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Condescending? Stop being so touchy and learn to be corrected when you are wrong. I have actually stayed away from commenting on a lot of your posts because a lot of people give you a hard time and I don’t want to add to it.

Your stats are without any context. It is clutching at straws to bring up the average of 60 when the majority of his runs came in a dead match on a dead pitch. What about his failures in the 4th innings, one of which led to defeat and the other required one of the great escapes in Pakistan history to save?

2 failures? When? You’re talking about the last series. In every series he has multiple failures! How is that sustainable? Your reasons for persisting with him are delusional. Even if Azhar hired a marketing team they wouldn’t come up with such delusional bending of the truth.

You talked in a previous post about his saving a match in England. The match was only saved by rain, not his innings. If the rain stayed away we would have lost.

I could care less about anyone giving me a hard time. What p*sses me off are posters who constantly take an arrogant and condescending tone. I'm never going to take people like that seriously. Or admit anything to them. Right or wrong. Examine the way you started this conversation. The fact that you expect me to respond to you seriously when you have started it off by taking an aggressive and antagonistic tone is laughable on its own. Like I said, learn some basic manners and etiquettes. Just because you and so many others here are hiding behind a fake name doesn't mean civility doesn't apply to you.

Yeah no they are not. Like I said at the beginning of this post, between the start of 2020 uptill the last series Azhar was the highest run-scorer in the world in test cricket. That's not something that can happen by fluke or by one good innings or series. If he was that terrible he wouldn't be leading the global charts the way he was during that period.

Ironic that you talk about context in one breath and make such an intellectually dishonest statement like the one you made in your last two lines. Azhar Ali played 272 balls in that innings, an innings in which pretty much the entire batting collapsed. Had he not played that innings things never would have gotten to Day 5. The match would have ended long ago.
 
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if pakistan lose this match, think of azhar ali not being able to score 10 runs...

It’s a disgrace that Azhar Ali is still in the side. Until Pakistan get rid of Azhar and Fawad, we will simply not develop as we should and can into a top team.
 
To be honest wasn’t the cited Azhar Ali century against England scored in the same match where Zak Crawley got a 250 and Jos Buttler got a 150, two guys who are talented but have sometimes struggled with the conditions and required levels of concentration in Test cricket.

I can’t remember the match particularly well but for Zak and Jos to be plundering runs the pitch can’t have been that tricky.
 
To be honest wasn’t the cited Azhar Ali century against England scored in the same match where Zak Crawley got a 250 and Jos Buttler got a 150, two guys who are talented but have sometimes struggled with the conditions and required levels of concentration in Test cricket.

I can’t remember the match particularly well but for Zak and Jos to be plundering runs the pitch can’t have been that tricky.

Not only that, Buttler can't even get into the Test side these days and Crawley has struggled thereafter, looks to be on borrowed time as well.
 
Azhar nearly cost us the game with his pathetic scores in the top order. Its pretty damning when a block specialist like Azhar Ali faces less balls in the first innings than the number 10 (Naseem Shah).

He was truly embarassing in this game and must be discarded if we are to continue to progress. He may be a "senior" player but he will not be a loss to our side like Misbah and Younus were as they are LIGHTYEARS apart...

We don't need senior players in the side that never perform. Babar is the best batsman in the world right now so we should build around him with young talent. It's time Shakeel/Masood are goven a chance and Azhar is dropped. Salman also needs to be replaced.
 
Now we have one leeches like Saqlain, Azhar, Hasan will milk it for few years.
 
As I said he aint going anywhere because our decision makers suffer from inertia. They don't like any criticism and to avoid that you don't make any decisions about anyone with even an average record. Babar is a top player but he doesn't have the courage to make tough decisions
 
Redwood Its not a handful of failures Azhars been avge to poor for 4 years now

Yes hes got the odd century here and there but its sandwiched between multiple low scores

You cant hide the fact hes avging 35 over the last 4 years and how hes looking more and more like someone whos well past it

Also my opinion but no player os owed anything You perform you stay in the team Theres no room for sentiment when matches need winning Its not fair for players on sidelines that someone gets freebie games for personal milestones
 
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Ok lets get this straight

Stop posting personal rubbish about other posters.

If you have an opinion on the topic, state that and move on

Anything else will be deleted.
 
Redwood Its not a handful of failures Azhars been avge to poor for 4 years now

Yes hes got the odd century here and there but its sandwiched between multiple low scores

You cant hide the fact hes avging 35 over the last 4 years and how hes looking more and more like someone whos well past it

Also my opinion but no player os owed anything You perform you stay in the team Theres no room for sentiment when matches need winning Its not fair for players on sidelines that someone gets freebie games for personal milestones

In the last two years, (from 2020 uptill March of this year) only Joe Root and Rishabh Pant have scored more test runs than him. That's a fact. So how can you say, he has been poor for the last four years?
 
This video sums up Azhar Ali better than I ever could. I'm sure it will not be enough for some people. But honestly, I don't care. I am tired of repeating the same things over and over again. Especially when I've already said everything I needed to say multiple times. If anyone quotes me again on this thread, I'm not responding. I take back what I said earlier: that I am willing to have a balanced conversation with anyone. It has become obvious to me that such a thing is not possible with certain people. Anyway, watch this video and if its not enough than that's too bad. I really don't care.

Also, I stand by everything i said about Azhar Ali.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F0tykB9SLc
 
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Ok lets get this straight

Stop posting personal rubbish about other posters.

If you have an opinion on the topic, state that and move on

Anything else will be deleted.

Reminder…
 
In the last two years, (from 2020 uptill March of this year) only Joe Root and Rishabh Pant have scored more test runs than him. That's a fact. So how can you say, he has been poor for the last four years?

So 2020 is 4 years ago is it?

Also how many match winning and saving knocks has Azhar played since 2020 against top sides? (zimbabwe isnt a top side by the way).
 
An average player that should have gone a long time ago. He has no positive influence on our results against decent teams, why is he still playing. New guys might have failed but we will never know because Babar and Wasim are scared to make the tough calls
 
Azhar Ali needs to go now. He is keeping an in-form Shan Masood out of the side, and that is not right or fair.

Take a leaf out of the books of people like Eoin Morgan. Go when people are still fond of you. Don’t wait until the fans are cursing the bad luck of the whole nation that you just won’t let go.
 
In the last two years, (from 2020 uptill March of this year) only Joe Root and Rishabh Pant have scored more test runs than him. That's a fact. So how can you say, he has been poor for the last four years?

Im not sure if thats a true or not Please provide some proof If it is its been a low bar

It doesnt change the fact hes on a terminal decline Hes avging 35 since 2018 and in 58 innings since only scores 50 or more in 13 innings Thats every 4.5 innings

Simply not good enough anymore Hes done
 
So supposedly Azhar is a solid batsmen who can occupy crease etc.. you would think that when it comes to match winning contributions and knocks that he would contribute alot.

Apart from that 1 magrib chase where he was told to get a move he always flops in final inns.

The pathetic effort with tail vs NZ in UAE defeat is testiment to that.

Look at pakistans 2 big run chases vs SL and the 2 day batting effort to save game vs Aussies. All 3 done well Azhar got out early. Just goes to show he provides nothing to team in this situations.
 
since Jan 1st 2020 (excluding zimbabwe because they are minnows)

Matches 16
Inns - 28
NO - 3
Runs - 983
Ave - 39
100 - 2
50 - 4
Ducks - 4

6 inns out off 28 hes scored 50 or more runs. Thats one fifty every 7 inns, one hundred every 14 inns.

So almost half his inns 13 out of 28 hes getting 20 or less runs.

In 22 out of his 28 inns (approx 75%) hes scoring 38 runs or less

So pretty much half his inns his failing and 75% of his inns hes scoring less than 38 runs.

But dont let stats slap you in the face.
 
If Pakistan wants to reach WTC Finals, they need to kick out this cancer ASAP. Azhar Ali is the last remaining remnant of the toxic Misbah-Waqar-Azhar trio - the worst phase of Pakistan Cricket.
 
In the last two years, (from 2020 uptill March of this year) only Joe Root and Rishabh Pant have scored more test runs than him. That's a fact. So how can you say, he has been poor for the last four years?

This is a total fabrication though? I knew it couldn't be correct so I had to check...

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There are almost 20 more people who have scored more runs than Azhar from Jan 2020 until March 2022. And that's despite the fact that he has played exactly half of those games against minnows like Bangladesh, WIndies and Zimbabwe.

Batting at an average of 41 whilst playing half of your games against minnows is hardly exemplary. Any of his replacements would have been far better. He is finished and has been for a long time now!
 
Not a chance he's been great between 2020 till now lol. If he had been, everyone would be raving about him not cursing him! Did he not go to England in the 2020 summer where he got one good score to save his spot, but series was gone?

But never mind that, why bother about winning Test matches when you can hang around like a bad smell for personal milestones like played 100 Tests. smh
 
Azhar Ali had seriously disappointed me I was expecting him to score a Ton in that first Innings.
 
This is a total fabrication though? I knew it couldn't be correct so I had to check...

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There are almost 20 more people who have scored more runs than Azhar from Jan 2020 until March 2022. And that's despite the fact that he has played exactly half of those games against minnows like Bangladesh, WIndies and Zimbabwe.

Batting at an average of 41 whilst playing half of your games against minnows is hardly exemplary. Any of his replacements would have been far better. He is finished and has been for a long time now!

Exactly! Well put together
 
Azhar Ali had seriously disappointed me I was expecting him to score a Ton in that first Innings.

On what basis were you expecting him to score a ton when he scored 3 runs in the 1st inns and 6 runs in the 2nd inns? That's a grand total of 9 runs at an average of 4.5.

I mean 95% of people could tell you were going to be left disappointed before a ball was bowled in the series.
 
On what basis were you expecting him to score a ton when he scored 3 runs in the 1st inns and 6 runs in the 2nd inns? That's a grand total of 9 runs at an average of 4.5.

I mean 95% of people could tell you were going to be left disappointed before a ball was bowled in the series.

Becouse he performs ones or twice in a test series.
 
Had Azhar Ali scored even 30 runs each innings, pakistsn would have won this game in a very comfortable manner
 
Azhar has been a really poor investment, we needed him to lead after Misbah and younis, in fact he has further regressed. Should be dropped for Shan
 
This is a total fabrication though? I knew it couldn't be correct so I had to check...

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There are almost 20 more people who have scored more runs than Azhar from Jan 2020 until March 2022. And that's despite the fact that he has played exactly half of those games against minnows like Bangladesh, WIndies and Zimbabwe.

Batting at an average of 41 whilst playing half of your games against minnows is hardly exemplary. Any of his replacements would have been far better. He is finished and has been for a long time now!

So Azhar was not top 3 scorer since 2020. excellent post.
 
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You are getting these fake stats from an old Youtube video without a source when I am showing you the cold hard facts... He is not amongst the top in the last 2 years despite playing half of his games against minnows.

The graph about the most runs since 2010 is irrelevant too as noone denies that Azhar was atleast serviceable 10 years ago. The argument is that he needs to be discarded NOW as he has been useless for the last 4/5 years. At 37 years of official age (with real age likely greater), its time for him to go.
 
Im not deriding the fact that azhars been a great servant and a very useful player for pakista
But nothing lasts forever All players have a timescale where they are useful till and azhars well and truly reached his
 
You are getting these fake stats from an old Youtube video without a source when I am showing you the cold hard facts... He is not amongst the top in the last 2 years despite playing half of his games against minnows.

The graph about the most runs since 2010 is irrelevant too as noone denies that Azhar was atleast serviceable 10 years ago. The argument is that he needs to be discarded NOW as he has been useless for the last 4/5 years. At 37 years of official age (with real age likely greater), its time for him to go.

Keep changing the goal post all you want. But I maintained throughout...from the beginning of my post that I was talking about his numbers uptill March 2022. Which is also when I made this thread. And that also proves without a shadow of doubt that Azhar Ali has been great for 2 years.
 
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Keep changing the goal post all you want. But I maintained throughout...from the beginning of my post that I was talking about his numbers uptill March 2022. Which is also when I made this thread. And that also proves without a shadow of doubt that Azhar Ali has been great for 2 years. So really you should be ashamed of yourself for calling me a liar. Because I was 100% right.

How are you right though? I pulled up the stats from 2020 until March 2022 as you requested :)).

I will post them again as you clearly ignored it but he is not at the top at all despite playing half of his tests against minnows :))).

Your "sTaTs" are from a youtube video without sources whilst I am providing cold hard evidence from Statsguru.

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How are you right though? I pulled up the stats from 2020 until March 2022 as you requested :)).

I will post them again as you clearly ignored it but he is not at the top at all despite playing half of his tests against minnows :))).

Your "sTaTs" are from a youtube video without sources whilst I am providing cold hard evidence from Statsguru.

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Well you are wrong. Probably because you didn't put March 2020 to March 2022 in your filter. I said last two years. I never said last 15 months. No need to keep sharing the screenshot because anyone will need a magnifying glass to even start reading it.

And the person you are calling a guy with no sources is Jarrod Kimber, one of the most prolific and well-respected cricket writers in the world. Who knows and understands more about cricket than you ever will.

Well I very clearly said that only Joe Root and Rishabh Pant were ahead of him. But I guess you only read what suits your argument.
 
You have to break down the runs - they are all ultimately soft runs.

Azhar is a man who always approaches every innings as a crisis.

Let’s say for arguments sake that someone in the pak team has said. “We don’t care about strike rate, Azhar Ali can bat as slow as he wants, we want him for a crisis. When we are trying to save games, Azhar is our man, he’ll hold an end, when we lose our openers early, Azhar’s our man to stabilise, when we are trying to win a game in the 4th innings, he’ll hold up an end, bat through and let the other end flail away”

Brilliant, it might be boring - he has a role, an aim and a purpose. Something to judge him against.

Vs SL
Crisis in the last test 1st innings - fail
Stiff target in the second innings, requires batsmen to bat long even if a bit slow - fail

Vs Aus 3rd test
Crisis in the 4th innings - whether we went for the win or a draw, Azhar is the man who can occupy the crease - fail

Vs Aus 2nd test
Ditto above

Vs West Indies
1st test Openers out early. Azhar required - fail

Vs New Zealand
Crisis nearly every innings - fail. Required Faheem and Riz to avert the crises

And you wonder why people are sick of the sight of him.

The bulk of his runs in that 2 year period have been

Flat pitch vs Aus where everyone scored!

Flat pitch vs Eng where even Crawley made 267 and Buttler a ton. And even then only the rain saved them.

Vs Zimbabwe
Big innings - What a hero


So put the stats in some context
 
Angelo Mathews will play his 100th Test, Azhar Ali must be so envious of him!
 
You have to break down the runs - they are all ultimately soft runs.

Azhar is a man who always approaches every innings as a crisis.

Let’s say for arguments sake that someone in the pak team has said. “We don’t care about strike rate, Azhar Ali can bat as slow as he wants, we want him for a crisis. When we are trying to save games, Azhar is our man, he’ll hold an end, when we lose our openers early, Azhar’s our man to stabilise, when we are trying to win a game in the 4th innings, he’ll hold up an end, bat through and let the other end flail away”

Brilliant, it might be boring - he has a role, an aim and a purpose. Something to judge him against.

Vs SL
Crisis in the last test 1st innings - fail
Stiff target in the second innings, requires batsmen to bat long even if a bit slow - fail

Vs Aus 3rd test
Crisis in the 4th innings - whether we went for the win or a draw, Azhar is the man who can occupy the crease - fail

Vs Aus 2nd test
Ditto above

Vs West Indies
1st test Openers out early. Azhar required - fail

Vs New Zealand
Crisis nearly every innings - fail. Required Faheem and Riz to avert the crises

And you wonder why people are sick of the sight of him.

The bulk of his runs in that 2 year period have been

Flat pitch vs Aus where everyone scored!

Flat pitch vs Eng where even Crawley made 267 and Buttler a ton. And even then only the rain saved them.

Vs Zimbabwe
Big innings - What a hero


So put the stats in some context

When you look at impactful players around the world or when the opposition looks at pakistan batsmen and think ‘oh gee I wonder who’s a threat for us?’

Believe me, Azhar Ali’s name NEVER jumps off that list.

When can he be relied upon stabilizing the inning or moving the game forward let alone winning the game?

He has no impact.
 
What is the point of having such a feeble playe wrhen this 'Senior' batsmen plays 40-50 balls for 4-5-6-10 runs on a regular basis (almost happens in every other game)...no matter who the opposition is?

Whenever he comes in, he proceeds in to killing any momentum the other batsmen have developed (through his ungainly tuk tuk) and then gets out when he seems to be decently set. On top of that, despite playing a large number of balls, he barely scores any runs. Leaving the team ina hole.

Whenever history will look at him, it will be hard for anyone to justify him lingering on (at the end of his career) despite barely scoring any runs and never seeming to have any confidence to take on any bolwers.
 
Keep changing the goal post all you want. But I maintained throughout...from the beginning of my post that I was talking about his numbers uptill March 2022. Which is also when I made this thread. And that also proves without a shadow of doubt that Azhar Ali has been great for 2 years.

There are a hundred ways to lie with stats - picking and choosing exact months is one of them :)

As others have said , azhar is not an impact player , very Seldom has won any games. His time is up, as simple as that
 
What is the point of having such a feeble playe wrhen this 'Senior' batsmen plays 40-50 balls for 4-5-6-10 runs on a regular basis (almost happens in every other game)...no matter who the opposition is?

Whenever he comes in, he proceeds in to killing any momentum the other batsmen have developed (through his ungainly tuk tuk) and then gets out when he seems to be decently set. On top of that, despite playing a large number of balls, he barely scores any runs. Leaving the team ina hole.

Whenever history will look at him, it will be hard for anyone to justify him lingering on (at the end of his career) despite barely scoring any runs and never seeming to have any confidence to take on any bolwers.

Haven't you heard? The appeal of test cricket has always been the idea of man battling adversity and succeeding only through sheer will, determination and hard work. :yk
 
Haven't you heard? The appeal of test cricket has always been the idea of man battling adversity and succeeding only through sheer will, determination and hard work. :yk



Unfortunately, the last thing from that list is usually missing from Azhar's innings i.e. scoring some decent amount of runs, after all the stonewalling against even the gentlest of bowlers
 
Pujara > Azhar

Both have played 96 tests now and average is slightly higher for Pujara but more or less not much of a difference in average vs top teams. I would say Pujara better because he has played more games vs top teams compared to Azhar Ali and plays spin better than Azhar Ali.
 
Azhar dropped for the 2nd Test - has his luck finally run out?
 
Azhar should announce his Retirement now.
Truly a Great servant of PCT.
Should ask for a farewell match against England, preferably in Lahore & then say Goodbye.
 
It is not necessary for Azhar Ali to hang on just to complete his dream of playing 100 plus tests. He should see the writing on the wall and announce his retirement.

That will make the job of the team management and selectors much easier without having to deal with the "oh but he is a senior" headache.
 
Azhar dropped for the 2nd Test - has his luck finally run out?

After 5 years his luck ran out. im sure there will be tears from his fan boys in lahore and probably a protest in lahore as this legend has been dropped ;)
 
We must analyse the numbers and leave emotions aside. After Younis and Misbah's retirement in summer 2017, Azhar was expected to pick up the slack as the seniormost batsman.

Since then, Azhar averages 35 from 35 Tests. Omitting Zimbabwe that falls to 33. Now most Test batsmen experience some age-related decline. However Azhar's decline is stark.

His overall average drops by 13, but most concerning is his away average which dips by nearly 20 !

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To place that in context - Asad Shafiq's overall and away averages post-MisYou dipped by 4 and 8 respectively, and he got axed ! So the question is how much longer can this be tolerated by Babar and co ?

probably till his 100th test... he has been safe guard his place in the 2nd test by knowingly put fawad instead of Shan and Saud...
 
Anyone who is shy and obedient is good enough for Redwood.

He rates Kane Williamson over Joe Root. Prefers Misbah over Wasim Akram and is drooling for Azhar Ali to retire on 100 tests and have a farewell test.

The loser mentality is everywhere in Pakistan cricket, from players to coaching staff to PCB employees and also with fans.This is started with Misbah and must end with Azhar Ali.
 
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Anyone who is shy and obedient is good enough for Redwood.

He rates Kane Williamson over Joe Root. Prefers Misbah over Wasim Akram and is drooling for Azhar Ali to retire on 100 tests and have a farewell test.

The loser mentality is everywhere in Pakistan cricket, from players to coaching staff to PCB employees and also with fans.This is started with Misbah and must end with Azhar Ali.

With Misbah, Waqar Younis, Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali, this nexus of incompetence is the biggest reason why Pakistan cricket is in a depressing state over the last 15 years.
 
Moving on from Azhar Ali will mark the start of a much needed new era for Pakistan cricket.
 
Definitely feels like AA’s presence is now holding back Pakistan cricket.

We have this weird obsession picking average players and continuing their careers way past their sell by dates. It's stops new blood and the introduction of new players.
 
We have this weird obsession picking average players and continuing their careers way past their sell by dates. It's stops new blood and the introduction of new players.

I think we should not blame Azhar Ali but we should blame the management and Captain.
 
44th FC hundred - scores a fantastic 107 in his first game of the season

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How are you right though? I pulled up the stats from 2020 until March 2022 as you requested :)).

I will post them again as you clearly ignored it but he is not at the top at all despite playing half of his tests against minnows :))).

Your "sTaTs" are from a youtube video without sources whilst I am providing cold hard evidence from Statsguru.

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This is more embarrassing than Azhar’s performance. [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] pulling up fake stats oh my. :)))
 
remember when people said this clown could displace Root from Fab 4 back in like 2016? :facepalm
 
Azhar Ali brings up his 45th first-class century and his second in three innings this season in QeA22
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">45 first-class hundreds now for Azhar Ali. He's now joint 9th on the list with Inzamam-ul-Haq for Pakistanis with the most first-class centuries. <br><br>Zaheer Abbas is top of the list with 108 first-class hundreds<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/QEAT?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#QEAT</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1581553677990404098?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2022</a></blockquote>
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It's time to blood new guys before they end up being 35 without getting a shot in Tests.

Kamran Ghulam and Saud Shakeel are the two logical replacements for Azhar and Fawad.
 
Azhar Ali scores 219 against Northern with 20 fours and six sixes in QeA22
 
Azhar Ali scores 219 against Northern with 20 fours and six sixes in QeA22

from PCB

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Azhar Ali scored a 108 - his 46th first-class hundred.

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How is this parchi still in the team? Can't even score on these roads. Why can't Pakistan be somewhat proactive for once and plan for the future?
 
Azhar is playing his 96th test and I am not sure if he has ever played match winning / saving inning when the team is under pressure or when something special is required from him. He is the most ordinary batsman to play so many test matches.
 
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I believe the PCB has told him we will honour you by helping you play a hundred test matches but after that you better retire.
 
Out for 27 on a featherbed.

What are we to do with Azhar?
 
[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]

Time for more fake stats please.
 
Can we please find a way to justify a miscalculation, make this his 100th test, cut a cake, post on social media and be done with this idiocy
 
100 tests with a likely average of 42 with around 7500 runs.

20 years down the line the next gen will be looking at it and admiring. They'll need to then read this thread.
 
100 tests with a likely average of 42 with around 7500 runs.

20 years down the line the next gen will be looking at it and admiring. They'll need to then read this thread.

That might be a decent record in the 80s, in this era it is bang mediocre.

On the contrary, a lot of people in years to come will look at his record and think how the hell was he allowed to play 100 tests.
 
These pitches are tailor made to save the career of the most timid veteran of the game ever
 
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