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[VIDEOS] "Ehtisham Sultan is ready to play for Pakistan" : Aaqib Javed

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Just watched Aqib's comments on Lahore Qalandar's Twitter regarding their recent tour of Australia. He said:

"Muhammad Irfan was greatest find of tour and thunders said they would have signed him if they saw him earlier "

"Ehtisham is ready for Pak and is closest thing to Muhammad Asif. He bowls at 140 plus with accuracy and swings new ball both ways. Only bowler in Pakistan with this quality"

"Saif Badar will play for Pakistan in a few years"

"Ghulam Rabbani was also very impressive"

"3 or 4 amongst these players will play for Pakistan in next 3/4 years"

Is Ehtisham Pakistan's answer to our new ball woes???
 
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How good is he ?

A couple of good bowlers will create good competition for Amir and Wahab , who have taken things for granted.
 
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The part that got me excited was when he compared him to Muhammad Asif. Not jumping onto the hype train but an Asif-like magician would be handy for the side at the moment.
 
Syed1 said:
The part that got me excited was when he compared him to Muhammad Asif. Not jumping onto the hype train but an Asif-like magician would be handy for the side at the moment.
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He's not an Asif type bowler. It's a poor comparison.
 
It's always hard to judge a bowler from t20s so I dunno how the heck Awib came with the asif comparison
 
Meh..looks malnourished and the batters he was bowling at looked like gully level cricketers. Unless he showed something in Oz , just by looking at the video I'm not too impressed..but having said that I would get him into a a camp and bowling at Misbah and co. if he does well get him in the squad. FC cricket will just mess him up..
 
the Great Khan said:
Meh..looks malnourished and the batters he was bowling at looked like gully level cricketers. Unless he showed something in Oz , just by looking at the video I'm not too impressed..but having said that I would get him into a a camp and bowling at Misbah and co. if he does well get him in the squad. FC cricket will just mess him up..
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He was LQ's best fast bowler on the Australia tour.

Apparently after the PSL the development squad go on to England to play county sides.
 
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Oh the lad from wapda. Ye he looks like a bishop clone. Need to get him in NCA and work on him
 
Damm Lahore have some talanted players. Looking forward to there development. Wouldn't judge the bowlers of t20s want to see them in the longer formats.
 
Hasn't even played first class cricket yet. Too early to say anything.
 
The kids biggest misfortune is that Aqib will change his action and destroy his career before it begin
 
Doesnt look too impressive to be honest , but Aqib must have seen something in him so lets see how he goes in his first FC season.
 
Mainul said:
Looked pretty average bowler.

Far far from being an Asif.
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BBL Academy Batsman couldn't lay bat on ball when this guy was bowling. Those academy sides featured players that have played for Australia A and their respective BBL sides.

How is he average? He's fairly quick, gets steep bounce and can swing the ball.
 
Reminds of Pedro Collins as he seems to be able to generate pace through his shoulders and unless he got strong shoulders he can be injury prone as his fitness levels are not looking good but if he can swing it both ways with this pace he will be successful.
 
not enough video footage but he seems more comparable to Abdul Razaq Than Asif. Bowls quite wide of crease and brings back th ball don't think if from that angel he can swing it out as well
 
Ellipsism said:
BBL Academy Batsman couldn't lay bat on ball when this guy was bowling. Those academy sides featured players that have played for Australia A and their respective BBL sides.

How is he average? He's fairly quick, gets steep bounce and can swing the ball.
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I saw his bowling video in the link given on this thread.Although only a few deliveries, he didn't impress me.I didn't see him bowling out swingers, he only bowled in swing deliveries in that video.He looked like at best another version of Ajit Agarkar of India.That's all, but not as like as a champion bowler like Asif.I still get a bit depressed when i think that i missed 5 years of Asif and it's continues.

Dude, international cricket is another level of cricket, far far superior and tougher than any level of cricket.I have seen many Pakistani bowler being tagged as next Wasim, next Shoib but ended up being inferior than Sourav Gangully the pacer.I don't get excited any more.
 
Mainul said:
I saw his bowling video in the link given on this thread.Although only a few deliveries, he didn't impress me.I didn't see him bowling out swingers, he only bowled in swing deliveries in that video.He looked like at best another version of Ajit Agarkar of India.That's all, but not as like as a champion bowler like Asif.I still get a bit depressed when i think that i missed 5 years of Asif and it's continues.

Dude, international cricket is another level of cricket, far far superior and tougher than any level of cricket.I have seen many Pakistani bowler being tagged as next Wasim, next Shoib but ended up being inferior than Sourav Gangully the pacer.I don't get excited any more.
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take a chill

first of all if you are that good to judge a bowler after 3 balls you watch him ball in video you should

consider a job as a selector in bcb

secondly he was bowling in t20 match the video was after the 14 over don,t know how you come to

conclusion that he cannot bowl out swinger because as far i knows you can ball out swinger with new ball

which he can and i see him doing that

lastly the video was before he was selected for Lahore qalandars squad for Aus tour so he will improve day

by day With professional coaches and will be very good prospect for pakistan in a year or 2
 
Didn't play a FC game. No fitness tests yet. Is that so easy to play for Pakistan. Aqib thinks ppl rate him as of the same class as Wasim waqar and IK. But in reality he isn't.
 
Not many people have Asif's cricketing brain, as it's not always about just swinging the ball. Replacing Asid is something Pakistan can't do, in my opinion.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
Didn't play a FC game. No fitness tests yet. Is that so easy to play for Pakistan. Aqib thinks ppl rate him as of the same class as Wasim waqar and IK. But in reality he isn't.
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Hilarious, I don't see anyone labelling Ehtisham as some up-coming great.

Aqib may have gone over board with that particular statement but Ehtisham has the potential to play for Pakistan.
 
Ehtisham Sultan - Finally a young Pakistani fast bowler to get excited about

Just as we were losing hope we finally see a guy with a strong action, good pace and good control. Inzi are you watching, he is worth investing in.
 
Bewal Express said:
Just as we were losing hope we finally see a guy with a strong action, good pace and good control. Inzi are you watching, he is worth investing in.
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Its too early to say anything but there is definitely thapar in him. He looks nippy, he got some movement initially, can bowl yorkers(he is tall about 6'2-6) and he has a very mean bouncer.

Bilal Shah Afridi and Irfanullah Shah are the other two to watch.
 
what are his speeds like? I couldnt see on the vid, although he seems to go too wide or too straight and at 21, he has played very little cricket. Why is that?
 
Didn't see but would just like to point out that the quality of cricket and opposition pedigree is negligible so please don't make any calls on the basis of results of this tournament
 
Called it, people blinded by stats would fail to see how special this guy is.
 
Great news. Question is why this guy was not selected in PSL? If we didn't have this T20 league he would have remained unknown playing domestic cricket and regress like Sohail Khan who made his debut past his prime age.
 
I felt his pace varied between 83 to 88. What I liked was the strong action and a bit of nip. And just to add the players he bowled weren't total numpties so, all in all some real potential.
 
Speedster777 said:
Great news. Question is why this guy was not selected in PSL? If we didn't have this T20 league he would have remained unknown playing domestic cricket and regress like Sohail Khan who made his debut past his prime age.
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He was with the squad.

They capped the limit of players from the LQ player development program in the squad to four; those four being Irfan Jnr, Saif Badar, Usman Qadir and Ghulam Mudassir.
 
Good to see a right-arm pacer with decent natural ability. Sick of seeing left-armers at this point. :rahat :zulfiqarb
 
Seen many promising ones like him in the past. They are only an injury away from never playing for the national side. Never heard off this guy at all.
 
lets see how he develops .. for fast bowlers i am more reserved

There was this guy Mohammad Rameez from Rawalpindi .. yeah a bit short in height but he was pacy, his deliveries used to skid, had a beautiful outswinger , played for Pak u-19 too and tipped for big things but then faded away :(
 
In the OP its stated that Aqib said that Ethisham swings the ball both ways, but to be honest I didnt see any movement in the air or off the seam.
Still a good prospect though and lets hope that he will continue to improve in sha Allah.
 
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One cannot force people to play. This is not the fault of system. Ehtisham himself chose the path of studies and He was doing Bachelors degree at Gomal/Malakand/Sarhad (don't remember exactly) University. He preferred studies which is was fine. Once LQ announced trials he suddenly went for trials.
 

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One cannot force people to play. This is not the fault of system. Ehtisham himself chose the path of studies and He was doing Bachelors degree at Gomal/Malakand/Sarhad (don't remember exactly) University. He preferred studies which is was fine. Once LQ announced trials he suddenly went for trials.
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I stand corrected
 
saeed5646 said:
who told you this??this is wrong info he is right arm fast bowler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qDmJ9tlGU4&t=25s listen what he say at 0:33
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Is he the one bowling in the clip @1:04, that ball was bowled at pretty decent pace?

PP should have someone that makes a biryani plate daily for Inzi, deliver it personally to him with a DVD of promising players clips to hand over as well...@MenInG can be the biryani cook :-)
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
But he is makinh the right news and his future seems bright. Must improve his fitness levels further.
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Is there an updated link of this Ehtisham Sultan guy's bowling, the YT one is not working any longer?
 
Monsee said:
Is there an updated link of this Ehtisham Sultan guy's bowling, the YT one is not working any longer?
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<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x5g0ggx" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5g0ggx_final-over-lahore-qalandars-vs-warwickshire-emirates-cup-fawad-rana-s-happiness-over-winning-the-mat_news" target="_blank">Final over, Lahore Qalandars VS Warwickshire...</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/TalkShows8" target="_blank">TalkShows8</a></i>


Chief & Ellipsism alot of work is needed on runup, follow through and fitness (off course)

Not getting the required momentum with this runup. If he works on these 3 things He will improve quite abit. Since there is No High performance Centre hence all work will ve on theory of Hit and trial. Which is ridiculous.


Monsee Bhaee good to see you PP.
An educated player will have benefits.
 
Thanks TalentSpotterPK bhai. This kid has some of the tools but needs more variations than just trying the short rising ball every other time. He is young, has pace, and can get stronger with time and hard work. Best of luck to him!
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x5g0ggx" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5g0ggx_final-over-lahore-qalandars-vs-warwickshire-emirates-cup-fawad-rana-s-happiness-over-winning-the-mat_news" target="_blank">Final over, Lahore Qalandars VS Warwickshire...</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/TalkShows8" target="_blank">TalkShows8</a></i>


Chief & Ellipsism alot of work is needed on runup, follow through and fitness (off course)

Not getting the required momentum with this runup. If he works on these 3 things He will improve quite abit. Since there is No High performance Centre hence all work will ve on theory of Hit and trial. Which is ridiculous.


Monsee Bhaee good to see you PP.
An educated player will have benefits.
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His footblock has improved quite a bit since in the last 6 months. The torso is still collapsing because he lacks core strength to uphold his torso and is not following through with his right leg after bracing. This is due to lack of mobility in the hips which makes it difficult to get his right leg to follow. You will notice that after bracing his legs just seem to stay there while the torso contracts to generate pace. Relying so much on contraction is the easiest way to injure your back.

He needs some technical work and strength work but has the raw ingredients. His extension at the crease is great but doesn't have the strength to hold it throughout his action.
 
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Chief Destroyer said:
His footblock has improved quite a bit since in the last 6 months. The torso is still collapsing because he lacks core strength to uphold his torso and is not following through with his right leg after bracing. This is due to lack of mobility in the hips which makes it difficult to get his right leg to follow. You will notice that after bracing his legs just seem to stay there while the torso contracts to generate pace. Relying so much on contraction is the easiest way to injure your back.

He needs some technical work and strength work but has the raw ingredients. His extension at the crease is great but doesn't have the strength to hold it throughout his action.
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Excellent Post. Can't be described better. His runup also needs rhythm. Shami's pace increased 5 kph when he implemented Shoaib's advice wrt Runup. Ehtesham doesn't have issue of wider steps like previous Shami and current Ehsan but he lacks flow and loses momentum at wrong time.


I am not sure but I think out of all it was Younis Khan who rated him and gave him his T20 debut for Abbotabad. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
Monsee said:
Thanks TalentSpotterPK bhai. This kid has some of the tools but needs more variations than just trying the short rising ball every other time. He is young, has pace, and can get stronger with time and hard work. Best of luck to him!
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Agree.


We lack CD as analysts and qualified bowling coaches, trainers and most importantly biomechanists/human movement experts. All these are housef usually in high performance centres. Aus, CSA, ECB, NZC all have multiple high performance centres. BCCI and BCB are getting there. We are nowhere.


In this day and age without technology you won't be anywhere. With Hit and trial I don't see us producing pre ban Amir, Imran, Waqar, Waseem, Zahid, Asif randomly.
 
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Chief Destroyer said:
His footblock has improved quite a bit since in the last 6 months. The torso is still collapsing because he lacks core strength to uphold his torso and is not following through with his right leg after bracing. This is due to lack of mobility in the hips which makes it difficult to get his right leg to follow. You will notice that after bracing his legs just seem to stay there while the torso contracts to generate pace. Relying so much on contraction is the easiest way to injure your back.

He needs some technical work and strength work but has the raw ingredients. His extension at the crease is great but doesn't have the strength to hold it throughout his action.
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TalentSpotterPk said:
Excellent Post. Can't be described better. His runup also needs rhythm. Shami's pace increased 5 kph when he implemented Shoaib's advice wrt Runup. Ehtesham doesn't have issue of wider steps like previous Shami and current Ehsan but he lacks flow and loses momentum at wrong time.


I am not sure but I think out of all it was Younis Khan who rated him and gave him his T20 debut for Abbotabad. Correct me if I am wrong.
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you guys have great technical knowledge. :o
should apply in some coaching/selection position :p
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Excellent Post. Can't be described better. His runup also needs rhythm. Shami's pace increased 5 kph when he implemented Shoaib's advice wrt Runup. Ehtesham doesn't have issue of wider steps like previous Shami and current Ehsan but he lacks flow and loses momentum at wrong time.


I am not sure but I think out of all it was Younis Khan who rated him and gave him his T20 debut for Abbotabad. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Irony of that advice from him is when Shoaib (himself) was being advised something similar i.e. to cut his runup down (by Woolmer/Inzi etc.), he kept refusing to do so. He was also told that this will not only help him bowl longer spells but also help him play for Pak for a longer period, yet to no avail!

We all saw in a side game or an ODI (can't remember the game where he did bowl with a short runup), he did bowl with a few paces runup and still generated lot of pace which rendered his excuses null 'Oh this will effect my pace, bowling etc.'

A few years later he did come around (after he was already retired) and said it would have helped him if he had listened to that advice:facepalm:
 
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Has the guy been signed by a team yet?
 
Ellipsism said:
[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION]

Has the guy been signed by a team yet?
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I am not aware of any such news but don't worry.

Aqib Javed has lots of contacts in PCB aswell as regions/departments. On the other hand Ehtisham is tall, fast medium, impressive plus part of a PSL 2nd most expensive franchise LQ. Ehtisham has played for Abbotabad aswell where Younis Khan was the one who gave him chance. So all this means that essentially He won't miss out domestic Cricket next season unless God forbid He is injured. Aqib also gets along very well with NCA head Mudassir so everything is in Ehtisham's favour.


Would update you incase I get any information.
 
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This is him bowling yesterday - picked up four wickets today so that video is next iA.
 
Impresses me each and every time I see him play. He's getting good movement too.

Needs to be playing PSL and domestic cricket ASAP.
 
Aqib is right here. I know little about technicalities of fast bowling but this kid is impressive. Pace, movement, bounce, strong action, hit good lengths and a good attitude for fast bowler. Can't believe he is not playing Quaid e Azam trophy.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Aqib is right here. I know little about technicalities of fast bowling but this kid is impressive. Pace, movement, bounce, strong action, hit good lengths and a good attitude for fast bowler. Can't believe he is not playing Quaid e Azam trophy.
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Exactly. Not sure what he is doing playing this tournament again. He was impressive in the first edition and that should have been enough.

If Aqib thinks Sultan is ready to play for Pakistan, then maybe he should back his words up with action and open the door to domestic cricket for him.
 
mak36 said:
Exactly. Not sure what he is doing playing this tournament again. He was impressive in the first edition and that should have been enough.

If Aqib thinks Sultan is ready to play for Pakistan, then maybe he should back his words up with action and open the door to domestic cricket for him.
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Yep Aqib should help him here. National Bank has a newish team and they can have him.
 
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This is him bowling yesterday - picked up four wickets today so that video is next iA.
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He need to improve his line...length looks good. BTW the wicket keeper look agile :)
 
Kid might be good but I always take Aqib Javed and his claims with a bucket of salt

Every six months he discovers someone new who is ready to play for Pakistan
 
Guys is he playing the FC season btw? What team
 
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