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[VIDEOS] Abdullah Shafique - International performance watch

There doesn't seem to be a middle ground for Pak fans. It's either excessive hyperbole or extreme negativity.

A few basic points:

- Clearly too early to say if he is the real deal - we will know in 1 years time after he has played around 5-10 tests in different conditions.

- To those who complained about his slow scoring in 1st innings - you are completely clueless and should be watching gooli-danda because you have no knowledge of cricket

- what is beyond doubt so far is this guy has all the shots, a good temperament and has the FULL skillset to be TOP TOP player IF he works hard and gets the breaks.

So give him some leeway and admire what he is showing SO FAR. He looks extremely impressive and seems a well grounded lad. Insha-Allah he will be the next great Pak opener.
 
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With Pak fans, there is either hyperbole or negativity.

People were moaning about his excellent debut 50 saying it was too slow. Completely ignoring the fact that it is a slow, low wicket where the ball does not come onto the bat and both sides have averaged 80 runs a session. He was clearly instructed by the skipper to back Abid and not thow his wicket away and he did just as the doctor ordered.

I imagine if he had scored a 100 in 50 balls, these same 'fans' would be calling him a slogger and a hack - only suitable for T20.

This is a test match on a very slow, spinning track and counts for world test points. Patience. Patience.
 
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Had a good start to his career. If somehow he can perform well on a consistent basis and if Saud can be brought in the 11 (in place of Azhar), it would be a decent batting line up

Abid (for now)
Abdullah
Saud
Babar *
Fawad
Rizwan +
Faheem/ Nawaz (based on conditions)
 
There doesn't seem to be a middle ground for Pak fans. It's either excessive hyperbole or extreme negativity.

A few basic points:

- Clearly too early to say if he is the real deal - we will know in 1 years time after he has played around 5-10 tests in different conditions.

- To those who complained about his slow scoring in 1st innings - you are completely clueless and should be watching gooli-danda because you have no knowledge of cricket

- what is beyond doubt so far is this guy has all the shots, a good temperament and has the FULL skillset to be TOP TOP player IF he works hard and gets the breaks.

So give him some leeway and admire what he is showing SO FAR. He looks extremely impressive and seems a well grounded lad. Insha-Allah he will be the next great Pak opener.

Glad you pointed out one should avoid hyperbole :) Kidding.
 
I hope he hasn't got the Babar syndrome of getting out early morning when resuming his innings. So an important start tomorrow morning for him.
 
Abdullah Shafique speaking at end of Day 4:

"Day 4 of a Test match is crucial and so our aim was to restrict them to a low total which we could chase down which is what we were able to do"

"When Abid Ali and I went in with a plan to give our side the best start we could give. It wasn't easy as the wicket was turning but we persisted and will try and bat in the same way tomorrow"

"I am very satisfied with my debut, but we must remember that this is a team game and if we do well for the team then its also good for us as individuals"

"We didn't plan anything big in terms of our goals but instead set small targets to achieve"

"I thank the Almighty for my performances as for a youngster, its very satisfying to have done well where I have scored 50s in each innings and would love to carry on this momentum"

"The fifth day and fourth innings are very difficult stages of any Test match and we wont let our guard down and take it easy tomorrow and we will do our best to chase the target down quickly so that there is no pressure on later batters"
 
Clueless batsmen should have milk the runs in session 3 of day 2 after seeing session 1 of day 1 & 2 favoured the bowlers instead he was tuk tuking that's why expirence matters

What the same experienced player that failed with a duck in this test match ?
 
He likes to hit the bigger boundaries but does not have the strength. He is better off rotating the strike.
 
Today Abdullah is playing positively.His strike rate is better than Abid’s.People were criticising him for being slow in his first innings.This is his first match.People should show some patience.

That's the thing people judge people based upon 1 innings and not what he has done before in domestic psl and the rest.
 
I have a weird feeling Pakistan’s best suited Test side is this:

1. Abid
2. Abdullah/Babar
3. Saud Shaqeel
4. Kamran Ghulam
5. Fawad Alam
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Sajid Khan/Nauman Ali

I’m making a brave call here on Babar. I think the PCB should not have made him the Test captain. Time will tell, I could be wrong
 
I have a weird feeling Pakistan’s best suited Test side is this:

1. Abid
2. Abdullah/Babar
3. Saud Shaqeel
4. Kamran Ghulam
5. Fawad Alam
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Sajid Khan/Nauman Ali

I’m making a brave call here on Babar. I think the PCB should not have made him the Test captain. Time will tell, I could be wrong
You are making too much about bad performances against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.
Babar is our most consistent batsman in the format against top teams.
 
I have a weird feeling Pakistan’s best suited Test side is this:

1. Abid
2. Abdullah/Babar
3. Saud Shaqeel
4. Kamran Ghulam
5. Fawad Alam
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Sajid Khan/Nauman Ali

I’m making a brave call here on Babar. I think the PCB should not have made him the Test captain. Time will tell, I could be wrong

Infact Pak can have an all SHAs Bowling Attack.

SHAheen Afridi
SHAhnawaz Dhani
SHAdab Khan
Naseem SHAh
Yasir SHAh

SHAva bhai SHAva
 
I have a weird feeling Pakistan’s best suited Test side is this:

1. Abid
2. Abdullah/Babar
3. Saud Shaqeel
4. Kamran Ghulam
5. Fawad Alam
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Sajid Khan/Nauman Ali

I’m making a brave call here on Babar. I think the PCB should not have made him the Test captain. Time will tell, I could be wrong

See the point made by [MENTION=141843]The Googly[/MENTION].
Pakistan fans are either excessive hyperbole or extreme negativity.
They simply forget that even one year ago, against all the big teams Babar were scoring centuries one after another. But just for last one year, he lost his form in this one format,and his place in the team becomes uncertain.
 
See the point made by [MENTION=141843]The Googly[/MENTION].
Pakistan fans are either excessive hyperbole or extreme negativity.
They simply forget that even one year ago, against all the big teams Babar were scoring centuries one after another. But just for last one year, he lost his form in this one format,and his place in the team becomes uncertain.

What exactly have I said wrong? Babar has locked his place as a number 4 batsman in Tests because of his captaincy. The guys competing for that middle order spot are Saud and Kamran. Both are nearly the same age as him and both average 50 in fc cricket, whereas Babar has been averaging 42 for the past God knows how many years. They are clearly better middle order batsmen than him and we have to come to terms with this.

Babar needs a YK type of purple patch after Woolmer took over for him to become that 50+ Average batsman, but for that he may have to take a complete break from T20 cricket to focus solely on the longer format. For now, the 3 and 4 on merit are Saud and Kamran, not Babar and Azhar
 
Looked absolutely outstanding yesterday. A far cry from the knock he played in the first innings.

Showed exactly why he is such a talked about talent and for someone playing his first test match, the confidence and assurity he showcased at the crease was especially great to see.

I don't know how long it will take for him to establish himself in the longest format...because even the greatest of all-time have had their fair share of struggles before becoming who they became. But I can definitely see him as a major, world-class batter in the future. As well as a regular part of the limited-overs side not too far down the line.
 
I thought he was very unlucky to be given out on that sweep...was kissing off stump...outside offstump was umpires call as well...

Anyways a great debut looked solid
 
What exactly have I said wrong? Babar has locked his place as a number 4 batsman in Tests because of his captaincy. The guys competing for that middle order spot are Saud and Kamran. Both are nearly the same age as him and both average 50 in fc cricket, whereas Babar has been averaging 42 for the past God knows how many years. They are clearly better middle order batsmen than him and we have to come to terms with this.

Babar needs a YK type of purple patch after Woolmer took over for him to become that 50+ Average batsman, but for that he may have to take a complete break from T20 cricket to focus solely on the longer format. For now, the 3 and 4 on merit are Saud and Kamran, not Babar and Azhar


Just because Saud shakeel and Kamran Ghulam need a game wanna throw the captain out even though it was Babar Azam .. :ma fans are crazy

What if Saud and Kamran failed to score after they are given chances...

bring back :sarf
 
Just because Saud shakeel and Kamran Ghulam need a game wanna throw the captain out even though it was Babar Azam .. :ma fans are crazy

What if Saud and Kamran failed to score after they are given chances...

bring back :sarf

Their records suggest they won’t be failing for too long
 
I have a weird feeling Pakistan’s best suited Test side is this:

1. Abid
2. Abdullah/Babar
3. Saud Shaqeel
4. Kamran Ghulam
5. Fawad Alam
6. Mohammad Rizwan
7. Faheem Ashraf
8. Hassan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Shaheen Afridi
11. Sajid Khan/Nauman Ali

I’m making a brave call here on Babar. I think the PCB should not have made him the Test captain. Time will tell, I could be wrong

Let's drop Babar, our best player of this generation. Any other great ideas.
 
Let's drop Babar, our best player of this generation. Any other great ideas.

Yeah well, he can’t keep getting out early and creating a massive mess for our lower middle order to clean up every time. Number 4 is a serious position and he is struggling to handle it for us.
 
Yeah well, he can’t keep getting out early and creating a massive mess for our lower middle order to clean up every time. Number 4 is a serious position and he is struggling to handle it for us.

He can fail for as long as he will and he will always be in my team. Class is permanent.
 
He can fail for as long as he will and he will always be in my team. Class is permanent.

Good luck with that. Class is as good as your performance. If you cannot handle a serious position like number 4 after playing 30 Tests, then you must reconsider as there are guys averaging 50 in those positions in your fc set up. No player is immune to getting dropped or shifted, and if PCB isn’t following this rule then they have no right to be operating on Pakistan tax payer’s money.
 
Good luck with that. Class is as good as your performance. If you cannot handle a serious position like number 4 after playing 30 Tests, then you must reconsider as there are guys averaging 50 in those positions in your fc set up. No player is immune to getting dropped or shifted, and if PCB isn’t following this rule then they have no right to be operating on Pakistan tax payer’s money.

Class is permanent
 
It’s his first Test, folk need to chill with the criticism or praise. But for now he has earned a long rope. Those criticising after the first innings on Test debut :facepalm:
 
Class is permanent

Well then maybe Asad Shafique should still be a part of the side? There is no classier batsman than him, he is much more delightful to the eye in comparison to Fawad Alam and Mohammad Rizwan at least!
 
Well then maybe Asad Shafique should still be a part of the side? There is no classier batsman than him, he is much more delightful to the eye in comparison to Fawad Alam and Mohammad Rizwan at least!

Agree. Asad Shafique is far better option then Azhar and Fawad by a mile. I actually think Asad Shafique at home v Aussies in March should be seriously considered at number 5.
 
Agree. Asad Shafique is far better option then Azhar and Fawad by a mile. I actually think Asad Shafique at home v Aussies in March should be seriously considered at number 5.

Assad technique is struggling in domestics at the moment.
 
Shaheem was rusty when he came. After staying in international cricket for two years did he started to improve.

What we did with saheen was wrong. He was succesful and we got lucky. Not every player is gonna be like that.

Naseem shah, musa, hasnain are the best examples of inexperienced coming in.

Babar azam has loads of experience. He had been part od domestic set up since 2009 before making his debut in 2015.

His fundamentals mean zilch when he has no domestic experience. Unless and until he plays domestic games, does a season or two he aint gonna be a success here. Bowling the likes of bangladesh, zimbabwe is easy.

Throw him against a quality side and his lack of experience will come forward. Than when he gets exposed we will be complaining that another pakistani player was wasted

There is a lot you missed in that post.

Anyway what do you suggest he do? Not play cricket at all just because selectors aren't allowing him to play FC? He clearly would have had two season of domestic cricket by now, had Misbah and later Wasim not selected him for bench duty. Ideally, I had already agreed with you about players playing FC before entering international cricket. But this is not an ideal situation, is it? This is his second year going to waste.

And if he was playing FC cricket, he would have been tearing it up by now, as evident by his performance in BD, against SL-A and debut season with CP (second and first XI).

Fundamentals mean everything, the tell you a lot about how much a player will progress, where he is in his development as a batsman. A player with more solid fundamentals will have a greater chance of success. And Abdullah is pretty good in that regard. Watching him and Abid bat side by side, it should be clear why he will succeed much more against quality opposition that you talk about.

Experience isn't everything and certainly not at the expense of a promising career. It ​along with talent are the two words that have destroyed Pak cricket, I will say experience even more so. From YK hogging the ODI spot for years, to Malik still being in the team, Afridi and countless others. The latest are Azhar, Asad and Sarfraz who have to be on every tour, because hey, experience. It is as useless a word as any.

Finally what are the other options? Abid, Imran and Shan? Who else? If we can allow them to learn on the job with Abid averaging under 20 from 10 tests against teams with decent bowling attacks (basically if you remove his stats against second string BD, SL and Zim), we can certainly give Abdullah the same luxury, who is a way better batsman and about 15 years younger.

Your Haider Ali example is also flawed as that had more to do with him being out of form, which can happen being found out. He clearly has the ability and has showed that both in PSL and International cricket. And again he is on tour so he misses most of the season for sitting on the bench in the WC (just hit a century on his game back).
 
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It doesn’t take much for our fans to get excited. Not long ago, they distributed mithai when Abid scored a century on debut against Sri Lanka and thought a new star was born, but then we saw how he fared against quality attacks.

Even Imran Butt would have looked good against this attack on this pitch. Let’s wait and see how he does against proper bowling before getting carried away.

A player does well, your response ‘lets wait till he faces a better opposition’.

That player does well against a quality team, your response ‘well that was flukey’.

That player then fails in a test match, your response ‘well told ya, there was no talent’.

One doesn't need to be an expert to comment after the event. Comment matters more when you can predict the future. And Pakistan doing well doesn't bode well with your theme.
 
Good luck with that. Class is as good as your performance. If you cannot handle a serious position like number 4 after playing 30 Tests, then you must reconsider as there are guys averaging 50 in those positions in your fc set up. No player is immune to getting dropped or shifted, and if PCB isn’t following this rule then they have no right to be operating on Pakistan tax payer’s money.


Even Asad shafiq avgs 50+ in Fc or list A I don’t rmb, but was he avg anywhere close to that in intl cricket.
 
Needs to fix this issue:

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He needs experience by playing first class Than fixing issues

How did he get an international game by only playing 4 first class games?
 
He needs experience by playing first class Than fixing issues

How did he get an international game by only playing 4 first class games?
He has played a lot of club cricket.Pakistan first class cricket has not produced any outstanding openers for a long time.It is worth giving him a chance.People have started judging him after his second match.Abid Ali improved his game after working with Mohammed Yousaf.Abdullah should also spend some time with Yousaf when he gets back.
 
Bar the odd series, our openers have been awful. Amir Sohail was much hyped but statistically underwhelming, only scored 5 100s and one of those was batting down the order. History is against him and he will need patience from fans and selectors. Lets hope he is the one but we won't know for another year and maybe even longer
 
Needs to fix this issue:

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I think we should wait until he’s been given a decent run before deciding if there is an issue that needs fixing. The gap between bat and pad was not great in this forward defensive, but it could be a momentary lapse in concentration rather than an actual technical problem. To me, it looked like he was playing for the turn that wasn’t there, but his front leg should have moved towards cover, to allow him to make that last second adjustment when the ball didn’t turn. The fact that his front foot went straight back down the pitch created that gap between bat and pad.

Let’s hope the coaches are discussing the above with him and that he learns from this. A promising start to his career no doubt and let’s see how things go.
 
I think we should wait until he’s been given a decent run before deciding if there is an issue that needs fixing. The gap between bat and pad was not great in this forward defensive, but it could be a momentary lapse in concentration rather than an actual technical problem. To me, it looked like he was playing for the turn that wasn’t there, but his front leg should have moved towards cover, to allow him to make that last second adjustment when the ball didn’t turn. The fact that his front foot went straight back down the pitch created that gap between bat and pad.

Let’s hope the coaches are discussing the above with him and that he learns from this. A promising start to his career no doubt and let’s see how things go.

Exactly i actually thought he was playing for the turn
 
Needs to fix this issue:

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I know there is a gap between bat and pad.

But shouldnt he be playing that ball on the back foot?
 
I think he was already out twice to an arm ball in last two innings so he tried coming to front foot
 
Abdullah Shafiq will make his debut today Abdullah Shafiq will be the 238th cricketer from Pakistan to debut in ODI cricket The third ODI match between Pakistan and Netherlands will be played today

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Abdullah Shafique receiving his ODI debut cap from Mohammad Yousuf <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NEDvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NEDvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/99F54tQVuU">pic.twitter.com/99F54tQVuU</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1561269113518964737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Out for 2 on his ODI debut

A bit untidy from Abdullah

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Awful shot and technique. You could drive a bus between bat and pad. Looks worse the more you watch it. Embarrassing.

It was one innings for crying out loud..look at babz and fakhar isnt this embarassing tuk tuk cricket and as always fakhar has his customary life ..oh as i was writing he goes
 
thats pbly the worst shot ive seen from an opening odi bat since hafeez trying to lap sweep a ball 2 foot outside off against munaf patel in 11 wc semifinal.
 
Needs to work on his technique. Not the first time he has been dismissed leaving a big gap bw bat and pad early in his innings
 
Needs to be given a long rope. Our batting in T20s and ODIs is hopelessly weak and although he lacks the shot range atm, he could develop that with experience.
 
Today no one will bump that thread comparing him with Shubhman Gill? LOL
 
Out for 2 on his ODI debut

A bit untidy from Abdullah

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Wow. That looks horrible 😟
 
Abdullah Shafique makes 14 (44b) in Pakistan's first innings of the ongoing Multan test
 
Great reflex and catch by Shafique:

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one of the best short leg catches I've seen from a pak player, wrong footed and still caught it clean with soft hands.
 
Have a feeling he is going to do something special in the second innings.

But we will still lose because of Babar the captain.
 
He is getting out in this fashion many times but why don't our batting coaches rectify it? He leaves the big gate opened between bat and pad and gets bowled/Lbw/inside edge bowled... If I've been seeing it since last year or so, how can't a coach??? Even short ball is troubling him.. He should work on that also... He was a very good backfoot player but somehow gets exposed on short pitch ball..
You can't ignore these weeknesses if you want to become a world class from good player..
 
he looks so much better playing attacking strokes, needs to be pushed out of his comfort zone a bit and be told to bat around 60 in these kinda conditions, there was an extended period earlier in the day where he let leach settle into a rhythm.

and he seems to consistently be dismissed on defensive strokes, either tighten up that defense, or become more proactive so ur not stuck down at one end. still plenty good to work with for shafique, hope he keeps developing and doesn't stagnate.
 
That was a good ball..reverse with pace..First innings leach was spinning in miles...i wouldnt blame his this match but last test second innings when he was getting pepperred by short ball he needs patience
 
Last few inns have been disappointing, hes a key player in batting line up and needs to get back to scoring big to help the team.
 
Last few inns have been disappointing, hes a key player in batting line up and needs to get back to scoring big to help the team.
Average 61 in 9 tests nothing to complaint even got us to a decent start. Its Babar and mainly Rizwan who are going missing at critical stages
 
Average 61 in 9 tests nothing to complaint even got us to a decent start. Its Babar and mainly Rizwan who are going missing at critical stages

Thats true..he made a cebtury last test..nearly a half century here. The prob is we have so much expectation off him now which is a fact
 
An asset to the team but about team he starts playing match winning knocks

In his 9 test career he has already played the greatest 4th innings knock ever by a Pakistani batsman and a match saving 96 vs Aus what are you talking?
 
Seems to have hit a slump. Trying to be overly aggressive also not helping. Made 19 today

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Out to a pull shot

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Bazball and Afridi combined have gone to players' heads - even decent ones such as Abdullah Shafiq who knows how to build long innings.
 
This guy is proper fraud in the name of batsman. If he can't score at home and on a pitch where number 11 is getting 50s where will he score.. Should be booted out. Worse than azhar, asad.
 
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