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[VIDEOS] Abdul Samad: The answer to Pakistan's quest for a middle-order powerhouse

@Rana @mominsaigol

I have high expectations from this lad. He can be something big for Pakistan in the future. It's just that we need to invest in him right now in the domestic circuit and let him play for another year in domestic cricket. Whenever he has 50 List-A games under his belt, we can unleash him in ODIs and he will be a blockbuster. Fingers crossed.
 
FearlessRoar said:
@Rana @mominsaigol

I have high expectations from this lad. He can be something big for Pakistan in the future. It's just that we need to invest in him right now in the domestic circuit and let him play for another year in domestic cricket. Whenever he has 50 List-A games under his belt, we can unleash him in ODIs and he will be a blockbuster. Fingers crossed.
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Sooner or later the Misbah Genes will start showing I’m afraid

Just take it as it goes.
 
Pakistan doesn’t need anything fancy. It just needs batters who are not liabilities against quality attacks.
 
What a decent knock from Abdul Samad today made 42(37) against Lions while chasing. His team lost but the way he hit clean boundaries was fascinating.

A probable future star
 
Pakistan's renowned cricket commentator, Shah Faisal, during an exclusive chat with PakPassion, shared his views about Abdul Samad:

"Like Abdul Samad, as I pointed out earlier as well, Pakistan has players of all abilities and skills. The question remains, how will they come to the fore? That's the main job."

"About Abdul Samad, it's too soon to draw conclusions; you need to keep an eye on him. He has shown exceptional ability as a natural striker of the ball."

"We need middle-order batters who possess physical presence as well. When they come in to bat, the opposing team should know that when he hits the ball, it won't fall on the ground."

"I've spoken to him, and he exudes confidence. Here, the system's role becomes crucial."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1837416481383972972
 
Most of these 'big hitters' of domestic cannot replicate their performance in Intl cricket. Khushdil is one example. Sammad has done well against trundlers in this tournament but I will be surprised if he has the ability to do that against 145 kph bouncers. He hits spinners well but then again quality of Pakistani spin these days in at an all time low.
 
Abdul Samad gone cheaply today as he made 2(10) against Panthers while playing for the Markhors in the Qualifier of Champions One-Day Cup 2024.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Abdul Samad gone cheaply today as he made 2(10) against Panthers while playing for the Markhors in the Qualifier of Champions One-Day Cup 2024.
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He lacks basics which is terrible for a 26 year old guy or may be he is under extreme anxiety for not getting chance again if he fails which eventually led his downfall, seems mentally weak and can’t play confident shots at the start of the innings
 
Abdul Samad in Champions One-Day Cup 2024

Matches 6
Runs 145
HS 62
Average 24.16
SR 122.88

Hit or Flop?
 
FearlessRoar said:
Abdul Samad in Champions One-Day Cup 2024

Matches 6
Runs 145
HS 62
Average 24.16
SR 122.88

Hit or Flop?
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Really just one good innings where he showed some potential but in the end you could say these were Asif Ali’s stats and no one would know the difference.
 
Farabi said:
For someone to have been around that long, surprised to see such few list A and FC matches. A FC average of 12 is telling.
I hope they don’t get carried away by this fluke innings. Find reliable FC batters.
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A candid reminder that you cannot ignore consistent domestic performance. Unless folks stop getting carried away by fluke innings here and there, and prioritize consistency, Pakistan cricket is unlikely to upgrade.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Won 1 game out of 6 single handedly.

Is that good enough for a finisher.

I think it's ok
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You want him in the team already? I dont mind taking him but it's better to maybe wait.

The hype of his first innings has died down on everyone now.
 
From this tournament I have seen so many batters who are half cooked , some can play spin well , some can play bounce and pace , some can construct an innings , some good at playing in the gaps , some can play swing , but none of them have more than 1 or max 2 of those skills which are required for International batters.
 
You need a batter who can play pace , bounce , movement and knows how to construct an innings while can play in the gaps as well , this is the bare minimum requirement for an international batter if you don't include innovative shots or power hitting and sadly none of the batter meets this criteria apart from may be Kamran Ghulam but even he struggles against moving deliveries.

Samad can play bounce and pace well and can play spin as well but apart from that he has no other skills to succeed.
 
mominsaigol said:
You want him in the team already? I dont mind taking him but it's better to maybe wait.

The hype of his first innings has died down on everyone now.
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Not in the team but shouldn't be written off completely either. That performance was one of the best I've seen in ages. We need to see if he can replicate it. But we should be realistic no player can do that every game.

Hopefully he plays more domestic cricket and PSL to see what he can do.

He is far from international at the moment.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Not in the team but shouldn't be written off completely either. That performance was one of the best I've seen in ages. We need to see if he can replicate it. But we should be realistic no player can do that every game.

Hopefully he plays more domestic cricket and PSL to see what he can do.

He is far from international at the moment.
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He is playing cricket since 2013 and still hasn't got his basics right , tells you alot about coaching standard and concept of grooming in our domestic cricket.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Not in the team but shouldn't be written off completely either. That performance was one of the best I've seen in ages. We need to see if he can replicate it. But we should be realistic no player can do that every game.

Hopefully he plays more domestic cricket and PSL to see what he can do.

He is far from international at the moment.
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I'm fine with him being a no 7 in the future for pakistan cricket. But only after next psl season assuming he performs.
 
He's unstoppable, already racing to 21* off 6 against India in the ACC Men's T20 Emerging Teams Asia Cup 2024
 
The guy can absolutely hammer it

But he needs a bit more experience at the higher level to understand his game better

Such a shame that he was never given enough opportunities previously, but I hope he learns quickly
 
You can’t be the finisher if you can’t finish

Guy was 22 off 7 and slowed down

Missed slot balls at the end. That’s not finishing.
 
Pakistan will struggle to find a finisher for the next decade to come whilst LOIs continue to evolve because finishing a game is an art form that requires a strong base in: game sense, temperament, shot variety, and/or power.

It's like being bound to get a D in an exam because you just understand the concepts of the things you try to predict will come in the paper rather than knowing the syllabus inside-out.

Samad has some shots the way Iftikhar does but I don't needing to dig into his crease for pick-up shots of any kind. One thing that has been missing from any sort of finisher Pakistan has sought to develop is fundamentally very one-dimensional, weak base: whether it's Asif Ali, Khushdil, Iftikhar, Talat, Haider Ali or whatever we have seen from Samad. It's actually astonishing how poor these fundamentals are and how when these players are being polished in the NCA the lack of power is evident. It's why Ramiz tried to hire a gimmick power-hitting "coach".

Let him have his game time but he's no answer if anyone is trying to hype him up. And he won't be when he plays everything off the back foot at this level. 'Match winner' Nawaz in LOIs has had better success as a 'finisher' and at times Imad in PSL, because both had better game sense, composure and the shots across the ground to target their matchups where desirable - even without the archetypical finisher power build. It's also why Rizwan failed lower down the order.

It's time Pakistani fans learn to groom an eye for finishing beyond someone who can hoick a biggie in cow corner or hammer slot deliveries - it's pure desperation. Unless people here and in general understand this (and I don't blame them because we've never actually had someone of this kind, that Australia, India, WI and even Eng produce by the dozen) - unless that is done, then the push to play more aggressive modern-day LOI cricket is senseless and will turn into more frustration after social media pressure picks flop for being inferior to no fault of their own.

That being said, I see no harm in developing M. Haris down the order if we opt for Fakhar/Saim to start opening in this format. No finisher by any means but he needs a clear purpose as he has the shot variety, can clear the fences, and has elements of the right temperament. You can't develop game sense unless you have a purpose in the team and he will never figure it out going through the motions in franchise/domestic cricket just opening with a free pass to play whatever he wants however.
 
marzupian said:
Pakistan will struggle to find a finisher for the next decade to come whilst LOIs continue to evolve because finishing a game is an art form that requires a strong base in: game sense, temperament, shot variety, and/or power.

It's like being bound to get a D in an exam because you just understand the concepts of the things you try to predict will come in the paper rather than knowing the syllabus inside-out.

Samad has some shots the way Iftikhar does but I don't needing to dig into his crease for pick-up shots of any kind. One thing that has been missing from any sort of finisher Pakistan has sought to develop is fundamentally very one-dimensional, weak base: whether it's Asif Ali, Khushdil, Iftikhar, Talat, Haider Ali or whatever we have seen from Samad. It's actually astonishing how poor these fundamentals are and how when these players are being polished in the NCA the lack of power is evident. It's why Ramiz tried to hire a gimmick power-hitting "coach".

Let him have his game time but he's no answer if anyone is trying to hype him up. And he won't be when he plays everything off the back foot at this level. 'Match winner' Nawaz in LOIs has had better success as a 'finisher' and at times Imad in PSL, because both had better game sense, composure and the shots across the ground to target their matchups where desirable - even without the archetypical finisher power build. It's also why Rizwan failed lower down the order.

It's time Pakistani fans learn to groom an eye for finishing beyond someone who can hoick a biggie in cow corner or hammer slot deliveries - it's pure desperation. Unless people here and in general understand this (and I don't blame them because we've never actually had someone of this kind, that Australia, India, WI and even Eng produce by the dozen) - unless that is done, then the push to play more aggressive modern-day LOI cricket is senseless and will turn into more frustration after social media pressure picks flop for being inferior to no fault of their own.

That being said, I see no harm in developing M. Haris down the order if we opt for Fakhar/Saim to start opening in this format. No finisher by any means but he needs a clear purpose as he has the shot variety, can clear the fences, and has elements of the right temperament. You can't develop game sense unless you have a purpose in the team and he will never figure it out going through the motions in franchise/domestic cricket just opening with a free pass to play whatever he wants however.
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Absolutely well said
 
Rana said:
You can’t be the finisher if you can’t finish

Guy was 22 off 7 and slowed down

Missed slot balls at the end. That’s not finishing.
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From little i saw he is trying this Dinesh Karthik technique. At the start stand outside and go deep inside the crease. SOoner or later bowlers will figure that out. INitially they took a while to spot this. Then they started bowling full negating the advantage he gains from going deep in.
 
Not gonna hype him too much atm. He is still far far away from being ready. Needs to play more domestic games. Maybe Shaheens can offer him that exposure to play against Outside world.
 
Abdul Samad contributed a vital 56 (63), helping Pakistan Shaheens set a total of 306/7 against Sri Lanka A in the first One-Day.
 
I would like to see him play more FC games and bump up that average. Hard to think a player with 14 FC average has much international potential until he improves that. Yes, LOI is a different game but you still need a certain base and defence when match situation calls for it. Looking back at game logs when he first debuted domestically, it seems like he opened/top order batsmen for some reason.

Looks intriguing though especially considering how limited Pakistan middle order options are.
 
Soon he is gonna be hyped much to get selected in the team. Not sure about this guy atm. Looks like a one-match wonder.
 
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