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I will have to dig out the analysis. it wasnt as straightforward as you have made it out.
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[VIDEOS] "Asian cricketers do get judged quicker than others and people do write you off quicker" : Moeen Ali
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I will have to dig out the analysis. it wasnt as straightforward as you have made it out.
How is it okay for Bairstow, Butler etc to take a break through the tour but not Moeen? Why aren’t you criticising them for being mentally weak too.
Moeen has done absolutely nothing wrong here and just followed through with what was agreed beforehand. Bringing up what the Pakistani team went through isn’t really relevant considering that Pakistan cricket doesn’t give a rats as$ about player mental health.
It’s pretty evident on here that jealous Indians and Pakistanis along with some self hating Brit Pakistani posters just love to hate on Moeen.
I look forward to seeing it.
Agreed, if he decided he would prefer to go home now and miss the next test rather than the T20 series then that's his decision to make, I haven't suggested otherwise.
He's been a passenger in the limited overs teams/squads for far too long. He isn't one of the top 6-7 batsmen in the country and isn't close to being the best spinner in the country, we really should be looking elsewhere by now. Unfortunately I assume Dawson is still injured but I'm amazed we don't have an extra spinner in the squad to give a go, especially with it being quite a condensed 5 match series and Parkinson and Crane already out there providing backup to the test squad.
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I'm not interested in England's schedule or their players schedule. All players need to take precautions if they want to play cricket. Why are you so bothered if an England player needs to stay away for a bit to play cricket?
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There is a difference between resting players who have actually played some cricket i.e. Buttler and players going off after playing one test. Also, you also cannot compare the importance of Moeen in India to the importance of Buttler in India. In many ways, Foakes is more important because of his superior wicket-keeping ability.
Bairstow hasn't gone anywhere, he is in the squad.
You need to come to terms with the fact that Moeen simply doesn't give two hoots about his test career. It doesn't matter how good you are if you are not willing to make the effort. And its not just that he's mentally weak, Moeen's attitude aswell, since the 2017 Ashes has been quite poor.
I don't see him having much of a test career (if at all) from here on out. And he has only himself to blame for that.
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Then why has silverwood come out to apologise to Moeen publicly, obviously he is valued.
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Where has Moeen moaned or played religious politics? His conduct has always been exemplary He was asked the question re this topic and answered it Theres truth in it
And for your info all the players are test players Only moeen doesnt have a test contract
If eng don’t want him can he use his daddy’s passport & play for pak?
Better than any Pak spinner... in fact better than any Pak batsman. Obviously would b the best fielder... and captain...
And at 33, younger than most Pak debutants...
Hands down better than shadab, nawaz, Hafeez, imad, Yasir shah, ifty, gohar, etc... also bowls quicker than faheem...
Better than any Pak spinner... in fact better than any Pak batsman. Obviously would b the best fielder... and captain...
And at 33, younger than most Pak debutants...
Hands down better than shadab, nawaz, Hafeez, imad, Yasir shah, ifty, gohar, etc... also bowls quicker than faheem...
Then why comment if you are not bothered?
I don’t care about the players staying away, I care about the double standards and inherent racism in English cricket. If that’s an issue you don’t feel strongly about then that’s fine.
In normal scenario you may almost be correct. But considering the covid restrictions and life in the bubble you are either ignorant or deliberately biased if you think players don’t need rest from the bubble after months, even if they haven’t played.
In fact I would go as far as to say, it’s harder for those not playing regular matches but being confined to the bubble restrictions.
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In normal scenario you may almost be correct. But considering this is not another meaningless test series and rather England's only chance to make the World Test Championship final --not to mention, a culmination of the cricket they have been playing for two years-- therefore, needless to say, all hands were required on deck because of the extreme circumstances.
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Johnny Bairstow wilfully missed the first half of this series to avoid "mental fatigue". Jos Butter played just one test and missed the rest of the series for the same reason. The fact is Bairstow, Buttler and Moeen are all crucial LOI players in the England line up and all are IPL players as well. So them remaining for the entirety of the test series plus the LOI leg plus the IPL would mean they would have to stay 5 months in the bubble.
The ECB has had a drastic change in approach to the IPL from the days of KP being a rebel player playing in the IPL. Current ECB leadership and selectors like Ed Smith believe the IPL experience is very important for England's chances in the upcoming WT20 in India. Perhaps the ECB realised they were never going to win 3 tests in India anyway (for them to make the final of the WTC) and took the pragmatic approach instead. Staying for the entirety of the test series would mean they would have to stay 5 months in the bubble without seeing their family.
No player would make that sacrifice except test stalwarts like Smith, Kohli, Root, Williamson, Cummins etc., as every test series plays a great role in defining their legacy in test cricket history at the end of their careers. But let's be honest, none of Bairstow, Moeen or Buttler would have a test legacy anything remotely similar to the players I mentioned before. You're being unnecessarily harsh on Moeen when he has done nothing different to Buttler and Bairstow.
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I vaguely remember the discussion. I seem to remember that we disagreed. But to be honest, I hold my hands up. I was wrong. I’ve come around to your point of view on this one and I’ve realised that you were / are right about it.
The only thing I’d say is that whilst other batters could have been stood aside at time for Owais, Collingwood is probably not the best person to highlight as someone who could have made way. Colly was a world-class outfielder and catcher as well as a useful 5th seamer, and he was a genuinely gritty batter averaging >40 in Tests. He scored his runs against some good bowlers as well. And he had leadership ability: he was the first England captain to win a World Cup (in T20s). As an overall package, Colly brought a huge amount to the table.
No doubt that Owais was a gifted guy, and he offered more than enough to England to be given more chances.
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If I remember vaguely, we did actually discuss this point and I think my analysis centred around the initial "giving benefits of doubt part".I believe my contention was that owais kept getting dropped after a failure while collingwood was persisited with even though his numbers initially werent that good..(something like that) ..I will try and sift through the billions of posts we've done since then to see if i can find it..may be interesting to re-read the whole exchange and see if it still stand up to scrutiny lol.
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PUNE, India (Reuters) - Moeen Ali warming the bench during the Twenty20 series against India was “circumstantial” and the all-rounder remains a vital white-ball player for the team, captain Eoin Morgan said on Monday.
Moeen tested positive for COVID-19 on arrival in Sri Lanka in January. The 33-year-old played one test in India, before flying home for a pre-arranged rest.
On his return, Moeen watched from the sidelines as India beat England 3-2 in the five-match Twenty20 series.
Morgan hinted Moeen would get his chance in the three-match ODI series beginning on Tuesday when asked if he still regarded him as a vital member of the side.
“Yes, I do,” Morgan told a video conference.
“Anybody who’s an all-rounder within the side and makes our squad is extremely valuable to our side.
“I know he’s not played but that’s been circumstantial. The pitches that we’ve played on just have not turned, and that obviously limits the amount of a finger-spinner’s contribution.”
Morgan said Moeen, known for his nagging off-spin and fluent batting, was considered for each of the five games though Adil Rashid played as the lone spinner.
The England captain said Moeen had returned rejuvenated and coped well with his T20 exclusion.
“He certainly takes them all in his stride. And I think the little period that Mo spent at home before this series has done a world of good.”
England have rested test captain Joe Root from the ODI series after their 3-1 series defeat this month.
Morgan said the team would miss Root but stressed they were “spoilt for choice” with batsmen who could fill the void at number three.
“Obviously, losing Joe Root is a massive hole, for a guy who scores at a run-a-ball and averages fifty.
“He’s an exceptional player and has been for a long time. So we’ll miss him. But it’s just going to be a matter of somebody slotting in at three and going about their own business.”
Moeen tested positive for COVID-19 on arrival in Sri Lanka in January. The 33-year-old played one test in India, before flying home for a pre-arranged rest.
On his return, Moeen watched from the sidelines as India beat England 3-2 in the five-match Twenty20 series.
Morgan hinted Moeen would get his chance in the three-match ODI series beginning on Tuesday when asked if he still regarded him as a vital member of the side.
“Yes, I do,” Morgan told a video conference.
“Anybody who’s an all-rounder within the side and makes our squad is extremely valuable to our side.
“I know he’s not played but that’s been circumstantial. The pitches that we’ve played on just have not turned, and that obviously limits the amount of a finger-spinner’s contribution.”
Morgan said Moeen, known for his nagging off-spin and fluent batting, was considered for each of the five games though Adil Rashid played as the lone spinner.
The England captain said Moeen had returned rejuvenated and coped well with his T20 exclusion.
“He certainly takes them all in his stride. And I think the little period that Mo spent at home before this series has done a world of good.”
England have rested test captain Joe Root from the ODI series after their 3-1 series defeat this month.
Morgan said the team would miss Root but stressed they were “spoilt for choice” with batsmen who could fill the void at number three.
“Obviously, losing Joe Root is a massive hole, for a guy who scores at a run-a-ball and averages fifty.
“He’s an exceptional player and has been for a long time. So we’ll miss him. But it’s just going to be a matter of somebody slotting in at three and going about their own business.”
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England are quite generous to still pick Moeen the Mediocre in ODIs considering how he nearly killed their chances of winning the World Cup.
Their fortunes only changed when he was kicked out of the playing XI.
Their fortunes only changed when he was kicked out of the playing XI.
Liam Dawson picked an awful winter to get injured for.
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Could Moeen Ali be England's hero today?
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According to [MENTION=113824]Nikhil_cric[/MENTION], Moen averages 17 in his last 45 games. How is that getting treated differently lol? If that was another player, Moen defenders would call him rubbish and demand he is dropped . Yet you get people like [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] defending Moen comments like this. Some posters are hypocrites.
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Wonder who he will blame for his dismissal today.
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Forget averaging 17 with the bat in his last 45 games - he is lucky to still get picked in ODIs after almost single-handedly destroying England’s World Cup hopes two years ago.
There is no doubt that England’s dream would have been shattered had they not booted him out of the playing XI.
He deserves no respect and no recognition; he gets way too much attention for a deeply mediocre cricketer.
A middling talent with zero guts.
There is no doubt that England’s dream would have been shattered had they not booted him out of the playing XI.
He deserves no respect and no recognition; he gets way too much attention for a deeply mediocre cricketer.
A middling talent with zero guts.
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No chance.
There are certain batsmen you can bet your bottom dollar will not be there till the end - particularly when the chips are down. Some renowned ones in that list - and Moeen.
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According to Moen and his fans he gets treated differently lol. Look how much backing he is getting. Already seen some Sam Curran needs to be dropped and he hasn't even played 45 ODIs. But precious Moen needs more games despite an average of 17 for 45 games.
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He is always crying and playing victim. Wait till he gets dropped and then gives another interview to a British tabloid about how hard it is for Asian cricketers in England.
Adil Rashid is a true role-model for Asian cricketers. No victim mentality, no crying about discrimination - he just gets on with and let’s his performances do the talking.
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Very well said. I don't know if you were following the match thread but some of our fans were saying Rashid is not that good. Probably because he isn't as vocal as Moen about treatment of Asian cricketers.
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Rashid is a top ODI bowler who has played a massive role in England’s numerous ODI wins over India and Australia since the 2015 World Cup.
He is a vital cog of England’s bowling attack and has performed against the top sides.
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End of a good series for Ali in his weakest format, particularly with the ball. The brainless critics who expect an ODI #7 to average 40 with the bat need to get real. He's a match-winner who earned big money at the IPL, will captain a team in The Hundred and has all but booked his ticket to the WT20 in India.
Hopefully, he can get to 200 test wickets for England, to go with his five hundreds and win them a few more games at the upcoming world cups. That would cap off a great career.
Hopefully, he can get to 200 test wickets for England, to go with his five hundreds and win them a few more games at the upcoming world cups. That would cap off a great career.
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It would be great to see Ali, Rashid and Mahmood all playing in the same team at the biggest stage. All supremely talented cricketers and role-models for British Muslims.
Well said. All 3 are also fantastic ambassadors and cricketing role-models for young Asians in the UK.
He can be a role model, but he's nowhere near good enough to justify a space in the limited overs teams. He averages 94 with the ball and 19 with the bat in the last 2 years in ODIs.
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I couldn't care less about his background or origins or his beard. It's laughable that some are justifying his performances because of his bowling. But everyone knows even these guys that he's mainly in the side for his batting and to assist with the bowling.
But he's a choker, when England need him to make a significant contribution, he comes and in and does his usual pretty 20s and 30s then gets out. But no, we're all haters and raging critics. Moeen getting the boot from the side was a good decision.
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Lol you really do need to look beyond his beard.
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I like Moeen Ali the person but he has to be the worst batsmen I've seen play 60+ test matches. An sub-30 average is just not acceptable.
Just because I like him doesn't mean I'm going to let his beard cloud my judgement.
Just because I like him doesn't mean I'm going to let his beard cloud my judgement.
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Mo can be handy at times with the ball and bat, but he just isn't consistent enough. I don't know if that is because he has been messed around a bit throughout his career or not.
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His bowling is a bonus, he isn’t there to bowl 10 overs. If Stokes is on form them 2 usually share the 10 overs.
England’s World Cup campaign changed when they dropped him. That tells you everything. If you don’t rate him as a cricketer, your a hater or jealous even though your talking about his ability not his personal life.
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I've always thought he is a very talented cricketer, but there are some guys who are clearly talented but give the low energy vibe and frustrate their fans with soft dismissals. Moeen, Shaun Marsh and even KL Rahul to an extent belong to this category.
And there are guys who just seem to have a winning mentality and seem like players who just hate losing. Stokes, Pant and even Sam Curran looks like such a player.
And there are guys who just seem to have a winning mentality and seem like players who just hate losing. Stokes, Pant and even Sam Curran looks like such a player.
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Moeen had his chances but blew it, he can't go crying if he gets the boot.
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Those people should pick another career. Talent is useless if you have no drive to be the best. Moeen resorted to the “woe is me” mentality about how people are judging him this and that hogwash. Should’ve focused on his cricket. Is still a bits and pieces player.
But it’s heartening to see 99% of Pakistanis on this forum don’t let his appearance and heritage cloud their judgement of him as a player.
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Former Indian pacer Ashish Nehra sees shades of former Pakistani opener Saeed Anwar in England all-rounder Moeen Ali saying the English cricketer was a very relaxed person.
Nehra praised Moeen for his 36-ball 58-run knock for Chennai Super Kings against Mumbai Indians during the ongoing Indian Premier League. The left-hander's innings included five fours and five sixes.
Nehra believes that Moeen's batting was similar to Anwar, while saying that Chennai's skipper MS Dhoni is utilising him really well.
"Brother Moeen Ali is a very chilled out and relaxed person.
I see shades of Saeed Anwar in his batting. He never seems under pressure. He is a utility player and MS Dhoni is utilising him really well"
Nehra praised Moeen for his 36-ball 58-run knock for Chennai Super Kings against Mumbai Indians during the ongoing Indian Premier League. The left-hander's innings included five fours and five sixes.
Nehra believes that Moeen's batting was similar to Anwar, while saying that Chennai's skipper MS Dhoni is utilising him really well.
"Brother Moeen Ali is a very chilled out and relaxed person.
I see shades of Saeed Anwar in his batting. He never seems under pressure. He is a utility player and MS Dhoni is utilising him really well"
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Oh no, Moeen Ali is being successful at the world's most difficult league to ever ever ever being created - toying with bowlers.
Must be something wrong with this year's edition or they are going easy on him. Cannot be a third explanation.
Must be something wrong with this year's edition or they are going easy on him. Cannot be a third explanation.
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Weird post. Moeen has always been a talented batsman.
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Well according to some hes a soft poor batsmen
Its strange then hes being so successful in the IPL, could the quality of the league be so poor that someone like moeen looks a million dollars out there
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He has been typecasted as a lower order hitter by England because of his role as a spinner in the team when he can bat with a lot more freedom up the order. He has also been guilty of looking a million bucks at the crease and then suddenly throwing it away with a soft dismissal very often in his career.
I think T20 is his best format because he is the prime example of an anti stat padder, bats every ball with intent and doesn't believe in playing a slow low risk accumulating innings. At the same time, because of the amount of risks he takes, he doesn't kick on to get a big score often, but the short nature of T20 format allows such short but high impact knocks to have great value whereas you need more patient risk free knocks in test cricket. He brings full value as an all rounder in T20 cricket.
Read the full interview, then you might be able to comprehend what he's saying.
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For the record, I do think he doesn't finish games or come through under pressure.
But a team has a mix of all kind - so he fits differently to say a proper finisher. So up the order is more his position.
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Moeen Ali out for 52 off 30 for Worcestershire vs Northants in T20 blast.
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Moeen Ali is talented but an underachiever.
He doesn't have mentality to succed at highest level. In IPL, the only two teams for which he can succeed is CSK and MI.
He doesn't have mentality to succed at highest level. In IPL, the only two teams for which he can succeed is CSK and MI.
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He didn't done bad for RCB TBH..
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Moeen fails again - but what a catch.
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Average player.
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A mental midget who is always making excuses and playing victim.
England need to move on from him for good. He is just not good enough.
A match-loser through and through. He is lucky to be still playing for England after he almost singlehandedly sabotaged England’s World Cup campaign and had to be thrown out of the team for England to get their campaign back on track.
England need to move on from him for good. He is just not good enough.
A match-loser through and through. He is lucky to be still playing for England after he almost singlehandedly sabotaged England’s World Cup campaign and had to be thrown out of the team for England to get their campaign back on track.
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I think he'll play the WC, because it's in the UAE, and you do need two spinners, also because England is in the group (AUS, SA, WI) where their batting is not so strong against spin
I think this will be the team
J Roy
J Buttler +
J Bairstow
E Morgan *
B Stokes
L Livingstone
S Curran/ L Gregory
M Ali
D Willey
C Jordan
A Rashid
I think this will be the team
J Roy
J Buttler +
J Bairstow
E Morgan *
B Stokes
L Livingstone
S Curran/ L Gregory
M Ali
D Willey
C Jordan
A Rashid
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Decent innings by Moeen but should have gone on to get 50+
Moeen Ali c Babar Azam b Mohammad Hasnain 36(16) -
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He needs to be promoted up the order like Dhoni did with him in CSK.
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On form Moeen - 2 important wickets.
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Good day for Ali today.. good cameo plus 2 wickets in an over.. bad day for some guys here..
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Moeen speaking after winning the MoM
“[This will give me confidence] as getting the opportunity up the order is fantastic. I am happy to float around but batting in the powerplay is nice as you can get going and play your shots. With the ball, I just really tried to spin as I thought [Rashid and Parkinson] bowled fantastically as well. Parky, in particular, was very accurate and stuck to his skills.”
“[This will give me confidence] as getting the opportunity up the order is fantastic. I am happy to float around but batting in the powerplay is nice as you can get going and play your shots. With the ball, I just really tried to spin as I thought [Rashid and Parkinson] bowled fantastically as well. Parky, in particular, was very accurate and stuck to his skills.”
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Amazing from Moeen - not conceded a boundary yet - Pakistan 116/4
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Moeen Ali electric in The Hundred - 49 off 26!
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Birmingham Phoenix captain Moeen Ali smashed three fours and four sixes in his 49 off 26 balls - with 22 of those runs coming in the space of four devastating deliveries - as they chased down 173 to beat Oval Invincibles; Moeen was earlier dropped twice, on 3 and 20
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Birmingham Phoenix captain Moeen Ali smashed three fours and four sixes in his 49 off 26 balls - with 22 of those runs coming in the space of four devastating deliveries - as they chased down 173 to beat Oval Invincibles; Moeen was earlier dropped twice, on 3 and 20
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He was in sublime touch today against the Welsh Fire, scored 59 off 28 balls. He's clearly one of the in-form English players in the tournament.
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Moeen Ali has been included in the squad for the 2nd Test against India.
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They have no choice!
I think Bairstow should don the gloves and Butler should be replaced by Moeen
I think Bairstow should don the gloves and Butler should be replaced by Moeen
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Moeen getting a test recall on the basis of performances in a format that isn't even proper T20 is the most Pakistani thing imaginable.
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They are bringing him back due to the utility, with no Stokes or Woakes he could add some depth. Very few can accept it but he is the most successful spinner in the country and England should be utilising him much better, each time he is picked it’s always as a plan B or C and he rarely gets that long rope in recent times so has to go all out from game one, but in his last Test I thought he did well compared to the others considering the little red ball he has played. There is no comparison with Pak as they pick guys with little to no FC experience to begin with !
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Regardless of his flaws, I don’t think any one would drop Butler ! he can turn a game on its head with the bat, I can see one making an argument for him to give the gloves to someone else but he needs to be in the XI, I will agree he needs to be so much more responsible but he is always one good knock away from gaining more confidence in this series
He averages 33 in tests that is below average
