Bilal Ahmad15
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Embarrassing stuff on so many levels from Sunil Gavaskar. What a stupidly he is..
Who cares your book man...Show some respect
Discussing stats vs India to bring down someone who passed away and why even is the host asking questions like this instead of celebrating him. Shocking stuff.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shane Warne's passing away is a big shock....He mastered the art which is very difficult to master which is leg spin: Sunil Gavaskar. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewsToday?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NewsToday</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIPShaneWarne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RIPShaneWarne</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/sardesairajdeep?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@sardesairajdeep</a> <a href="https://t.co/6KqSHf6Tes">pic.twitter.com/6KqSHf6Tes</a></p>— IndiaToday (@IndiaToday) <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday/status/1499772081793568773?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I am assuming that Australia has better medical facilities and hospitals than Thailand, why would he then go to Thailand for any alleged medical procedure?
Reports are saying he went to Thailand for a holiday as he was taking a break from work.
Shane was a heavy drinker and smoker as well. Recently he had been experiencing chest pains and problems with his asthma. On top of that he seemed obsessed with his appearance always doing something to achieve that perfect look. He had also been on a liquid diet only consuming beverages and water for a good many weeks to become slimmer. Sadly all these things combined his body just seemed to give up. We all want to appear good but not at the expense of taking such high risks like living on water or fruit drinks for weeks when we have other health problems too.
I think we need to be extremely careful about Warne's cause of death. There are multiple mentions of a "heart attack" in this thread without any supporting evidence.
It's generally the case when a celebrity dies suddenly of natural causes that the initially claimed cause of death is not based upon actual medical assessment but the claims of family, friends or managers.
(The most notorious example was the tainted American sprinter Florence Griffith-Joyner. Her late career speed increases and physical changes were such that she was widely suspected of steroid abuse, and when she died aged 38 her management put out the absurd - yet widely accepted - claim that she had died of a "heart seizure", a fictional condition. When her final cause of death was released it had somehow become an epileptic seizure even though she had no history of treatment for epilepsy.)
Warne has almost certainly died of natural causes. But every other doctor I have spoken too thinks the same as me - sudden death after a long-haul flight with blood splattered around the bed is not suggestive of a heart attack but rather a pulmonary embolism.
We will know soon enough. But either speculation is off limits - including unfounded claims of a heart attack - or it is acceptable. Either way, the claims of a heart attack should not be carried unquestioned, because neither a heart attack nor resuscitation attempts explain the blood splatter which the Thai Police has already confirmed.
Have you read the articles posted in this thread?
He actually wasn't a heavy drinker. He was a 35 year smoker of 20 cigarettes per day and he had a terrible diet, but he wasn't obese. And he didn't use cocaine, unlike many Australian football and cricket stars.
As you have touched on, Warne always took shortcuts to try to improve his appearance. Crash diets. Facelifts. Hair transplants. He claimed that when he tested positive for a notorious masking agent for anabolic steroids when he had a torn shoulder muscle just before the 2003 World Cup that he hadn't taken it to conceal steroid repair of his injury but rather as a diet pill to make himself look thinner.
Your body will age quicker if you smoke for 35 years and eat rubbish. And he seems to have been trying the sort of crash diet that Gazza and Maradona used to use, which a 50+ year old body simply may not be able to handle.
Embarrassing stuff on so many levels from Sunil Gavaskar. What a stupidly he is..
Who cares your book man...Show some respect
Discussing stats vs India to bring down someone who passed away and why even is the host asking questions like this instead of celebrating him. Shocking stuff.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shane Warne's passing away is a big shock....He mastered the art which is very difficult to master which is leg spin: Sunil Gavaskar. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewsToday?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NewsToday</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIPShaneWarne?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RIPShaneWarne</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/sardesairajdeep?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@sardesairajdeep</a> <a href="https://t.co/6KqSHf6Tes">pic.twitter.com/6KqSHf6Tes</a></p>— IndiaToday (@IndiaToday) <a href="https://twitter.com/IndiaToday/status/1499772081793568773?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I have no problem if Gavaskar thinks Murali or whoever is a better spinner, but the timing of his comments is a disgrace: around 20-30 minutes after the news first broke.
Gavaskar is always talking crap but the host deserves some criticism as well.
It was not the right time to discuss/ask if Warne is the greatest spinner of all time or not.
My dad and members of his generation are massive fans of Gavaskar. They seem to think he is a gentleman and praise him as being a bit of a statesmen.
On the contrary I have found him to always be boorish, aloof and biased.
Perhaps he hasn't aged well.
Gavaskar's apology
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Awww .. Ponting breaks down in tears for his mate.
Good on him, but doesn’t seem sincere enough.
It was done to get clicks....we know how the media works!Gavaskar is always talking crap but the host deserves some criticism as well.
It was not the right time to discuss/ask if Warne is the greatest spinner of all time or not.
He actually wasn't a heavy drinker. He was a 35 year smoker of 20 cigarettes per day and he had a terrible diet, but he wasn't obese. And he didn't use cocaine, unlike many Australian football and cricket stars.
As you have touched on, Warne always took shortcuts to try to improve his appearance. Crash diets. Facelifts. Hair transplants. He claimed that when he tested positive for a notorious masking agent for anabolic steroids when he had a torn shoulder muscle just before the 2003 World Cup that he hadn't taken it to conceal steroid repair of his injury but rather as a diet pill to make himself look thinner.
Your body will age quicker if you smoke for 35 years and eat rubbish. And he seems to have been trying the sort of crash diet that Gazza and Maradona used to use, which a 50+ year old body simply may not be able to handle.
I hav always found Gavaskar as a commentator completely abhorring and have mentioned it a few times on this forum. He was a great batsman but a very shallow and small human being whose life revolves around stats. I am sure he would have a stat of how many times he went to washroom in Mohali on day 1 because that's all that matters to him. I hav no clue what people find good about his commentary but i watch it with my tv mute.
Responding to Post198 I don't understand why Sunny bhai should have to apologize for saying Murali was better then Shane when many like me agree with him. It is stupid to expect everyone to say Shane was the best spinner ever just because he has passed away.
The issue is not the opinion, but the timing.
Sunny was asked who he thought was better between Shane and Murali. He answered honestly.
Sunny was asked who he thought was better between Shane and Murali. He answered honestly.
Sunny was asked who he thought was better between Shane and Murali. He answered honestly.
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Sunny did not say anything to undermine or respective Warny. Even to point out his poor record against India was in no mean humiliating at all. It could be that Bishen Bedi, Chandrasekar and co were better then Warny. All this criticism of Sunny over an honest opinion is uncalled for. Don't ask for his opinion if you only want Warny to be praised.
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Sunny did not say anything to undermine or respective Warny. Even to point out his poor record against India was in no mean humiliating at all. It could be that Bishen Bedi, Chandrasekar and co were better then Warny. All this criticism of Sunny over an honest opinion is uncalled for. Don't ask for his opinion if you only want Warny to be praised.
Weather murli was better than Warne or not is debatable. (For me warne was better), do you really think Indian spinners were better than Warne? For everything warne did for the sport, his input and much more. I find it hilarious that you can consider any Indian spinner even remotely close to warnes ability.
Warny was the second best ever. What I am saying is if Sunny considers Murali or any Indian spinner to be better then Warny then that is his opinion. Sunny was a world class opener who opinion deserves to be respected. What exactly did Warny do for Cricket that other greats didn't??
I dont think you understand at all, Warne had just died Good or bad you respect someone who has just died n talk of them in glowing terms
What you dont do is discuss how poor he was against india which spinners are better how he took only one fiver when the guy had just died
Nobody else has talked like this This alone should tell you the timings totally wrong by gavasker
The debate of how good or poor he was sholdve been left for another day down the line
Gavasker was totally off the mark here so soon after shanes death
Btw Warne did a lot more for spin and particularly legspin than anybody in history Hes a legend of the game His stats only tell part of the story The impact he has had his much wider than the wkts he took
When is the actual funeral?
Please note, there is still no official cause of death for Shane Warne.
The Thai Police have cited “natural causes” and his friends immediately claimed a “heart attack” BEFORE his post-mortem.
But no information about the findings of his post-mortem or formal cause of death has been released into the public domain.
Pretty irrelevant for the general public at this point.
It’s extremely unusual that the cause of death remains a secret.
You can keep it confidential in Australia, but it’s almost unheard of.