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One of the astonishing victories in cricketing history.

When Desmond Haynes named the squad, it looked like one of the sorriest teams to ever tour Australia. Several senior players prioritised the T20 bag over this tour. If ever a series had a 2-0 whitewash written all over it...

WI FC system makes Pakistan's look like 90s Sheffield Shield. The batting averages are abysmal with 35 being the equivalent of 50, such are the standards.

WI facilities are have barely changed since the 90s. Their grounds are tired and dated, and are rarely filled by a WI public whose passion for cricket has dwindled. The costs of playing cricket are not even close to being recouped by their revenues with CWI paying more for flights than any board in the world.

Australia and West Indies used to fight tooth and nail in the 80s and 90s. Now they don't even exist in the same ecosystem.

Therefore despite all of that - to defeat the World Champions Australia, in their backyard, at the Gabba - ranks as one of the most joyful moments I've ever had as a cricket fan. I cannot believe this.
 
I'm someone who always hated the Windies and wished ICC strip them of their Test status but with today's win I can only wish them all the best because they indeed have the talent and character to win Test matches. I really loved the way they played in this Test.

If you put your heart and soul and take Test Cricket seriously than you can win and make an impact, something Pakistan can learn from the Windies.... unfortunately they won't.
 

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West Indies captain Kraigg Brathwaite during the presentation ceremony after winning the 2nd Test match:

“I'm extremely proud, I must say. We had two words, you know, that inspired us in this Test match.”

"Mr. Rodney Hogg said we were pathetic and hopeless. So that was our inspiration, we wanted to show the world we are not pathetic.

"And I must ask him, are these muscles big enough for him?"​
 
I saw a video of Carl Hooper in tears too.

Holder etc must be feeling sheepish.
 
Man!!! Must have felt top of the world. Defeating the world champs in their fortress and wining after 27 years against Australia. It really takes something special. Hopefully this is beginning of something beautiful for Windies.
 
WI Featured 7 players with less than 10 Tests under their belts in this match

T Chanderpaul - 9 Tests
Mckenzie - 2 Tests
Athanaze - 3 Tests
Kavem Hodge - 2 Tests
JGreaves - 1 Test
Sinclair - Debut
Shamar Joseph - 1 Test
 
Well deserved. This Australian batting has been shaky for a while. All the visiting teams need to do is to hold their nerves and they can win there.
 
The whole cricketing world loves it when West Indies Cricket does well.
The passion is there for the young lads.
Darren Sammy is turning out to be a good coach who is passionate about WI Cricket and is helping the players develop that passion too.
 
BouncerGuy said:

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West Indies captain Kraigg Brathwaite during the presentation ceremony after winning the 2nd Test match:

“I'm extremely proud, I must say. We had two words, you know, that inspired us in this Test match.”

"Mr. Rodney Hogg said we were pathetic and hopeless. So that was our inspiration, we wanted to show the world we are not pathetic.

"And I must ask him, are these muscles big enough for him?"​
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What a legendary interview!

“And I must ask him, are these muscles big enough for him?”

This match has to be one of the great moments in cricket in recent times.
 
What a Test series it has been! West Indies won the first Test on Australian soil since 1997. This time, I saw a new spark in the West Indies Test side. I believe West Indies Test cricket is undergoing a revival after fluke and T20 players have parted ways from the Test squad and central contract.
 
Rana said:
Congratulations West Indies

This hurts so much because Pakistan could have won at least one Test against Australia too
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Bro, Pakistani players just don't prioritize the longer format. The day they do they win surely win in Australia.
They have already started preparing for the T20 WC, but did they ever prepare for an Australian tour in advance?
 
greatest said:
Bro, Pakistani players just don't prioritize the longer format. The day they do they win surely win in Australia.
They have already started preparing for the T20 WC, but did they ever prepare for an Australian tour in advance?
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Well they are always preparing in advance by playing BazzBall Test cricket in white ball formats

But on a serious note, no. The entire nation is deprived of the essence of Test cricket. They glorify T20 so much. If you drop Babar from T20 in order for him to prioritise Test cricket, you may see riots like 9th May on the streets
 
Rana said:
I agree

If the dream is to only play white ball cricket for Pakistan, then sorry you can’t have a dream.
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Fully agreed. He's also a rubbish limited over too. Better to invest in someone else rather than him. At least the won't run away.
 
Rana said:
Well they are always preparing in advance by playing BazzBall Test cricket in white ball formats

But on a serious note, no. The entire nation is deprived of the essence of Test cricket. They glorify T20 so much. If you drop Babar from T20 in order for him to prioritise Test cricket, you may see riots like 9th May on the streets
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Yes, it's sad, but true!

Btw, the blame should also go to our legends like Wasim and Waqar who despite being in the media never pushed for the importance of winning Test matches. Especially Wasim, he always talks about the 1992 World Cup but hardly about the dozen Test matches he won for his country, like the Lords win in 1992 etc.
They both made a huge cry for Harris and later Shaheen for not playing at Sydney... pledging that Tests are the ultimate etc etc. But majority of the time both are glorifying T20 cricket and its leagues.
 
MenInG said:
Tears of joy for Lara

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Apparently he’s been actively involved this tour with the players trying to help them out every day.

But this video is also why I grew up loving to hate Australia, but also always admired them. Not only are they the greatest cricketing nation ever, they are also the greatest at cricket as a sport. Look at Gilly’s genuine excitement at something amazing that just happened in the sport he loves and excelled in. I can’t think of a single Indian cricketer being like this. The closest would possibly be Shastri.
 
PakEngFan said:
Fully agreed. He's also a rubbish limited over too. Better to invest in someone else rather than him. At least the won't run away.
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In Pakistan any bowler who takes cheap wickets in T20 we start glorifying him. I say just have a bowling machine bowl in T20 cricket, even this machine will end up taking wickets.
 
pillionrider said:
Apparently he’s been actively involved this tour with the players trying to help them out every day.

But this video is also why I grew up loving to hate Australia, but also always admired them. Not only are they the greatest cricketing nation ever, they are also the greatest at cricket as a sport. Look at Gilly’s genuine excitement at something amazing that just happened in the sport he loves and excelled in. I can’t think of a single Indian cricketer being like this. The closest would possibly be Shastri.
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Yeah the old Aussies were absolute p-s (5 letter word) when playing against but they had genuine respect for their competitors and the game of cricket outside of it.
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
Joseph played with a broken toe. It's taken a long time for Windies to shed their mercenaries.

Haris Rauf should never represent Pakistan again in any format
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Misguided comment. Haris Rauf cannot bowl with that level of accuracy for that long.

He can't even do it in T20's regularly, let alone over a 13 over spell.

Thats wishful thinking.
 
Incredible achievement, will go down as the story of the decade along with Sri Lanka's win in South Africa.
Thought that they would get blown apart 2-0, but they proved everyone wrong.
This spell by shamar is good as anything that Marshall and Ambrose ever did
 
BouncerGuy said:

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West Indies captain Kraigg Brathwaite during the presentation ceremony after winning the 2nd Test match:

“I'm extremely proud, I must say. We had two words, you know, that inspired us in this Test match.”

"Mr. Rodney Hogg said we were pathetic and hopeless. So that was our inspiration, we wanted to show the world we are not pathetic.

"And I must ask him, are these muscles big enough for him?"​
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Same thing happened when they won the T20 World Cup, when they wanted to show the world and rallied together to win the tournament.

Congratulations to WI team for this victory, but I feel nothing will change in their cricket.
 
Amazing achievement.

Pakistan cricket should look at this as inspiration but also as a self reflection.
 
In the bigger scheme of things it means little because the curve is heading southwards as their main season has gone and they can't play Feb to May anymore. But it's an amazing achievement to beat an Aussie team with ATG bowlers
 
Australian batting has been shaky recently.Pakistan can’t win against Australia due to lack of self belief and poor team selection.
 
When you consider all the external factors, probably a bigger achievement by West Indies than India winning the series there in 2021.

Having said that, this Australian team has had it coming for a long time. Pakistan should be absolutely gutted not to win a game or two on their recent tour.
 
Those Abdullah Shafique dropped catches hurt even more now…it’s like rubbing salt into the wound with a bit of vinegar.
 
MAGNIFICENT!

The Windies have HEART, they give talents like Shamar Joseph chances, they bowl and field with professionalism and they fight until the end.

We love this game!
 
Mesozoic said:
When you consider all the external factors, probably a bigger achievement by West Indies than India winning the series there in 2021.

Having said that, this Australian team has had it coming for a long time. Pakistan should be absolutely gutted not to win a game or two on their recent tour.
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They don’t even deserve a mention with their gutless and spineless efforts. Cricket can leave behind such a shameful team and corrupt country & administration in the dirt road behind them and embrace the new generation of the Windies. They can go on to do what our pathetic bunch of catch droppers and bottlers under pressure can only dream of.
 
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Saw this match live.. boy what a game! And what a bowler shamar Joseph is!! Wow he was spot on! One of the best spells in aus by a visiting team in a long long time that I can remember 👍
 
Show this to our bunch, show them what a single test victory means!

You can play all the T20 cricket you want, nothing beats a win like this.
 
Bewal Express said:
In the bigger scheme of things it means little because the curve is heading southwards as their main season has gone and they can't play Feb to May anymore. But it's an amazing achievement to beat an Aussie team with ATG bowlers
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Their curve was headed southwards from 1996 itself. It had little to do with what season they are playing.

In the current era , they have extreme costs and very little broadcast revenue which forces their athletes to either pursue other sports or focus on leagues.
 
Bewal Express said:
In the bigger scheme of things it means little because the curve is heading southwards as their main season has gone and they can't play Feb to May anymore. But it's an amazing achievement to beat an Aussie team with ATG bowlers
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Sad but true this . The WI team is not turning the page nor is their board. Wish I am proved totally wrong here though
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Their curve was headed southwards from 1996 itself. It had little to do with what season they are playing.

In the current era , they have extreme costs and very little broadcast revenue which forces their athletes to either pursue other sports or focus on leagues.
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That is true but when you main season is taken by the IPL initially and by others since, you can't recover. They will always produce talented guys but they need their own season and that isn't coming back. It doesn't help that the players have little care for Windies cricket. Sometimes I feel, we the traditional cricket lovers care more for Windies team than the likes of Hetmyer etc.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
The whole cricketing world loves it when West Indies Cricket does well.
The passion is there for the young lads.
Darren Sammy is turning out to be a good coach who is passionate about WI Cricket and is helping the players develop that passion too.
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CWI split the coaching about a year ago - so Sammy looks after the white-ball sides while Andre Coley is their Test coach.

Coley is a properly accredited coach with experience ranging from U19s, FC, CPL, A team and womens cricket to working as WI assistant coach for a long time before finally getting the big job.

Compare his coaching background to a certain Professor who was appointed for being an outspoken TV pundit.
 
Markhor said:
CWI split the coaching about a year ago - so Sammy looks after the white-ball sides while Andre Coley is their Test coach.

Coley is a properly accredited coach with experience ranging from U19s, FC, CPL, A team and womens cricket to working as WI assistant coach for a long time before finally getting the big job.

Compare his coaching background to a certain Professor who was appointed for being an outspoken TV pundit.
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Great for WI cricket.
 
Credit to everyone involved in West Indies cricket.

A fantastic performance and a tremendous win.

I just hope this is the start of a new era in West Indies cricket and hope that some of the stars of this win serve West Indies cricket for many years to come.
 
Congratualtions to them.
What a test match it was. Proper fast bowling by Alzari in the first inninfs and Shamar in the 2nd.
Great test innings by Steven Smith.
I am normally an aussi fan but was so happy WI winning that one. They deserved it.
 
Bewal Express said:
That is true but when you main season is taken by the IPL initially and by others since, you can't recover. They will always produce talented guys but they need their own season and that isn't coming back. It doesn't help that the players have little care for Windies cricket. Sometimes I feel, we the traditional cricket lovers care more for Windies team than the likes of Hetmyer etc.
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They couldn't recover for 12 years from 1996-2008 when the IPL started.

They have a terrible board , hardly any revenues and costs have only gone up thanks to technology.

Taking IPL out won't improve their cricket.

Even if you hold international cricket there in April, they will still make losses and massive losses if one of England , India don't tour

That is not going to change.

It's not like they honed their skills in international cricket in the past anyway. It was in county cricket and WSC.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
They couldn't recover for 12 years from 1996-2008 when the IPL started.

They have a terrible board , hardly any revenues and costs have only gone up thanks to technology.

Taking IPL out won't improve their cricket.

Even if you hold international cricket there in April, they will still make losses and massive losses if one of England , India don't tour

That is not going to change.

It's not like they honed their skills in international cricket in the past anyway. It was in county cricket and WSC.
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When you don't have a regular season,you don't get the TV or the sponsorship deals. Your point is fair about the Windies struggling in 1996-06 period but even in that period they beat an Ind team that included Tendulkar, Kumble, Dravid etc. But the Windies had lean periods in the 60s and by 1978, they were pretty much unbeatable for nearly 20 years. The difference now is that without a proper window they can't recover
 
Bewal Express said:
When you don't have a regular season,you don't get the TV or the sponsorship deals. Your point is fair about the Windies struggling in 1996-06 period but even in that period they beat an Ind team that included Tendulkar, Kumble, Dravid etc. But the Windies had lean periods in the 60s and by 1978, they were pretty much unbeatable for nearly 20 years. The difference now is that without a proper window they can't recover
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They have been terrible since 1995, other than that 1999 series against Australia. Got whitewashed again South Africa, Pakistan and Australia away and even lost a series against England after 31 years.
The rot had set in long before the IPL, except a few flukes here and there
 
Bewal Express said:
When you don't have a regular season,you don't get the TV or the sponsorship deals. Your point is fair about the Windies struggling in 1996-06 period but even in that period they beat an Ind team that included Tendulkar, Kumble, Dravid etc. But the Windies had lean periods in the 60s and by 1978, they were pretty much unbeatable for nearly 20 years. The difference now is that without a proper window they can't recover
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I have not seen any evidence for that.
Broadcast and sponsorship deals don't seem to factor that in the slightest.

Cricket no longer has off seasons anywhere in the World . They play whenever they can.

West Indies consistently started making losses since at least the year 2000 - the year Pakistan and Zimbabwe toured.

1999 was a surplus year because Australia toured and 1998 must have been too because England toured but I couldn't find anything before 1999.

But 2000, 2001, 2002 were all deficit years and they used to play in their home window itself.

This was despite the fact that cricket , Test cricket especially, was much cheaper to host back then without DRS in particular.

Even back then, only England and Australia brought profits to their board.

The board had cumulative losses of $16 million from 2000, 2001, 2002 - these years saw PAK, ZIM, IND, SA, NZ tour .

The next 2 years saw OZ and ENG tours and they saw a combined profit of $ 5.1 million .

And the profits were not enough to offset the losses from previous tours.

www.espncricinfo.com

The background to the dispute

Teddy Griffith explains the background to the player dispute in the Caribbean
www.espncricinfo.com www.espncricinfo.com


This was 19 years ago.


There is no turning the clock back . Cricket has become even more expensive to host and Test cricket is on its way out.

Franchise league money is the only reason there is any interest in the sport at all in the Caribbean..

The faster we all accept it, the better.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I have not seen any evidence for that.
Broadcast and sponsorship deals don't seem to factor that in the slightest.

Cricket no longer has off seasons anywhere in the World . They play whenever they can.

West Indies consistently started making losses since at least the year 2000 - the year Pakistan and Zimbabwe toured.

1999 was a surplus year because Australia toured and 1998 must have been too because England toured but I couldn't find anything before 1999.

But 2000, 2001, 2002 were all deficit years and they used to play in their home window itself.

This was despite the fact that cricket , Test cricket especially, was much cheaper to host back then without DRS in particular.

Even back then, only England and Australia brought profits to their board.

The board had cumulative losses of $16 million from 2000, 2001, 2002 - these years saw PAK, ZIM, IND, SA, NZ tour .

The next 2 years saw OZ and ENG tours and they saw a combined profit of $ 5.1 million .

And the profits were not enough to offset the losses from previous tours.

www.espncricinfo.com

The background to the dispute

Teddy Griffith explains the background to the player dispute in the Caribbean
www.espncricinfo.com www.espncricinfo.com


This was 19 years ago.


There is no turning the clock back . Cricket has become even more expensive to host and Test cricket is on its way out.

Franchise league money is the only reason there is any interest in the sport at all in the Caribbean..

The faster we all accept it, the better.
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Can't wi host a few low key tours like sl and bang without drs
 
Finally a well deserving team breaches the Gabba
 
Cricket West Indies congratulates its test team after securing a historic victory against Australia, marking the first since 1997. This remarkable achievement signals the relevance of West Indies cricket on the global test stage and underscores its unwavering commitment to excellence.

Dr. Kishore Shallow, President of Cricket West Indies, remarked "This victory is a testament to the indomitable spirit of West Indies cricket. It demonstrates our ability to rise above adversity and justly be among the world's cricketing elite. "

President Shallow continued, "Captain Kraigg Brathwaite's exemplary leadership has been instrumental in guiding our team through challenges and victories alike. His resilience, determination, and unwavering dedication to the cause have inspired this young team and every member of our cricketing fraternity."

Shamar Joseph was named Man of the Match and Man of the Series for his shattering wicket takings at the Gabba.

President Shallow stated, "The stellar performance of debutant Shamar Joseph is a shining example of the talent and potential within our ranks. His remarkable contribution underscores the depth of talent in West Indies cricket and bodes well for the future of our sport.”

As the Caribbean celebrates this historic accomplishment, Cricket West Indies extends its gratitude to its players, coaching staff, and support personnel for their tremendous efforts and hard work. In addition, heartfelt appreciation is offered to the loyal fans, stakeholders, and partners whose unwavering support continues to fuel West Indies cricket.

Cricket West Indies remains steadfast in its commitment to nurturing talent, fostering inclusivity, and upholding the rich legacy of West Indies cricket. Together, we embark on a new chapter filled with promise, excitement, and endless possibilities.

CWI
 
Pink-ball rematch for Australia, West Indies in play as Ambrose likens Joseph to iconic Marshall.Shamar Joseph’s pink-ball heroics have earned the highest praise from Curtly Ambrose and opened the possibility of a three-Test rematch between the West Indies and Australia next year.

Australia are due to play Tests in the Caribbean for the first time in a decade in 2025. The first day/night Test took place in Adelaide in December 2015, six months after the team, then led by Michael Clarke, played two matches in Dominica and Jamaica.

Three sources with knowledge of plans, speaking on condition of anonymity in order to speak freely, told this masthead that extending the series from two Test matches to three is now a live option after Joseph’s staggering display at the Gabba that delivered an eight-run win for Kraigg Brathwaite’s team – the West Indies’ first in Australia since 1997.

The third match of the series would be a pink-ball game played under lights in a friendlier time zone for television and streaming viewers in Australia.

National coach Andrew McDonald and Cricket Australia chief executive Nick Hockley have each expressed a recent preference for Test series to be played as a three-match minimum because two-game series often feel incomplete.

The sight of Pat Cummins’ team on the dais, having retained the Frank Worrell Trophy but with the series shared 1-1, lent a somewhat hollow air to proceedings after Joseph’s remarkable spell.

West Indian pace legend Ambrose, who helped identify Joseph on his way into the Test team, paralleled him with the late, great Malcolm Marshall – regarded as perhaps the greatest of all Caribbean quicks.

“He is a skiddy customer more in the mould of Malcolm Marshall,” Ambrose told The Daily Star in Dhaka. “So, I hope that he remains focused, humble and continues to learn his craft and tries to learn and improve every single day.

“I would like to see Shamar Joseph play a lot of red-ball cricket. He has just started his career, so he needs to learn and understand what it takes to become a world-class fast bowler, and then you can always branch out to ODIs or T20 cricket. But learn the art first, make sure he’s got a solid foundation and then he can branch out.

“He is the type of person who could go on to become a successful cricketer. He is certainly a huge find for West Indies cricket, and as long he can continue, I think he could be a force to be reckoned with in world cricket.”

One of the historical drawbacks of Caribbean cricket has been its time zone, with day matches played between the hours of midnight and 9am in Australia. But a day/night Test in the region could be played until around lunchtime here, offering a much more attractive prospect for broadcasters.

West Indies cricket has long been handicapped by the fact that the bilateral touring system is based largely on the broadcast value of home markets. In recent years, major Pay TV broadcasters, such as Foxtel, Sky in the UK and Star in India, have paid higher fees for home-market rights while being less aggressive in buying overseas rights.

In the Caribbean, where the domestic broadcast market has never been strong, overseas rights fees are a much larger portion of the West Indies’ revenue. Finding ways of making Caribbean series more attractive to different time zones is a key quest, as it would allow for the scheduling and playing of more Test cricket.

To date, West Indies have only played one pink-ball Test on home soil, a four-wicket loss to Sri Lanka in Barbados in 2018. CA’s chair Mike Baird and other cricket authorities are due to discuss the future of Test cricket at the next round of International Cricket Council meetings in March.

The 2025 tour will be Australia’s first assignment as part of the 2025-27 World Test Championship, with the team now needing to play some catch-up in the current cycle after dropping a home Test they were expected to win. Ambrose backed up Brathwaite’s post-match assertion that West Indies needed to be given more opportunities to play Test cricket.

“It does matter a lot as when the team travelled to Australia not many people gave them the chance to even compete, let alone winning a Test match,” Ambrose said. “We sent a team where we have seven or eight [seven] young players who never played Test match cricket.

“To me that was significant and that should do their confidence a world of good, and let’s hope they can build on this going forward. The only downside for West Indies is we are not playing enough Test cricket.

“If you see, we have played just a two-match Test series against Australia and I mean we need to play more Test match cricket. You need to believe that once West Indies starts winning Test matches against top teams, I think we might see West Indies playing more Test matches in future.”

www.theage.com.au

Pink-ball rematch for Australia, West Indies in play as Ambrose likens Joseph to iconic Marshall

Shamar Joseph’s pink-ball heroics have earned the highest praise from Curtly Ambrose and opened the possibility of a three-Test rematch between the West Indies and Australia next year
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