[VIDEOS] "Azhar Ali isn't good enough"

[Monsee]

I want the well past by his expiry date good for nothing Azhar Ali out ASAP (who still bats like it is his first test, scared like a chicken)...dude people with 87 some tests should be able to handle most type of bowling on such a benign surface but he still managed to make it look like a minefield!

Every test (you can look at last 15-20 or maybe more since his 200 against Australia) he comes in to bat, he basically takes the whole momentum and team down just so he could play 200 balls to score his 50. People should have some shame and do self analysis and retire when they are not helping the team. Same with Sarfraz, who is just collecting pay checks while blocking way of Harris and other younger keepers, from gaining access to to the ODI and Test teams.

 

[Kianig89]

Completely outdated as a player would prefer Abid Ali or Shan Masood in place of him, his low 30ish SR and one trick mid on range adds insult to top order batsman

 

[shamaan]

Should be dropped and Kamran or Hurraira should be brought into the squad.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Azhar has been a good servant for Pakistan cricket---I know certain posters here have amnesia and can only remember till a week or a month ago---but now its time for him to retire.

Shan Masood should be batting at No. 3.

 

[Mamoon]

Azhar has been a good servant for Pakistan cricket---I know certain posters here have amnesia and can only remember till a week or a month ago---but now its time for him to retire.

Shan Masood should be batting at No. 3.

Beautiful.

Replace a limited & timid 37 year old with a crap 33 year old who has never averaged above 31 in his Test career, currently averages 29 after 25 Tests & averaged 2.5 in his last series.

It is going to work out really well.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Beautiful.

Replace a limited & timid 37 year old with a crap 33 year old who has never averaged above 31 in his Test career, currently averages 29 after 25 Tests & averaged 2.5 in his last series.

It is going to work out really well.

I know you live in a box where you think that your deluded, outdated opinions hold any relevance, but in the real world players who score runs in domestic and FC cricket consistently are the ones who are supposed to get chances in test cricket. Shan Masood has not only been scoring runs in QeA Trophy cricket in the last two years, he was also topping the county charts at one point and scored over 1000 runs in the last season he played.

With the kind of slim talent pool that Pakistan has, Shan is the only batter who deserves to walk into the test eleven.

 

[Mamoon]

I know you live in a box where you think that your deluded, outdated opinions hold any relevance, but in the real world players who score runs in domestic and FC cricket consistently are the ones who are supposed to get chances in test cricket. Shan Masood has not only been scoring runs in QeA Trophy cricket in the last two years, he was also topping the county charts at one point and scored over 1000 runs in the last season he played.

With the kind of slim talent pool that Pakistan has, Shan is the only batter who deserves to walk into the test eleven.

In the real word, a 33 year old with an average of 29 in 25 Tests & someone who has never found a way to score consistently in international cricket (hence the pathetic average) will be put out to pasture for good.

Domestic/FC cricket is not a platform for tried & tested failures in international cricket to get back into the side. If you average 29 in 25 Tests & are 33 years old now, you should stick to domestic cricket because that is your level.

Maybe Shan Masood is a great player in your deluded world where Joe Root is not fit to tie Williamson’s shoelaces as a batsman & Fawad should still be in the team, but in the real world, Masood is total crap who should be nowhere near the team.

 

[MenInG]

Babar Azam in his presser:

The Pakistan skipper also spoke about the future of veteran batter Azhar Ali, who has struggled for runs in the recent past.

"Azhar Ali is our senior player. I will support him as captain but it is up to Azhar Ali himself to decide his future,"

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

In the real word, a 33 year old with an average of 29 in 25 Tests & someone who has never found a way to score consistently in international cricket (hence the pathetic average) will be put out to pasture for good.

Domestic/FC cricket is not a platform for tried & tested failures in international cricket to get back into the side. If you average 29 in 25 Tests & are 33 years old now, you should stick to domestic cricket because that is your level.

Maybe Shan Masood is a great player in your deluded world where Joe Root is not fit to tie Williamson’s shoelaces as a batsman & Fawad should still be in the team, but in the real world, Masood is total crap who should be nowhere near the team.

If this was true then Brendon McCullum's career would have ended in the late 2000s. Unfortunately though you do not have the sufficient to comprehend there growth in cricket is not always linear.

Maybe what you're saying is true in your deluded world where you think that Haris Rauf is a street bowler, Tim David is a flop who will never be successful outside PSL, and India has the best T20 bowling attack in the world, but not so much in the real world.

 

[Mamoon]

If this was true then Brendon McCullum's career would have ended in the late 2000s. Unfortunately though you do not have the sufficient to comprehend there growth in cricket is not always linear.

Maybe what you're saying is true in your deluded world where you think that Haris Rauf is a street bowler, Tim David is a flop who will never be successful outside PSL, and India has the best T20 bowling attack in the world, but not so much in the real world.

McCullum was in his 20’s in mid & early 2000s. Masood is 33. McCullum was inconsistent but he showed his brilliance in flashes & it was clear that he had plenty of talent.

Masood low ceiling & limited ability has been obvious since his first year in international cricket. We heard a lot of crap about how much he has improved when he made his comeback in 2019, but he is still averaging in the 30’s over the last 3 years & averaged 2.50 in his last series.

I think even you would not average 2.50 if you pad up for Pakistan. The way his form tanked after that hundred in England was sufficient prove that it was a flash in the pan performance & the notion that he has improved is a myth.

Considering his age & his mediocre body of work (mediocre is a light word) & his performance since coming back to the team, it is very obvious that it is absolute madness to bring him back to the team.

Insanity is doing the same thing over & Ofer again & expecting different results. Pakistan have wasted 10 years trying to make a player out of someone who is just not capable of being a quality player at this level.

He makes the mediocre Azhar look like Tendulkar. Speaking of Azhar, you defended him to the hilt until you made peace with reality & abandoned him quicker than his form did. It seems like you have a weird infatuation with mediocre players.

Won’t be long before you abandon Masood as well.

Speaking of Rauf, I don’t think it is a good time to puff your chest. He got spanked so hard in his debut Test he ran away & is unlikely to play this format ever again, which means he is going to go down - statistically - as the worst fast bowler in history of the format, although the awful Naseem Shah might give tough competition because he has been getting smashed left, right & center in Test cricket since his debut.

 

[Rana]

McCullum was in his 20’s in mid & early 2000s. Masood is 33. McCullum was inconsistent but he showed his brilliance in flashes & it was clear that he had plenty of talent.

Masood low ceiling & limited ability has been obvious since his first year in international cricket. We heard a lot of crap about how much he has improved when he made his comeback in 2019, but he is still averaging in the 30’s over the last 3 years & averaged 2.50 in his last series.

I think even you would not average 2.50 if you pad up for Pakistan. The way his form tanked after that hundred in England was sufficient prove that it was a flash in the pan performance & the notion that he has improved is a myth.

Considering his age & his mediocre body of work (mediocre is a light word) & his performance since coming back to the team, it is very obvious that it is absolute madness to bring him back to the team.

Insanity is doing the same thing over & Ofer again & expecting different results. Pakistan have wasted 10 years trying to make a player out of someone who is just not capable of being a quality player at this level.

He makes the mediocre Azhar look like Tendulkar. Speaking of Azhar, you defended him to the hilt until you made peace with reality & abandoned him quicker than his form did. It seems like you have a weird infatuation with mediocre players.

Won’t be long before you abandon Masood as well.

Speaking of Rauf, I don’t think it is a good time to puff your chest. He got spanked so hard in his debut Test he ran away & is unlikely to play this format ever again, which means he is going to go down - statistically - as the worst fast bowler in history of the format, although the awful Naseem Shah might give tough competition because he has been getting smashed left, right & center in Test cricket since his debut.

Masood is an ordinary player but in this version of PCB he is considered the perfect type. He is our T20 number 3. Just imagine how valued he is by PCB and this selector

 

[Mamoon]

Masood is an ordinary player but in this version of PCB he is considered the perfect type. He is our T20 number 3. Just imagine how valued he is by PCB and this selector

It an outcome of the stat-padding culture that Babar & his sidekick Rizwan has imposed on the team. Everyone is interested in personal milestones only.

 

[topspin]

If this was true then Brendon McCullum's career would have ended in the late 2000s. Unfortunately though you do not have the sufficient to comprehend there growth in cricket is not always linear.

Maybe what you're saying is true in your deluded world where you think that Haris Rauf is a street bowler, Tim David is a flop who will never be successful outside PSL, and India has the best T20 bowling attack in the world, but not so much in the real world.

If I was you, I'd be the last person to throw that word around.

This is another case of you getting smug and carried away. I can't believe how you can go above and beyond to make a case for Azhar Ali.

This is terrible reading of the game just like when you also said:

- Joe Root isn't fit to tie Kane Williamson's shoelaces
- Fawad Alam should stay in the team
- You'd rather pick Misbah over Wasim Akram

Also not to forget your blind chest thumping of Babar and Rizwan as Pakistan's opening duo in T20Is.

This is what happens when you see cricket through the lens of Misbah. Logic goes out the door.

 

[topspin]

Masood is an ordinary player but in this version of PCB he is considered the perfect type. He is our T20 number 3. Just imagine how valued he is by PCB and this selector

He was good in the WT20 and was needed for Australian conditions because he's one of the few players in the side who has the shots to play on the back foot. But at his age I hope Pakistan move on from him in the shortest format.

In ODIs, he should play until the 2023 WC.

We actually need him for tests.

 

[Rana]

He was good in the WT20 and was needed for Australian conditions because he's one of the few players in the side who has the shots to play on the back foot. But at his age I hope Pakistan move on from him in the shortest format.

In ODIs, he should play until the 2023 WC.

We actually need him for tests.

Yes he was decent in the WT20 but he is just a beneficiary of this current PCB’s regime of promoting players who lack character, confidence and charisma in all formats. Only Shaheen has a likeable personality that is genuine and fearless.

Realistically, there were far more deserving players for these conditions than Shan and others who I don’t want to name but they are just weirdly being overlooked for no justifiable reason.

I feel sorry for Kamran Ghulam at least if Shan gets another go and that too at no.3 over him. What has Shan done to deserve a spot in this side which Kamran hasn’t done throughout his domestic fc career?

 

[Rana]

It an outcome of the stat-padding culture that Babar & his sidekick Rizwan has imposed on the team. Everyone is interested in personal milestones only.

This is why Test cricket is the most beautiful and pure format. You can’t get away with misuse of power and connections in this format because your weaknesses will be exposed and everyone to see.

It would be amazing to see Babar and Rizwan open the batting in Tests like they hold on to the opening position in T20 and have the most 100 run partnerships etc. If they are opening the innings because it’s apparently a skill to see off the new white ball, surely they can also show us the skill in Test cricket?

 

[topspin]

Yes he was decent in the WT20 but he is just a beneficiary of this current PCB’s regime of promoting players who lack character, confidence and charisma in all formats. Only Shaheen has a likeable personality that is genuine and fearless.

Realistically, there were far more deserving players for these conditions than Shan and others who I don’t want to name but they are just weirdly being overlooked for no justifiable reason.

I feel sorry for Kamran Ghulam at least if Shan gets another go and that too at no.3 over him. What has Shan done to deserve a spot in this side which Kamran hasn’t done throughout his domestic fc career?

Shaheen is the only ATG material in this team. Most posters here rave more about Babar because he has more milestones after all the minnow/B+C string bashing but Shaheen is head and shoulders above everyone else.

Babar is miles off from the "Fab 4" and ATG status.

As for Kamran Ghulam, I agree if it's between him and Shan, he should get the nod. He's been treated unfairly.

But I think you can accommodate both. I'm not convinced by Agha Salman. Him and Azhar should be replaced for Kamran Ghulam and Shan Masood.

 

[Rana]

Shaheen is the only ATG material in this team. Most posters here rave more about Babar because he has more milestones after all the minnow/B+C string bashing but Shaheen is head and shoulders above everyone else.

Babar is miles off from the "Fab 4" and ATG status.

As for Kamran Ghulam, I agree if it's between him and Shan, he should get the nod. He's been treated unfairly.

But I think you can accommodate both. I'm not convinced by Agha Salman. Him and Azhar should be replaced for Kamran Ghulam and Shan Masood.

I personally don’t mind Agha Salman too much. I feel he has some confidence to his game and isn’t afraid to play positively unlike the likes of Saud and Azhar who just want to make sure they have eaten up enough deliveries before they can get going. Agha could be ideal if he actually becomes a useful bowler. Jacks took 6 wickets on a road as an off spinner, Agha isn’t too bad but he hasn’t contributed enough with the ball

 

[Ahmed216]

I personally don’t mind Agha Salman too much. I feel he has some confidence to his game and isn’t afraid to play positively unlike the likes of Saud and Azhar who just want to make sure they have eaten up enough deliveries before they can get going. Agha could be ideal if he actually becomes a useful bowler. Jacks took 6 wickets on a road as an off spinner, Agha isn’t too bad but he hasn’t contributed enough with the ball

Agha is terrible against pacers believe me

 

[Kroll]

Agha is terrible against pacers believe me

Still an upgrade over Azhar Ali who is just terrible.

 

[shamaan]

Azhar has been a good servant for Pakistan cricket---I know certain posters here have amnesia and can only remember till a week or a month ago---but now its time for him to retire.

Shan Masood should be batting at No. 3.

Pakistan should pick kamran ghullam or Hurraira in the squad/xi

 

[shamaan]

I personally don’t mind Agha Salman too much. I feel he has some confidence to his game and isn’t afraid to play positively unlike the likes of Saud and Azhar who just want to make sure they have eaten up enough deliveries before they can get going. Agha could be ideal if he actually becomes a useful bowler. Jacks took 6 wickets on a road as an off spinner, Agha isn’t too bad but he hasn’t contributed enough with the ball

Agha is a terrible mubasir would have been a better choice for that position.

 

[Saj]

Not quite a vote of confidence today from Babar was it.

It will be interesting to see how Azhar's career goes.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Babar Azam in his presser:

The Pakistan skipper also spoke about the future of veteran batter Azhar Ali, who has struggled for runs in the recent past.

"Azhar Ali is our senior player. I will support him as captain but it is up to Azhar Ali himself to decide his future,"

Its time MO Wasim grew a pair and dropped him from the sqaud, Aussie series was perfect time to move on from him and fawad and build a new batting line up, but we end up putting up with same TTFs.

 

[UP]

Have always said this guy is a tailender and god knows how he has survived for 96 matches so far. The useless chief selector who talks about other people strike rates needs to look at this momentum killer's strike rate.

 

[W63L35]

Babar does not seem to be worried about Azhar's form... he said... "form ooper neechay hoti rehti hai!"

 

[Savak]

Azhar Ali is surviving on charity right now as far as his place in the team is concerned. The PCB is trying desperately to get him through a hundred tests before removing him.

 

[The_KING]

This guy is so untalented that he should give everyone hope that they too can make it as an international cricketer.

 

[MenInG]

Dropped from Pakistan's XI for the 2nd Test!

Could this be the end?

 

[m.shah]

Finally dropped

 

[shah_1]

His career is over now, he should retire.

 

[Savak]

Azhar Ali should take the hint and do the honourable thing.

 

[Abdullah]

Babar does not seem to be worried about Azhar's form... he said... "form ooper neechay hoti rehti hai!"

What did you want him to say in the presser
Did you expect him to give somebody in his squad a public dressing down.
He was giving him "the dreaded" public vote of confidence.

 

[Kianig89]

liked that ruthlessness from Babar well done

 

[Shaka81]

Probably better for Azhar Ali's long term well being for him to be dropped from the team. He just doesn't have the reaction speed to handle genuine pace bowling and Mark Wood is probably as fast as they come nowadays.

 

[Mobashir]

Very good that we have dropped him. But he should have been replaced by a batsman. Going forward, I will keep the opening pair and have Huraira at 3 or you can also have Saud Shakeel at 3 and bring in Kamran Ghulam at 5.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

McCullum was in his 20’s in mid & early 2000s. Masood is 33. McCullum was inconsistent but he showed his brilliance in flashes & it was clear that he had plenty of talent.

Masood low ceiling & limited ability has been obvious since his first year in international cricket. We heard a lot of crap about how much he has improved when he made his comeback in 2019, but he is still averaging in the 30’s over the last 3 years & averaged 2.50 in his last series.

I think even you would not average 2.50 if you pad up for Pakistan. The way his form tanked after that hundred in England was sufficient prove that it was a flash in the pan performance & the notion that he has improved is a myth.

Considering his age & his mediocre body of work (mediocre is a light word) & his performance since coming back to the team, it is very obvious that it is absolute madness to bring him back to the team.

Insanity is doing the same thing over & Ofer again & expecting different results. Pakistan have wasted 10 years trying to make a player out of someone who is just not capable of being a quality player at this level.

He makes the mediocre Azhar look like Tendulkar. Speaking of Azhar, you defended him to the hilt until you made peace with reality & abandoned him quicker than his form did. It seems like you have a weird infatuation with mediocre players.

Won’t be long before you abandon Masood as well.

Speaking of Rauf, I don’t think it is a good time to puff your chest. He got spanked so hard in his debut Test he ran away & is unlikely to play this format ever again, which means he is going to go down - statistically - as the worst fast bowler in history of the format, although the awful Naseem Shah might give tough competition because he has been getting smashed left, right & center in Test cricket since his debut.

Good god. You really do have an absolutely insufferable way of writing. You repeat the same things over and over again just to show how strongly you feel about your opinions. We get it, you don't like Shan Masood. You have like one point to back your argument (he doesn't have a good test average) so you will keep trying to present your strongly worded opinions as fact. Your schtick has gotten old and tiresome and nobody cares about it.

It is funny though how you selectively pick the things you have something to say on, but don't even mention the other things. No mention of Tim David or India's lumber one T20 bowling attack.

I backed Azhar because I liked him as a player, and because of what he achieved over his 12 year career. Despite being very limited he punched above his weight and was a good servant for Pakistan cricket. He was at an integral element of Pakistan's dominant run in UAE under Misbaha and our rise to teh top of the test rankings. But now he reached the end of the road and its time for him to retire. So I have no idea what you're blabbering on about there, connecting him to Shan Masood.

Getting smashed on a dead-flat wicket on debut that offered nothing for the seamers for 4 days means nothing. But I urge you to keep talking about Haris and Naseem. Because while Azhar Ali will retire soon, I'll make sure to keep bumping the Haris and Naseem threads with your mentions for time to come.

Until ofcourse you muster the guts to admit that you were just trying to grab attention by calling him "a street bowler" and that you were wrong.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

If I was you, I'd be the last person to throw that word around.

This is another case of you getting smug and carried away. I can't believe how you can go above and beyond to make a case for Azhar Ali.

This is terrible reading of the game just like when you also said:

- Joe Root isn't fit to tie Kane Williamson's shoelaces
- Fawad Alam should stay in the team
- You'd rather pick Misbah over Wasim Akram

Also not to forget your blind chest thumping of Babar and Rizwan as Pakistan's opening duo in T20Is.

This is what happens when you see cricket through the lens of Misbah. Logic goes out the door.

If I was you, I would have gone into hiding after the deeply misguided comments you made on the Pakistan v Zimbabwe Match Discussion Thread. Especially after the verbal filleting you received from me and so many other posters. But clearly you don't have an ounce of self-respect.

Oh you mean the same Misbah under whom Pakistan were unbeaten in UAE for 7 years and who took Pakistan to the top of the test rankings? Or are you talking about the same Misbah who never lost a home series in Pakistan as coach? Yeah, that's what happens under the lens of Misbah. We are in such a better position as a test team ever since he left.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Let's hope he takes the hint and retires, good riddance.

 

[TheSultan]

Let's hope he takes the hint and retires, good riddance.

I wouldn’t be so sure. The whole selection today reeks of keeping everyone quiet so at the start of the next series they wheel him out again under the pretence of “experience”.

If they replaced him for another batsman and that batsman took his chance there would be no way back.

They’ve purposely picked bits n pieces players so when they next have to play a full middle order, he slots in nicely.

They will limp him along for that 100th test.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I agree with mamoon that shan masood isnt the asnwer we are looking for and that too at a ripe age of 33. His test career has been nothing but mediocre. There are guys in domestic who have been scoring heavily , kamran ghulam ,mohammad hurraira , omair yousuf etc. Why cant these guys be picked?

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

I think Shan should be in the team. He's improved in leaps and bounds as a cricketer and as far as his age, he's a young 33, not an old one. He could play for at least 5 years.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Shan masood has 33 runs in his last 8 test innings which include 4 zeros. I dont know how anyone can make a comeback from that.

 

[Savak]

Don't think Azhar Ali can get any more humiliated than this. He has been dropped twice in the last two series. Even his captain has made it clear he doesn't want him in the team anymore.

 

[Kianig89]

Good riddance the last of fossil fuels from Misbah regime the torrential Blackathon is over refreshing to see Pakistan players striking around 60s

 

[Mamoon]

Shan Masood fans are more deluded than flat-earthers.

Imagine advocating a 33 year old who averages 29 in 25 Tests & averaged 2.50 in his last Test series.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Kamran ghulam should replace Azhar now.

 

[Saj]

Surprised they dropped him actually.

I thought it wouldn't happen.

I wonder if that's him done in international cricket?

 

[Farah Sohail]

I hope he is dropped forever now

 

[Amjid Javed]

Surprised they dropped him actually.

I thought it wouldn't happen.

I wonder if that's him done in international cricket?

Until hes removed from squads by Mo Wasim, he will keep getting recalls once another batsmen fails. Fact is we have a clueless selector who does have a pair or strong enough back bone to move and select younger players like Ghulam etc.. and stick with them.

 

[Savak]

Azhar Ali can make life easier for everyone by retiring. This is what players from other countries who got the hint that they were no longer wanted by the selectors did i.e. Laxman, Dravid from India, Ian Bell from England, Damien Martyn from Australia.

Pakistani players in contrast insist on humiliation to the end.

 

[topspin]

If I was you, I would have gone into hiding after the deeply misguided comments you made on the Pakistan v Zimbabwe Match Discussion Thread. Especially after the verbal filleting you received from me and so many other posters. But clearly you don't have an ounce of self-respect.

Oh you mean the same Misbah under whom Pakistan were unbeaten in UAE for 7 years and who took Pakistan to the top of the test rankings? Or are you talking about the same Misbah who never lost a home series in Pakistan as coach? Yeah, that's what happens under the lens of Misbah. We are in such a better position as a test team ever since he left.

No it's you who should've gone into hiding after coming up with this deluded thread.

Nothing was misguided about my comments in the Pakistan v Zimbabwe thread. I was proven correct about the credentials of the RizBar duo opening the batting in T20Is. No one expected us to make the final but that was more luck more than anything else because we weren't even the second best team in the competition and we had to rely on Netherlands to beat South Africa to get past the group stage. If that's what's making you go bhangra then you epitomise a fan with the small team mentality. But this is expected from a blind Misbah fan.

Anyone with Younis Khan, Ajmal, Yasir Shah, Abdul Rehman and etc at their disposal would've remained unbeaten in the UAE. With a better captain we would've won more tests and dominated the likes of New Zealand and West Indies rather than losing games against those sides.

You've acknowledged Misbah was a terrible white ball captain and let me tell you he was also an awful skipper in red ball cricket as well. You seem to forget those leg side fields when Yasir was bowling during the 2016 Australia series. The captaincy from a tactical standpoint was so bad that Ian Chappell and the rest of the Aussie comm. box said couldn't hide their disgust. Going by their reaction alone, it was plain and clear for everyone to see that your hero was the worst captain in tests played in Australia. !

 

[James]

Have Pakistan missed him in this Test ?

 

[Kroll]

Have Pakistan missed him in this Test ?

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[ElRaja]

Azhar Ali can make life easier for everyone by retiring. This is what players from other countries who got the hint that they were no longer wanted by the selectors did i.e. Laxman, Dravid from India, Ian Bell from England, Damien Martyn from Australia.

Pakistani players in contrast insist on humiliation to the end.

i doubt it, unlike other players he doesn't really have the personality or fan following to have much of a media career after this, his demand in global leagues would be virtually zero, and one failed season of county and he's not getting that gig either.

 

[Jabo]

His time is over and rightly so

him and shafiq were 2 frauds protected by misbah for so long

 

[shamaan]

He will get dropped for the New Zealand series.

 

[Mamoon]

He was on the brink of becoming the worst specialist batsman in history to play 100 Tests. Just about avoided the record.

 

[shamaan]

I am glad that he has retired before getting dropped he has had a good career overall.Enjoy your retirement

 

[deems]

He was on the brink of becoming the worst specialist batsman in history to play 100 Tests. Just about avoided the record.

I agree.
He should have retired when he got the sack after the England series in 2019.

See this is why Pakistan is in the mess it's in now. There is absolutely no planning, when MisYou retired, there was no ready made replacement for them although Azhar and Shafiq were apparently there for that. The management obviously knew about the fast bowling resources or the lack of it. They didn't bother looking for replacement for Wahab,Junaid and Irfan who was never test match material.
So we spent 3 years lamenting the fact we had lost 2 of the best test players for Pak altogether and then we have issues for replacement of Azhar now and also the fact that we do not have any test level spin bowlers let alone the pacers.

I always read your comments and felt obliged to comment on them but for some reason I didn't. I misunderstood you initially thinking you don't make any sense. Now I know that, like me, maybe you want to see the best for Pak but just vent the frustration out in this way. However, I do agree with you that we are way behind in every term when compared to other decent international teams.

 

[Mamoon]

I agree.
He should have retired when he got the sack after the England series in 2019.

See this is why Pakistan is in the mess it's in now. There is absolutely no planning, when MisYou retired, there was no ready made replacement for them although Azhar and Shafiq were apparently there for that. The management obviously knew about the fast bowling resources or the lack of it. They didn't bother looking for replacement for Wahab,Junaid and Irfan who was never test match material.
So we spent 3 years lamenting the fact we had lost 2 of the best test players for Pak altogether and then we have issues for replacement of Azhar now and also the fact that we do not have any test level spin bowlers let alone the pacers.

I always read your comments and felt obliged to comment on them but for some reason I didn't. I misunderstood you initially thinking you don't make any sense. Now I know that, like me, maybe you want to see the best for Pak but just vent the frustration out in this way. However, I do agree with you that we are way behind in every term when compared to other decent international teams.

Pakistan cricket has a lot problems than people think. PCB & the fans have neglected these problems for years, or they thought things weren’t so bad or they have deluded themselves into thinking that they are good but the reality is that they are not.

When you live in your comfort zone, shy away from reality & pretend everything is okay, you don’t like it when people give you reality checks & this is why people have issues with what I say.

However, I have stopped caring because I really believe there will be change. We are an intellectually bankrupt nation. We are clueless about what our shortcomings are & how we can improve them.

I really do think Pakistan will never find a way to build a high performance environment & become a top class side in all formats. We will have our moments here & there & some fluke performances but we will remain a thoroughly mediocre side.

This is why I no longer feel any pain or disappointment when Pakistan loses. PCB & the fans deserve this mediocrity because of their mentality.

 

[moghul]

Glad he will not play in 100 tests , he was 30-40 test player, does not belong to elite class of 100 tests. We already have an unwanted "guest" in Ishant Sharma there, not another one .

 

[Savak]

Lets be clear here, it is very much likely that Ramiz, Babar, Saqlain, Mohd Wasim told him that he is now surplus to requirements

 

[Amjid Javed]

Lets be clear here, it is very much likely that Ramiz, Babar, Saqlain, Mohd Wasim told him that he is now surplus to requirements

Someone should also tell these 4 clowns that after this series they are also surplus to requirements as well.

 

[Kroll]

Another thread that backfired spectacularly, some posters need to quit while ahead and actually be aware of their surroundings.

 

[topspin]

Another thread that backfired spectacularly, some posters need to quit while ahead and actually be aware of their surroundings.

Couldn't agree more. This thread didn't age well.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Anyone know what time cake cutting ceremony is to celebrate Azhars masterful 4 ball duck.

 

[Kroll]

Just tuned into see he got a duck. What a way to bow out.

 

[Mamoon]

Another thread that backfired spectacularly, some posters need to quit while ahead and actually be aware of their surroundings.

Couldn't agree more. This thread didn't age well.

I am eagerly waiting for a “Shan Masood isn’t good enough thread”.
[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] please?

 

[Amjid Javed]

I am eagerly waiting for a “Shan Masood isn’t good enough thread”.

[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] please?

He's busy drying his tears after his hero let him down one last time.

 

[Bewal Express]

Thankfully it's over. Only in PK can such mediocrity be accepted as the norm.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I am eagerly waiting for a “Shan Masood isn’t good enough thread”.

[MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION] please?

This coming from the guy who said India has the best T20 bowling attack in the world, after which they got hammered for 168-0?

Yeah, you ain't got two feet to stand on.

As for the thread, I stand by most of what I said here. Azhar was a great servant for Pakistan cricket who always punched above his weight and scored tough runs despite his limited ability and obvious lack of talent. In a world where people only wait for the next great flash-in-the-plan talent it was refreshing to see a player that succeeded through sheer hardwork and determination.

It's a shame that he failed to live up to his potential and fell rapidly post 2016 and this year. But his contributions and service will be remembered for time to come. Regardless of what certain deluded fools here think.

Glad that he stepped away when his time was up instead of prolonging the inevitable or just waiting to hit 100 tests.

 

[as-95]

This coming from the guy who said India has the best T20 bowling attack in the world, after which they got hammered for 168-0?

Yeah, you ain't got two feet to stand on.

As for the thread, I stand by most of what I said here. Azhar was a great servant for Pakistan cricket who always punched above his weight and scored tough runs despite his limited ability and obvious lack of talent. In a world where people only wait for the next great flash-in-the-plan talent it was refreshing to see a player that succeeded through sheer hardwork and determination.

It's a shame that he failed to live up to his potential and fell rapidly post 2016 and this year. But his contributions and service will be remembered for time to come. Regardless of what certain deluded fools here think.

Glad that he stepped away when his time was up instead of prolonging the inevitable or just waiting to hit 100 tests.

Azhar was probably forced out and advised to step down with dignity and retire or be expelled from the side. His game was up. He had been mediocre for too long!

 

[YousafTheBeast]

This coming from the guy who said India has the best T20 bowling attack in the world, after which they got hammered for 168-0?

Yeah, you ain't got two feet to stand on.

As for the thread, I stand by most of what I said here. Azhar was a great servant for Pakistan cricket who always punched above his weight and scored tough runs despite his limited ability and obvious lack of talent. In a world where people only wait for the next great flash-in-the-plan talent it was refreshing to see a player that succeeded through sheer hardwork and determination.

It's a shame that he failed to live up to his potential and fell rapidly post 2016 and this year. But his contributions and service will be remembered for time to come. Regardless of what certain deluded fools here think.

Glad that he stepped away when his time was up instead of prolonging the inevitable or just waiting to hit 100 tests.

Basically the TLDR: “He was crap but thank you Ajju for your services…legend”.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

From being the backbone of the team that topped the rankings to a key member of a successful ICC title campaign.

From seeing off the new ball to scoring 100s, 200s and a 300.

Goodbye Azhar...one of finest test top order batters we ever produced.

 

[Amjid Javed]

From being the backbone of the team that topped the rankings to a key member of a successful ICC title campaign.

From seeing off the new ball to scoring 100s, 200s and a 300.

Goodbye Azhar...one of finest test top order batters we ever produced.

what delusion, spineless batsmen who went into hiding as soon as misbah and YK retired.

 

[James]

From being the backbone of the team that topped the rankings to a key member of a successful ICC title campaign.

From seeing off the new ball to scoring 100s, 200s and a 300.

Goodbye Azhar...<b>one of finest test top order batters we ever produced.</b>

Think this is a bit OTT.

 

[Mamoon]

This coming from the guy who said India has the best T20 bowling attack in the world, after which they got hammered for 168-0?

Yeah, you ain't got two feet to stand on.

As for the thread, I stand by most of what I said here. Azhar was a great servant for Pakistan cricket who always punched above his weight and scored tough runs despite his limited ability and obvious lack of talent. In a world where people only wait for the next great flash-in-the-plan talent it was refreshing to see a player that succeeded through sheer hardwork and determination.

It's a shame that he failed to live up to his potential and fell rapidly post 2016 and this year. But his contributions and service will be remembered for time to come. Regardless of what certain deluded fools here think.

Glad that he stepped away when his time was up instead of prolonging the inevitable or just waiting to hit 100 tests.

You stand by most of the drivel that you write, it doesn’t make you right, but carry on.

 

[The_KING]

Thank God, the torture is finally over.

 

[topspin]

From being the backbone of the team that topped the rankings to a key member of a successful ICC title campaign.

From seeing off the new ball to scoring 100s, 200s and a 300.

Goodbye Azhar...one of finest test top order batters we ever produced.

Maybe if he played for Bangladesh.

This is a fine example of what happens when you see cricket through the lens of Misbah.