[VIDEO] US lawmakers term Kashmir annexation ‘disaster’

[Lonewarrior]

Washington DC: The representatives of the American citizens in US Congress jointly condemned the gross human rights violations in Indian held Kashmir and urged upon Indian government to immediately restore the telephone and internet connections, allow media, releases the detainees, restore medical supplies and give a clear road map to when life will return to normal for the people of Kashmir.

US House of Representatives Committee on Foreign Affairs held its hearing on Human Rights in South Asia. The committee was led by its Chairman, Congressman Brad Sherman from California whereas Alice Wells, Acting Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia and Robert Destro, Assistant Secretary of State for Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor were part of the panel to answer questions by members of the congress.

Congressman Sherman in his opening remarks stated that since last August 5, 2019 when Indian government revoked article 370 in Indian held Kashmir, the worse kind of human rights abuses are reported by his friends, constituents and members of the press. He said that members of his constituents have complained to him that they are unable to talk to their relatives because telephone and internet connections are disconnected, those who are sick are not able to get their prescribed medicine and even members of the press are not allowed to enter Kashmir. Congressman Sherman at one point asked Alice Wells that US diplomats are not terrorists then why is it that the Indian government is not giving them permission to visit Kashmir. Mr Sherman had also asked Miss Wells whether US considers Kashmir a disputed territory but Miss Alice Wells while dodging answered by saying that US has no position on that and that it is an issue between Pakistan and India and that President Trump has tried on several occasions to bring both the parties to the negotiation table.

Congress woman Pramila Jayapal in her statement said that being of Indian origin its pains her to see how Kashmiri’s are being detained and even minor children between ages of nine and fourteen are detained in large number. She further said that during her recent visit to India she was told how unfairly those belonging to other religions such as Muslims, Sikhs and even Hindus of lower caste were treated and nobody in the Indian government spoke against such unfair treatment. Miss Pramila said that India which was once known for religious tolerance is now ranked fourth worse country in the world for religious freedom according to PEW Research. “Members of news media told me themselves how they are being threatened and that Prime Minister Modi government is blamed for all this” Miss Pramila added. Congress woman Pramila urged Assistant Secretary of State Alice Wells to have the US Ambassador in India to immediately visit Kashmir and also ask the Indian government to issue statements against those who are lynching Muslim, Sikhs or those who are eating beef.

Congressman Anthony Brown in his statement said that he is really concern about the situation in Kashmir especially knowing that both India and Pakistan have nuclear weapons. Congressman Eliot Engel in his remarks stated that President Trump is giving free hand to all those who are violating human rights and Kashmir is an example of that. Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick also showed concern for the Kashmiri’s who have health issues and unable to get medicine. He also regretted that fact that till date no US diplomat based in India has been given access to visit Kashmir and see the situation on ground.

Assistant Secretary Alice Wells while replying to questions raised by members of Congress said that US is concerned about the situation in Kashmir and have been regularly raising the issue with her Indian counterparts. Miss Wells further said that she is really disturbed with the fact that three former chief ministers of Indian held Kashmir are placed under house arrest. Miss Wells praised the recent statement of Prime Minister of Pakistan Imran Khan that anybody who crosses the line of control from Pakistan will be the enemy of Pakistan. “Pakistan has shown progress as far as action against is concerned against militants based in Pakistan but we do wish to see that more is done against Lashkhare Taiba and Jaishe Mohammad” Alice Wells said while replying to a question.

Congress woman Abigail Spanberger from Virginia during the hearing said that one of her constituents told her that his sister died because of excessive bleeding during pregnancy and was unable to go to the hospital. She further said that another individual from Kashmir told her that due to not having telephone or internet connections in Kashmir he did not know that his father had died and that he came to know about his father’s death from someone else. Miss Spanberger said that “if India is our strategic partner then why is that our diplomats and journalist are not allowed to visit Kashmir.” She also regretted the fact that children are being detained by Indian authorities.

https://thefrontierpost.com/us-congress-echoes-with-human-rights-abuses-in-kashmir/

https://scroll.in/article/941507/in-kashmir-india-must-respect-human-rights-excerpts-from-written-statements-to-us-congress-panel

LOL at "kashmir is our internal matter" .....

 

[Napa]

https://thefrontierpost.com/us-congress-echoes-with-human-rights-abuses-in-kashmir/

https://scroll.in/article/941507/in-kashmir-india-must-respect-human-rights-excerpts-from-written-statements-to-us-congress-panel

LOL at "kashmir is our internal matter" .....

US has put sanctions on Pakistan's all-weather friend China for its treatment of Uyghur Muslims.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/18/xinjiang-sanctions-chinese-firms-surveillance/

US has put zero sanctions on India for its treatment of Kashmiri Muslims.

You may not think so, but the US Admin does agree that Kashmir is India's internal matter.

If you are waiting for the US Admin to take action against India or for the Congress (not random members of Congress) to pass laws putting sanctions on India, you will have to wait forever.

 

[Extra_Cover]

US has put sanctions on Pakistan's all-weather friend China for its treatment of Uyghur Muslims.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/18/xinjiang-sanctions-chinese-firms-surveillance/

US has put zero sanctions on India for its treatment of Kashmiri Muslims.

You may not think so, but the US Admin does agree that Kashmir is India's internal matter.

If you are waiting for the US Admin to take action against India or for the Congress (not random members of Congress) to pass laws putting sanctions on India, you will have to wait forever.

You are right there are no sanctions.

But serious questions have been raised and more serious questions are raised on Assam issue which was not much expected.

India has made some very strong right wing decisions of late and another decision is sealed for middle of November that is Babri Masjid judgement. The release of that verdict together with Kashmir and Assam issue will definitely convince any third party that rights of Muslim communities are marginalised.

India is going downhill and going downhill really fast. You would think that Pakistan would rejoice at this fact but no. We want situation like 2004-2006 where trades were open, visas were issues, cricket was played, etc. Mutual trades and relationship was beneficial for Pakistan but rise of Modi will certainly stop the progress of India if not take it a step behind which will carry negative impact on Pakistan too.

 

[Napa]

You are right there are no sanctions.

But serious questions have been raised and more serious questions are raised on Assam issue which was not much expected.

India has made some very strong right wing decisions of late and another decision is sealed for middle of November that is Babri Masjid judgement. The release of that verdict together with Kashmir and Assam issue will definitely convince any third party that rights of Muslim communities are marginalised.

While some may feel that Muslim communities (especially Kashmiris) are being marginalized in India, given that they have full democratic rights, including the right to vote, which 90% of Muslims in the world do not have, I doubt any government action will be taken against India by any Western nation.

The Assam issue is about illegal immigrants in India. That won't result in action against India either.

India is going downhill and going downhill really fast.

Not sure why you think so? The country is internally stable with a government that commands a large majority. The economy is doing okay, with growth at 5% to 6% while the rest of the world slides into a recession. Forex reserves keep growing and are now a massive $440 billion.

You would think that Pakistan would rejoice at this fact but no. We want situation like 2004-2006 where trades were open, visas were issues, cricket was played, etc. Mutual trades and relationship was beneficial for Pakistan but rise of Modi will certainly stop the progress of India if not take it a step behind which will carry negative impact on Pakistan too.

When you say "We want situation like 2004-2006 where trades were open, visas were issues, cricket was played, etc." I doubt you speak for all of Pakistan, especially ISI. Or have you forgotten the Mumbai attacks of 2008 where terrorists killed 166?

I too would like peace between the neighbors. You blame Modi for the deterioration of the relationship, I on the other hand believe that Pakistan's military/ISI establishment requires India as the external enemy to maintain its domestic dominance.

 

[kk1992]

As if sanctions are put on merit.

And the guy in White House.

 

[Extra_Cover]

While some may feel that Muslim communities (especially Kashmiris) are being marginalized in India, given that they have full democratic rights, including the right to vote, which 90% of Muslims in the world do not have, I doubt any government action will be taken against India by any Western nation.

The Assam issue is about illegal immigrants in India. That won't result in action against India either.




Not sure why you think so? The country is internally stable with a government that commands a large majority. The economy is doing okay, with growth at 5% to 6% while the rest of the world slides into a recession. Forex reserves keep growing and are now a massive $440 billion.



When you say "We want situation like 2004-2006 where trades were open, visas were issues, cricket was played, etc." I doubt you speak for all of Pakistan, especially ISI. Or have you forgotten the Mumbai attacks of 2008 where terrorists killed 166?

I too would like peace between the neighbors. You blame Modi for the deterioration of the relationship, I on the other hand believe that Pakistan's military/ISI establishment requires India as the external enemy to maintain its domestic dominance.

There are lots of presumptions in your post so there is no point of arguments when the arguments are subjective.

You see things from an extreme lenses, i.e. if there are no sanctions / actions against India then it means there are no wrongs in our actions and therefore we should not ponder over the decisions we have taken. Sanctions / actions are extreme end of spectrums, their existence or non-existence does not change a simply question of what is right or wrong.

 

[Napa]

There are lots of presumptions in your post so there is no point of arguments when the arguments are subjective.

You see things from an extreme lenses, i.e. if there are no sanctions / actions against India then it means there are no wrongs in our actions and therefore we should not ponder over the decisions we have taken. Sanctions / actions are extreme end of spectrums, their existence or non-existence does not change a simply question of what is right or wrong.

I was replying to the OP which presented actions of a branch of the US government, and my point was that no real action would be taken by the US government.

As for subjective, I don't think the 166 dead are an opinion, they are real people who died.

Anyway, you seem to be someone who desires peace and progress for both countries and I can respect that.

 

[Pakistanian]

Good.

Now sanction india.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You are right there are no sanctions.

But serious questions have been raised and more serious questions are raised on Assam issue which was not much expected.

India has made some very strong right wing decisions of late and another decision is sealed for middle of November that is Babri Masjid judgement. The release of that verdict together with Kashmir and Assam issue will definitely convince any third party that rights of Muslim communities are marginalised.

India is going downhill and going downhill really fast. You would think that Pakistan would rejoice at this fact but no. We want situation like 2004-2006 where trades were open, visas were issues, cricket was played, etc. Mutual trades and relationship was beneficial for Pakistan but rise of Modi will certainly stop the progress of India if not take it a step behind which will carry negative impact on Pakistan too.

Whether India takes right wing or left wing decisions, its Indias decision. Be rest assured that US will not dictate them. Neither will India take those.

Except the slowing of growth in economy in last two quarters, i dont see how India is going downhill.

The years you mentioned also had a spate a terror attacks in many major Indian cities, ultimately leading to 26/11 attacks.

Under Modi, terror attacks have been limited to J and K.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I am very amused that Pakistani posters think India will be sanctioned. Lol.

 

[PakLFC]

I am very amused that Pakistani posters think India will be sanctioned. Lol.

Modi will sanction India himself! Pak don't need to do anything when Modi will destroy India

 

[Itachi]

You are right there are no sanctions.

But serious questions have been raised and more serious questions are raised on Assam issue which was not much expected.

Let me ask this, do you really know what "Assam issue" is?

 

[sweep_shot]

WASHINGTON: The Indian Occupied Kashmir (IOK) is facing a “humanitarian crisis” and India’s Aug 5 decision to annex the “disputed” territory has been a “disaster” for Kashmiris, observes a US Congressional panel.

These observations were made at a daylong hearing of a House subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific on Tuesday, described by the Indian media as “the most critical examination that any Indian action has received in a panel of US House of Representatives since the 1998 nuclear tests.”

At least, three lawmakers, Ilhan Omar, Tom Malinowski and David Cicilline, asked US officials testifying before the panel, whether the Indian government’s motivation behind the recent Kashmir decision was national security or an ultra-nationalist and majoritarian agenda.

“To what extent is this a result of the BJP and RSS, particularly RSS, … ultra-nationalist sentiment, driving this effort and this assault in Kashmir?” asked Congressman Cicilline, a Rhode Island Democrat. “What are we doing to combat that and help them recognise that this is not an appropriate way to behave in a democracy?”

“The revocation of Article 370 has long been a mainstay of the BJP political platform. So, when PM Modi won majority in this latest election, in which 67 per cent of Indians participated, the government quickly and without consultations with us, (moved) to implement it,” US Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs Alice G Wells responded.

“The revocation is a little bit of a canard …, we are not taking a position on Article 370, we are taking a position on whether Kashmiris can live in dignity and have a full economic and political life,” she added.

Congressman Cicilline asked if Indian security forces had used pellet guns on Kashmiris after Aug 5 and whether children blinded by these guns were away and their families did not know where they were. Ms Wells promised to look into the report.

The panel’s chairman, Congressman Brad Sherman, questioned India’s claim that it cut-off Kashmir from the rest of the world to prevent cross-border terrorist attacks.

Mr Sherman asked whether there had been any “verified cross-border terrorism” incidents since Aug 5, when India changed the status of occupied Kashmir.

Ms Wells stated that she was “hearing different stories from different sides” but “we have observed a decline in incidents of infiltration.”

This observation contradicts the Indian claim that there has been a build-up of terror groups waiting to cross the Line of Control.

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, who chairs the congressional Pakistan Caucus, asked Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy and Human Rights Robert Destro if he would describe the situation in IOK as a “humanitarian crisis,” Mr Destro said, “Yes, it is.”

Ms Jackson Lee, who is also a member of the Indian caucus and had attended Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s rally in Houston earlier this month, demanded that Pakistan’s sacrifices in the war against terror be recognised.

She then approached the issue of humanitarian crisis from another angle. “Have you denied any reputable member of the Indian government or reporters from India into the US,” she asked.

“No,” responded Ms Wells, creating space for Ms Jackson Lee’s follow-up question. “What can we do, when (US lawmakers) are denied ingress for legitimate purposes to areas in Kashmir,” she asked.

“We regret that Senator (Chris) Van Hollen was not able to travel to Kashmir. I’m confident that we will be able to travel to Kashmir again,” Ms Wells said.

In the two-hour long morning session, Trump administration officials were often forced to defend Indian actions in Kashmir while expressing “discomfort at choices made by New Delhi,” as an Indian media report noted.

The hearing was titled ‘Human Rights in South Asia’, but the overwhelming number of questions related to Kashmir. The packed room broke into applause whenever a lawmaker or US official criticised Indian actions in Kashmir.

Ms Well underlined her concerns “about the manner in which Indian authorities have implemented” the Aug 5 decision, pointing out that Washington has been steadily raising the level of its concern over the situation in Kashmir.

She also said the US supports the rights of Kashmiris to peacefully protest, but condemns terrorists “who seek to use violence and fear to undermine dialogue” between India and Pakistan.

“Are we supposed to trust these government of India officials when the government of India doesn’t allow our diplomats to visit?” asked Mr Sherman when Ms Wells said that US diplomats relied on Indian officials and media reports for information on the situation in Kashmir.

When Ms Wells said that India argued now’s not the right time to allow foreign officials and journalists into Kashmir, Congres*sman David Torne said: “Seems like the right time exactly.”

“How is the State Department accepting that at this time India, a close strategic partner for the United States on everything from trade to military cooperation, is telling us that we cannot allow US diplomats to enter Kashmir?” asked Congresswoman Abigail Spanberger. She said that Indian government officials had told her the situation in Kashmir had improved but her constituents, who had family in Kashmir, gave “very different stories”. She also quoted several cases of how the blockade had disrupted lives and had even caused deaths.

Congressman Tom Malinowski noted that the communication blockade “disempowers the very people who want to be our allies”.

The first Indian-American Congresswoman, Pramila Jayapal and Congressman Sherman mentioned that a Kashmiri American, Mujahid Shah, whose father, a businessman, had been detained despite no political links.

Ms Jayapal said she was deeply worried that despite orders from the high court to stop preventive detention, India was not releasing even those who had received a favourable verdict.

Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1512612/us-lawmakers-term-kashmir-annexation-disaster.

 

[SakunaPataka]

LOL at "kashmir is our internal matter" .....

Check this out:
https://youtu.be/R7CvelSHeWw?t=660

 

[cricketjoshila]

Let me ask this, do you really know what "Assam issue" is?

They have zero idea.

 

[Itachi]

They have zero idea.

Exactly. What I saw here is, people come with an agenda and will manipulate the words in order to fulfill their credibility to their misleading statements. Ive written in depth about NRC writing every possible circumstances with reference to the whole NRC documentation, everyone went silent because it didn't fit their agenda. Yet, in other threads, they continue to sprout the same.

 

[Napa]

I wonder if people actually watched the video linked in the OP.

Highlights:

Sherman, Democratic chairman of the panel in his opening statement "According to Freedom House China is given 11, Pakistan 40 and India 75 in freedoms" and "South Asia's greatest single human rights concern is the continued jailing of Dr. Afridi who helped us find OBL" and "we have to ask when, if not now will peaceful protest be allowed".

Ted Yoho, ranking Republican committee member says quite clearly (around 11:00) "this issue should stay between India and Pakistan" (this is India's position, the issue is bilateral, no mediation needed) and "in any capacity that we are asked to" (if India doesn't ask, we will not mediate), "I also understand that the recent decision of the Indian government to abrogate Article 370 of the Indian Constitution is with the Government of India's means and an internal issue. However it is my hope that restrictions on individuals are removed as quickly as possible".

1:18 Admin official "India is a country of 1.3 billion people, it has survived 4 external wars and lifted a massive number of people out of poverty, we respect that... it's not a relationship of dictation, it is a relationship of partnership".

I didn't even bother to listen to the rest of what the Admin officials had to say as they are part of Trump's admin so are going to support India anyway. Such support is not surprising given that India ranks about the same as Israel and a bit behind France in trustworthiness among US government and military experts.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/23/few-americans-trust-pakistan/

Overall, quite supportive of India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I wonder if people actually watched the video linked in the OP.

Highlights:

Sherman, Democratic chairman of the panel in his opening statement "According to Freedom House China is given 11, Pakistan 40 and India 75 in freedoms" and "South Asia's greatest single human rights concern is the continued jailing of Dr. Afridi who helped us find OBL" and "we have to ask when, if not now will peaceful protest be allowed".

Ted Yoho, ranking Republican committee member says quite clearly (around 11:00) "this issue should stay between India and Pakistan" (this is India's position, the issue is bilateral, no mediation needed) and "in any capacity that we are asked to" (if India doesn't ask, we will not mediate), "I also understand that the recent decision of the Indian government to abrogate Article 370 of the Indian Constitution is with the Government of India's means and an internal issue. However it is my hope that restrictions on individuals are removed as quickly as possible".

1:18 Admin official "India is a country of 1.3 billion people, it has survived 4 external wars and lifted a massive number of people out of poverty, we respect that... it's not a relationship of dictation, it is a relationship of partnership".

I didn't even bother to listen to the rest of what the Admin officials had to say as they are part of Trump's admin so are going to support India anyway. Such support is not surprising given that India ranks about the same as Israel and a bit behind France in trustworthiness among US government and military experts.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/23/few-americans-trust-pakistan/

Overall, quite supportive of India.

Democrats are not happy with the way Modi and Trump endorsed each other in Houston.

Also remember, Hillary Clinton is very anti Modi. And the Clinton family holds huge influence among Democrats.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Exactly. What I saw here is, people come with an agenda and will manipulate the words in order to fulfill their credibility to their misleading statements. Ive written in depth about NRC writing every possible circumstances with reference to the whole NRC documentation, everyone went silent because it didn't fit their agenda. Yet, in other threads, they continue to sprout the same.

So just for your reference. Its not me asking this question, a question was raised by the Chairman of Foreign Affairs himself on Assam. The Chairman even went on to describe the idea of marginalizing citizens based on their religion and quoted it to be a crackpot idea in the panel discussion while openly asking US to condemn the crackdown on Assam's muslims in the panel meeting too. See from minute 57 onwards to an hour mark. Perhaps it looks like the Chairman of the committee of Foreign Affairs also done understand the issue in Assam similar to me.

Overall, quite supportive of India.

Are you even serious? The entire panel was invited for a session to particularly discuss human rights situations and violations in Kashmir. Have a look through the video I posted above.

There is another session that was held after this panel meeting. I can share link to that video too if you prefer.

 

[AdamM97]

Democrats are not happy with the way Modi and Trump endorsed each other in Houston.

Also remember, Hillary Clinton is very anti Modi. And the Clinton family holds huge influence among Democrats.

Since when was Hillary anti-Modi? That woman sees the world as a chess-game and she’d love it if the US and a nationalist Indian government would fight against China.
Also Tulsi Gabbard and a few corporate-dems aren’t anti-Modi.

The only democrats who are anti-Modi are the progressive ones and the Justice Democrats.

 

[Itachi]

So just for your reference. Its not me asking this question, a question was raised by the Chairman of Foreign Affairs himself on Assam. The Chairman even went on to describe the idea of marginalizing citizens based on their religion and quoted it to be a crackpot idea in the panel discussion while openly asking US to condemn the crackdown on Assam's muslims in the panel meeting too. See from minute 57 onwards to an hour mark. Perhaps it looks like the Chairman of the committee of Foreign Affairs also done understand the issue in Assam similar to me.

I asked "you" the question. Do you really know the "Assam issue"?

I went through the process.
My family went through the process.
My friends and their families (Hindus, Muslims, Christians included) went through the process.
Every Assamese people went through the process.

I don't need certification from others to show what the process is or it's repercussions.

But don't take my words for it. I can show you the various stages of NRC and how it occurred and then judge it by your own opinion.

Are you up for it?

 

[cricketjoshila]

So just for your reference. Its not me asking this question, a question was raised by the Chairman of Foreign Affairs himself on Assam. The Chairman even went on to describe the idea of marginalizing citizens based on their religion and quoted it to be a crackpot idea in the panel discussion while openly asking US to condemn the crackdown on Assam's muslims in the panel meeting too. See from minute 57 onwards to an hour mark. Perhaps it looks like the Chairman of the committee of Foreign Affairs also done understand the issue in Assam similar to me.

Are you even serious? The entire panel was invited for a session to particularly discuss human rights situations and violations in Kashmir. Have a look through the video I posted above.

There is another session that was held after this panel meeting. I can share link to that video too if you prefer.

Did the chairman of foreign affairs fought in the Assam movement or did he sign the Assam Accord?

 

[Extra_Cover]

Did the chairman of foreign affairs fought in the Assam movement or did he sign the Assam Accord?

Ofcourse not as far as I know. In fact, the Chairman Sherman and everyone in there are just outside independent parties discussing the bill on Assam that has been passed in India. I'm in the same boat as the Chairman himself where I really don't know the very ground breaking realities that you might know on Assam.

I just think that my way of questioning came across not perfectly so let me put it out again for you. The matter of citizenship lies with Indian State and they are free to choose whatever criteria they use and pass it through legislation in their Parliament. The question on citizenship is not happening at the moment. The questioning has happened on the list whereby an idea has circulated that implies only Muslims from that list will go in camps while others will become citizens. The fundamental ideology of separating Muslims from the list is being questioned the list itself is not being questioned here.

Now if you are able to defend the idea of marginalising a religion from a list then I'm sorry I won't be able to debate further as for me it would be pointless debating fundamentals of human rights.

 

[Itachi]

Ofcourse not as far as I know. In fact, the Chairman Sherman and everyone in there are just outside independent parties discussing the bill on Assam that has been passed in India. I'm in the same boat as the Chairman himself where I really don't know the very ground breaking realities that you might know on Assam.

I just think that my way of questioning came across not perfectly so let me put it out again for you. The matter of citizenship lies with Indian State and they are free to choose whatever criteria they use and pass it through legislation in their Parliament. The question on citizenship is not happening at the moment. The questioning has happened on the list whereby an idea has circulated that implies only Muslims from that list will go in camps while others will become citizens. The fundamental ideology of separating Muslims from the list is being questioned the list itself is not being questioned here.

Now if you are able to defend the idea of marginalising a religion from a list then I'm sorry I won't be able to debate further as for me it would be pointless debating fundamentals of human rights.

1. This isn't bill of Assam. This is citizenship bill.
2. Citizenship bill has nothing to do with NRC. it's totally a different matter.
3. The bill isn't even passed. It was passed only lok sabha but couldn't pass the rajya sabha.
4. Citizenship bill has no relation with the facilities that were introduced after NRC declared a set of people illegal. The criteria of legality isn't based upon religion but the documents that were required to prove their lineage. If a person can't prove lineage, he'll be declared illegal irrespective of religion.
5. The NRC itself says that they can follow up their claims in judicial procedure in order to prove their citizenship.

Before accusing of a system, at least read in details about what it is and don't play victim card for a particular religion.

 

[Extra_Cover]

1. This isn't bill of Assam. This is citizenship bill.
2. Citizenship bill has nothing to do with NRC. it's totally a different matter.
3. The bill isn't even passed. It was passed only lok sabha but couldn't pass the rajya sabha.
4. Citizenship bill has no relation with the facilities that were introduced after NRC declared a set of people illegal. The criteria of legality isn't based upon religion but the documents that were required to prove their lineage. If a person can't prove lineage, he'll be declared illegal irrespective of religion.
5. The NRC itself says that they can follow up their claims in judicial procedure in order to prove their citizenship.

Before accusing of a system, at least read in details about what it is and don't play victim card for a particular religion.

Please read it again. What I infer and criticise in my post relates to following thread. Similar remarks were made by Chairman Sherman in the panel too.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...)-refugee-to-leave-the-country-quot-Amit-Shah

 

[Itachi]

Please read it again. What I infer and criticise in my post relates to following thread. Similar remarks were made by Chairman Sherman in the panel too.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...)-refugee-to-leave-the-country-quot-Amit-Shah

That's citizenship bill. But what you followed is with facilities that were established after NRC which has no relation with citizenship bill.

The bill itself didn't pass rajya sabha and will probably raise in winter session.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Please read it again. What I infer and criticise in my post relates to following thread. Similar remarks were made by Chairman Sherman in the panel too.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...)-refugee-to-leave-the-country-quot-Amit-Shah

The bill is justified because Muslims demanded and got a separate Homeland in 1947, in that process 1000s died. Now they cannot be allowed to come back to India. No way.