[VIDEOS] Abid Ali given the all clear to resume international career [Post#144]

[mastimasti]

Huge lessons for PCB these.

How would that help? In football we've seen more coronary issues than we have in cricket, and more so in English football this season than maybe ever in Pak domestic cricket.

The issue with something like this and many of the cardiac conditions which are popping up now is that they can not be predicted and may be exacerbated in young male/females because they are athletes, whereas in the general population, my patient population for example, it may show up in people who are obviously unhealthy or older.

There's not much any sporting org can do unless they institute pretty strict health checks before the start of every game and during games. I do not believe that is feasible.

 

[shah_1]

How would that help? In football we've seen more coronary issues than we have in cricket, and more so in English football this season than maybe ever in Pak domestic cricket.

The issue with something like this and many of the cardiac conditions which are popping up now is that they can not be predicted and may be exacerbated in young male/females because they are athletes, whereas in the general population, my patient population for example, it may show up in people who are obviously unhealthy or older.

There's not much any sporting org can do unless they institute pretty strict health checks before the start of every game and during games. I do not believe that is feasible.

Abid Ali case of artery blockage could have might have been avoided, it would have been diagnosed if there was basic check up after every 6 months. My dad had stents before a potential heart attack because he had a normal check up.

PCB can’t predict anything, can minimise the impact.

 

[LaLoco]

Just saw that, he looks good, no shortness of breath , no obvious weakness. I'm sure he had a stent placement and should be discharge in 2-3 days, ( unless cardiac catheterization shows need for bypass surgery which is unlikely from his looks ) Physically he will be fine soon but will be on blood thinner for six months , so better avoid competitive cricket but will be fine after that .

I know he will be on statin for probably the rest of his life.

Not sure if he will placed on beta blockers, if he is, won't that an impact on his ability to perform 100%?

 

[mazkhan]

He needs to be discarded asap

We have other options In huraira , shan and imam ul haq and shafiq , even fakhar and sahibzada farhan.

So he's not gonna be missed

It's actually an embarrassment his heart condition is caused by being unfit and healthy

Also 33 yr old he is massive age fudger, he's suffering a disease that effects people in their 40s 50s and 60s how can a 33 yr old have a blocked artery

 

[moghul]

I know he will be on statin for probably the rest of his life.

Not sure if he will placed on beta blockers, if he is, won't that an impact on his ability to perform 100%?

Statin yes but no beta blockers . BB has no role in secondary prevention of heart disease, if echo showed normal ejection fraction ( pumping capacity ), which I'm sure will be normal .

 

[Saj]

Key is now they get a decent Dr. who will put things in place for the PCB and also important that have medical staff at every game who can manage if a player has a collapse / cardiac arrest which they don’t have. This could prevent something like what happened to Muamba or Eriksen.

I sincerely hope that what's happened raises awareness about such issues and ensures that PCB has the right people at each match and luck doesn't come into saving someone's life.

 

[moghul]

Based upon checking with specialists:

Abid can consider himself a very lucky guy. Lucky that he got to hospital when he did and should inshallah be able to play cricket again.

PCB don’t have any previous cardiac screening but he would have had to have had an exercises test to pick up what he had and they don’t even do any basic cardiac screening.

Key is now they get a decent Dr. who will put things in place for the PCB and also important that have medical staff at every game who can manage if a player has a collapse / cardiac arrest which they don’t have. This could prevent something like what happened to Muamba or Eriksen.

Just to clarify, his issue is not same as James Taylor whose issue was inherited whereas Abid acquired over time. Again very very fortunate he got to hospital in time.

James Taylor had a condition which is called ARVC whereas Abid Ali has Acute Coronary Syndrome.

Will Abid Ali return to cricket? Answer is InshaAllah but as with all of these things, all depends on his rehab and care.

There is absolutely no need for presence of a medical staff to accompany him at every game . After his rehab , if everything goes well he will be as health as ever was. All he will need a periodic check up including yearly stress test ( some recommend every two years after 5-6 years if no symptoms ) . Technology has advanced over last 2-3 decades and cardiac condition in Abid Ali's case is easy to manage without putting too much restriction on a patient's life style, activity level and job requirement.

Yes James Taylor's heard condition was a different case, he inherited a heart condition which can be managed to a certain extend not at normal level.

 

[moghul]

Hope he is managed by a cardiologist who has some experience is managing sportsmen with heart condition and will not put him on medications , without any justification , which will effect Abid's exercise tolerance, a common mistake done by cardiologist , particularly in Pakistan . Safety comes first but unnecessary restrictions on a young person should not be put in.

I am director of tertiary care Hypertension center here in USA and see all the time young people put on BP and heart medications effecting their exercise capacity, with no justification . Exercise is the main tool for management of hypertension and heart conditions .

 

[Salma_T]

My father passed away in his mid 30s from a heart attack. He smoked but played sport etc and wasn't overweight. So to those saying it only happens to the older population not strictly true.

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan Test opener Abid Ali has been discharged from the hospital, his father confirmed.

The 34-year-old was forced off the field with chest pain during a Quaid-e-Azam Trophy match and was rushed to a hospital.

He underwent two angioplasty procedures after being diagnosed with Acute Coronary Syndrome, a Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) statement said.

According to Abid's father, he is on the road to recovery and is feeling much better than before. "His rehab program is for two weeks and will be checked up in Karachi. The PCB has made arrangements for our accommodation. We are grateful to all the friends who prayed for Abid's recovery," Abid's father said.

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/detail/abid-ali-discharged-from-hospital

 

[MenInG]

During his treatment at the hospital, Abid Ali underwent angioplasty and two stents were placed in his blocked coronary artery.

As per news reports.

 

[Manunited18]

Thought a double vessel blockage meant consideration for (CABG), By pass surgery.

 

[realitygaf]

If Abid ali were smart he would start investing in moving abroad to coach or coach on an institutional level. Attempting to come back to competitive 5 day cricket is risking your life for a sport

 

[moghul]

Thought a double vessel blockage meant consideration for (CABG), By pass surgery.

No, not at all, double vessel blockage is quite common and does not need CABG, unless there is some specific indication for CABG.

 

[moghul]

If Abid ali were smart he would start investing in moving abroad to coach or coach on an institutional level. Attempting to come back to competitive 5 day cricket is risking your life for a sport

What treatment he could get abroad which cannot be done in Pakistan , nothing .

 

[moghul]

There should be increased awareness among the public in Pakistan and also to many in medical community that treatment of heart disease has come a long way. Gone are the days when having a heart condition automatically meant end of world and long term disability. Now a days majority of the people with heart disease spend normal or near normal half life , with excellent long term prognosis .

Most of the people who don;t do well are those who , due to being in denial or due to being afraid of losing their job keep delaying their check up when they have symptoms until it gets really bad.

 

[moghul]

My father passed away in his mid 30s from a heart attack. He smoked but played sport etc and wasn't overweight. So to those saying it only happens to the older population not strictly true.

Very sorry to hear you lost you father at very young age . Smoking and diabetes are the two highest risk factors for heart disease at an early age. But, genetics is also an important factor. You're right heart disease is not the disease of older people only.

Smoking causes so many health problems , some times I wonder why no country has courage to ban it outright , uh---no one wants to lose revenue .

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alhumdulilah, getting back in the momentum as per the doctor's instructions.<br>A big thank you for the immense love and support shown by my family, fiends and followers.<br>Inshallah I will recover soon. <br>Keep praying &#55358;&#56626; <a href="https://t.co/s665PVEmgT">pic.twitter.com/s665PVEmgT</a></p>— Abid Ali (@AbidAli_Real) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbidAli_Real/status/1475329305764786177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote>
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[Salma_T]

Very sorry to hear you lost you father at very young age . Smoking and diabetes are the two highest risk factors for heart disease at an early age. But, genetics is also an important factor. You're right heart disease is not the disease of older people only.

Smoking causes so many health problems , some times I wonder why no country has courage to ban it outright , uh---no one wants to lose revenue .

Thanks for that.

Smoking, sugar and alcohol are the causes of most diseases, then make too much money to be banned or have very strong lobby groups.

NZ is looking into banning cigarettes so let's see.

 

[moghul]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alhumdulilah, getting back in the momentum as per the doctor's instructions.<br>A big thank you for the immense love and support shown by my family, fiends and followers.<br>Inshallah I will recover soon. <br>Keep praying �� <a href="https://t.co/s665PVEmgT">pic.twitter.com/s665PVEmgT</a></p>— Abid Ali (@AbidAli_Real) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbidAli_Real/status/1475329305764786177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote>
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Very happy to see him making steady progress, this picture is very encouraging . There is no reason Abid cannot be in peak fitness in coming months and able to resume his cricket career. Cardiac treatment and rehab has made tremendous progress in recent years and I hope Abid Ali's care and rehab is being managed by a cardiologist with good experience is taking care of young patients and sportsmen. Old fashioned and wrong treatment can ruin his career. We have many examples of Pakistan cricketer's paid the price of mistakes done by their treating doctors. Harris Sohail is the prime example.

 

[DRsohail]

Very happy to see him making steady progress, this picture is very encouraging . There is no reason Abid cannot be in peak fitness in coming months and able to resume his cricket career. Cardiac treatment and rehab has made tremendous progress in recent years and I hope Abid Ali's care and rehab is being managed by a cardiologist with good experience is taking care of young patients and sportsmen. Old fashioned and wrong treatment can ruin his career. We have many examples of Pakistan cricketer's paid the price of mistakes done by their treating doctors. Harris Sohail is the prime example.

There is difference bw operative treatment and conservative treatment, our doctor are damn good in conservative treatment, no worries ,

 

[AutoCrat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alhumdulilah, getting back in the momentum as per the doctor's instructions.<br>A big thank you for the immense love and support shown by my family, fiends and followers.<br>Inshallah I will recover soon. <br>Keep praying �� <a href="https://t.co/s665PVEmgT">pic.twitter.com/s665PVEmgT</a></p>— Abid Ali (@AbidAli_Real) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbidAli_Real/status/1475329305764786177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 27, 2021</a></blockquote>
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This is a dangerous way to arrange treadmills in the gym. You can't have the backend of the treadmill stacked against the wall; an accidental fall can cause serious injury. Hope someone notices and corrects the arrangement before anyone get's injured.

Good to see Abid Ali recovering quickly. All the best to him.

 

[MenInG]

Some more information on Abid via media reports:

He has been discharged from the hospital and since shifted to a hotel where he has begun his post-surgery rehabilitation. He will continue to stay in Karachi, away from his home in Lahore, as he has been advised against travelling as a precautionary measure for two weeks.

 

[MenInG]

Abid Ali will depart for his hometown, Lahore, today (Friday) after successful completion of his post-surgery rehabilitation.

After a two-week long rehabilitation process, the cricketer has now been allowed by the doctors to travel.

 

[James]

Abid Ali will depart for his hometown, Lahore, today (Friday) after successful completion of his post-surgery rehabilitation.

After a two-week long rehabilitation process, the cricketer has now been allowed by the doctors to travel.

Good news… hopefully he can play again in the future.

 

[LordJames]

Based upon checking with specialists:

Abid can consider himself a very lucky guy. Lucky that he got to hospital when he did and should inshallah be able to play cricket again.

PCB don’t have any previous cardiac screening but he would have had to have had an exercises test to pick up what he had and they don’t even do any basic cardiac screening.

Key is now they get a decent Dr. who will put things in place for the PCB and also important that have medical staff at every game who can manage if a player has a collapse / cardiac arrest which they don’t have. This could prevent something like what happened to Muamba or Eriksen.

Just to clarify, his issue is not same as James Taylor whose issue was inherited whereas Abid acquired over time. Again very very fortunate he got to hospital in time.

James Taylor had a condition which is called ARVC whereas Abid Ali has Acute Coronary Syndrome.

Will Abid Ali return to cricket? Answer is InshaAllah but as with all of these things, all depends on his rehab and care.

That depends on whether he had myocardial infarction (MI) or not and if he did to which extent.

I also think that it will depend on how mentally tough he is because will this play on his mind when he steps out for Pakistan.

But wishing him the best of luck.

 

[Saj]

He says he's feeling better but has not been given a start date to resume playing cricket.

Worrying times for him and his career.

 

[Amjid Javed]

He says he's feeling better but has not been given a start date to resume playing cricket.

Worrying times for him and his career.

I get the feeling he wont play international cricket again.

 

[moghul]

He says he's feeling better but has not been given a start date to resume playing cricket.

Worrying times for him and his career.

I think its a bit too early for rt now, most likely he will on dual blood thinner therapy for at least 6 months and can bleed easily with any injury so its a bit risky for him to play competitive cricket for 6 months . After 6 months he will be only on low dose aspirin and statin and will be OK to play cricket at any level in my opinion . He should utilize these six months to improve his fitness. That's my best guess, in a typical scenario without knowing details of his angiogram and echocardiogram report.

 

[arif_2021]

I think its a bit too early for rt now, most likely he will on dual blood thinner therapy for at least 6 months and can bleed easily with any injury so its a bit risky for him to play competitive cricket for 6 months . After 6 months he will be only on low dose aspirin and statin and will be OK to play cricket at any level in my opinion . He should utilize these six months to improve his fitness. That's my best guess, in a typical scenario without knowing details of his angiogram and echocardiogram report.

"bleed easily with any injury"??

Do explain how a cricket ball which at best will cause a blunt injury and localized hematoma can result in massive hemorrhage?

The risk is there of course. The risk is also there riding a bicycle or driving a car.

What is concerning is that as an athlete he had ACS (not sure if he had a blockage, or spasm)...its very uncommon but interesting. If its a thrombus and its already stented, then sure - why not. If its spasm - that may occur again. Sometimes its hard to catch.

Its not an arryythmia which would have ruled him out of any competitive sport.

 

[shamaan]

I think this could be an end to his career.

 

[MenInG]

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Test cricketer Abid Ali this week began his rehabilitation at the National High Performance Centre in Lahore under the supervision of the Pakistan Cricket Board’s medical team.

The 34-year-old was diagnosed with a case of Acute Coronary Syndrome after he complained of chest pain while batting for Central Punjab against Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in the last round of Quaid-e-Azam Trophy. The team doctor had rushed him to a local hospital where he underwent angioplasty.

“As cricket has a second innings, the Almighty has given me a second life,” Abid told PCB Digital as he commenced his rehabilitation at the NHPC. “I cannot thank the Almighty enough that I am sitting here today.”

Recalling the incident, Abid, who holds a distinguishing record of being the only men cricketer to score century on his ODI and Test debuts, said: “I started to feel uneasiness and pain while batting. It worried me. When the pain intensified, I did some running and also consulted my batting partner Azhar Ali.

“Subsequently and with the permission of the umpires, I left the field. But as I reached the rope, I started to vomit and got dizzy. The team physio and doctor Asad [Central Punjab’s team doctor] ran towards me, took off my pads and rushed me to a hospital.”

As he was on his way to the hospital, Abid was unaware of what was unfolding. He had taken the pain that he felt in his chest as a usual muscular one, but it was after the doctors put him under tests that the gravity of the situation unveiled.

“I was not aware that I was having a heart issue,” he said. “The doctors conducted ECG (electrocardiogram), which did not come out fine. They asked me how I was even walking and told me, ‘A normal person’s heart operates at 55 per cent, while mine was operating a 30 per cent. A valve of your heart is blocked and we will have to insert two stents.’

“That left me in state of shock.”

The news of Abid’s sudden illness sent shockwaves in the cricket world.

Abid’s teammates Hasan Ali, the Pakistan fast bower, recalled: “It was a very sad news for me and I was literally shocked.

“I have a very close relationship with Abid bhai. We played first-class together for three, four years from Islamabad region. I was very upset and praying for him.”

Imran Butt, with whom Abid has opened in Test 10 innings and also shared a century stand, said: “It was a shocking news. I share a very special relationship with him for a year and a half now. We did not think it would be such a serious issue. For an athlete to undergo this on field is rare.”

The PCB’s medical team has put together a rehabilitation plan for Abid to help him in his return to the sport for which the right-hander is eager.

“The PCB medical team has prepared a rehab plan for me. God willing, I will try to hold the bat as early as I can and start training.

“Cricket is my life. It is a priceless aspect of my life that I do not want to leave. I am trying to return to cricket as soon as I can … I am hopeful that I will make my comeback [in cricket] in this new life that the Almighty has given me.”

And he has a message for the fans.

“I want to give a message to everyone: Health is wealth. My request to all the fans is to get yourself screened regularly. This incident helped me to realise its important.”

To further improve and enhance the effectiveness of the healthcare at venues, PCB Chairman Ramiz Raja has asked the PCB medical team to set up defibrillators at the Karachi, Lahore and Rawalpindi stadia as well as the National High Performance Centre.

PCB Chairman Ramiz Raja: “Welcome back, Abid Ali. Many congratulations to you [on your recovery] as one’s life changes after such an experience. It is your courage that you still have a smile on your face. Such experiences are a learning curve.

“The lesson for everyone is even if you are an athlete and do regular sports, one is not aware of the wear and tear that goes inside the body. The good thing is Abid Ali was saved. He received great treatment and was taken care of. He is a star for us.

“My message to him is to take things slow, take his time and don’t compromise on his health. My well-wishes are with you.

“This situation can befall on any cricketer. I have asked our doctors to install defibrillators at our stadiums so that they are equipped and ready to use survival kits, should a situation arise.”

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I guess he had a Aortic Stenosis or Mitral Stenosis. May have been due to rheumatic fever he might have had in some distant past that damaged his heart valve over time.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Scary that no proper medical equipment or doctor is available in the grounds if an emergency occurs during a match.

 

[moghul]

" A valve of your heart is blocked and we will have to insert two stents."

I think he wanted to say " a vein ( artery but laypersons commonly say vein ) of heart is blocked ", not valve, no one puts stents in valve and valve disease needs major heart surgery not stents .

So his echo showed his Ejection Fraction EF ( pumping capacity of heart ) was low to 30% ( normal around 55% ) and now improving nicely and already 43%. Looks like his EF was low acutely due to low blood flow to heart muscles and if no significant scarring or permanent damage done to his heart muscles , he can improve his EF to normal level with rehab and exercise and he should be able to resume his cricket career. But, if repeated Echo in couple of months showed no significant improvement of his heart's pumping capacity ( EF ) and significant scarring or permanent damage done to a significant part his heart muscle ( which is less likely in Abid's case ) then he will not be able to play competitive cricket again.

I hope I will see him again playing at professional level cricket. If he is able to play again , he should work on molding his batting style suited to T20 cricket, as T20 cricket would be physically much less demanding but will earn more money for him.

There are many USA or UK trained cardiologists in all big cities in Pakistan but he is being managed by a cardiologist ( Dr Abrar Sohail ) only trained in Pakistan , hope he is equally good.

 

[moghul]

"bleed easily with any injury"??

Do explain how a cricket ball which at best will cause a blunt injury and localized hematoma can result in massive hemorrhage?

The risk is there of course. The risk is also there riding a bicycle or driving a car.

What is concerning is that as an athlete he had ACS (not sure if he had a blockage, or spasm)...its very uncommon but interesting. If its a thrombus and its already stented, then sure - why not. If its spasm - that may occur again. Sometimes its hard to catch.

Its not an arryythmia which would have ruled him out of any competitive sport.

Patient are advised to avoid playing contact sport for that duration of time . If a ball at 140 kph hits his abdomen or hit his head ( even with helmet ) it can cause some serious bleeding . I have seen some patients playing club cricket during that time. The risk is gone after 6 months when he will not be on ( most likely ) two blood thinner medication .

 

[moghul]

I know he will be on statin for probably the rest of his life.

Not sure if he will placed on beta blockers, if he is, won't that an impact on his ability to perform 100%?

I hoped his EF ( pumping capacity of heart ) would be fine and he won;t need any beta blockers but the report showing his EF is currently low and I;m sure he is on BB for the time being . Once he improved his EF to normal , hopefully soon , he will not need beta blockers.

 

[Junaids]

The guy has had a lovely Indian summer. (That's an English expression meaning something exceptional right at the very end of summer, i.e. late in your life or sporting career - it literally means lovely weather right at the end of summer).

The problem is this. He's at an age at which pretty much all non-Asian batsmen (except Ross Taylor) had already retired.

He could take the risk and return to top level cricket. But firstly, that means taking big risks for very little benefit - he's already at retirement age. By definition, atherosclerotic heart disease is a disease of middle and old age.

Secondly, he has already artificially inflated his Test average by cashing in against Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and the West Indies in his last 5 Tests, raising it to a misleading 49.16.

In reality, he averages 23.88 against teams in the Top Five of the world cricket rankings, and 64.33 against teams in the Bottom Four.

So now would be an ideal time to retire, both for his health and so that he can sit on his misleadingly good average!

 

[mazkhan]

A serial age fudger there's no way this guy is 33 yrs old.

He's easily 40 + because he is suffering from a disease that starts causing physical effects during that age group
Arteries that supply the heart, brain, and legs with blood , plaque cholesterol rapidly build up in people between the ages of 40 and 50 years.

To me he looks around 40 and must have had a very rubbish oily diet throughout his 20s 30s or smoking that lead to fatty deposits and narrow arteries now affecting him in his 40s.

 

[moghul]

A serial age fudger there's no way this guy is 33 yrs old.

He's easily 40 + because he is suffering from a disease that starts causing physical effects during that age group
Arteries that supply the heart, brain, and legs with blood , plaque cholesterol rapidly build up in people between the ages of 40 and 50 years.

To me he looks around 40 and must have had a very rubbish oily diet throughout his 20s 30s or smoking that lead to fatty deposits and narrow arteries now affecting him in his 40s.

What you're saying does not make any sense , heart disease is not a disease of middle age people only, very commonly we see pt in their 30s and sometimes earlier have it, particularly in Indian subcontinent . Genetic factors , other than any thing else plays the most important role . I remember a young doctor who was doing residency and was 29 year old died from a sudden heart attack. He was not over wt, was not a smoker, just had bad genes unfortunately.

I won;t blame him for age fudging just because poor guy has a heart condition , you will many cases of CAD in Pakistan at 34.

 

[LaLoco]

I hoped his EF ( pumping capacity of heart ) would be fine and he won;t need any beta blockers but the report showing his EF is currently low and I;m sure he is on BB for the time being . Once he improved his EF to normal , hopefully soon , he will not need beta blockers.

So being on Beta blockers will impact his ability to perform? am I correct?

 

[LaLoco]

A serial age fudger there's no way this guy is 33 yrs old.

He's easily 40 + because he is suffering from a disease that starts causing physical effects during that age group
Arteries that supply the heart, brain, and legs with blood , plaque cholesterol rapidly build up in people between the ages of 40 and 50 years.

To me he looks around 40 and must have had a very rubbish oily diet throughout his 20s 30s or smoking that lead to fatty deposits and narrow arteries now affecting him in his 40s.

I know at least 2 Pakistanis in their late 20's and early 30's who had Acute coronary syndrome.

 

[moghul]

So being on Beta blockers will impact his ability to perform? am I correct?

Yes, you're right.

 

[Monsee]

Some really shocking, biased, and stupid comments in this thread...all we should have done was wish him well and hoping for a quick recovery! Cricket may feel like 'Life' at times to some but it is not, it is just a sport.

I am not so sure he is worried about some fools talking about his age fudging (just random guesses, no proof), him being in extremely bad shape (we know how PCB have lately been coming down on all players), even someone saying he is actually 40+, and our resident shocker (Mr. J.) claiming he inflated his average by recently scoring against BD and WI etc. on their own soil.

Really, then why did Pak lose one matchagainst WI and just about won the second one in time? Also, if it is just such a cakewalk, why several teams have struggled to win a test in BD or better win a test series there in last few years? Abid Ali's 133 and 91 was the main reason Pakistan won that test.

Shame on you all who said any of that...here's to wishing him a speedy recovery and a healthy life whether be in cricket (if he is able to) or outside it!

 

[MenInG]

Lahore, 9 February 2022: A six-day Level-2 Coach Education Course commenced at the Inzamam-ul-Haq High Performance Centre, Multan, on Wednesday with 28 cricketers, including Abid Ali – Test cricketer, featuring on the opening day.

During the course, the participants will undergo training in a wide-ranging area of coaching skills, which include video analysis, coaching methodology, the implications and application on bio-mechanics in cricket, batting, bowling and fielding skills.

Participants (in alphabetical order):

Abdul Wahab, Abid Ali, Ali Abbas, Amjad Iqbal, Badar Ali, Faisal Khan, Gul Mohammad, Jamil Khan, Javaid Iqbal, Kamran Ahmed, Mohammad Naeem, Mohammad Nauman, Mohammad Owais, Mohammad Shahzad, Mohammad Umar, Mohammad Zahid, Mohtisham Ali, Mudassar Raza, Owais Ahmed, Pervaiz Iqbal, Riaz Kail, Shahid Khan, Shahid Yousaf, Shahzad Malik, Sher Hassan, Syed Irfanullah, Syed Umar Javaid and Zahoor Ahmad

https://www.pcb.com.pk/press-releas...ucation-course-commences-at-multan-s-hpc.html

 

[Savak]

Lahore, 9 February 2022: A six-day Level-2 Coach Education Course commenced at the Inzamam-ul-Haq High Performance Centre, Multan, on Wednesday with 28 cricketers, including Abid Ali – Test cricketer, featuring on the opening day.

During the course, the participants will undergo training in a wide-ranging area of coaching skills, which include video analysis, coaching methodology, the implications and application on bio-mechanics in cricket, batting, bowling and fielding skills.

Participants (in alphabetical order):

Abdul Wahab, Abid Ali, Ali Abbas, Amjad Iqbal, Badar Ali, Faisal Khan, Gul Mohammad, Jamil Khan, Javaid Iqbal, Kamran Ahmed, Mohammad Naeem, Mohammad Nauman, Mohammad Owais, Mohammad Shahzad, Mohammad Umar, Mohammad Zahid, Mohtisham Ali, Mudassar Raza, Owais Ahmed, Pervaiz Iqbal, Riaz Kail, Shahid Khan, Shahid Yousaf, Shahzad Malik, Sher Hassan, Syed Irfanullah, Syed Umar Javaid and Zahoor Ahmad

https://www.pcb.com.pk/press-releas...ucation-course-commences-at-multan-s-hpc.html

I think the PCB has had a word with him where they told him that there is a chance he may not be able to play cricket again and that they will do whatever they can to help him transition to life post cricket.

 

[Saj]

The Level 2 coaching certificate is also important for those cricketers who want to play club cricket in places like the UK in future.

The criteria for being allowed to play club cricket in the UK is become stricter and these coaching qualifications are required.

 

[Junaids]

I get a nasty “Ken Barrington” feeling with Abid Ali.

Barrington was an ATG England batsman who had a heart attack in 1968 while still a player.

Twelve years later he was leading (as manager-cum-coach) a very stressful England tour of the West Indies when he dropped dead of a massive heart attack.

People like Christian Eriksen or Abid Ali are in their thirties and their careers are behind them. They don’t need to risk their lives for one last day in the sun.

Abid Ali had a great final few months as a very old Test cricketer, whose contemporaries of the same age are mainly long-retired.

Now it’s time to start a long retirement in good health.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Some really shocking, biased, and stupid comments in this thread...all we should have done was wish him well and hoping for a quick recovery! Cricket may feel like 'Life' at times to some but it is not, it is just a sport.

I am not so sure he is worried about some fools talking about his age fudging (just random guesses, no proof), him being in extremely bad shape (we know how PCB have lately been coming down on all players), even someone saying he is actually 40+, and our resident shocker (Mr. J.) claiming he inflated his average by recently scoring against BD and WI etc. on their own soil.

Really, then why did Pak lose one matchagainst WI and just about won the second one in time? Also, if it is just such a cakewalk, why several teams have struggled to win a test in BD or better win a test series there in last few years? Abid Ali's 133 and 91 was the main reason Pakistan won that test.

Shame on you all who said any of that...here's to wishing him a speedy recovery and a healthy life whether be in cricket (if he is able to) or outside it!

Really well said! Sad stuff from several posters

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another step forward. Alhumdulilah started running with full flow after my heart surgery. Will soon hold the bat and start training. Thank you everyone for all the wishes and prayers.&#55358;&#56626; <a href="https://t.co/mR3W9Gb0Cb">pic.twitter.com/mR3W9Gb0Cb</a></p>— Abid Ali (@AbidAli_Real) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbidAli_Real/status/1495641829051613184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[moghul]

Very happy to see Abid Ali making progress. Hope he will be back to competitive cricket soon and there is no reason he cannot. His comeback will not only be good for him but also it will send a positive message that having a heart disease is not the end of life and can be managed if diagnosed and managed on timely basis . A friend of mine , older than Abid , had heart attack, had to have bypass surgery and ran marathon a year later and still runs 4-5 miles on daily basis and is in great shape.

After psychiatric diseases , heart condition ( to a lesser extend )also people try to hide and reluctant to get help unless its really bad and many time its too late . Increased awareness is needed regarding these conditions because there is nothing shame in having those condition and they can be treated.

 

[MenInG]

Good to see his progress

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[Rana]

We need our test opener who averages 50!

 

[MenInG]

Abid Ali:

Ramadan is a blessing and my training is getting better in this blessed month. With your prayers, this series of batting will come from the net to the field and Pakistan team, God willing - Thank you for your prayers - Pakistan Zindabad

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">رمضان رحمت ہے اور رحمتوں بھرے اس مہینے میں میری ٹریننگ بہتر ہوتی جا رہی ہے۔ آپکی دعاؤں سے یہ بیٹنگ کا یہ سلسلہ نیٹ سے نکل کر میدان اور پاکستان ٹیم تک آئے گا ان شاءاللہ<br>آپکی دعاؤں کا شکریہ<br>پاکستان زندہ باد <a href="https://t.co/VlZxoLoxeT">pic.twitter.com/VlZxoLoxeT</a></p>— Abid Ali (@AbidAli_Real) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbidAli_Real/status/1512099916583211009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Abid Ali:

Ramadan is a blessing and my training is getting better in this blessed month. With your prayers, this series of batting will come from the net to the field and Pakistan team, God willing - Thank you for your prayers - Pakistan Zindabad

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">رمضان رحمت ہے اور رحمتوں بھرے اس مہینے میں میری ٹریننگ بہتر ہوتی جا رہی ہے۔ آپکی دعاؤں سے یہ بیٹنگ کا یہ سلسلہ نیٹ سے نکل کر میدان اور پاکستان ٹیم تک آئے گا ان شاءاللہ<br>آپکی دعاؤں کا شکریہ<br>پاکستان زندہ باد <a href="https://t.co/VlZxoLoxeT">pic.twitter.com/VlZxoLoxeT</a></p>— Abid Ali (@AbidAli_Real) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbidAli_Real/status/1512099916583211009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

These top players are a joy to watch practice. They have so much time on the ball.

He has done enough to make it all the way to the top to Pakistan team. Good on him.

 

[Junaids]

We need our test opener who averages 50!

Too be precise:

Abid Ali averages 64 against Bottom Four Minnows.

He averages 23.88 against Top Five teams.

 

[trickyone]

He should retire and start focusing on coaching and other gigs... His career days are over

 

[MenInG]

Abid Ali speaking to media:

“My life changed in an instant. Then there came a time when I thought maybe now my career is over but I didn’t ponder much on it and remained focused on recovery,"

“I was shocked but everyone encouraged me. Doctors, Pakistan Cricket Board officials and players gave me confidence"

“The doctors have declared me fit to play. I am sure that I will be in action in the next series"

 

[moghul]

Abid Ali speaking to media:

“My life changed in an instant. Then there came a time when I thought maybe now my career is over but I didn’t ponder much on it and remained focused on recovery,"

“I was shocked but everyone encouraged me. Doctors, Pakistan Cricket Board officials and players gave me confidence"

“The doctors have declared me fit to play. I am sure that I will be in action in the next series"

Delighted to see him back to nets , not only good for Abid Ali , he will also send a positive message to general public regarding misconception about heart diseases . For me he is as fit as he ever was.

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Alhumdulilah scored 32-balls 56 on my first match after four months &#55357;&#56908;<br><br>Keep praying &#55358;&#56626; <a href="https://t.co/Q6VFr3fxuj">pic.twitter.com/Q6VFr3fxuj</a></p>— Abid Ali (@AbidAli_Real) <a href="https://twitter.com/AbidAli_Real/status/1516926758121095169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan Test opener Abid Ali returned to competitive cricket after four months and scored fifty.

The 34-year-old Abid played his first match in the ongoing SPL at Faisalabad. The right-handed batter made 32-ball 56 runs with the help of a six and seven fours.

Remember, he suffered pain in his chest during a match of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy in December 2021. He was diagnosed with acute coronary syndrome and a stent was placed in Abid's blocked coronary artery in an angioplasty surgery.

Speaking to this correspondent after the match, Abid Ali said that he did not feel any discomfort while batting. "I was a bit nervous over playing my first match after heart surgery but thanks to Almighty Allah, the time on the field went well."
"This knock has boosted my confidence and I will strive for my form and fitness by participating in more matches. My target is to represent Pakistan once again," he added.

"I am grateful to my family and fans for their courage and support during difficult times," he concluded.

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/n...his-return-to-competitive-cricket-after-four-

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[MenInG]

Karachi, Apr 21 (PTI) His footwork and technique aside, two coronary stents and courage, and runs, accompanied Abid Ali as the Pakistan opener began his comeback trail in competitive cricket four months after suffering a heart attack.

Abid, 34, had undergone an angioplasty a day after he was rushed to a hospital for chest pain while playing a match in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy in Karachi last December.

On Thursday, he appeared in a T20 league match in Faisalabad and scored a half- century.

Speaking to reporters, he expressed his relief at being able to bat in a competitive game after such a long time.

“I am feeling really good but this is just the start of my comeback trail. Need to work very hard to get back into the national team,” Abid said.

A late bloomer, the opener had just returned from a tour of Bangladesh with the Pakistan team when he suffered the heart attack.

“After I was told about the heart condition I just fell into depression and I just kept on thinking whether I will be able to play cricket again,” he recalled the tough times.

Abid said the team of professionals which worked with him and his family had stood by him and backed him to start feeling confident about himself again.

“To me it is just like getting a new life from Allah Talah. I just want to make the most of this opportunity because cricket is my life,” he added.

Abid had had to undergo an extensive rehabilitation programme and wait for months to get clearance from doctors to play again.

Cardiac surgeons, after several tests, diagnosed that Abid was suffering from “acute coronary syndrome”, which, in simple terms, means there was blockage of blood flow in his heart.

He was batting on 61 for Central Punjab against Khyber Pakhtunkhwa at the UBL complex when the team manager rushed him to the hospital after he complained of chest pain and uneasiness in his shoulder.

The Lahore-based opener has scored hundreds on his ODI and Test debuts.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), after the Abid incident, decided to install defibrillator machines at its high-performance centres and main stadiums in Karachi and Lahore

PTI

 

[topspin]

I would encourage him to take part in the Ramadhan cup. The standard of the bowling in this competition sits above the IPL.

 

[MenInG]

(Reuters) – Pakistan opener Abid Ali has been cleared by doctors to return to the field four months after undergoing angioplasty, the 34-year-old said.

Abid was diagnosed with acute coronary syndrome after he complained of chest pain during a domestic first-class match in Pakistan in December.

Acute coronary syndrome is associated with a sudden reduction or blockage of blood flow to the heart.

“I am really excited to be back with the prospect of playing for Pakistan again,” Abid told a media website on Friday. “Doctors cleared me to go back in the field and I can finally return to live a normal life.

“I will be on medicines for some time because of the stents implanted but overall, physically, I am feeling great. I am diving, running, jogging, batting and it’s really great to be normal again.

“There were doubts if I could play again with a heart condition but I didn’t lose hope… It was tough but the recovery has been great with all the extensive rehabilitation.”

Abid has played 16 test matches and six one-day internationals for Pakistan.

“I am not sure what is the status of my national selection right now but I am fully set for my comeback,” he added.

 

[mazkhan]

Do we really need this uncle in the team is he really in his 30s and suffering from heart complications that a 40 50 yr old uncle taxi driver has in the UK . He even looks like an uncle.

With shafique , imam and shan masood I think the test spots are fine with these 3.

Imam fakhar and masood are enough for odi

And t20s we have babar rizwan and fakhar

So I don't see a place for this guy is he really better than imam or shan masood?

 

[MenInG]

Abid Ali speaking to PP:

"Alhamdolillah, I am doing practice and training and trying to improve myself, and waiting for PCB to tell me what to do next but from my side, I have told them that I available for international duties, the rest is upto The Almighty"

"I am now looing forward to a chance to play in league cricket in the UK or even some stint with a County side would be great too"

 

[moghul]

Do we really need this uncle in the team is he really in his 30s and suffering from heart complications that a 40 50 yr old uncle taxi driver has in the UK . He even looks like an uncle.

With shafique , imam and shan masood I think the test spots are fine with these 3.

Imam fakhar and masood are enough for odi

And t20s we have babar rizwan and fakhar

So I don't see a place for this guy is he really better than imam or shan masood?

What an insensitive and idiotic remarks from someone who knows nothing about status of Abid Ali's heart condition . Based upon whatever information I have , Abid should be in very good physical condition and should have no limitation regarding playing cricket. He was top performing test opener for Pakistan just few months ago and there is no reason he cannot put a claim for the spot.

That's the misconception about heart condition in Pakistan leads to many people not seeking medical treatment when they have symptoms of heart condition , worrying that would be end of their career or active life. Reality is totally different , one should not be reluctant to seek medical treatment at the first sign of any heart problem and if caught and treated early, there is always a great chance he/she could get back to peak fitness. I know many people who ran marathon within a year of having triple bypass surgery,

 

[Zaz]

Its really good to know hes been given all the clear and got a good clean bill of health

However he shouldnt be back in the team Not because of his health scare but the fact that he isnt good enough against top intnl bowling attacks as his lopsided intnl stats show

At age 34-35 pakistan really should be looking towards the next generation Not hoping someone hid age comes good

 

[Salma_T]

Do we really need this uncle in the team is he really in his 30s and suffering from heart complications that a 40 50 yr old uncle taxi driver has in the UK . He even looks like an uncle.

With shafique , imam and shan masood I think the test spots are fine with these 3.

Imam fakhar and masood are enough for odi

And t20s we have babar rizwan and fakhar

So I don't see a place for this guy is he really better than imam or shan masood?

What a disrespectful comment! Many people of this thread have mentioned losing loved ones in their 30s!

Rather than wishing him well you cast doubts on his age!

You could have said there are plenty of alternatives and he will need to prove himself etc.

 

[anakwalajinn]

Look up Alexander Dale Oen and educate yourself.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I don't think PCB would(well are they that clueless?) want to take the blame if god forbid something bad happens on the field with him.

I think he should be counselled by professionals as it can be quite serious to accept bad news.

 

[moghul]

I don't think PCB would(well are they that clueless?) want to take the blame if god forbid something bad happens on the field with him.

I think he should be counselled by professionals as it can be quite serious to accept bad news.

Its hard to make you guys understand, it really is. He has been given clearance by professional/specialists and there is nothing unusual about it, it was expected. Abid is fine and can play without any restriction.

 

[Maher96]

My observation is that without Misbah Abid tide might have left.

He has had good performances but recent outings by Imam and Abdullah, as well as Masoods runs in the County could mean he’s 4th choice after being dropped due to illness.

Hard working batsmen but my own 4th choice currently.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Do we really need this uncle in the team is he really in his 30s and suffering from heart complications that a 40 50 yr old uncle taxi driver has in the UK . He even looks like an uncle.

With shafique , imam and shan masood I think the test spots are fine with these 3.

Imam fakhar and masood are enough for odi

And t20s we have babar rizwan and fakhar

So I don't see a place for this guy is he really better than imam or shan masood?

Just an extremely rude, disrespectful and shameful comment.

For Abid to make a comeback, I'd think he would need to show form and fitness in FC first. For now, Imam & Abdullah have both opener spots occupied with Shan being behind them. Would be a good story if he can manage to make a comeback.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Its hard to make you guys understand, it really is. He has been given clearance by professional/specialists and there is nothing unusual about it, it was expected. Abid is fine and can play without any restriction.

Bro you live in USA, you might as well know after coronary bypass, it is common to implant a defibrillator in the body due to increased risk* of arrhythmias(a potentially fatal complication). I work here in health care so I know how competent and up to date our cardiologists are. And I also know how competent PCB's medical panel is.

 

[moghul]

Bro you live in USA, you might as well know after coronary bypass, it is common to implant a defibrillator in the body due to increased risk* of arrhythmias(a potentially fatal complication). I work here in health care so I know how competent and up to date our cardiologists are. And I also know how competent PCB's medical panel is.

For God sake, your comments don't make any sense , do you have any idea who are the people who need a defibrillator implanted in their chest, not the "regular" people with hear condition , not people like Abid, he is fine. Only patients with severely damaged heart muscles and very very weak heart need that . I live in USA but I know there are wonderful specialist including cardiologist in all cities in Pakistan.

Not just Abid, we should pray for the good health of every one.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Do we really need this uncle in the team is he really in his 30s and suffering from heart complications that a 40 50 yr old uncle taxi driver has in the UK . He even looks like an uncle.

With shafique , imam and shan masood I think the test spots are fine with these 3.

Imam fakhar and masood are enough for odi

And t20s we have babar rizwan and fakhar

So I don't see a place for this guy is he really better than imam or shan masood?

Heart Complications can happen at any age. I don't think he is older than his stated age. However it is true his spot has been taken and he might not be able to make a comeback.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

For God sake, your comments don't make any sense , do you have any idea who are the people who need a defibrillator implanted in their chest, not the "regular" people with hear condition , not people like Abid, he is fine. Only patients with severely damaged heart muscles and very very weak heart need that . I live in USA but I know there are wonderful specialist including cardiologist in all cities in Pakistan.

Not just Abid, we should pray for the good health of every one.

No need to get hyper aggressive over something you are not in charge of. I don't like to argue with people I have nothing to do with.

Regarding the topic, I don't have to explain pathophysiology of human heart to you. Yes I hope and pray Abid lives a healthy life and all other people stricken with IHD.

 

[MenInG]

Good to see that Abid Ali is part of the NHPC camp but I just hope that medical staff have properly assessed his situation before he is put through the hard yards in the camp during hot conditions.

 

[MenInG]

Mohammad Yousuf on Abid Ali:

"I worked a lot with Abid Ali before his health issues, but I havent had a chance to work with him after that as I have been busy but from what I have seen of him in the nets recently, I feel he will be back to his former self"