get a little faster with better guidance, therefore I think it hardly matters what his speed is - his focus should be o become a wicket taking pacer, not speed gun hero. It'll be more helpful for him, if speed gun is taken out of his games.
There's been a huge amount of controversy about the poor quality of Pakistani domestic pitches. Unfortunately it is difficult to judge this youngster due to this fact alone - is it him or is it the ridiculous pitch? I'm hoping it's him.
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Did he play in the u19 Asia Cup? And if not, why not since he is playing FC already?
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A PTV player says that he is good. However, there's no speedguns to be able to give an estimation of his speed.
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He did.
I just watched a Junaid Khan video from the same tournament.
And he too looked 'fast' from the carry and bounce. So, now I agree with you. Most balls seem to be in early to mid 130s here.
Would love to see him under a speed camera. But I doubt most deliveries would be 140+.
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Thank you. Did he fare well there? According to an article at Cricinfo he is just 15!?
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He is 17 and a half. You can see more info on him in the Talent Spotter thread: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?277281
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Yup. Looks around 17-18,easily.
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He has all the ingredients including good movement(although could be because of the pitch) . Has a decent height too.
If he currently bowls around 135 that is pretty good and something that can be worked upon.
If he currently bowls around 135 that is pretty good and something that can be worked upon.
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will break his back with this action but will be good if we can use his 4 to 5 years of good pace
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