[VIDEO] US presidential election: Joe Biden vs Donald Trump final presidential debate

[The Viper]

Donald Trump and Joe Biden will share the stage on Thursday night for the final presidential debate before election day on 3 November.

A lot is at stake. For Mr Trump - whose coronavirus diagnosis derailed plans for a debate last week - it is a chance to turn around a flagging campaign as he is currently trailing in the polls. Meanwhile, Mr Biden will work to maintain his frontrunner status, hoping to avoid any gaffes or verbal stumbles.
Here's what you need to know.

When and where is the debate, and how will it work?

The debate will be held from 21:00-22:30 ET (02:00-03:30BST) at Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee, and you can follow it live on this website.

The 90-minute debate will have no commercial breaks. It will be divided into six 15-minute segments, with each candidate given two uninterrupted minutes before they enter into open debate. Here comes the important difference from the first debate, which was filled with interruptions: during these two-minute blocks, only the candidate who has the floor will have his microphone turned on - the other will be temporarily muted. Let's see how well that works out.

The six segments will address six separate topics:
Fighting Covid-19

American Families

Race in America

Climate Change

National Security

Leadership

And in terms of coronavirus, safety protocols are expected to be similar to the first Trump-Biden face-off. Candidates will be spaced a safe distance apart and they will not shake hands.

The last debate was a mess. Will this one be any different?

The president is being counselled to use a softer touch this time around, after his belligerent attitude in the first debate was thought to have hurt him with suburban women, a key voting demographic. His advisers say allowing an opponent not always known for his way with words to speak uninterrupted could help his cause.

The debate commission's decision to mute the other candidate's microphone during the initial two-minute answer period might also help impose some discipline on Trump and put the pressure on Biden to provide the kind of clear, extended answers to policy questions he avoided in the last debate.

Any time Biden goes into greater detail about his positions, it risks angering various parts of his electoral coalition, made up of factions - left-wing progressives, blue-collar workers, Democratic moderates and disaffected Republicans - that have very different hopes for a Biden presidency.

Trump could very well decide he still needs to go on the attack, of course - or, in the heat of the moment, abandon his planned strategy. Biden flashed his temper two weeks ago but mostly maintained his composure and avoided serious pitfalls. In the final set-piece of a long presidential campaign, he may be tested one more time.
Pity the host.

There may not have been a clear winner in the last Trump-Biden showdown, but moderator Chris Wallace could be counted among the losers.

Despite his best efforts, the veteran journalist struggled to maintain control of the evening and failed to stop Mr Trump's incessant interruptions.

This time, NBC's Kristen Welker will be in the hot seat. Before she has asked a single question, she is already under attack from the president.

"She's always been terrible & unfair, just like most of the Fake News reporters," Mr Trump tweeted on Saturday. It's a departure from what his own campaign adviser, Jason Miller, told Fox News this month - that Ms Welker would do an "excellent job" of hosting the debate.

"I have a very high opinion of Kristen Welker," he said, echoing remarks from several of her journalist colleagues, who describe the long-time White House correspondent as tough and fair.

How are the candidates preparing?

From the outside, the candidates' debate preparation looks just as different as the candidates themselves.

Former Vice-President Joe Biden seems to be hunkering down in advance of the debate. He has no public events on his schedule this week and is sending top surrogates like running-mate Kamala Harris out on the trail instead.

President Trump, on the other hand, is sticking to his typical schedule, hosting large rallies across the country. In the days before the debate, he'll hopscotch between live events in Arizona, Pennsylvania and North Carolina.

Did the first debate change anyone's mind?
Maybe. According to voter surveys before and after the first debate by polling website FiveThirtyEight and Ipsos, voters reported a slight decline in support for Trump, and a slight boost for Biden.

And in the days after the face-off, the former vice-president gained some ground in national polls, widening his lead by about three percentage points.

Still, debates are typically targeted at voters who have not yet made up their minds, and there don't seem to be many of them left. A recent Reuters/Ipsos poll found that just 8% of likely voters are still on the fence about who they want as president.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54620868

 

[Firebat]

Trump gets last chance to claw back Biden lead at final presidential debate

Donald Trump has his last chance to move the dial in the fast-approaching US presidential election on Thursday night, when he addresses a large nationwide audience at the final televised presidential debate.

Trump will face his Democratic rival Joe Biden at 9pm ET at Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee. The candidates are expected to attract viewership in the tens of millions of Americans for their 90-minute encounter, giving the US president one last crack at shifting a race that has had him trailing the former vice-president for weeks.

NBC News and its moderator Kristen Welker will be hoping for a more civilized debate than the first, held three weeks ago, which collapsed into acrimony amid almost constant interruptions by Trump. In an attempt to prevent a repetition, the commission on presidential debates on Monday tweaked the format so that the candidates’ microphones are turned off while their opponent is speaking for the opening two minutes of each of six issue segments.

For the remainder of each of the 15-minute segments, discussion will be open between the two men.

Trump will be under pressure to soften his display compared with the first debate on 29 September, which was widely censured as bullying. Polls conducted after the debate suggested it damaged his already beleaguered standing in key battleground states such as Florida and Pennsylvania.

But there were few indications that Trump intends to change tack in the final hours leading up to the Nashville debate. On Monday he denigrated Welker as a “radical left Democrat”, while his campaign has accused the debate commission of being biased towards Biden and objected to the six policy subjects that NBC News has chosen.

They include three areas on which Trump’s record is especially vulnerable – race in America, Covid-19 and climate change – as well as national security, leadership and America’s families. Bill Stepien, Trump’s campaign manager, protested in a letter to the commission that this debate should have been on foreign policy, territory on which Trump thinks he can prevail following recent breakthrough agreements in the Middle East.

Trump has also been mired in his by now familiar angry denunciations of figures within his own administration and the media. Instead of making a closing argument to the American people, he has expended valuable political capital calling Anthony Fauci, the country’s top infectious diseases official, a “disaster” and “idiot”, and storming out of an interview with CBS News’ 60 Minutes.

The final debate falls at an increasingly anxious time for the Trump re-election campaign. National polls give Biden a steady and clear advantage, such as an 8.5% lead in the Real Clear Politics tracker.

National polls have limited value. More worrying for the Trump campaign is the fact that Biden has almost three times as much money to spend on the closing days as Trump, and is also showing an edge in key swing states.

An indication of the relevant concerns of each camp can be gleaned from where the candidates and their top surrogates will be travelling this week. Biden was hunkered down in Nashville for debate prep, suggesting that he sees the event as a chance for him to solidify his frontrunner status.

In support of Biden, Barack Obama travelled to Philadelphia on Wednesday making an appeal to African American residents to vote. Pennsylvania, which was central to Trump’s victory in 2016, is showing Biden ahead in the polls, but not enough for comfort.

Kamala Harris, Biden’s running mate, was in North Carolina on Wednesday, as was Trump himself. North Carolina, a traditional Republican stronghold, is seen as increasingly “purple” in that its changing demographics has put it up for grabs for either party.

Florida, which Trump must win if he is to have a solid chance at staying in the White House, is widely cast as too close to call.

Perhaps the most interesting campaign move was that of Vice-President Mike Pence, who was in Ohio. Trump took Ohio by eight percentage points over Hillary Clinton in 2016, but polls now suggest it is also too close to call.

The three scheduled presidential debates in 2020 have shaped up to be among the most volatile in US history. The second debate was cancelled after Trump contracted coronavirus and refused to stage the discussion through video links, resulting in dueling separate town hall meetings on different networks.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/22/trump-biden-final-presidential-debate

 

[MenInG]

The White House Chief of Staff says President Trump has tested negative for coronavirus and is on his way to Nashville for the presidential debate.

 

[MenInG]

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden tested negative for the novel coronavirus on Thursday ahead of the final debate against President Trump in Nashville, Tenn.

“Vice President Biden underwent PCR testing for COVID-19 today and COVID-19 was not detected,” Biden’s campaign said in a statement.

 

[sweep_shot]

Presidential debate: Key takeaways from the Trump-Biden showdown

The mute button, or at least the threat of it, seems to be working. Early in the second presidential debate, Donald Trump and Joe Biden candidates have been more restrained.

The candidates allowed each other to speak. They used respectful tones. Even when they went on the attack, they did so in a calm, deliberate manner.

After a pugnacious first debate, during which Donald Trump's constant interruptions may have cost him support in subsequent opinion polls, the president has very visibly dialled down the volume.

This time, the content of what the candidates are saying might be what the American public remembers from the debate - not the chaotic manner in which it was delivered.

Covid takes centre stage
The Trump campaign complained that this debate was supposed to be focused on foreign policy - perhaps allowing the president to tout what he sees as his accomplishments in the Middle East, trade and Syria and go after Biden on his son's business ties to China.

Instead, the debate, like earlier debates, started on the coronavirus pandemic - a topic polls show the American public care most about.

Donald Trump, once again touted a vaccine he said would be ready "in weeks". He offered personal testimony to the power of the new drugs to treat the disease and boasted that he was now "immune".

Biden, not surprisingly, went on the attack. He pointed out Trump had repeatedly promised the disease would disappear on its own. He said there were 220,000 Americans dead and there could be another 200,000 by the end of the year.

In the back and forth between the two candidates, Trump continued to offer hope that things were getting better and businesses and schools should reopen. And when Trump said that people were "learning to live" with the disease, Biden pounced.

"People are learning to live with it?" he asked. "People are learning to die with it."

At one point, Trump offered an answer that he said was "perhaps just to finish this". The president, clearly, was eager move on to different subjects.

The inevitable Hunter Biden exchange

Trump telegraphed early and often that he would make Biden's son Hunter a topic of the debate, and it wasn't long before the president brought the former vice-president's family up. He alleged that Biden personally profited from his son's business dealings in Ukraine and China, citing recent news stories based on information allegedly gleaned from Hunter Biden's laptop computer.

Biden's defence was to change the subject to Trump's taxes and the president's own ties to China. It ended up being a he said, he said exchange that probably left the casual American view confused - culminating in what was clearly an exchange of scripted lines.

"This is not about his family or my family, it's about your family," Biden said.

"That's a typical politician line," Trump countered, adding that he - by contrast - was not a politician. "Come on, Joe. You can do better than that."

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54650681.

 

[Gayle_Force]

Pretty even debate, which favours Biden. Trump needed a knockout punch but it didn’t happen.

 

[Savak]

Pretty even debate, which favours Biden. Trump needed a knockout punch but it didn’t happen.

The debates went just like last time in 2016, Hillary was ahead in the opinion polls by a big margin but come election day Trump got the EC while Clinton won the popular vote. There is something which makes me very uncomfortable about Trump supporters, they are very behind the scenes and silent, scared to come out in the open in full force whereas democratic supporters are always vocal and out in public but are they really a sizeable number as perceived?

 

[Gayle_Force]

The debates went just like last time in 2016, Hillary was ahead in the opinion polls by a big margin but come election day Trump got the EC while Clinton won the popular vote. There is something which makes me very uncomfortable about Trump supporters, they are very behind the scenes and silent, scared to come out in the open in full force whereas democratic supporters are always vocal and out in public but are they really a sizeable number as perceived?

Let’s see if lightning strikes twice but the margin in polling was never this wide under Hilary. Also, Hillary had the whole email scandal going on and was genuinely disliked by a section of the country. None of which applies to Biden.

I guess we will find out November 3rd but things don’t look great for Trump atm.

 

[Itachi]

Trump is what he is. If you are going for trump, you already know what you are getting be it positive or negative.

Biden is very sketchy though.

 

[Nadeemp]

Trump is what he is. If you are going for trump, you already know what you are getting be it positive or negative.

Biden is very sketchy though.

The debate did not effect anything. Biden my a slight margin in the polls . 12 days to go

 

[Varun]

If America is like India, the people are already polarized and made up their mind who to vote for.

These last minute debates aren't going to change anything.

 

[James]

I actually thought that Trump edged this one.

 

[Giannis]

I actually thought that Trump edged this one.

Too late for him, early voting is almost coming to end in my most states. Pretty much everyone I know has already casted their vote.

 

[MenInG]

[utube]Kxbooc9TmAg[/utube]

After the second presidential debate was canceled following President Donald Trump's coronavirus diagnosis and subsequent hospitalization, both he and Democratic nominee Joe Biden returned to the stage Thursday night for their final opportunity to draw direct contrasts with one another before Election Day.

For 90 relatively-civil minutes, the pair sparred over a range of topics including the pandemic, health care, election security, immigration, their personal financial entanglements and climate change, among other things, guided by moderator Kristen Welker of NBC News.

The closing arguments arrived, however, on a day in which the number of early votes cast this year eclipsed the number of early votes total in 2016 -- with still 12 days to go until Election Day. Over 48.5 million Americans have already voted, which leaves a winnowing group of persuadable individuals for Trump and Biden to win over.

Though there was some doubt about whether the event would take place after Trump repeatedly expressed dissatisfaction with the non-partisan Commission on Presidential Debate's attempt to hold a virtual second debate prior to its eventual cancelation -- and later their decision to mute the candidates' microphones during portions of Thursday's discussion -- the debate moved forward without delay and largely absent of the repeated interruptions that marred the first.

Here are five key takeaways from the final presidential debate:

As it turns out, when only one person can be heard at a time, only one person speaks at a time -- and the nation has a much better chance of hearing that one person speak.

The mics, which were muted for two minutes at a time while each candidate gave his opening response to debate questions, created a much more substantive debate that was far easier to follow than the first, in which Trump interrupted around 70 times and Biden was consistently thrown off track.

At the beginning, the president reigned in his disruptive behavior. During a discussion on opening schools during the COVID-19 pandemic -- which Trump advocates strongly for, often regardless of case counts -- the president asked Welker if he could respond to Biden.

"Please. Then I have a follow-up," Welker said. "Thank you. And I appreciate that," Trump said.

"And by the way, so far, I respect very much the way you're handling this, I have to say," he said about 40 minutes later.

In the end, however, the president's behavior changed, and he went back to interrupting both Biden and the moderator.

That didn't mean discussions didn't disintegrate into overtalking, interrupting, awkward quips and hits below the belt on health care, children separated at the border and minimum wage, but Welker largely kept the two men on track and pushed through a series of key topics that yielded substantial answers from each candidate.

Biden lays out forward-looking coronavirus plan, Trump re-litigates his past

The two candidates began the debate by laying out the biggest, most prominent contrast between their visions for the country's most pressing crisis: the coronavirus. It was also a big portion of the last debate, unsurprisingly, and it's the foundation of the 2020 campaign, which has become a referendum on Trump's handling of the virus.

Trump said life must go on despite the virus, used his own coronavirus diagnosis as an example and promised a vaccine on an earlier timeline than experts have offered.

"I say we're learning to live with it. We have no choice. We can't lock ourselves up in a basement like Joe does," Trump said.

Biden said life can't go on until we stop the virus, and did not let viewers forget who was in charge while 220,000 people died from the virus.

"No. 1, he says that we're, you know, we're learning to live with it," Biden said of Trump and the coronavirus. "People are learning to die with it."

Trump's argument consistently painted a picture of an America that had done its best against the virus and had to uphold the economy, despite a rising death toll and 70,000 cases per day.

"Excuse me, I take, I take full responsibility. It's not my fault that it came here. It's China's fault. And you know what? It's not Joe's fault that it came here either. It's China's fault," Trump insisted.

The president listed off the actions he has taken against the coronavirus, like closing down partial travel from China in January and making PPE and ventilators available around the country.

Biden criticized Trump for allowing the U.S. to become the hardest-hit nation in the world and laid out his plan: a national mask mandate, more rapid tests, federal standards for reopening and funding for small businesses and schools to adhere to public health guidelines.

"You folks home who have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning, that man and wife going to bed and reaching over to try to touch out of habit where their wife or husband was is gone. Learning to live with it? Come on. We're dying with it," Biden said.

Following the lead section on the pandemic, Welker attempted to navigate the candidates toward national security. However, upon the first mention of foreign adversaries -- in a question about Iranian and Russian interference in the election -- each took the opportunity to level accusations of corruption.

Trump shared misleading claims that the Biden family received improper payments from Russian associates and referred to unsubstantiated allegations that the former vice president's son, Hunter Biden, attempted to profit off access to his father.

"I think you owe an explanation to the American people," Trump goaded.

Biden highlighted reports that Trump paid little or nothing in federal income taxes for years leading up to, and during the start of, his presidency. Biden then said he has released his own tax returns because they show no impropriety, and questioned why the president still hasn't released his.

"Go look at them: 22 years of my tax returns," Biden said. "You have not released a single solitary year of your tax return. What are you hiding? Why are you unwilling?"

But while the disputes over entanglements and ethics carried on for well over 10 minutes, the audience on social media noted that it was time lost for conversations on issues more impactful upon the average American. The extended exchange arrived before conversations about health care, climate change and immigration -- something viewers noted was a potential disservice to casual political observers seeking more substance.

While a candidate's character will likely always register as a consideration for voters, in the midst of the pandemic, with COVID-19 cases again rising and an unstable economy threatening the livelihoods of millions of Americans, continued focus on the uncorroborated claims against Biden may rob some of the issue-based information they need to make an educated choice.

Democratic Presidential candidate and former US Vice President Joe Biden gestures as he speaks during the final presidential debate at Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn., Oct, 22, 2020.

Biden redirects Trump claims that would better fit a more progressive opponent
Trump claimed Biden wants to ban fracking and supports Medicare for All.

Biden, who blatantly said he doesn't oppose fracking (to the dismay of progressive voters), and who supports improvements to Obamacare over an overhaul of the system (also to the disappointment of further-left Democrats), told Trump he was confused.

"He's a very confused guy. He thinks he's running against somebody else. He's running against Joe Biden. I beat all those other people because I disagreed with them. Joe Biden, he's running against," Biden said, referring to Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Sen. Bernie Sanders and other more progressive Democrats who ran in the primaries on platforms including the Green New Deal and government-run health care that would eventually do away with private options.

MORE: Trump vs. Biden on the issues: Climate change and the environment
It's a distinction Biden has continued to make, a calculated call that progressive Democrats are so invested in ousting Trump that they will settle for a moderate Democrat and still turn out to vote, while undecided voters may be convinced by a more middle-of-the-road approach.

As the final debate question, Biden was asked what he'd say at his inaugural speech if he wins the presidency. In his response, Biden highlighted his devotion to all Americans, including those who don't vote for him.

"I will say I'm an American president," Biden said. "I represent all of you, whether you voted for me or against me, and I'm going to make sure you're represented. I'm going to give you hope."

Candidates offer stark health care contrast

With a Supreme Court case threatening to overturn the Affordable Care Act looming on the high court's docket, and Judge Amy Coney Barrett -- who could cast the deciding vote on the suit -- heading toward confirmation, the future of the nation's health care system will be among the top agenda items, regardless of who wins the election.

So when the debate turned to health care -- the issue 2018 voters rated as the most important -- both Trump and Biden delivered pitches likely to trail them as Americans gauge the winner's promise-keeping.

Trump touted his administration's effort to roll back the ACA's individual insurance mandate and labeled the act as a whole "no good," despite pledging to protect its popular coverage guarantees for people with preexisting conditions. He then falsely accused Biden of wanting to eliminate private insurance -- attempting to link him to the universal, single-payer proposals offered by other Democrats.

President Donald Trump gestures while he speaks during the final 2020 presidential campaign debate with Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden at Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn., Oct. 22, 2020.
Instead, Biden noted that his plan maintains private insurance and builds upon the ACA, by offering a public health care option.

"It'll become Bidencare," the former vice president said. "Not one single person with private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan."

Trump spent much of the 2016 campaign stating he would "repeal and replace" Obamacare. But for now -- and until the potential Supreme Court decision -- the repeal has fallen flat and a potential replacement failed in the Senate.

The president has also spent much of his tenure in the White House pledging a new health care plan, but has yet to offer concrete details, leaving voters with the choice to either embrace and expand the signature accomplishment of Trump's predecessor or be willing to follow him down a path of unknowns.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/key-takeaways-final-presidential-debate/story?id=73753325

 

[Technics 1210]

The new Mic rules backfired. Trump came out looking better, more sharper, and far more coherent, and Biden was just confused. Refering to Trump as Abraham Lincoln!

Trump won last night, the best part is Trump did post the video proving Biden said he would ban and get rid of fracking!

As Trump then said ; "There goes Texas, Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, and Ohio". This is the election sowed up right here!

 

[MenInG]

During exchanges on climate change, Donald Trump mentioned by name one of social media's most popular politicians, Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Elected to Congress in 2018, she's made a name for herself on the left of the party and is co-chair of Joe Biden's climate policy task force.

Talking about Biden's environmental plan, Trump used the Congresswoman's nickname, saying "You know who developed it? AOC plus three."

He accused her of knowing "nothing about the climate".

She's now responded saying if someone had told her three years ago that her name would be mentioned by the US president in an election debate, she would have "told them to shut up". She also criticised Trump for using her nickname, suggesting it was disrespectful.

 

[MenInG]

President Trump and Joe Biden tangled over race, Covid and Trump's taxes in final debate

The Nashville event featured more substance and policy than their ill-tempered first debate

Trump defended his Covid response in the opening exchange and said it saved lives

Joe Biden accused Trump of downplaying the risk and not accepting responsibility

The two also clashed over son Hunter Biden's business interests abroad

Three snap polls - from CNN, Data Progress and US Politics - declare Biden the winner

There are now just 12 days to the US election. Trump trails Biden in most national polls

 

[MenInG]

The final presidential debate, like earlier debates, started on the coronavirus pandemic - a topic the American public cares most about, according to polls.

Donald Trump once again touted a vaccine he said would be ready "in weeks". He offered personal testimony to the power of the new drugs to treat the disease and boasted that he was now "immune".

Biden, not surprisingly, went on the attack. He pointed out that Trump had repeatedly promised the disease would disappear on its own. He said there were 220,000 Americans dead and there could be another 200,000 by the end of the year.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Trump mauled Biden, something like Khabib does.

Im no Trump fan due to his negative rhetoric but I have no doubt Biden is far more evil. This man was clearly lying through his teeth, he doesn't care about black people or US healthcare, his polcies sugguest otherwise.

What is most interesting about this election, the whole media machine is desperate for Biden to win. Even the moderator of yesterdays debate was helping Biden while trying to shut down Trump. Not to mention absurd questions aimed at only hurting Trump while helping Biden with putting the 'right' words in his mouth.

The world will be a more dangerous place if Biden wins. Whoever wins, the US is on a serious path to decline, the begginging of the end of this empire is front of us.

 

[Markhor]

Trump mauled Biden, something like Khabib does.

Im no Trump fan due to his negative rhetoric but I have no doubt Biden is far more evil. This man was clearly lying through his teeth, he doesn't care about black people or US healthcare, his polcies sugguest otherwise.

What is most interesting about this election, the whole media machine is desperate for Biden to win. Even the moderator of yesterdays debate was helping Biden while trying to shut down Trump. Not to mention absurd questions aimed at only hurting Trump while helping Biden with putting the 'right' words in his mouth.

The world will be a more dangerous place if Biden wins. Whoever wins, the US is on a serious path to decline, the begginging of the end of this empire is front of us.

Most black Americans will reject Trump. This narcissist in the debate claimed he's the best President for black Americans since Abraham Lincoln

Even a basic knowledge of history shows how delusional that is. From the top of my head - Roosevelt introduced the New Deal which uplifted many struggling black Americans, Truman desegregated the military, Eisenhower used troops to desegregate schools and Johnson introduced the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act.

As for healthcare, Trump couldn't even convince his own Party to repeal Obamacare. For five years he's promised a "tremendous" healthcare plan that'll cover everyone and has done zilch. Infact his Party want to strip away the few protections Obamacare provided - like if you had a pre-existing condition like diabetes then in the old system insurance companies could choose not to insure you. ACA made that illegal.

I don't like Biden's past either but I'd take anyone over a clown who told people to inject disinfectant to cure COVID and that COVID would magically disappear in the summer.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Most black Americans will reject Trump. This narcissist in the debate claimed he's the best President for black Americans since Abraham Lincoln

Even a basic knowledge of history shows how delusional that is. From the top of my head - Roosevelt introduced the New Deal which uplifted many struggling black Americans, Truman desegregated the military, Eisenhower used troops to desegregate schools and Johnson introduced the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act.

As for healthcare, Trump couldn't even convince his own Party to repeal Obamacare. For five years he's promised a "tremendous" healthcare plan that'll cover everyone and has done zilch. Infact his Party want to strip away the few protections Obamacare provided - like if you had a pre-existing condition like diabetes then in the old system insurance companies could choose not to insure you. ACA made that illegal.

I don't like Biden's past either but I'd take anyone over a clown who told people to inject disinfectant to cure COVID and that COVID would magically disappear in the summer.

Yes as I said his rhetoric has been very poor.

However, since you are pretty good on politics. Was Trump lying about his policies towards prison reform etc? Also this thing he bought up of Biden in the 90's making policies which hurt blacks, is it true? Finally the cages for children were installed under the Obama administration which Biden didnt reject?

Trump made Biden look a little like he did to Hilary, he won the debate, this cannot be denied imo.

 

[Markhor]

Yes as I said his rhetoric has been very poor.

However, since you are pretty good on politics. Was Trump lying about his policies towards prison reform etc? Also this thing he bought up of Biden in the 90's making policies which hurt blacks, is it true? Finally the cages for children were installed under the Obama administration which Biden didnt reject?

Trump made Biden look a little like he did to Hilary, he won the debate, this cannot be denied imo.

1994 Crime Bill had good and bad parts. It banned assault weapons and reduced domestic violence, but doubled the federal prison population. So Trump is right to point out it did no favours to black communities. Prison reform was one of the few things I agree with Trump.

However nearly 90% of American prisoners are held in state prisons, not federal prisons so Biden and Trump should've been asked what they'd do to pressure states to stop locking people up for minor drug offences or imprisoning poor folks who can't afford to pay fines.

On cages for children, Trump was lying. Obama admin did separate families but only in special circumstances, i.e. if the father was carrying drugs. And children were to be held for no more than 72 hours. Trump's AG Jeff Sessions however made family separations routine. I dislike illegal immigration but this policy was inhumane.

 

[KingKhanWC]

1994 Crime Bill had good and bad parts. It banned assault weapons and reduced domestic violence, but doubled the federal prison population. So Trump is right to point out it did no favours to black communities. Prison reform was one of the few things I agree with Trump.

However nearly 90% of American prisoners are held in state prisons, not federal prisons so Biden and Trump should've been asked what they'd do to pressure states to stop locking people up for minor drug offences or imprisoning poor folks who can't afford to pay fines.

On cages for children, Trump was lying. Obama admin did separate families but only in special circumstances, i.e. if the father was carrying drugs. And children were to be held for no more than 72 hours. Trump's AG Jeff Sessions however made family separations routine. I dislike illegal immigration but this policy was inhumane.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

I think Biden's biggest mistake was to say look at both of us etc. No poltician should ever openly say Im clean, honest etc as most arent clean and there is no such as an honest politician. I think a lot of people would have thought, he's another Hilary , puppet of the powerful etc. Trump was quick to respond to this silly statement from Biden which shook him badly imo.

Deciding voters will prob back Trump and I dont the black community are going to come out in huge numbers, not in the const which matter.

If this is a very very close alas Bush, the result will cause violence in the streets esp if Trump refuses and is forced out.

 

[Technics 1210]

Biden and Harris have been back-pedalling all morning today. Biden now claiming he didn't mean to say he will end fracking/oil industry!

If Trump wins, especially in Texas, Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, and Ohio - history will look back and blame the mic rule in the last debate!

Biden was caught lying, and if Biden couldn't answer direct questions on 94 policy and cages, then neither can the looney left or spin doctors.

 

[Technics 1210]

Oh, don't believe the left when they say Blacks, Women, Latinos etc don't like Trump - they don't, they love him.

Watch : The Trump Show on BBC iPlayer. 3 part series.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Also Biden suggesting North Korea is somehow more dangerous after Trump met Kim, is nonsense.

No US administration has ever slowed down NK's nuclear weapons programme, it's too late now.

Trump has been played by Kim but Obama was hated by him. Its' far more likely a Trump call to Kim would stop him lobbing missiles to Godzilla over Japan, than Biden calling him. Biden saying he will foce the North Korean to abide by nuclear treaties, the bloke is deluded, you are the US of A, have more nukes than everyone. No nation takes the Yanks seriously regarding nuclear weapons and rightly so.

 

[Technics 1210]

Also Biden suggesting North Korea is somehow more dangerous after Trump met Kim, is nonsense.

No US administration has ever slowed down NK's nuclear weapons programme, it's too late now.

Trump has been played by Kim but Obama was hated by him. Its' far more likely a Trump call to Kim would stop him lobbing missiles to Godzilla over Japan, than Biden calling him. Biden saying he will foce the North Korean to abide by nuclear treaties, the bloke is deluded, you are the US of A, have more nukes than everyone. No nation takes the Yanks seriously regarding nuclear weapons and rightly so.

Irony isn't it. They wanted to shut Trump's mic, instead Biden revealed all through his mic.

At one point Biden was looking at his watch. He wanted the debate to end. Trump was stepping up a gear, while Biden was out of gas!

 

[KingKhanWC]

Irony isn't it. They wanted to shut Trump's mic, instead Biden revealed all through his mic.

At one point Biden was looking at his watch. He wanted the debate to end. Trump was stepping up a gear, while Biden was out of gas!

Moderator was clearly biased. A better method may be , have 2 mods. One Republican and one Democrat. Each asks questions to their opponents.