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Condescending? Stop being so touchy and learn to be corrected when you are wrong. I have actually stayed away from commenting on a lot of your posts because a lot of people give you a hard time and I don’t want to add to it.
Your stats are without any context. It is clutching at straws to bring up the average of 60 when the majority of his runs came in a dead match on a dead pitch. What about his failures in the 4th innings, one of which led to defeat and the other required one of the great escapes in Pakistan history to save?
2 failures? When? You’re talking about the last series. In every series he has multiple failures! How is that sustainable? Your reasons for persisting with him are delusional. Even if Azhar hired a marketing team they wouldn’t come up with such delusional bending of the truth.
You talked in a previous post about his saving a match in England. The match was only saved by rain, not his innings. If the rain stayed away we would have lost.
if pakistan lose this match, think of azhar ali not being able to score 10 runs...
To be honest wasn’t the cited Azhar Ali century against England scored in the same match where Zak Crawley got a 250 and Jos Buttler got a 150, two guys who are talented but have sometimes struggled with the conditions and required levels of concentration in Test cricket.
I can’t remember the match particularly well but for Zak and Jos to be plundering runs the pitch can’t have been that tricky.
Now we have one leeches like Saqlain, Azhar, Hasan will milk it for few years.
Redwood Its not a handful of failures Azhars been avge to poor for 4 years now
Yes hes got the odd century here and there but its sandwiched between multiple low scores
You cant hide the fact hes avging 35 over the last 4 years and how hes looking more and more like someone whos well past it
Also my opinion but no player os owed anything You perform you stay in the team Theres no room for sentiment when matches need winning Its not fair for players on sidelines that someone gets freebie games for personal milestones
Ok lets get this straight
Stop posting personal rubbish about other posters.
If you have an opinion on the topic, state that and move on
Anything else will be deleted.
In the last two years, (from 2020 uptill March of this year) only Joe Root and Rishabh Pant have scored more test runs than him. That's a fact. So how can you say, he has been poor for the last four years?
In the last two years, (from 2020 uptill March of this year) only Joe Root and Rishabh Pant have scored more test runs than him. That's a fact. So how can you say, he has been poor for the last four years?
In the last two years, (from 2020 uptill March of this year) only Joe Root and Rishabh Pant have scored more test runs than him. That's a fact. So how can you say, he has been poor for the last four years?
This is a total fabrication though? I knew it couldn't be correct so I had to check...
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There are almost 20 more people who have scored more runs than Azhar from Jan 2020 until March 2022. And that's despite the fact that he has played exactly half of those games against minnows like Bangladesh, WIndies and Zimbabwe.
Batting at an average of 41 whilst playing half of your games against minnows is hardly exemplary. Any of his replacements would have been far better. He is finished and has been for a long time now!
Azhar Ali had seriously disappointed me I was expecting him to score a Ton in that first Innings.
On what basis were you expecting him to score a ton when he scored 3 runs in the 1st inns and 6 runs in the 2nd inns? That's a grand total of 9 runs at an average of 4.5.
I mean 95% of people could tell you were going to be left disappointed before a ball was bowled in the series.
This is a total fabrication though? I knew it couldn't be correct so I had to check...
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There are almost 20 more people who have scored more runs than Azhar from Jan 2020 until March 2022. And that's despite the fact that he has played exactly half of those games against minnows like Bangladesh, WIndies and Zimbabwe.
Batting at an average of 41 whilst playing half of your games against minnows is hardly exemplary. Any of his replacements would have been far better. He is finished and has been for a long time now!
Azhar Ali had seriously disappointed me I was expecting him to score a Ton in that first Innings.
You are getting these fake stats from an old Youtube video without a source when I am showing you the cold hard facts... He is not amongst the top in the last 2 years despite playing half of his games against minnows.
The graph about the most runs since 2010 is irrelevant too as noone denies that Azhar was atleast serviceable 10 years ago. The argument is that he needs to be discarded NOW as he has been useless for the last 4/5 years. At 37 years of official age (with real age likely greater), its time for him to go.
Keep changing the goal post all you want. But I maintained throughout...from the beginning of my post that I was talking about his numbers uptill March 2022. Which is also when I made this thread. And that also proves without a shadow of doubt that Azhar Ali has been great for 2 years. So really you should be ashamed of yourself for calling me a liar. Because I was 100% right.
How are you right though? I pulled up the stats from 2020 until March 2022 as you requested.
I will post them again as you clearly ignored it but he is not at the top at all despite playing half of his tests against minnows).
Your "sTaTs" are from a youtube video without sources whilst I am providing cold hard evidence from Statsguru.
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You have to break down the runs - they are all ultimately soft runs.
Azhar is a man who always approaches every innings as a crisis.
Let’s say for arguments sake that someone in the pak team has said. “We don’t care about strike rate, Azhar Ali can bat as slow as he wants, we want him for a crisis. When we are trying to save games, Azhar is our man, he’ll hold an end, when we lose our openers early, Azhar’s our man to stabilise, when we are trying to win a game in the 4th innings, he’ll hold up an end, bat through and let the other end flail away”
Brilliant, it might be boring - he has a role, an aim and a purpose. Something to judge him against.
Vs SL
Crisis in the last test 1st innings - fail
Stiff target in the second innings, requires batsmen to bat long even if a bit slow - fail
Vs Aus 3rd test
Crisis in the 4th innings - whether we went for the win or a draw, Azhar is the man who can occupy the crease - fail
Vs Aus 2nd test
Ditto above
Vs West Indies
1st test Openers out early. Azhar required - fail
Vs New Zealand
Crisis nearly every innings - fail. Required Faheem and Riz to avert the crises
And you wonder why people are sick of the sight of him.
The bulk of his runs in that 2 year period have been
Flat pitch vs Aus where everyone scored!
Flat pitch vs Eng where even Crawley made 267 and Buttler a ton. And even then only the rain saved them.
Vs Zimbabwe
Big innings - What a hero
So put the stats in some context
Keep changing the goal post all you want. But I maintained throughout...from the beginning of my post that I was talking about his numbers uptill March 2022. Which is also when I made this thread. And that also proves without a shadow of doubt that Azhar Ali has been great for 2 years.
What is the point of having such a feeble playe wrhen this 'Senior' batsmen plays 40-50 balls for 4-5-6-10 runs on a regular basis (almost happens in every other game)...no matter who the opposition is?
Whenever he comes in, he proceeds in to killing any momentum the other batsmen have developed (through his ungainly tuk tuk) and then gets out when he seems to be decently set. On top of that, despite playing a large number of balls, he barely scores any runs. Leaving the team ina hole.
Whenever history will look at him, it will be hard for anyone to justify him lingering on (at the end of his career) despite barely scoring any runs and never seeming to have any confidence to take on any bolwers.
Haven't you heard? The appeal of test cricket has always been the idea of man battling adversity and succeeding only through sheer will, determination and hard work.![]()
Azhar dropped for the 2nd Test - has his luck finally run out?
We must analyse the numbers and leave emotions aside. After Younis and Misbah's retirement in summer 2017, Azhar was expected to pick up the slack as the seniormost batsman.
Since then, Azhar averages 35 from 35 Tests. Omitting Zimbabwe that falls to 33. Now most Test batsmen experience some age-related decline. However Azhar's decline is stark.
His overall average drops by 13, but most concerning is his away average which dips by nearly 20 !
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To place that in context - Asad Shafiq's overall and away averages post-MisYou dipped by 4 and 8 respectively, and he got axed ! So the question is how much longer can this be tolerated by Babar and co ?
Anyone who is shy and obedient is good enough for Redwood.
He rates Kane Williamson over Joe Root. Prefers Misbah over Wasim Akram and is drooling for Azhar Ali to retire on 100 tests and have a farewell test.
The loser mentality is everywhere in Pakistan cricket, from players to coaching staff to PCB employees and also with fans.This is started with Misbah and must end with Azhar Ali.
Moving on from Azhar Ali will mark the start of a much needed new era for Pakistan cricket.
Definitely feels like AA’s presence is now holding back Pakistan cricket.
We have this weird obsession picking average players and continuing their careers way past their sell by dates. It's stops new blood and the introduction of new players.
I think we should not blame Azhar Ali but we should blame the management and Captain.
AA has to do the best for him but it makes you think why we pick these mediocrities for years after they are past their sell by dates
How are you right though? I pulled up the stats from 2020 until March 2022 as you requested.
I will post them again as you clearly ignored it but he is not at the top at all despite playing half of his tests against minnows).
Your "sTaTs" are from a youtube video without sources whilst I am providing cold hard evidence from Statsguru.
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remember when people said this clown could displace Root from Fab 4 back in like 2016?![]()
Azhar Ali scores 219 against Northern with 20 fours and six sixes in QeA22
100 tests with a likely average of 42 with around 7500 runs.
20 years down the line the next gen will be looking at it and admiring. They'll need to then read this thread.