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Yasir Shah bowling with some intent vs KK in PSL
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Cat B for Yasir Shah but does he deserve that?
Cat B for Yasir Shah but does he deserve that?
I think it's about right but could be without a contract come next year or so
So Cat B or out in his case - no middle ground from PCB it seems?
Should have been in a lower this year - C.
Hes bordline b sometimes they give higher just to motivate them not to sure but hes defo out if he doesnt produce results in tests
Hopefully Kashif bhatti plays. He can keep it tight and restrict the run rate.
Time to give shadab khan a long run in tests. He can atleast bat decently on a consistent basis as he showed in England and Ireland in 2018. Yasir is finished.
What is up with Pakistanis and wanting to throw out their players who aren't in form ? Yasir Shah is a very bloody good bowler. Going through some rough patch, cut him some slack.
Time for Zafar Gohar and Zahid Mahmood
The lack of control in Yasir’s bowling is a major concern for PAK. He is still taking wickets but costing too many runs means he is producing wicket taking balls, but in between bowling lots of loose staff. Without penetrative partners, this will always hurt him and PAK - bowling unit will make inroads, but couple of partnerships & the floodgate will open. Yasir is extremely critical for PAK team to keep one side tight, bowling against the wind for long spells; but if he goes for 5.5+ in PAK domestics, he won’t be able to choke batsmen & set pair will cash on his loose ones. I think, it’s an age related terminal decline, assistance from the spin coach & fitness trainer might not help him much - PAK should look for a replacement ASAP.
600 FC wickets for a PAK bowler without County numbers indeed is a great achievement.
The lack of control in Yasir’s bowling is a major concern for PAK. He is still taking wickets but costing too many runs means he is producing wicket taking balls, but in between bowling lots of loose staff. Without penetrative partners, this will always hurt him and PAK - bowling unit will make inroads, but couple of partnerships & the floodgate will open. Yasir is extremely critical for PAK team to keep one side tight, bowling against the wind for long spells; but if he goes for 5.5+ in PAK domestics, he won’t be able to choke batsmen & set pair will cash on his loose ones. I think, it’s an age related terminal decline, assistance from the spin coach & fitness trainer might not help him much - PAK should look for a replacement ASAP.
600 FC wickets for a PAK bowler without County numbers indeed is a great achievement.
The lack of control in Yasir’s bowling is a major concern for PAK. He is still taking wickets but costing too many runs means he is producing wicket taking balls, but in between bowling lots of loose staff. Without penetrative partners, this will always hurt him and PAK - bowling unit will make inroads, but couple of partnerships & the floodgate will open. Yasir is extremely critical for PAK team to keep one side tight, bowling against the wind for long spells; but if he goes for 5.5+ in PAK domestics, he won’t be able to choke batsmen & set pair will cash on his loose ones. I think, it’s an age related terminal decline, assistance from the spin coach & fitness trainer might not help him much - PAK should look for a replacement ASAP.
600 FC wickets for a PAK bowler without County numbers indeed is a great achievement.
Ramiz Raja blamed Yasir Shah for Pakistani bowling's poor showing in England a few months ago especially that final test match. He opinioned that Yasir is the senior most experienced bowler and has had enough experience of bowling in SENA conditions, him leaking runs massively especially on day 1 meant more pressure and stress in an already inexperienced bowling attack of Shaheen and Nasim.
I agree with him. Yasir's wickets are useless if he is conceeding 150-200 runs in the innings, any bowler who picks up 5 wickets in an innings needs to do it by not conceeding more than 90 or 100 runs to boast of a class performance
The lack of control in Yasir’s bowling is a major concern for PAK. He is still taking wickets but costing too many runs means he is producing wicket taking balls, but in between bowling lots of loose staff. Without penetrative partners, this will always hurt him and PAK - bowling unit will make inroads, but couple of partnerships & the floodgate will open. Yasir is extremely critical for PAK team to keep one side tight, bowling against the wind for long spells; but if he goes for 5.5+ in PAK domestics, he won’t be able to choke batsmen & set pair will cash on his loose ones. I think, it’s an age related terminal decline, assistance from the spin coach & fitness trainer might not help him much - PAK should look for a replacement ASAP.
600 FC wickets for a PAK bowler without County numbers indeed is a great achievement.
[MENTION=148759]HappyWarsFan[/MENTION]: I don't think a finger spinner can serve the purpose of a leggi, definitely not outside Asia (Excluding WIN). Bowlers like Ajmal was a freak - took a 10for in SAF, but only purpose for a finger spinner outside Asia could be economy. I don't see anyone for that - even Gohar's domestic economy is close to 3. Therefore PAK MUST find a Leg-spinner for long term solution; who can operate on such tracks against the wind, using drift and foot-marks - problem is, last few years they never tried to find one. I have written about Shahzaib, Usama, the Leggi guy (For got name - Irfan?) few seasons back was bowling beautifully, Zahid - one of them should have been ready by now.
This is where I am damn upset the way Shadab is heading - he'll end up losing his spot in PCT because of failure to develop one core skill - he is not skilled enough to be a top 6 batsman and he is not developing his natural suit - leg spin. His current skills both with bat & ball can work in T20s, but at this bowling rate, he'll be man handled on Indian tracks in 2023 WC, let alone Test cricket. Yes, Gohar is the best available of the lot and can bat a bit as well - he should be a permanent member in Test XI for PAK every where. If Gohar & Shadab can improve their batting & bowling a bit not letting other skill go down, PAK can & should think of playing two spinners in most SENA Tests as well, with 3 out & out pacers, Rizwan keeping his batting form as well - that makes, 5 batsmen, Rizwan, Shadab, Gohar + Shaheen & the fittest two pacers available: I don't mind Abbas & Naseem/Adil for NZ trip. If they want to go for a little more pace heavy XI keeping batting coverage intact - I'll drop Shadab for Yamin, BUT not Gohar. One specialist spinner HAS TO BE part of PAK's plan - if not leggi, next best is SLAO. Sajid was never in my book outside Asia, and I read he might be born as 7-8 years old ......
[MENTION=149054]shamaan[/MENTION]: The world is going through a scarcity of genuine leggi - it's a scary thought that after Yasir, Adil Rashid is probably best leggi in world, and IND/AUS has their best leggi in Chakravarty & Zampa...... But, still, recent days, Yasir's control is missing and you can't hide that just by saying leggis go for runs as they are attacking options. There was no bigger attacker that late A Qadir, and still he had an impressive economy even for 80s standard. Yes, that 4+1 bowling combination can work, but not with 1 Shadab and not with 4 Shaheen/Naseem/Abbas like bat. It can only work as I have mentioned earlier - one genuine spinner (batting is bonus), three genuine pacer (batting bonus), and the 4th one has to be a batsman/bowler combination in between Yamin & Talat. You can't put a PAK XI with four pacers and a novice whom Captain doesn't trust with 277 to defend on last innings. PAK is not ENG and the cricket philosophy is different - those who sell these ideas of four pacers and one part-time spinner, actually are ignorant about what Intekhab, Qashim, Qadir, Mushtaq, Saqline, Danish, Ajmal or Yasir had done for PAK even in SENA Tests.
[MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION]: What has worked for me most times is interpret exactly opposite of what Rambo Raja tells - his biggest asset (apart from family links) is that among PAK cricketers, his English is among the best and media needs PAK commentator - he is fitting the bill. Yes, Yasir has fallen down from his grace, but even for that last Test, it'll be stupid to blame Yasir, because that guy brought Poms to 128/4 within three hours of first morning blowing England's top order on a perfect batting strip - it was the shambolic below per show (for the hype) of Shaheen & Naseem that from that position, Poms went to declare after almost 600 on board, that too at around 4/over - may I ask Rambo what was the output of the pacers on second morning with a new ball at hand & over night rest - and I'll name the guy this time - Shaheen Shah, I did watch PAK's bowling on second morning. Yasir is going for that much because the much hyped pacers are not getting enough batsmen out, neither keeping run-rate down and their fitness level is amateurish - result is that Captain is forced to bowl Yasir 29-30 overs on Day 1 of a Test match in SENA. It'll be stupid to think that fourth pacer will solve the problem when three are hopping with tongue hanging out after 6 overs first spell.
If a bowler takes 5 for 100, then the opponents shouldn't cross 300, max 350 ...... if they reach 575 with one man taking 3-4-5 wickets for 170, then the other three bowlers should try their luck in circus as clowns, rather than bowling in Test cricket. In any way, Rambo or whoever can't blame Yasir for the recent show of PCT - the target has to be somewhere else, otherwise you'll keep blaming the next Yasir. As I wrote in some other thread - PAK has won 5 Tests outside Asia in last 7-8 years, excluding IRL - 2 in WIN, 3 in UK and Yasir has played 4 of those Tests - has taken 32 wickets at 21 with an economy around 3 and 5 5fors I believe - that's more than entire PAK team has produced outside Asia bar YK's 218 & Azhar's 140+ may be .... those cute knocks from Babar Azam are as useless as it comes, least said about other talents are better.
The guy is over aged, struggling for fitness and now in terminal decline - so, he has to be phased out, no doubt in that, but the guy should never be defamed or questioned for his performance - it's opposite actually, those famous AUS/SAF Tests where Yasir failed, just try to realize what the hosts did with other 10 PAK players despite the talent, you'll get your clue. Even then, this guy saved PAK from an innings defeat at the hands of Warner alone with his bat - he must be respected.
[MENTION=148759]HappyWarsFan[/MENTION]: I don't think a finger spinner can serve the purpose of a leggi, definitely not outside Asia (Excluding WIN). Bowlers like Ajmal was a freak - took a 10for in SAF, but only purpose for a finger spinner outside Asia could be economy. I don't see anyone for that - even Gohar's domestic economy is close to 3. Therefore PAK MUST find a Leg-spinner for long term solution; who can operate on such tracks against the wind, using drift and foot-marks - problem is, last few years they never tried to find one. I have written about Shahzaib, Usama, the Leggi guy (For got name - Irfan?) few seasons back was bowling beautifully, Zahid - one of them should have been ready by now.
This is where I am damn upset the way Shadab is heading - he'll end up losing his spot in PCT because of failure to develop one core skill - he is not skilled enough to be a top 6 batsman and he is not developing his natural suit - leg spin. His current skills both with bat & ball can work in T20s, but at this bowling rate, he'll be man handled on Indian tracks in 2023 WC, let alone Test cricket. Yes, Gohar is the best available of the lot and can bat a bit as well - he should be a permanent member in Test XI for PAK every where. If Gohar & Shadab can improve their batting & bowling a bit not letting other skill go down, PAK can & should think of playing two spinners in most SENA Tests as well, with 3 out & out pacers, Rizwan keeping his batting form as well - that makes, 5 batsmen, Rizwan, Shadab, Gohar + Shaheen & the fittest two pacers available: I don't mind Abbas & Naseem/Adil for NZ trip. If they want to go for a little more pace heavy XI keeping batting coverage intact - I'll drop Shadab for Yamin, BUT not Gohar. One specialist spinner HAS TO BE part of PAK's plan - if not leggi, next best is SLAO. Sajid was never in my book outside Asia, and I read he might be born as 7-8 years old ......
[MENTION=149054]shamaan[/MENTION]: The world is going through a scarcity of genuine leggi - it's a scary thought that after Yasir, Adil Rashid is probably best leggi in world, and IND/AUS has their best leggi in Chakravarty & Zampa...... But, still, recent days, Yasir's control is missing and you can't hide that just by saying leggis go for runs as they are attacking options. There was no bigger attacker that late A Qadir, and still he had an impressive economy even for 80s standard. Yes, that 4+1 bowling combination can work, but not with 1 Shadab and not with 4 Shaheen/Naseem/Abbas like bat. It can only work as I have mentioned earlier - one genuine spinner (batting is bonus), three genuine pacer (batting bonus), and the 4th one has to be a batsman/bowler combination in between Yamin & Talat. You can't put a PAK XI with four pacers and a novice whom Captain doesn't trust with 277 to defend on last innings. PAK is not ENG and the cricket philosophy is different - those who sell these ideas of four pacers and one part-time spinner, actually are ignorant about what Intekhab, Qashim, Qadir, Mushtaq, Saqline, Danish, Ajmal or Yasir had done for PAK even in SENA Tests.
[MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION]: What has worked for me most times is interpret exactly opposite of what Rambo Raja tells - his biggest asset (apart from family links) is that among PAK cricketers, his English is among the best and media needs PAK commentator - he is fitting the bill. Yes, Yasir has fallen down from his grace, but even for that last Test, it'll be stupid to blame Yasir, because that guy brought Poms to 128/4 within three hours of first morning blowing England's top order on a perfect batting strip - it was the shambolic below per show (for the hype) of Shaheen & Naseem that from that position, Poms went to declare after almost 600 on board, that too at around 4/over - may I ask Rambo what was the output of the pacers on second morning with a new ball at hand & over night rest - and I'll name the guy this time - Shaheen Shah, I did watch PAK's bowling on second morning. Yasir is going for that much because the much hyped pacers are not getting enough batsmen out, neither keeping run-rate down and their fitness level is amateurish - result is that Captain is forced to bowl Yasir 29-30 overs on Day 1 of a Test match in SENA. It'll be stupid to think that fourth pacer will solve the problem when three are hopping with tongue hanging out after 6 overs first spell.
If a bowler takes 5 for 100, then the opponents shouldn't cross 300, max 350 ...... if they reach 575 with one man taking 3-4-5 wickets for 170, then the other three bowlers should try their luck in circus as clowns, rather than bowling in Test cricket. In any way, Rambo or whoever can't blame Yasir for the recent show of PCT - the target has to be somewhere else, otherwise you'll keep blaming the next Yasir. As I wrote in some other thread - PAK has won 5 Tests outside Asia in last 7-8 years, excluding IRL - 2 in WIN, 3 in UK and Yasir has played 4 of those Tests - has taken 32 wickets at 21 with an economy around 3 and 5 5fors I believe - that's more than entire PAK team has produced outside Asia bar YK's 218 & Azhar's 140+ may be .... those cute knocks from Babar Azam are as useless as it comes, least said about other talents are better.
The guy is over aged, struggling for fitness and now in terminal decline - so, he has to be phased out, no doubt in that, but the guy should never be defamed or questioned for his performance - it's opposite actually, those famous AUS/SAF Tests where Yasir failed, just try to realize what the hosts did with other 10 PAK players despite the talent, you'll get your clue. Even then, this guy saved PAK from an innings defeat at the hands of Warner alone with his bat - he must be respected.
[MENTION=148759]HappyWarsFan[/MENTION]: I don't think a finger spinner can serve the purpose of a leggi, definitely not outside Asia (Excluding WIN). Bowlers like Ajmal was a freak - took a 10for in SAF, but only purpose for a finger spinner outside Asia could be economy. I don't see anyone for that - even Gohar's domestic economy is close to 3. Therefore PAK MUST find a Leg-spinner for long term solution; who can operate on such tracks against the wind, using drift and foot-marks - problem is, last few years they never tried to find one. I have written about Shahzaib, Usama, the Leggi guy (For got name - Irfan?) few seasons back was bowling beautifully, Zahid - one of them should have been ready by now.
This is where I am damn upset the way Shadab is heading - he'll end up losing his spot in PCT because of failure to develop one core skill - he is not skilled enough to be a top 6 batsman and he is not developing his natural suit - leg spin. His current skills both with bat & ball can work in T20s, but at this bowling rate, he'll be man handled on Indian tracks in 2023 WC, let alone Test cricket. Yes, Gohar is the best available of the lot and can bat a bit as well - he should be a permanent member in Test XI for PAK every where. If Gohar & Shadab can improve their batting & bowling a bit not letting other skill go down, PAK can & should think of playing two spinners in most SENA Tests as well, with 3 out & out pacers, Rizwan keeping his batting form as well - that makes, 5 batsmen, Rizwan, Shadab, Gohar + Shaheen & the fittest two pacers available: I don't mind Abbas & Naseem/Adil for NZ trip. If they want to go for a little more pace heavy XI keeping batting coverage intact - I'll drop Shadab for Yamin, BUT not Gohar. One specialist spinner HAS TO BE part of PAK's plan - if not leggi, next best is SLAO. Sajid was never in my book outside Asia, and I read he might be born as 7-8 years old ......
[MENTION=149054]shamaan[/MENTION]: The world is going through a scarcity of genuine leggi - it's a scary thought that after Yasir, Adil Rashid is probably best leggi in world, and IND/AUS has their best leggi in Chakravarty & Zampa...... But, still, recent days, Yasir's control is missing and you can't hide that just by saying leggis go for runs as they are attacking options. There was no bigger attacker that late A Qadir, and still he had an impressive economy even for 80s standard. Yes, that 4+1 bowling combination can work, but not with 1 Shadab and not with 4 Shaheen/Naseem/Abbas like bat. It can only work as I have mentioned earlier - one genuine spinner (batting is bonus), three genuine pacer (batting bonus), and the 4th one has to be a batsman/bowler combination in between Yamin & Talat. You can't put a PAK XI with four pacers and a novice whom Captain doesn't trust with 277 to defend on last innings. PAK is not ENG and the cricket philosophy is different - those who sell these ideas of four pacers and one part-time spinner, actually are ignorant about what Intekhab, Qashim, Qadir, Mushtaq, Saqline, Danish, Ajmal or Yasir had done for PAK even in SENA Tests.
[MENTION=2501]Savak[/MENTION]: What has worked for me most times is interpret exactly opposite of what Rambo Raja tells - his biggest asset (apart from family links) is that among PAK cricketers, his English is among the best and media needs PAK commentator - he is fitting the bill. Yes, Yasir has fallen down from his grace, but even for that last Test, it'll be stupid to blame Yasir, because that guy brought Poms to 128/4 within three hours of first morning blowing England's top order on a perfect batting strip - it was the shambolic below per show (for the hype) of Shaheen & Naseem that from that position, Poms went to declare after almost 600 on board, that too at around 4/over - may I ask Rambo what was the output of the pacers on second morning with a new ball at hand & over night rest - and I'll name the guy this time - Shaheen Shah, I did watch PAK's bowling on second morning. Yasir is going for that much because the much hyped pacers are not getting enough batsmen out, neither keeping run-rate down and their fitness level is amateurish - result is that Captain is forced to bowl Yasir 29-30 overs on Day 1 of a Test match in SENA. It'll be stupid to think that fourth pacer will solve the problem when three are hopping with tongue hanging out after 6 overs first spell.
If a bowler takes 5 for 100, then the opponents shouldn't cross 300, max 350 ...... if they reach 575 with one man taking 3-4-5 wickets for 170, then the other three bowlers should try their luck in circus as clowns, rather than bowling in Test cricket. In any way, Rambo or whoever can't blame Yasir for the recent show of PCT - the target has to be somewhere else, otherwise you'll keep blaming the next Yasir. As I wrote in some other thread - PAK has won 5 Tests outside Asia in last 7-8 years, excluding IRL - 2 in WIN, 3 in UK and Yasir has played 4 of those Tests - has taken 32 wickets at 21 with an economy around 3 and 5 5fors I believe - that's more than entire PAK team has produced outside Asia bar YK's 218 & Azhar's 140+ may be .... those cute knocks from Babar Azam are as useless as it comes, least said about other talents are better.
The guy is over aged, struggling for fitness and now in terminal decline - so, he has to be phased out, no doubt in that, but the guy should never be defamed or questioned for his performance - it's opposite actually, those famous AUS/SAF Tests where Yasir failed, just try to realize what the hosts did with other 10 PAK players despite the talent, you'll get your clue. Even then, this guy saved PAK from an innings defeat at the hands of Warner alone with his bat - he must be respected.
Shadab should be playing the 4 day domestic competition, i am annoyed as to why is he not playing in the premier FC competition. He needs the massive number of toiling overs under his belt to improve his control.
These useless bilaterals against the likes of Zimbabwe are a curse. Nothing against Zimbabwe, but our youngsters will learning bashing them in a few meaningless T20s. Likes of Shadab, Hasnain, Abdullah, Haider all need to be playing QEA Trophy.
In modern cricket, Yasir Shah really stands out as the test bowler who goes for over 120 runs in an innings in SENA far, far more often than any other bowler.
54-6-213-1 at Manchester
43-4-172-2 at Birmingham
43.1-6-129-2 at Brisbane
41-2-207-3 at Melbourne
40-2-124-1 at Sydney (First innings)
14-0-124-0 at Sydney (Second innings)
48.4-1-205-4 at Brisbane
32-1-192-0 at Adelaide
39-3-173-2 at Southampton
By way of comparison, on the few occasions that Nathan Lyon has ever conceded 150 runs in an innings in SENA his figures were more along the lines of:
34.1-5-152-7.
Horrific figures, embarrassing and shameful for a Pakistan test cricketer. Needs to be flunged out.
I would have to add though, he wasn't helped by Misbah's equally inept, idiotic and incompetent planning when it came to deploying Yasir effectively.
In modern cricket, Yasir Shah really stands out as the test bowler who goes for over 120 runs in an innings in SENA far, far more often than any other bowler.
54-6-213-1 at Manchester
43-4-172-2 at Birmingham
43.1-6-129-2 at Brisbane
41-2-207-3 at Melbourne
40-2-124-1 at Sydney (First innings)
14-0-124-0 at Sydney (Second innings)
48.4-1-205-4 at Brisbane
32-1-192-0 at Adelaide
39-3-173-2 at Southampton
By way of comparison, on the few occasions that Nathan Lyon has ever conceded 150 runs in an innings in SENA his figures were more along the lines of:
34.1-5-152-7.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] ok, in recent times Yasir has been important for Pakistans test wins outside of asia. But if we look back to 2011, Abdur Rehman was also very successful in NZ and pakistan won the series with an attack of Wahab, Gul and Tanvir.
PAK's Test history will tell what quality spinners has done for them in SENA & WIN tours, remember the word "Quality", not bits & pieces part-timers. Check this one
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...=7;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings
Wow, Danish kaneria is there more often than I thought in recent times. Seems like he was a very good leggie , better than his stats show, based on his good success in AUS and NZ.
Abdur Rehman and Ajmal also there for recent times. Yea, quality spinners are really.importsnt and this shows that. Really hoping Zafar Gohar can step up and be the next guy in line, even if he's a finger spinner.
You are the one who once had a famous comment in this PakPassion: "Nathan Lyon is the weak link of Australian attack". That has one clue in it - he doesn't bowl with average bowlers.
Coming to your fabricated data, Lyon took that 7 for on a tailor made spinners' dry track where his batsmen gave him 400+ to defend and India (Kohli) actually went for the chase, didn't try to kick out for a whole day. Three times, three times in his entire career career Yasir Shah was given by his batsmen something on board to bowl with second time in SENA - once by Misbah at Lord's, once by YK at Oval & last one at Old Trafford - you know his figures:
31-9-69-4 (& 29-6-72-6 in first innings)
29-4-71-5
30-3-99-4 (& 18-2-66-4 in first innings)
That's, 90-16-239-13 - average of 18.38, economy of 2.66.
In SENA, one of which is his home country, in his career, Lyon has conceded 100+ runs in 26 innings, for 69 wickets and at an average of 46+, economy of 3.36 - that's with three Australian pacers among Starc, Pattinson, Cummins, Hazlewood, Mo Johnson, Peter Siddle and Jhye Richardson ..... you want me to name the talents Yasir had been bowling with - talents that has made Mickey Arthur still hankering around PCB .... to coach that talent?
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...rt;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings
I have seen you trying to post Yasir's figure and defame him - next time, please put the match scores along with it to show what wonders his other 3 bowling partners did in those Tests... that'll show your proper spirit, otherwise your bias against Yasir is getting exposed every time I respond.
Frankly, you give to much credence to Yasir Shah's performances in England.
In 2016 he had the accuracy and the revs on the ball to bowl Pakistan to victory at Lords and The Oval.
At Old Trafford this year his figures of 8-165 were not match-winning ones, and were inflated by late wickets after he had lost Pakistan the match.
Misbah has always had a muddled view of what Yasir Shah can do in SENA. In Asia the uneven pitches allow him to be used a stock bowler who can keep the score in check even when he is not taking wickets.
But he is still a wrist spinner, and not one with the metronomic accuracy of Shane Warne. On truer pitches outside Asia, especially in SENA where they have more grass, he is too easy to score off without the batsman taking any risks.
A finger spinner like Sajid Khan or Zafar Gohar can probably keep the scoring rate in check, whereas Yasir Shah generally goes for 4 runs per over in SENA.
Yasir Shah is officially 34 and a half years old, and he hasn't won a Test in SENA since his first ever SENA tour.
I don't want Yasir Shah to play as my fourth bowler in SENA and have figures of 40-3-170-2.
I would rather play both Shadab Khan and Faheem Ashraf (or Hasan Ali), and see them return:
Faheem / Hasan 25-7-60-3 in the First Innings
Shadab 10-3-40-1 in the First Innings
Faheem / Hasan 15-5-40-1 in the Second Innings
Shadab 25-5-90-3 in the Second Innings
Yasir Shah will give you 40-3-170-2 in the First Innings, and there probably won't even be a Second Innings.
Shadab plus a fourth quick will give you:
35-10-100-4 in the First Innings
40-10-130-4 in the Second Innings
The whole point is that any leg spinner is a part/timer in SENA!I saw all three tests and shadab bowled like a part timer whenever he got a chance, the only time he got some wickets was when yasir had already destroyed England's middle order.
Hanuma vihari picked three wickets in an innings in australia and he had better figures than jadeja and ashwin but anyone who saw those tests knew that all three of them were lucky wickets and just a fluke nothing more.
I saw all three tests and shadab bowled like a part timer whenever he got a chance, the only time he got some wickets was when yasir had already destroyed England's middle order.
Hanuma vihari picked three wickets in an innings in australia and he had better figures than jadeja and ashwin but anyone who saw those tests knew that all three of them were lucky wickets and just a fluke nothing more.
After blowing whole summer Shadab’s trumpet for the two wickets of No. 10 & 11 for his superior strike rate; here you have come to tell that the man taking 8 of the 15 wickets PAK, inflated his stats with tailenders after losing the Test!!!!!
Junaids, you have been caught at tight corners many times for your hypothetical figures that you see in your dreams - figures like batting average of 38 & bowling average of 35 by Mo Nawaz is still laughing at you. Every time what you do is put some imaginary numbers, then run away from discussion and few days later put the same figures in another thread. Boss, Shadab Khan wasn’t given 25 balls by his Captain to defend 277 on day four track.....
Anyway, this time I won’t waste my time - the day PAK plays Shadab & four quicks, I’ll bring you here.
The whole point is that any leg spinner is a part/timer in SENA!
And yet the theoretical bowling figures that I laid out for Shadab and Faheem match their SENA Test records exactly!
Frankly, you give to much credence to Yasir Shah's performances in England.
In 2016 he had the accuracy and the revs on the ball to bowl Pakistan to victory at Lords and The Oval.
At Old Trafford this year his figures of 8-165 were not match-winning ones, and were inflated by late wickets after he had lost Pakistan the match.
Misbah has always had a muddled view of what Yasir Shah can do in SENA. In Asia the uneven pitches allow him to be used a stock bowler who can keep the score in check even when he is not taking wickets.
But he is still a wrist spinner, and not one with the metronomic accuracy of Shane Warne. On truer pitches outside Asia, especially in SENA where they have more grass, he is too easy to score off without the batsman taking any risks.
A finger spinner like Sajid Khan or Zafar Gohar can probably keep the scoring rate in check, whereas Yasir Shah generally goes for 4 runs per over in SENA.
Yasir Shah is officially 34 and a half years old, and he hasn't won a Test in SENA since his first ever SENA tour.
I don't want Yasir Shah to play as my fourth bowler in SENA and have figures of 40-3-170-2.
I would rather play both Shadab Khan and Faheem Ashraf (or Hasan Ali), and see them return:
Faheem / Hasan 25-7-60-3 in the First Innings
Shadab 10-3-40-1 in the First Innings
Faheem / Hasan 15-5-40-1 in the Second Innings
Shadab 25-5-90-3 in the Second Innings
Yasir Shah will give you 40-3-170-2 in the First Innings, and there probably won't even be a Second Innings.
Shadab plus a fourth quick will give you:
35-10-100-4 in the First Innings
40-10-130-4 in the Second Innings
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How will Yasir Shah fare in the Test series vs NZ?
Yasir Shah is on borrowed time i am afraid. He doesn't play ODI and T-20 Cricket, he will now be forced to play test matches outside the UAE and therefore his effectiveness will be limited.
Gonna fail again. Him playing on this green top weakens the bowling
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How will Yasir Shah fare in the Test series vs NZ?
If the wickets remain similar then better to rest him and play 4 pacers.
One main reason is that the Test won’t last more than three days for Yasir to make his mark. Also, I think in any case PAK should bowl first in NZ, reducing Yasir’s utility on fourth innings.
If the wickets remain similar then better to rest him and play 4 pacers.
One main reason is that the Test won’t last more than three days for Yasir to make his mark. Also, I think in any case PAK should bowl first in NZ, reducing Yasir’s utility on fourth innings.
He is trash outside of Asia
Anybody got his stats in SA, Aus, NZ?