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Prime Minister Imran Khan reached Muzaffarabad on Wednesday as part of the government's decision to observe this year's Independence Day in solidarity with Kashmiris in light of India's move to annex occupied Kashmir.

The premier addressed a special session of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir legislative assembly, presided over by Speaker Shah Ghulam Qadir.

"On the day of Pakistan's independence, I am with my Kashmiri brothers and sisters," he said at the outset of his address.

The premier said that in a series of tweets, he had unveiled the "real face of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) before the world".

Read: 'RSS ideology of Hindu supremacy will lead to suppression of Muslims in India and to targeting of Pakistan'

"There is a terrifying ideology in front of us today — the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) party's ideology, which Modi has been a member of from childhood.

"In this ideology, like the Nazis, the ethnic cleansing of Muslims from India was also included. If you understand this ideology, a lot of things can be understood.

"Quaid-i-Azam rose above a person's religion; he was thinking about every person's independence after the British left.

"In the past five years, the cruelty in occupied Kashmir was due to this ideology. This card [revoking Article 370] played by Narendra Modi was the final solution," he said, referring to India's move to downgrade occupied Kashmir’s status.

"We are all fearful about what we will find out once the curfew is lifted in occupied Kashmir. What are they attempting to do?

"Narendra Modi has made a strategic blunder. He has played his final card. They have internationalised Kashmir. It used to be very hard to speak about Kashmir.

"Now the world's eye is on Kashmir and on Pakistan [...] I will be the ambassador who raises Kashmir's voice.

"We need to inform the world of RSS's ideology. After 1945, the United Nations, the Geneva Convention were created. The world decided that this should never happen in the world again. The world doesn't know that the RSS ideology is as dangerous [as Nazi ideology]."

"A normal person cannot make the type of statements being made about the women of Kashmir," said Prime Minister Imran.

"This [RSS] ideology has undermined the constitution of India. They [BJP government] have controlled the media. Opposition leaders are speaking with fear.

"RSS thugs do not let people attend conferences, judges are scared of them. This used to happen in Nazi Germany.

"Intellectuals are scared of speaking about the government. They [BJP] are taking India towards destruction. People are living in fear in India."

Speaking of Kashmiri leaders, he said those who used to be pro-India, such as Farooq Abdullah, are now in agreement with Quaid-i-Azam's two-nation theory.

Agreeing with the AJK prime minister, who spoke before Prime Minister Imran, he said: "This will not stop in Kashmir — this will come towards Pakistan."

"We have information and we have had two National Security Committee (NSC) meetings. The Pakistan Army has full knowledge [...] India has made a plan to take action in AJK," he shared.

Addressing Indian Prime Minister Modi, the premier said: "You take action and this is my message: every brick will be countered with a stone."

"We will respond to whatever you do, we will go till the end."

Prime Minister Imran said that Modi had declared that his government would bring prosperity to Kashmir by revoking Article 370, likening it to how Adolf Hitler used to speak.

"Listen to the speeches of Jawaharlal Nehru, the promises he made to Kashmiris — they have all been rejected.

"Our message to international organisations that were formed to prevent wars is that if this war takes place, you will be responsible."

He said that the whole world, including the entire Muslim population in the world, was looking towards the United Nations.

"You will see the numbers in which the public will come out during the United Nations General Assembly in September."

"Whatever was done during the curfew by India, we will tell the international community that you are responsible. Whichever forum we get, I will be the ambassador and bring up Kashmir at every forum," he said, adding: "God willing, after this final card that Modi has played, now Kashmir will go towards independence."

He reiterated that war does not solve anything, only leads to further problems. The premier said his government, when it came into power, tried its best to bring India to the dialogue table "because our issues are the same".

"But they have no interest [in dialogue]; their interest is only to 'teach Pakistan a lesson'. They are filled with hate.

"In the end, I want to pay tribute to Quaid-i-Azam [...] the whole nation is indebted to him. Today, we are living in an independent country. He knew he didn't have long to live because of his illness but he didn't let anyone find out and negotiated till the end.

"We thank him, honour him and pledge that Pakistan was made for a purpose. What were we supposed to do with this free country? To become an example [...] to model ourselves after the state of Madina.

"Those in Pakistan who covert people to Islam by force, like the RSS does with Hinduism, they are going against Islam. Our religion is not racist, it is not narrow-minded — and that was the purpose of Pakistan."

Prime Minister Imran ended his speech by addressing Modi again: "Don't be under any misconception; you think Kashmiris will accept defeat because you passed a law but they have become battle-hardened. Their fear is gone. We saw that they came out on the streets, from whatever little we could see on BBC; only a brave nation can come out this way.

"Modi, you can't enslave Kashmiris and as for your plan in AJK to teach Pakistan a lesson, be ready, I repeat that we will counter your brick with a stone.

"The time has come for us to teach you a lesson," warned the premier.

Upon arrival in Muzaffarabad, the premier was received by AJK's President Sardar Masood Khan and Prime Minister Raja Farooq Haider. He received a guard of honour at the welcome ceremony.

Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi and PPP chairman Bilawal Bhutto arrived separately in the AJK capital on Sunday night to celebrate Eidul Azha as a show of support to the Kashmiri people.

The decision to dedicate Independence Day to the Kashmiris and their "just struggle for their right of self-determination" was made during a National Security Committee (NSC) meeting, two days after occupied Jammu and Kashmir was stripped of its autonomous status by the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party in India.

It was also decided that August 15, India's day of independence, will be observed as Black Day in protest against the ongoing Indian atrocities, blatant human rights violations and imposition of curfew in occupied Kashmir.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1499498/p...-move-in-occupied-kashmir-a-strategic-blunder
 
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"Quaid-i-Azam rose above a person's religion; he was thinking about every person's independence after the British left."
Couldn't Agree With You More
 
Why don't Pakistan check mate Indian move by unilaterally declare POK as an independent nation?
After all People of Kashmir wants independence and freedom.
Talk os cheap.
 
Imran's only move is to talk.

I'd believe you, except he not only replied to Indian aggression in Balakot by sending a couple of fighter jets over the border, they returned with a POW lol

I'd say Modi's only move was talk too, however having seen him trying to acronymise STRENGTH, I'd say he can't even do that.
 
Why don't Pakistan check mate Indian move by unilaterally declare POK as an independent nation?
After all People of Kashmir wants independence and freedom.
Talk os cheap.

So India can take that over too.

Great idea.
 
"But they have no interest [in dialogue]; their interest is only to 'teach Pakistan a lesson'. They are filled with hate.

This is true and we see this by conversing with indians on this forum.
 
"But they have no interest [in dialogue]; their interest is only to 'teach Pakistan a lesson'. They are filled with hate.

This is true and we see this by conversing with indians on this forum.

They think by doing this they are taking revenge from the Muslim armies led by Ghazni, Ghori and Babar
 
"But they have no interest [in dialogue]; their interest is only to 'teach Pakistan a lesson'. They are filled with hate.

This is true and we see this by conversing with indians on this forum.

Why cant Pakistan mind its own business and India minds it own?

What happens in India is not Imran Khans concern and What happens in Pakistan shouldnot be Modi's.

RSS or anything else is not pakistan's matter.

India has not done anything in PoK so why is he ranting?
 
Why cant Pakistan mind its own business and India minds it own?

What happens in India is not Imran Khans concern and What happens in Pakistan shouldnot be Modi's.

RSS or anything else is not pakistan's matter.

India has not done anything in PoK so why is he ranting?

Kashmir is not like the rest of India, it is disputed territory so Pakistani politicians will continue to talk about it. Keep RSS and your Hindutva for the rest of India and then perhaps Pakistanis will stop discussing it.
 
Kashmir is not like the rest of India, it is disputed territory so Pakistani politicians will continue to talk about it. Keep RSS and your Hindutva for the rest of India and then perhaps Pakistanis will stop discussing it.

Dispute if it exists is between Indians and Kashmiris. Not Pakistanis.

J and K is part of India and Indian laws govern it. Even the Art 370 that he is crying about is from the constitution of India.
 
If Modi's government is honest, then India should atleast let the international media have full access to Kashmir to have a clearer picture of situation.
 
Imran has become another run of the mill politician.This guy has become a puppet in hands of Pakistan Army, when he knows fully well what Modi govt did was the right thing to do for create peace in the region.

Pakistan Army however will lose lot of its clout once Kasmhir become a dead issue.
 
If Modi's government is honest, then India should atleast let the international media have full access to Kashmir to have a clearer picture of situation.

Why are you in a rush it will once it feels Kashmir situation is peaceful.Indian govt don't want media to propagate lies
 
"Teach a lesson" ?

It is sad to see Imran debase himself like this. He has transformed from cricketer-turned-statesman to online troll.But then, this was always a part of the job description once he got selected.
Hopefully, he will concentrate on Pakistan's collapsing economy instead.
 
If Modi's government is honest, then India should atleast let the international media have full access to Kashmir to have a clearer picture of situation.

Name one self respecting country that has allowed itself to be arm twisted by foreign media?

All restructions in Jammu have been lifted already.
 
Why are you in a rush it will once it feels Kashmir situation is peaceful.Indian govt don't want media to propagate lies

Lies are formed through rumors which are created in an exact situation as the current one.
 
Dispute if it exists is between Indians and Kashmiris. Not Pakistanis.

J and K is part of India and Indian laws govern it. Even the Art 370 that he is crying about is from the constitution of India.

Not interested in your hysterical nationalist ranting. Come back when you are prepared to hear other points of view. One sided propaganda does sites like this no good at all.
 
Dispute if it exists is between Indians and Kashmiris. Not Pakistanis.

J and K is part of India and Indian laws govern it. Even the Art 370 that he is crying about is from the constitution of India.

For 70 years, Pakistan has discredited the letter of accession and the article 370. Until now that is...
 
"Teach a lesson" ?

It is sad to see Imran debase himself like this. He has transformed from cricketer-turned-statesman to online troll.But then, this was always a part of the job description once he got selected.
Hopefully, he will concentrate on Pakistan's collapsing economy instead.

He said that in the context of Modi Government previously and repeatedly threatening Pakistan of teaching them a lesson.
 
If Modi's government is honest, then India should atleast let the international media have full access to Kashmir to have a clearer picture of situation.

You say RSS and BJP are authoritarian and are second coming of Nazi party. And then you complain about lack of transparency. Pick a lane
 
"Teach a lesson" ?

It is sad to see Imran debase himself like this. He has transformed from cricketer-turned-statesman to online troll.But then, this was always a part of the job description once he got selected.
Hopefully, he will concentrate on Pakistan's collapsing economy instead.

He is referring to Indian threats to teach Pakistan a lesson and countering that Pakistan will respond in kind. Imran Khan is a worldwide respected leader, at least read the article properly before insulting the Pakistani PM on a Pakistani forum. It is uncalled for.
 
You say RSS and BJP are authoritarian and are second coming of Nazi party. And then you complain about lack of transparency. Pick a lane

The reason of current zero transparency in Kashmir is the authoritarian regime. If BJP can't change that stance, then everyone will talk about lack of transparency there.
 
The reason of current zero transparency in Kashmir is the authoritarian regime. If BJP can't change that stance, then everyone will talk about lack of transparency there.

BJP won't. That should be clear for now. The idea is to kill the spirit instead of people. The restrictions will be lifted as soon as Kashmir cools down a bit.
 
Not interested in your hysterical nationalist ranting. Come back when you are prepared to hear other points of view. One sided propaganda does sites like this no good at all.

Basically you have no answer.

This is why hardly anyone supports the pak narrative on kashmir.
 
For 70 years, Pakistan has discredited the letter of accession and the article 370. Until now that is...

Problem is that the signatory to the letter and his descendents have never disputed the accession.
 
Lies are formed through rumors which are created in an exact situation as the current one.

They care more about lives being lost.Jammu restriction have been lifted.They are offering relaxations whenever situations warrant them.

They are answerable and care about lives unlike many in media who just want to see Tamasha.Kashmir is not new to these restrictions.They want these things to be history and Kashmir smiling again, have some patience they will get there.
 
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What else is he doing?

How are Indian muslims his concern? He has time and again dragged Indian muslims.

You are ranting again. I will not engage with anyone who is blatantly speaking about a respected international figure in such derogatory and untruthful terms.
 
I have read that Imran is a liberal as per PTI supporters. Yet he started his speech with Bismillah....

In India only religious outfits start their speeches by invoking God.
 
I have read that Imran is a liberal as per PTI supporters. Yet he started his speech with Bismillah....

In India only religious outfits start their speeches by invoking God.

Does someone being religious automatically make them illiberal?
 
I have read that Imran is a liberal as per PTI supporters. Yet he started his speech with Bismillah....

In India only religious outfits start their speeches by invoking God.

Yeah there was already a thread on that which I mentioned the liberals govn in Pak would still be right wing in most western democracies.

Its about whats a norm and this will defn not be called Liberal govn in most countries.
 
I have read that Imran is a liberal as per PTI supporters. Yet he started his speech with Bismillah....

In India only religious outfits start their speeches by invoking God.

That has got me thinking. I like to believe I live in a liberal western country, yet we still have daily worship as part of the school assemblies in the morning, and in court proceedings you are asked to swear on holy books to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Does that mean the UK is an illiberal country?
 
Too much Hindu bashing in his speech.

So as per Imran Khan, in Islamic rule (Riyasat-e-Madina), all religions are equal. Bwahahahaaaa!
 
That has got me thinking. I like to believe I live in a liberal western country, yet we still have daily worship as part of the school assemblies in the morning, and in court proceedings you are asked to swear on holy books to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Does that mean the UK is an illiberal country?

If you are a religious believer, you can take oath on religious book. You can also choose to not take oath on any book. At least in India.

A true liberal and secular country will never bring religion or holy books in public sphere. The world will get there in the future and this religious superstition will be a thing of past relic.
 
That has got me thinking. I like to believe I live in a liberal western country, yet we still have daily worship as part of the school assemblies in the morning, and in court proceedings you are asked to swear on holy books to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Does that mean the UK is an illiberal country?

No its how the politics is looked at, let Corbyn once say Bible verses etc to make a point, hell let a conservative make a point by citing Bible you would get a backlash from Liberals.

Western concept of Liberalization is not same, also school assemblies? I always wondered where Indian schools got that waste of time from, now i know.
 
Yeah there was already a thread on that which I mentioned the liberals govn in Pak would still be right wing in most western democracies.

Its about whats a norm and this will defn not be called Liberal govn in most countries.

May be compared to Islamic parties in Pakistan, PML, PTI and PPP lean a bit left.

I agree that PTI would be considered right wing in India. The amount of time Imran spent on Hindu bashing and propping up Islam would make PTI a strict right wing party.
 
Too much Hindu bashing in his speech.

So as per Imran Khan, in Islamic rule (Riyasat-e-Madina), all religions are equal. Bwahahahaaaa!

He did alot of Hindutva/RSS bashing, so you're saying that mantra is a fundamental part of Hinduism?
 
If you are a religious believer, you can take oath on religious book. You can also choose to not take oath on any book. At least in India.

A true liberal and secular country will never bring religion or holy books in public sphere. The world will get there in the future and this religious superstition will be a thing of past relic.

I think I prefer to live in a western country where we pay respects to religious protocols than a secular eastern country if India is the example.
 
No its how the politics is looked at, let Corbyn once say Bible verses etc to make a point, hell let a conservative make a point by citing Bible you would get a backlash from Liberals.

Western concept of Liberalization is not same, also school assemblies? I always wondered where Indian schools got that waste of time from, now i know.

IK wasn't using verses of Quran to make a point, he said Bismillah, this is just an etiquette in Pakistan, like saying bless you in a western country when someone sneezes. It is being taken way out of context by troodon, possibly in a lame attempt at trolling, nevertheless I have patiently given examples to try to give a better understanding of the term.
 
How is RSS or Hindutva a concern of Imran Khan?

Because according to every Hindutva idiot I've ever come across has said that Pakistan should be under their rule in a greater india. And they're already talking of taking over what they consider POK, so it's his duty to call out these facists and let them know what will happen should they cross our border to try any of their paper tiger nonsense.
 
IK wasn't using verses of Quran to make a point, he said Bismillah, this is just an etiquette in Pakistan, like saying bless you in a western country when someone sneezes. It is being taken way out of context by troodon, possibly in a lame attempt at trolling, nevertheless I have patiently given examples to try to give a better understanding of the term.

In India also saying Ram Ram is an etiquette. But secular parties do not say that when they address a meeting. Only BJP, RSS and the chaddi brigade do that which clearly shows they are right wing.

I have seen Pakistani people greeting each other with Salam or Assalamu Alaikum. Never heard someone reciting a verse as a greeting.

Even if it is a regular greeting, why is he invoking Riasat-e-Medina and saying that inequalist is not part of our religion bla bla bla... Why invoke religion so much? He could have put forth his points without bringing Hindu vs Muslim thing so much and bashing Hindus.
 
Because according to every Hindutva idiot I've ever come across has said that Pakistan should be under their rule in a greater india. And they're already talking of taking over what they consider POK, so it's his duty to call out these facists and let them know what will happen should they cross our border to try any of their paper tiger nonsense.

Same with your Islamic Fandoos saying Ghazwa-e-Hind. You do not see Indian PM bad mouthing Islam.

Did India ever took the first step to cross the border without Pak starting it?
 
Hindutva is concern to us in the same way Naziism or rise of Al Qaeda or KKK is to any fair minded person.
 
In India also saying Ram Ram is an etiquette. But secular parties do not say that when they address a meeting. Only BJP, RSS and the chaddi brigade do that which clearly shows they are right wing.

I have seen Pakistani people greeting each other with Salam or Assalamu Alaikum. Never heard someone reciting a verse as a greeting.

Even if it is a regular greeting, why is he invoking Riasat-e-Medina and saying that inequalist is not part of our religion bla bla bla... Why invoke religion so much? He could have put forth his points without bringing Hindu vs Muslim thing so much and bashing Hindus.

Pakistan is a country of religious people, no doubt about it. It is right there in the country's description: Islamic Republic of Pakistan. IK will follow the etiquettes required as would be expected. Nevertheless that does not mean he is inherently hostile to India, he has extended a warm hand to India to improve relations, and commented that in the end he realised that India's govt was not interested in improving relations due to their inherent hostility to Pakistan.

So in this regard, commenting that he started his speech with 'Bismillah' just seems like nit picking for the sake of of scoring points rather than addressing his actual message.
 
Pakistan is a country of religious people, no doubt about it. It is right there in the country's description: Islamic Republic of Pakistan. IK will follow the etiquettes required as would be expected. Nevertheless that does not mean he is inherently hostile to India, he has extended a warm hand to India to improve relations, and commented that in the end he realised that India's govt was not interested in improving relations due to their inherent hostility to Pakistan.

So in this regard, commenting that he started his speech with 'Bismillah' just seems like nit picking for the sake of of scoring points rather than addressing his actual message.

If Pakistan is an Islamic republic and religion is ingrained in it, then he is in no position to talk about right wing nuts in other countries. Cleanup your own mess before pointing fingers at the others.

I am a staunch critic of BJP and the monkey brigade of theirs, but I fully support them when it comes to Kashmir.
 
If Pakistan is an Islamic republic and religion is ingrained in it, then he is in no position to talk about right wing nuts in other countries. Cleanup your own mess before pointing fingers at the others.

I am a staunch critic of BJP and the monkey brigade of theirs, but I fully support them when it comes to Kashmir.

So you support genocide? The Germans were also fully in support of Hilter when he was rounding up the Jews and sending them to the gas chambers.
 
So India can take that over too.

Great idea.

No actually that would be a master stroke by Pakistan. I read that this is one idea that Imran has been considering, to declare on paper that POK has been granted independence. So the contrast is stark with how India integrated Kashmir.

This is to show to the world how statesmanly Pakistan always is when it comes to honoring human rights and minority communities (something the world already knows btw) as compared to India.

That would be a checkmate move which will totally outsmart Modi. India just will not be able to attack independent country of POK (or whatever it would be called). Because INdia's behavior would stand in sharp contrast to Pakistan's then.

Actually a genius idea, if you think about it. If anyone can pull that off, Imran Khan can.

I wish more and more Pakistanis wrote to PM Imran Khan and your elected representatives to work on that strategy. That will make India reconsider scrapping 370 too.
 
So you support genocide? The Germans were also fully in support of Hilter when he was rounding up the Jews and sending them to the gas chambers.

The Indians must have invented a new form of genocide then - the J&K population has been growing at the same rate as most other Indian states. Moreover the Muslim population there is growing quicker than other religious groups.

That's an interesting form of genocide that the Indian state is allegedly carrying out.
 
The Indians must have invented a new form of genocide then - the J&K population has been growing at the same rate as most other Indian states. Moreover the Muslim population there is growing quicker than other religious groups.

That's an interesting form of genocide that the Indian state is allegedly carrying out.

Forcibly repopulating an area and converting a majority into a minority is a form of genocide. Read it up, I'm sure you can access Google from whichever slum you are posting out off in India.


And this is besides the thousands who have been raped, murdered and/or blinded.
 
Same with your Islamic Fandoos saying Ghazwa-e-Hind. You do not see Indian PM bad mouthing Islam.

Did India ever took the first step to cross the border without Pak starting it?

1) he didn't bad mouth Hindus, he bad mouthed the Hindutva ideology which killed Gandhi, tore apart Babari Masjid and bef lynchings amongst other things.

2) Who went into Balakot? Even after the PM of Pakistan asked for evidence and to act neighbourly? Maybe that's cos you knew all along it was a local Kashmiri lad who did it.
 
So you support genocide? The Germans were also fully in support of Hilter when he was rounding up the Jews and sending them to the gas chambers.

India does not want to Kill Kashmiris. They only want to integrate them in the main stream India.

When people use force to fight the government, then the Government will also use force and sometimes excess force.

You are talking as though Indian soldiers are putting thousands of innocent Kashmiris in gas chambers everyday. The only ones that are getting hurt or killed for the most part are terrorists and stone pelters.

Stop throwing stones and missiles at army and no one will be hurt.
 
1) he didn't bad mouth Hindus, he bad mouthed the Hindutva ideology which killed Gandhi, tore apart Babari Masjid and bef lynchings amongst other things.

2) Who went into Balakot? Even after the PM of Pakistan asked for evidence and to act neighbourly? Maybe that's cos you knew all along it was a local Kashmiri lad who did it.

Imran was clearly talking about Dalits and stuff which is a criticism of Hinduism. His points about Babri Masjid and beef lynchings are on point though.

Balakot was only to eliminate the terrorist hiding place and it failed. Not to hurt innocent pakistanis.
 
No actually that would be a master stroke by Pakistan. I read that this is one idea that Imran has been considering, to declare on paper that POK has been granted independence. So the contrast is stark with how India integrated Kashmir.

This is to show to the world how statesmanly Pakistan always is when it comes to honoring human rights and minority communities (something the world already knows btw) as compared to India.

That would be a checkmate move which will totally outsmart Modi. India just will not be able to attack independent country of POK (or whatever it would be called). Because INdia's behavior would stand in sharp contrast to Pakistan's then.

Actually a genius idea, if you think about it. If anyone can pull that off, Imran Khan can.

I wish more and more Pakistanis wrote to PM Imran Khan and your elected representatives to work on that strategy. That will make India reconsider scrapping 370 too.

Not sure if Imran Khan or the people of Pakistan would want that.
We support a a peoples vote for the entire Kashmir.
 
India point of view of IK speech

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Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday threatened to go to war following the Indian government's decision to scrap Article 370, which granted special status to Jammu and Kashmir. In his latest address in PoK, Khan said people of his country are ready to fight for the "freedom" of Kashmir.

He criticised the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), which is the parent organisation of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

Khan also highlighted incidents of lynching of Muslims in the country, saying the community is living in fear. The pakistan prime minister added that the current developments in Kashmir are alarming for the Muslim population living in the Valley, citing media reports.

"We are all concerned at moment about the truth of the humanitarian crisis and the atrocities created by this lockdown that has been imposed," he said.

Accusing the Indian government of making a "strategic blunder", the Pakistan prime minister said, "He (Narendra Modi) is playing his final card but it is going to be very expensive for India."

"Kashmir was not on the radar of the international community, but we as Pakistan have to ensure that this new momentum continues where Kashmir is in the global narrative. I pledge to be the ambassador of Kashmir," Imran Khan said.

"Now, I will become the brand ambassador and take Kashmir issue to all possible platforms," Khan said.

"The first important development is that Kashmir is now a global narrative; we have spoken to Donald Trump about it; we brought it up at the OIC," he added.

He went out to criticise the Indian Constitution and even went on to say that the "façade of tolerant India has been removed".

Citing danger to almost 18 crore Muslims living in India, he made another accusation. He said: "Pro Indian Kashmiri politicians today are endorsing two-nation theory."

"Our army is battle-hardened fighting a nearly 20 year war against terrorism. Our people are ready to defend our freedoms. We are observing where the events go from here. Pakistan is fully ready; our army, our people are on one page. We have decided we will not tolerate any violation and are fully ready to counter it," he added.

This is not the first time Imran Khan has tried to create a hype over the developments in Kashmir. The Pakistan prime minister has been constantly raising an alarm over the Modi government's decision to scrap Article 370.

India, however, has made it clear to Pakistan more than once to stay out of its internal matters, adding that the decision with regards to scrapping Article 370 was taken within the boundaries of the Indian Constitution.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ready-to-fight-for-freedom-1580826-2019-08-14
 
So you support genocide? The Germans were also fully in support of Hilter when he was rounding up the Jews and sending them to the gas chambers.

Forcibly repopulating an area and converting a majority into a minority is a form of genocide. Read it up, I'm sure you can access Google from whichever slum you are posting out off in India.

And this is besides the thousands who have been raped, murdered and/or blinded.


Your original definition of genocide is highlighted in the first comment above (Rounding up people and sending them to the gas chambers). When called out, you conveniently invoked a new meaning of genocide (repopulating an area and converting a majority into a minority).

How convenient. :)

Let me tell you that neither of your genocide definitions are happening in Kashmir. Little wonder then that Ummah leader nations like Saudi and UAE just disregard Pakistan's fake cries of 'genocide in Kashmir' 'gas chambers' etc etc.

These nations have diplomats and intelligence operatives on the ground in India. Do you really think that Pakistan screams genocide happening in Kashmir, and Saudi turns around and immediately invests 25 BILLION dollars in India if they really believed one word of Pakistan's accusation about genocide against Kashmiri muslims of India.

Unfortunately this tendency to invoke 'genocide' 'mass rape squads of Indian Army going from door to door in Kashmir' etc is not limited to gossip mongers on the streets of Pakistan, or trolls online. I am appalled to see even the PM of Pakistan invoke 'genocide like Nazis/Hitler' or variants of 'worst genocide in HISTORY' very casually.

And then Pakistanis, including the Pakistani FM, lament that 'Ummah is not interested/supportive of Pakistan', 'Security council is not waiting for us with PHOOLON KA HAAR', 'Ummah is only interested in India's growing economy and business investments'.

Pakistani friends, words mean something. You are not 5th graders who are wont to exaggerating to one another that 'my toy car is bigger than yours'. If you keep behaving like 5th graders when it comes to invoking 'Genocide like Nazis/Hitler' at the drop of a hat, the rest of the world including the Ummah will eventually look at you (be it the Pakistan PM or Foreign office or people) like they look at 5th graders trying to gain the attention of grown ups.
 
Prime Minister Imran said that Modi had declared that his government would bring prosperity to Kashmir by revoking Article 370, likening it to how Adolf Hitler used to speak.

1. Hitler actually never spoke of bringing prosperity to the Slavs and the Jews.

2. Seems like IK has fallen victim to Godwin's Law on Kashmir.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

3. It really is amusing to hear IK invoke Hitler. Pakistan's "all-weather friend" China has been doing much worse to the Uyghurs. Millions in concentration camps, no food for those who won't sing the government's praises, forced to eat pork, uninvited bureaucrats to Uyghur homes, forced sterilization of Uyghur women, children forcibly separated from parents, the list of horrors goes on.

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/7/26/china_xinjiang_uyghurs_internment_surveillance
https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/...s/news-story/34d531c19a5bb060881a76ac8b478609

4. Pakistan recently signed a letter defending China's treatment of Uighur Muslims in the Xinjiang region in response to Western criticism.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-muslims-un-letter-human-rights-a9003281.html

5. IK comes across as a drama queen when he says "Hitler" for Kashmir and then defends China's oppression of the Uyghurs. It is not as if the rest of the world are fools and do not see the contradiction in what he says. If you want respect, be consistent.
 
Love this man, what a leader!

This time the Indians have gone too far. They have a camp PM with a cowardly army who are extremists wanting to bring about some sort of Hindu empire but are now on a path of self harm. The coming years will be not be bright for India unless they change their ways quickly.
 
India does not want to Kill Kashmiris. They only want to integrate them in the main stream India.

When people use force to fight the government, then the Government will also use force and sometimes excess force.

You are talking as though Indian soldiers are putting thousands of innocent Kashmiris in gas chambers everyday. The only ones that are getting hurt or killed for the most part are terrorists and stone pelters.

Stop throwing stones and missiles at army and no one will be hurt.

Yes the poor toddlers who are being made blind through pellet guns were out throwing stones at the innocent dhoodh ki dhuli hoi Indian Army.
 
If Pakistan is an Islamic republic and religion is ingrained in it, then he is in no position to talk about right wing nuts in other countries. Cleanup your own mess before pointing fingers at the others.

I am a staunch critic of BJP and the monkey brigade of theirs, but I fully support them when it comes to Kashmir.

Don't be silly. Religious nations aren't inherently nuts, there is nothing to say they can't work for peaceful solutions like Mother Theresa or Ashoka, the Hindu king who put down his sword to accept Buddhism.

IK said Bismillah, not slaughter the infidels. Modi himself could pursue friendly relations if he wished. Show some perspective and stop taking words deliberately out of context.
 
Not sure if Imran Khan or the people of Pakistan would want that.
We support a a peoples vote for the entire Kashmir.

You have a point, but that may not be achievable. In the interim a bold out of box move by Imran to declare POK a truly independent nation, could be a master stroke. For once Imran would have outsmarted Chanakya Modi and Shah.

Because once Imran does that he closes the door on any military moves by Indian into what is now POK. Also the world goodwill will totally shift to Pakistan from India.

Since the world including major Ummah nations are solidly behind India, such a Imran Khan move will be the stuff of legends. The problem is, it needs someone with massive courage to pull a move like that.
 
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You have a point, but that may not be achievable. In the interim a bold out of box move by Imran to declare POK a truly independent nation, could be a master stroke. For once Imran would have outsmarted Chanakya Modi and Shah.

Because once Imran does that he closes the door on any military moves by Indian into what is now POK. Also the world goodwill will totally shift to Pakistan from India.

Since the world including major Ummah nations are solidly behind India, <b>such a Imran Khan move will be the stuff of legends.</b> The problem is, it needs someone with massive courage to pull a move like that.

You really don't have any idea of the power distribution within Pakistan if you think IK has the power to do this.
 
You really don't have any idea of the power distribution within Pakistan if you think IK has the power to do this.

Agree. Implicit in this suggestion was the assumption that Imran Khan would request and receive prior approval of this plan from the GHQ/Pakistan Army.

Since that much is known to every person on this forum, and the world, I didn't wan't to state the obvious.
 
Agree. Implicit in this suggestion was the assumption that Imran Khan would request and receive prior approval of this plan from the GHQ/Pakistan Army.

Since that much is known to every person on this forum, and the world, I didn't wan't to state the obvious.

I shudder when I think who controls the nukes in America.
Such power in the hands of Trump.
 
You have a point, but that may not be achievable. In the interim a bold out of box move by Imran to declare POK a truly independent nation, could be a master stroke. For once Imran would have outsmarted Chanakya Modi and Shah.

Because once Imran does that he closes the door on any military moves by Indian into what is now POK. Also the world goodwill will totally shift to Pakistan from India.

Since the world including major Ummah nations are solidly behind India, such a Imran Khan move will be the stuff of legends. The problem is, it needs someone with massive courage to pull a move like that.

India would surely be able to "create" a reason to invade Azad Kashmir after Pakistan military withdraws.

Infact, even if India occupies the entire Kashmir, the world wouldn't do anything, because of economical interest of most super powers. UN works for the big fishes only disguising as fake peace-keepers.

This world isn't made for the weak, they are crushed like ants, but don't worry, we humans as hypocrites will still call ourselves civilized.
 
Agree. Implicit in this suggestion was the assumption that Imran Khan would request and receive prior approval of this plan from the GHQ/Pakistan Army.

Since that much is known to every person on this forum, and the world, I didn't wan't to state the obvious.

No chance of the Pakistani Army doing anything to solve the Kashmir issue. It has been their meal ticket for a very long time now.
 
I shudder when I think who controls the nukes in America.
Such power in the hands of Trump.

Yes, that is why he is busy spraying nuclear bombs into North Korea and other places.

Oh wait a minute, Is he actually the first US president to hold summit level talks with a North Korean president? Okay, never mind. Lets not let facts come in the way of our narrative.
 
For Indian posters who don't really know Imran here I suggest do read into his life and struggles. This guy is as resilient and persistent as they come. I have seen his tweets and addresses to parliament and tv on Kashmir topic and I can clearly see his resilience in here.

When Imran says he would take this matter up as much as he can then trust him to do that. When he says he would act as Ambassador for Kashmir struggles do trust him to do that. This guy has literally struggled for over 20 years in politics to come into power. From a single guy with one seat to PM and largest party all on the back of his hardwork.

He has raised some important comparisons in his speech. Firstly, he clarified that India has never engaged him in dialogue since he has come into power. This suggests India never bilaterally wanted to discuss anything with Pakistan because their government is of the ideology to hate Pakistan irrespective of the situation and condition. This hatred is ingrained in their leadership which showed in their lack of interest in dialogue.

He also raised a good point over marginalisation of people and the effects it has on humans. India has now marginalised Kashmiri people this will ultimately lead to an extremist mindset. This will not only ruin Kashmiri peoples future but also come back to hurt India.

Imran wants to get the attention of the world over the issue of Kashmir. His linking of Indian ideology to that of Nazi ideology will surely gather some European media's attention for obvious reasons. The more this issue is spread across international media the more the coverage of events would happen when the curfew is lifted. India is in the dilemma now if they lift curfew and riots widely take place then international lenses would cover all the action which won't be good for India. If they do not lift the curfew then the pressure only just grows on Indian State and with time their own people will question their government as to why curfew is not being lifted.
 
For Indian posters who don't really know Imran here I suggest do read into his life and struggles. This guy is as resilient and persistent as they come. I have seen his tweets and addresses to parliament and tv on Kashmir topic and I can clearly see his resilience in here.

When Imran says he would ....

At the end of the day he is just the Pakistan PM, not the Pakistan Army Chief.

The Pakistani Wazir-e-Azam is but a dignified darbari in the Pakistani Army Chief's darbar. Hard hitting but the truth.

Pak Army Chief calls the shots in foreign and military policy, and most things in between. All else is optics and noise.
 
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Why cant Pakistan mind its own business and India minds it own?

What happens in India is not Imran Khans concern and What happens in Pakistan shouldnot be Modi's.

RSS or anything else is not pakistan's matter.

India has not done anything in PoK so why is he ranting?

Tell this to Modi and please stop watching Indian News channel so you can properly know what happening and who is not minding their own business.
 
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