[VIDEOS] 'Ghar mein ghus ke maara': Kangana Ranaut applauds Javed Akhtar for slamming Pakistan over 26/11

[Hextro]

They are banned on paper and it happened in 1965. But i remember since 2000 bollywood movies are freely broadcasted on cable tv. I watched alot of Indian movies on cable tv.

Plus, even on netflix, its usually the bollywood movies that top trend in Pakistan.

Just cause you hanv't heard of him, doesnt mean Pakistanis all together dont know him

Banned means they're not available to the wider public in cinemas. You get fined if you play them in cinemas.

Around 0.1% of Pakistan's population has a Netflix subscription.

Don't trust me Major, but trust Gallup who says nearly 4 in 5 Pakistanis haven't watched a Bollywood movie over the past year. This report was published on October 1st, 2021.

Source - https://www.gallup.com.pk/post/32261

 

[Local.Dada]

Banned means they're not available to the wider public in cinemas. You get fined if you play them in cinemas.

Around 0.1% of Pakistan's population has a Netflix subscription.

Don't trust me Major, but trust Gallup who says nearly 4 in 5 Pakistanis haven't watched a Bollywood movie over the past year. This report was published on October 1st, 2021.

Source - https://www.gallup.com.pk/post/32261

Have you heard of a thing called YouTube? Forget Bollywood even Indian regional cinema (dubbed) is extremely popular in Pakistan based on numbers, comments or just general awareness.

Also what exactly are you trying to prove here?

Ok Pakistanis have 0 clue about Indian cinema or actors. Is that it?

 

[Hextro]

Err popular enough to be a chief guest for a festival honoring Pakistan’s great poet (ironically 98% of Indians don’t know this poets name).

Attended by some of Pakistanis elite.

Important enough to have enough diplomatic pull to get a visa in these sensitive times.

Pakistani elite represents less than 1% of the country. If they want to import 10 elephants I can guarantee you they will. Being imported by Pakistani elites isn't a display of popularity in the country, it merely means that some people wanted you to be there. Unless of course you the 1% represent the whole country in which case this argument is over.

Also why are you still asking me who Javed Akthar is? After this much back and forth you didn’t even care to google him or look him up on Wikipedia? I thought the ban was lifted on wiki.

This is exactly why I feel you are exception to the rule

You seem to be a massive fan of this guy as you keep hyping him up, so I thought it would be better to ask a fan of his than to google about him. He doesn't particularly strike me as an interesting person so no, I won't be Googling him.

 

[Hextro]

Have you heard of a thing called YouTube? Forget Bollywood even Indian regional cinema (dubbed) is extremely popular in Pakistan based on numbers, comments or just general awareness.

Also what exactly are you trying to prove here?

Ok Pakistanis have 0 clue about Indian cinema or actors. Is that it?

Argue with Gallup, not me.

 

[Local.Dada]

Pakistani elite represents less than 1% of the country. If they want to import 10 elephants I can guarantee you they will. Being imported by Pakistani elites isn't a display of popularity in the country, it merely means that some people wanted you to be there. Unless of course you the 1% represent the whole country in which case this argument is over.



You seem to be a massive fan of this guy as you keep hyping him up, so I thought it would be better to ask a fan of his than to google about him. He doesn't particularly strike me as an interesting person so no, I won't be Googling him.

While I am not a fan by any means. Far from it.Indians on this forum will vouch for it. I respect his body of work and skill though. My objection is with the forced ignorance on display. I think you are still struggling with that part.

 

[Hextro]

While I am not a fan by any means. Far from it.Indians on this forum will vouch for it. I respect his body of work and skill though. My objection is with the forced ignorance on display. I think you are still struggling with that part.

The only body of work I've seen from him is him complaining about Pakistan mistreating Indian celebs.

That hasn't made a great impression on me. You don't go into a host's house only to attempt to trash-talk them. That's considered bad manners in my house. A very old man like Javed Akhtar should know better. Hope the hype from his home country doesn't get to his head and he doesn't become the old man version of Kangana Ranaut. That would be a sad sight indeed.

 

[Local.Dada]

The only body of work I've seen from him is him complaining about Pakistan mistreating Indian celebs.

That hasn't made a great impression on me. You don't go into a host's house only to attempt to trash-talk them. That's considered bad manners in my house. A very old man like Javed Akhtar should know better. Hope the hype from his home country doesn't get to his head and he doesn't become the old man version of Kangana Ranaut. That would be a sad sight indeed.

) you know Kangana Raut but never heard of Javed Akthar

 

[Hextro]

) you know Kangana Raut but never heard of Javed Akthar

Hell yeah, I know of her. Every time she says something dumb it comes on Dawn. When I first heard of her I couldn't help the urge to up some of her gems. You guys produce the most unhinged celebs in the world but at least it's their stupidity is entertaining sometimes.

Being a meme suits Raut but it wouldn't look so good on an old man.

 

[Rajdeep]

Have you heard of a thing called YouTube? Forget Bollywood even Indian regional cinema (dubbed) is extremely popular in Pakistan based on numbers, comments or just general awareness.

Also what exactly are you trying to prove here?

Ok Pakistanis have 0 clue about Indian cinema or actors. Is that it?

Yes Bollywood and reginal cinemas dubbed in hindi are very popular there. There was a PCB video of Pak cricket team flying where Wahab Riyaz was watching 'Pati, Patni aur woh' in the flight.

Also, Naseem Shah in recent interview with Saj confirmed he is a fan of Tamil films.

Almost all Bollywood movies in UK theatres are filled with Pakistanis, Indians and Bangladeshis.

It is no secret that Bollywood/South Indian films are very popular in Indian sub-continent.

 

[Local.Dada]

Hell yeah, I know of her. Every time she says something dumb it comes on Dawn. When I first heard of her I couldn't help the urge to up some of her gems. You guys produce the most unhinged celebs in the world but at least it's their stupidity is entertaining sometimes.

Being a meme suits Raut but it wouldn't look so good on an old man.

Lol thanks for proving my point. You seem to have enough awareness of the memes and pop culture coming out from Bollywood via Kangana and other so called dumb celebs but you have never even come across Indias most popular film of all time Sholay and Indias only other Oscar nominated film Lagaan starring Amir Khan.

Maybe a successful and liberal Indian Muslim who usually has a strong anti-modi stance and is very vocal doesn’t suit your narrative. But still no way I buy anything you are saying. It’s just me. Let’s leave it at that. I do agree that not every Pakistani needs to know every Indian celebrity but something strongly tells me this is not that situation. I am known to have a pretty good “bee yes” detector which has helped me in my life. So I absolutely trust it.

 

[Hextro]

Lol thanks for proving my point. You seem to have enough awareness of the memes and pop culture coming out from Bollywood via Kangana and other so called dumb celebs but you have never even come across Indias most popular film of all time Sholay and Indias only other Oscar nominated film Lagaan starring Amir Khan.

I read Dawn, not Zee. I visit a Pakistani cricket forum, not an Indian one. I watch Hollywood movies, not Bolly ones.

If Raut says something dumb enough to show up in a Pakistani newspaper I'm gonna read about it. If Javed Akhtar didn't say something dumb enough to show up on a Pakistani cricket forum I would've never heard of him.

Say unhinged stuff = attention. That's how it works if you didn't know.

Looking at a meme is not the same as watching a movie. I've seen memes of Squid Game does that mean I know every major Korean production? As Imran Khan says "Absolutely Not".

Maybe a successful and liberal Indian Muslim who usually has a strong anti-modi stance and is very vocal doesn’t suit your narrative. But still no way I buy anything you are saying. It’s just me. Let’s leave it at that. I do agree that not every Pakistani needs to know every Indian celebrity but something strongly tells me this is not that situation. I am known to have a pretty good “bee yes” detector which has helped me in my life. So I absolutely trust it.

I have no narratives regarding Ind politics because I don't follow it.

I think I understand why you find it so hard to believe that I don't follow the stuff you follow. You as an Indian are on a Pakistani cricket forum and to some extent follow Pakistani politics so from your perspective you assume that a large portion of Pakistanis do the same. They may or may not do that but I can assure you I don't. If Indian content was permanently removed from the world I wouldn't be complaining. So recheck your B-S tracker because it's malfunctioning. Unless of course, you're sensing B-S from your side of the screen in which case your world renownd B-S sensor is working just fine.

 

[Rajdeep]

It is good to see Javed Akhtar calling spade a spade even though I am not a fan of him. When he mentioned 26/11, the silence in that room was deafening. It is a classic case of calling you out in front of the world.

 

[Major]

Banned means they're not available to the wider public in cinemas. You get fined if you play them in cinemas.

Around 0.1% of Pakistan's population has a Netflix subscription.

Don't trust me Major, but trust Gallup who says nearly 4 in 5 Pakistanis haven't watched a Bollywood movie over the past year. This report was published on October 1st, 2021.

Source - https://www.gallup.com.pk/post/32261

lol bro you are diggin a hole.

no need a gallup survey as i live here.

Bollywood movies are on the rife here. ANd people dont watch movis here in cinema, cinema is a an upper class thing now.

people watch it on cable tv.

Netflix passwords are shared around here.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

) you know Kangana Raut but never heard of Javed Akthar

Do you know Faiz Ahmad Faiz? Tell me honestly without googling it.

 

[Local.Dada]

Do you know Faiz Ahmad Faiz? Tell me honestly without googling it.

May be before last year I would have googled him. Now I know him from Kashmir files Maybe I don’t think you watched the above movie based on the survey posted by Hextro. As I said I don’t expect people to know Javed Akthar’s poetry but I would expect people with similar culture to know who he is from Bollywood movies.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

lol bro you are diggin a hole.

no need a gallup survey as i live here.

Bollywood movies are on the rife here. ANd people dont watch movis here in cinema, cinema is a an upper class thing now.

people watch it on cable tv.

Netflix passwords are shared around here.

Lol bro, you are digging a hole.

All that proves is that Pakistani public seems to be more open minded and welcoming of Indians than there counterparts across the border. I don't know why, you would think they would have got the message of hate by now, but seems like big hearts is just part of their DNA.

 

[Major]

Lol bro, you are digging a hole.

All that proves is that Pakistani public seems to be more open minded and welcoming of Indians than there counterparts across the border. I don't know why, you would think they would have got the message of hate by now, but seems like big hearts is just part of their DNA.

where did i say they got the message of hate? WHat are you trying to argue with me about?

So it shows pakistani public to be open minded so what? Arguing for the sake of arguing?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

where did i say they got the message of hate? WHat are you trying to argue with me about?

So it shows pakistani public to be open minded so what? Arguing for the sake of arguing?

What makes you think I am arguing with you? Just an observation based on your own words which seems to suggest that Pakistanis are very receptive of Indian content. These are your words not mine.

 

[Local.Dada]

What makes you think I am arguing with you? Just an observation based on your own words which seems to suggest that Pakistanis are very receptive of Indian content. These are your words not mine.

Curious. My apologies in advance if I misunderstood you but I swear remembering you say you had checked out some Bollywood movies especially starring the Khans back in the day. I mean if someone who is as British as it gets have some level of familiarity with Bollywood content you think the masses in the subcontinent that it is Bollywood’s target audience won’t be receptive to it.

So are you saying Pakistanis don’t watch Indian content.

Bollywood and even South Indian movies have a following in Afghanistan and you are saying Pakistanis don’t care.

Anyway we are digressing from the topic. I think Javed saab the brilliant poet that he is has worded this as beautifully and softly/Inoffensively as possible. Gotta give it to him. The audience got so caught up that they started clapping.

Apparently the same set of folk later condemned him( This part is open to verification but that’s what I heard.)

Love him or hate him the man’s a genius.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Curious. My apologies in advance if I misunderstood you but I swear remembering you say you had checked out some Bollywood movies especially starring the Khans back in the day. I mean if someone who is as British as it gets have some level of familiarity with Bollywood content you think the masses in the subcontinent that it is Bollywood’s target audience won’t be receptive to it.

So are you saying Pakistanis don’t watch Indian content.

Bollywood and even South Indian movies have a following in Afghanistan and you are saying Pakistanis don’t care.

Anyway we are digressing from the topic. I think Javed saab the brilliant poet that he is has worded this as beautifully and softly/Inoffensively as possible. Gotta give it to him. The audience got so caught up that they started clapping.

Apparently the same set of folk later condemned him( This part is open to verification but that’s what I heard.)

Love him or hate him the man’s a genius.

Both Indians and Pakistanis watch each other's content and there is nothing wrong in it.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Curious. My apologies in advance if I misunderstood you but I swear remembering you say you had checked out some Bollywood movies especially starring the Khans back in the day. I mean if someone who is as British as it gets have some level of familiarity with Bollywood content you think the masses in the subcontinent that it is Bollywood’s target audience won’t be receptive to it.

So are you saying Pakistanis don’t watch Indian content.

Bollywood and even South Indian movies have a following in Afghanistan and you are saying Pakistanis don’t care.

Anyway we are digressing from the topic. I think Javed saab the brilliant poet that he is has worded this as beautifully and softly/Inoffensively as possible. Gotta give it to him. The audience got so caught up that they started clapping.

Apparently the same set of folk later condemned him( This part is open to verification but that’s what I heard.)

Love him or hate him the man’s a genius.

That's exactly the opposite of what I'm saying.

 

[RexRex]

Lol bro, you are digging a hole.

All that proves is that Pakistani public seems to be more open minded and welcoming of Indians than there counterparts across the border. I don't know why, you would think they would have got the message of hate by now, but seems like big hearts is just part of their DNA.

Pakistanis love Bollywood more than Indians do. Your countrymen are starved of quality domestic content hence they seek guilty pleasures from abroad.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Both Indians and Pakistanis watch each other's content and there is nothing wrong in it.

Exactly. Unfortunately this is not what the politicians want to promote. Hard to imagine when the IPL was first inaugurated it featured Pakistan players, who did rather well iirc. Then we had the RSS come into power and by all means necessary the hyperbole and bans starting getting pumped to the masses.

This is all they are capable of, fear-mongering the masses because they are scared of losing their own relevance without it.

 

[Hextro]

lol bro you are diggin a hole.

no need a gallup survey as i live here.

Bollywood movies are on the rife here. ANd people dont watch movis here in cinema, cinema is a an upper class thing now.

people watch it on cable tv.

Netflix passwords are shared around here.

Cool, but I'll trust Gallup because they are quite a bit more authentic than any poster on this site, and that's a fact.

 

[Major]

Cool, but I'll trust Gallup because they are quite a bit more authentic than any poster on this site, and that's a fact.

not really. im telling you the ground realities. The fact that you yourself dont know even though you have th flag on your profile.

 

[Mirpuri Don]

not really. im telling you the ground realities. The fact that you yourself dont know even though you have th flag on your profile.

Gallup is a respected name when it comes to statistics, you'd think they know the very basic stuff in the field, that of taking representative samples.

Unless you know a good chunk of around 250 million individuals your comments are very weird.

 

[Local.Dada]

Gallup is a respected name when it comes to statistics, you'd think they know the very basic stuff in the field, that of taking representative samples.

Unless you know a good chunk of around 250 million individuals your comments are very weird.

I remember back in the early-mid 90’s we used to rent (probably) bootleg video cassettes of WWF PPV’s in India because back then it was not as readily available as it is now. Many people from
my generation grew up watching those shows via other means . However had these surveys existed back then those numbers wouldn’t show up.

If Indian content is banned in Pakistan that is via official TV Channels, cinema halls they are still available via YouTube/internet/ bootleg discs and even illegal satellite dishes. So that would render the parameters in that survey meaningless.

Do you really need a survey, I thought it was common sense Pakistanis watched Indian content. Also YouTube analytics etc are good indicators too unless raw is watching all those videos via VPN. Must be a great job to have.

 

[Mirpuri Don]

I remember back in the early-mid 90’s we used to rent (probably) bootleg video cassettes of WWF PPV’s in India because back then it was not as readily available as it is now. Many people from
my generation grew up watching those shows via other means . However had these surveys existed back then those numbers wouldn’t show up.

If Indian content is banned in Pakistan that is via official TV Channels, cinema halls they are still available via YouTube/internet/ bootleg discs and even illegal satellite dishes. So that would render the parameters in that survey meaningless.

Do you really need a survey, I thought it was common sense Pakistanis watched Indian content. Also YouTube analytics etc are good indicators too unless raw is watching all those videos via VPN. Must be a great job to have.

The Gallup poll doesn't say that Pakistanis don't watch Indian content, but that in the last year or so 4 out of 5 have not watched a Bollywood movie, and considering the question wasn't specific, I'd assume they mean they didn't watch it on YouTube, etc as well (not as if many Pakistanis used to watch Bollywood "legally", in the theatres, anyway.)

1 out of 5 did and considering Pakistan's population it means millions, so no one even said that "Pakistanis don't watch Indian content."

I myself watch Bollywood (and other Indian regional cinemas) but I don't know why such statistic would be surprising, the loss of interest in Bollywood movies (perhaps not Bolly songs for example) is pretty obvious, something I'd say has to do with the loss in form of the Khan's, but my social circle too isn't representative.

And this was my problem with [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] : someone presents statistics from one of the most respected organizations in the field but he kept coming back to his own social circle, as it was any representative of 250 or so million Pakistanis.

 

[Local.Dada]

The Gallup poll doesn't say that Pakistanis don't watch Indian content, but that in the last year or so 4 out of 5 have not watched a Bollywood movie, and considering the question wasn't specific, I'd assume they mean they didn't watch it on YouTube, etc as well (not as if many Pakistanis used to watch Bollywood "legally", in the theatres, anyway.)

1 out of 5 did and considering Pakistan's population it means millions, so no one even said that "Pakistanis don't watch Indian content."

I myself watch Bollywood (and other Indian regional cinemas) but I don't know why such statistic would be surprising, the loss of interest in Bollywood movies (perhaps not Bolly songs for example) is pretty obvious, something I'd say has to do with the loss in form of the Khan's, but my social circle too isn't representative.

And this was my problem with [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] : someone presents statistics from one of the most respected organizations in the field but he kept coming back to his own social circle, as it was any representative of 250 or so million Pakistanis.

Fair point. Well put

 

[Major]

Gallup is a respected name when it comes to statistics, you'd think they know the very basic stuff in the field, that of taking representative samples.

Unless you know a good chunk of around 250 million individuals your comments are very weird.

bro, i am a market researcher myself, and often there are alot of limitations towards research being conducted that isnt being shared.

Anyways, bollywood movies are broadcasted on cable tv in Pakistan.

 

[Hextro]

not really. im telling you the ground realities. The fact that you yourself dont know even though you have th flag on your profile.

How do you think Gallup comes up with its numbers? They ask people for their opinion and then they report their findings.

Gallup polls are based off of more ground reality than you can imagine.

The fact you even tried to insinuate that you're more credible than a fact-finding organisation is hilarious.

 

[saeedhk]

There should be no outrage over what Javed Akhtar said. He merely stated what our three-time ex-PM Nawaz Sharif has said time and again that Pakistan was behind 26/11 attacks. In 2016, ex-PM Nawaz Sharif courted controversy when he told the military leadership to abandon its support for terrorism in a meeting which later become to be known as 'Dawn Leaks' saga. We must admit that terror outfits run amok in Pakistan where they blatantly target police, army men, polio workers, schools, churches, hospitals and mosques.

Pakistanis need to keep in mind that the world is losing patience with Pakistan. Just a little while back, we were humiliated and put on the FATF register because of our misdeeds. The whole world knows that there are dozens of terror outfits in Pakistan and that the country is also a breeding ground for terror.

 

[Major]

How do you think Gallup comes up with its numbers? They ask people for their opinion and then they report their findings.

Gallup polls are based off of more ground reality than you can imagine.

The fact you even tried to insinuate that you're more credible than a fact-finding organisation is hilarious.

im telling you ground realities.

also research that gets done in Pakistan is always limited. I myself am a market researcher

 

[JaDed]

even though I am not a fan of him..

Javed Akhtar doesn’t give a rats tail if you aren’t a fan of him.

Even at this age in 5 mins he can think and write something that will become legendary.

 

[JaDed]

Javed Akhtar has always criticized governments, he even criticized feudal society of Pakistan in a Dawn interview long ago and asked why didn’t Pakistan do land reforms, he in no way means it in a negative sense towards the people but is directed at governments, one of the few people that are genuine in their criticism across and anything out of context might seem ridiculous.

His scripts/dialogues in 70s was against the dictatorial government and corruption and issues in society.

 

[PakLFC]

Javed Akhtar doesn’t give a rats tail if you aren’t a fan of him.

Even at this age in 5 mins he can think and write something that will become legendary.

No I don't think so. After Amitabh retired as lead hero Salim-Javed's career more or less ended. Also remember that Salim Khan did at least half off the work during the duo's glorious heyday. Just that Salim does not get the same credit because he doesn't feel the need for publicity. It is Javed Akhtar that loves being in the limelight from condemning all religions boasting about being an atheist to his comments on Pakistan. I remember Salim Khan blaming Javed Akhtar's argumentative attitude for the parting of their ways.

 

[pillionrider]

Also remember that Salim Khan did at least half off the work during the duo's glorious heyday. Just that Salim does not get the same credit because he doesn't feel the need for publicity.

Is that why Salim Khan has written so many great scripts after they parted

 

[PakLFC]

Is that why Salim Khan has written so many great scripts after they parted

Neither has Javed Akhtar done much other then run his mouth. Difference is Salim keeps his mouth shut coz in Salman Khan he has a superstar son who does the talking for him.

 

[PakLFC]

I have noticed how Javed Akhtar is always angry at everyone frothing at the mouth for no reason. It must be the happiness that comes with being an atheist. Even in India he always has an aggressive tone at everyone or when making a speech. The geezer badly needs to lighten up a bit

 

[gazza619]

I am not entirely sure what the fuss is all about here.

This is now ancient like story. There was absolutely no need for any reaction from the Pakistan’s side.

 

[pillionrider]

Neither has Javed Akhtar done much other then run his mouth. Difference is Salim keeps his mouth shut coz in Salman Khan he has a superstar son who does the talking for him.

Some impressive movies in there. Apart from the countless songs as a lyricist. I suspect, he enjoys that more, as he considers himself a poet first.

 

[Mirpuri Don]

Is that why Salim Khan has written so many great scripts after they parted

Salim Khan did the story/characterization, so the bulk of the actual screenwriting, while Akhtar did the dialogues, where he's not that outstanding (Kader Khan in the 80s/90s, Rajat Arora in the 2000s/2010s, ... are objectively all better.)

Javed Akhtar as a lyricist is slightly better but there too others tower him, especially Gulzar, and purely as a Urdu poet he wouldn't rank in the top 5 of his own family.

 

[pillionrider]

Salim Khan did the story/characterization, so the bulk of the actual screenwriting, while Akhtar did the dialogues, where he's not that outstanding (Kader Khan in the 80s/90s, Rajat Arora in the 2000s/2010s, ... are objectively all better.)

I'm not sure they've ever detailed how they worked and who did what, though it has been long rumored Salim came up with plot ideas and Javed embellished and worked on them. So I wouldn't call coming up with a plot, the bulk of the writing process, because a script is way, way more than just a plot and the duo were among the first to be professional about things and have a bound script.

In any case, the plots were hardly unique or original. It was how the characters in them went about doing the things they did, that gave rise to phenomena like the 'Angry young man'. [MENTION=142169]PakLFC[/MENTION], being an unhappy atheist here helped for sure

Regarding dialogues, not sure how you can call it 'not outstanding' with a straight face What are those legendary movies most remembered by, other than their dialogues?

 

[Hextro]

im telling you ground realities.

also research that gets done in Pakistan is always limited. I myself am a market researcher

Thanks for letting me know the ground realities. Might as well closedown every survey conducting org in Pakistan becuase Major on PP is a market researcher. Lucky us.

 

[Local.Dada]

Thanks for letting me know the ground realities. Might as well closedown every survey conducting org in Pakistan becuase Major on PP is a market researcher. Lucky us.

Looks like you are an out and out numbers and stats guy and use it to form every opinion. Good to know for future references.

 

[Major]

Thanks for letting me know the ground realities. Might as well closedown every survey conducting org in Pakistan becuase Major on PP is a market researcher. Lucky us.

if you live in pakistan, grab a remote and tune into cable tv.

thanks

 

[Hextro]

Looks like you are an out and out numbers and stats guy and use it to form every opinion. Good to know for future references.

Are you also a market researcher? If not than I'm afraid I can't take your opinion seriously.

You clearly don't know the ground realities.

 

[Hextro]

if you live in pakistan, grab a remote and tune into cable tv.

thanks

Can't argue with that. Absolutely genius.

 

[Local.Dada]

Are you also a market researcher? If not than I'm afraid I can't take your opinion seriously.

You clearly don't know the ground realities.

I don’t need to know the ground realities because every time I go on YouTube/Reddit/
Social media, there are Pakistanis obsessing about Indian content that at times even I am not familiar with. Every time I meet a Pakistani they want to talk about the latest Bollywood films.

It can’t be that these people are the 1% elite you speak about hanging out with Javed Akthar because they more or less look like they are from the same financial strata as me. No way I would be considered an 1% elite. Not even close

Your survey is pointless because who in Pakistan proudly proclaims they watch Indian content? It’s a taboo and it doesn’t account for all closeted fans. You are parading this because it fits your narrative and maybe you are one of those who thinks he is cooler because they consume foreign content. We have those types on our side too. Ground realities is totally different.

You lost me when you compared Indian content which is more or less similar culture and language to the average Pakistani to the popularity of Squid games and k-dramas. That told me everything I need to know.

 

[Hextro]

I don’t need to know the ground realities because every time I go on YouTube/Reddit/
Social media, there are Pakistanis obsessing about Indian content that at times even I am not familiar with. Every time I meet a Pakistani they want to talk about the latest Bollywood films.

It can’t be that these people are the 1% elite you speak about hanging out with Javed Akthar because they more or less look like they are from the same financial strata as me. No way I would be considered an 1% elite. Not even close

Your survey is pointless because who in Pakistan proudly proclaims they watch Indian content? It’s a taboo and it doesn’t account for all closeted fans. You are parading this because it fits your narrative and maybe you are one of those who thinks he is cooler because they consume foreign content. We have those types on our side too. Ground realities is totally different.

You lost me when you compared Indian content which is more or less similar culture and language to the average Pakistani to the popularity of Squid games and k-dramas. That told me everything I need to know.

Good to know that you were silently getting triggered while reading my comments on this thread.

Liking Bolly stuff isn't taboo in Pakistan, you just don't like the idea that Pakistanis are moving on from Imdian content due to higher quality global content now being available. The Ertugrul show being a small example of this phenomenon.

An Indian is mad because Pakistanis aren't watching Indian content as much as they used to, more at 12:00.

You can continue blabbering on pointlessly but just know that it won't change the facts.

 

[Local.Dada]

Pakistanis are moving on from Imdian content due to higher quality global content now being available. The Ertugrul show being a small example of this phenomenon.

An Indian is mad because Pakistanis aren't watching Indian content as much as they used to, more at 12:00.

.

Ertugul I can understand obviously but yeah I can totally imagine the Babar Azams and Ifthikar or Shadab Khans of the world totally into BTS, Lady Gaga,Metallica, Daft punk etc instead of the latest Indian Punjabi rap song or Bollywood chartbuster. I would love to see their recently watched or Spotify playlist

 

[Hextro]

Ertugul I can understand obviously but yeah I can totally imagine the Babar Azams and Ifthikar or Shadab Khans of the world totally into BTS, Lady Gaga,Metallica, Daft punk etc instead of the latest Indian Punjabi rap song or Bollywood chartbuster. I would love to see their recently watched or Spotify playlist

Pakistan's pop is over 220 mil. You can't begin to comprehend how diverse Pakistan is. The only way we can have a decent idea of what Pakistan's general population is interested in is through surveys. You don't even have to be literate to understand this concept, so I'm not sure why you're having such a hard time understanding it. Could it be your trademark bias seeping through? Blue tainted glasses perhaps?

Lastly, Idk why you're stuck up on the Korean part. If you weren't so triggered you would've been able to read my previous comments more clearly and understand that I never said Pakistanis watch tons of Korean entertainment. This whole Kpop argument is nothing more than a figment of your imagination.

 

[PakLFC]

I'm not sure they've ever detailed how they worked and who did what, though it has been long rumored Salim came up with plot ideas and Javed embellished and worked on them. So I wouldn't call coming up with a plot, the bulk of the writing process, because a script is way, way more than just a plot and the duo were among the first to be professional about things and have a bound script.

In any case, the plots were hardly unique or original. It was how the characters in them went about doing the things they did, that gave rise to phenomena like the 'Angry young man'. [MENTION=142169]PakLFC[/MENTION], being an unhappy atheist here helped for sure

Regarding dialogues, not sure how you can call it 'not outstanding' with a straight face What are those legendary movies most remembered by, other than their dialogues?

In every partnership all people are responsible for success and failure involved. You seem to be suggesting Javed did everything it seems?

What has being an atheist got to do with Javed's Bollywood career? Only thing is he always makes a song and dance about it.

 

[PakLFC]

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Some impressive movies in there. Apart from the countless songs as a lyricist. I suspect, he enjoys that more, as he considers himself a poet first.

What's your point?

 

[pillionrider]

In every partnership all people are responsible for success and failure involved. You seem to be suggesting Javed did everything it seems?

Nope, didn't say that. I was defending against claims by some of you trying to boost Salim Khan. The evidence has proven Javed Akhtar to be the more savvy and better writer. Which in turn suggests that he was the more important member of the partnership as far as writing went.

What has being an atheist got to do with Javed's Bollywood career? Only thing is he always makes a song and dance about it.

Well, you brought it up first

I have noticed how Javed Akhtar is always angry at everyone frothing at the mouth for no reason. It must be the happiness that comes with being an atheist.

What's your point?

What do you mean, what's my point. My point is you were talking no sense earlier...

Neither has Javed Akhtar done much other then run his mouth.

 

[PakLFC]

Nope, didn't say that. I was defending against claims by some of you trying to boost Salim Khan. The evidence has proven Javed Akhtar to be the more savvy and better writer. Which in turn suggests that he was the more important member of the partnership as far as writing went.




Well, you brought it up first






What do you mean, what's my point. My point is you were talking no sense earlier...

Where is the evidence proving Javed was the more influential?. Yes I did bring up Jved's atheism because he can't get over it

My point to reiterate againwwas Salim does not demand any credit for their now broken relationship.

 

[Mirpuri Don]

I'm not sure they've ever detailed how they worked and who did what, though it has been long rumored Salim came up with plot ideas and Javed embellished and worked on them. So I wouldn't call coming up with a plot, the bulk of the writing process, because a script is way, way more than just a plot and the duo were among the first to be professional about things and have a bound script.

In any case, the plots were hardly unique or original. It was how the characters in them went about doing the things they did, that gave rise to phenomena like the 'Angry young man'. [MENTION=142169]PakLFC[/MENTION], being an unhappy atheist here helped for sure

Regarding dialogues, not sure how you can call it 'not outstanding' with a straight face What are those legendary movies most remembered by, other than their dialogues?

First of all I wasn't saying Javed has no quality at all, if he shines in an industry as competitive as Bollywood he obviously has some redeeming qualities. I'm saying Salim Khan was the more essential block of that duo, and when it comes to him doing the actual screenplay + characterization steems from my reading on the subject.

As for dialogues Javed's are forgettable in the sense that they don't make the essence of the movie. For instance, without Kader Khan's dialogues, it's hard to imagine the '90s best comedy movies (Dhawan-Govinda types). Same way without Rajat Arora's "punchy/swaggy one-liners" you can't understand the modern Bollywood crime-mafia movie. Javed didn't have such influence.

I'm not "bashing" Javed because of his recent anti-Pak comments (he was always anti-Pak), I'm saying he's overrated for whatever reason, mainly because of his cosplay as a "public intellectual" who's the "moral consciousness of the nation", pontificating about values, humanism and whatnot to the "dumb" masses (both on the left and on the right by the way).

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Om Puri acted in a Pakistani film and appeared on a Pakistani show. Sargam featured a famous Indian musician, I don't remember which one. Jinnah 1998 film featured a renowned Indian actor I believe Shashi Kapoor or Raj Kapoor I don't remember the name. In early 2000s there were concerts of Indian musicians in Pakistan.
Indian artists are featured in Coke Studio as well.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I am not entirely sure what the fuss is all about here.

This is now ancient like story. There was absolutely no need for any reaction from the Pakistan’s side.

It's only a story because Pakistan is still allowing these dinosaurs to cross the border and try to revive their profile before they croak. Not sure why they are considered significant over there, but they must be since many Hindutvas are piping up in this thread to plug Bollywood's success in Pakistan.

Would be more productive if the craftily entrenched bots didn't chime in on every Pakistan/India thread for their own purposes.

 

[JaDed]

Om Puri acted in a Pakistani film and appeared on a Pakistani show. Sargam featured a famous Indian musician, I don't remember which one. Jinnah 1998 film featured a renowned Indian actor I believe Shashi Kapoor or Raj Kapoor I don't remember the name. In early 2000s there were concerts of Indian musicians in Pakistan.
Indian artists are featured in Coke Studio as well.

Shashi Kapoor.. he came out of retirement for that movie because irrespective of what it is majority early Bollywood personalities except Amitabh and Dharmendra had connection to Pakistan pre partition and kept the connection later too.

 

[JaDed]

First of all I wasn't saying Javed has no quality at all, if he shines in an industry as competitive as Bollywood he obviously has some redeeming qualities. I'm saying Salim Khan was the more essential block of that duo, and when it comes to him doing the actual screenplay + characterization steems from my reading on the subject.

As for dialogues Javed's are forgettable in the sense that they don't make the essence of the movie. For instance, without Kader Khan's dialogues, it's hard to imagine the '90s best comedy movies (Dhawan-Govinda types). Same way without Rajat Arora's "punchy/swaggy one-liners" you can't understand the modern Bollywood crime-mafia movie. Javed didn't have such influence.

I'm not "bashing" Javed because of his recent anti-Pak comments (he was always anti-Pak), I'm saying he's overrated for whatever reason, mainly because of his cosplay as a "public intellectual" who's the "moral consciousness of the nation", pontificating about values, humanism and whatnot to the "dumb" masses (both on the left and on the right by the way).

Just because Gulzar is better doesn’t mean Javed Akhtar is overrated , he wrote trendy movies aways, classic example is Mashal ,Lakshaya and Arjun all the three movies were remade and remixed so many times.

Javed Akhtar’s lyrics are also only second to Gulzar and that’s huge in itself.

Gulzar obviously was an amazing filmmaker and lyricist.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Shashi Kapoor.. he came out of retirement for that movie because irrespective of what it is majority early Bollywood personalities except Amitabh and Dharmendra had connection to Pakistan pre partition and kept the connection later too.

I read that he wanted to produce the film as well. Huge respect to the guy for making that move especially for a pakistani film about a pro pakistani leader. I can't imagine any Indian actor doing that now (a lot of that has to do with the political situation between the two). Om Puri was a respected actor in Hollywood as well. East is East and West is West are two brilliant films. He was also one personality who had no hesitation in starring in a pakistani film (even though it had a crappy script).

Regarding that film, I think it suffered from the lack of budget, production and marketing etc. The great Christopher Lee gave an enchanting performance of Jinnah in an otherwise disjointed and hurried film.
Would have liked to see a film about him on a scale similar to Gandhi (1982).
One admirable thing that they did with the film was they showed Gandhi in nothing but positive light. Something that was missing from Gandhi (1982) where Jinnah was portrayed as being a jealous person.

 

[MenInG]

Bollywood heartthrob Ranbir Kapoor is setting the record straight after lyricist Javed Akhtar's recent comments about Pakistan. The former was asked last year whether he would be willing to work on a Pakistani project. To this, Kapoor, while saying that art transcends borders, had shared he would be open to the idea of starring in a neighbouring country's project if it's a story worth telling.

However, the actor has now shared that his previous statement was 'misconstrued'. At a recent promotional event of his latest offering, Tu Jhoothi Main Makkar, Kapoor shared that he concurred with the query as he didn't want to make a controversial statement.

According to The Indian Express, the Tamasha actor said, “I think my statement was misconstrued. I had gone to a film festival and there were a lot of Pakistani filmmakers asking me this question, ‘If you’ve got a good subject would you do it?’ So, I didn’t want it to be controversial in any way.”

The actor added, “I don’t think itni bhi badi controversy hui. (It was not a big controversy) But, for me, films are films, and art is art. I have worked with Fawad (Khan) in Ae Dil Hai Mushkil. I have known a lot of artists from Pakistan. Rahat (Fateh Ali Khan) and Atif Aslam are such great singers who used to contribute to Hindi cinema. So, cinema is cinema. I don’t think cinema sees boundaries.”

However, Kapoor added that art is not bigger than one’s country. He concluded, “But, of course, you have to respect art but at the same time art is not bigger than your country. So, anybody who is not on good terms with your country, your first priority will always be your country.”

In a conversation with the fans and media at the GQ meet and greet, the Sanju star had opened up about working with his counterparts on this side of the border while congratulating the Pakistani film industry for producing record-breaking projects.

One attendee asked if Kapoor would work with Pakistani actors and filmmakers. Pakistani artists have been banned from working in India since 2016. “Art knows no borders and I definitely would. In fact, I would like to congratulate Pakistani cinema on the huge success of [The Legend of] Maula Jatt," he said.

Star-studded period film The Legend of Maula Jatt, which was released in October, recently became the highest-grossing Pakistani film of all time. Kapoor said he was a fan of popular Pakistani and Bollywood singer Atif Aslam. “When he sings, it’s like a hero's singing,” he said.

On the work front

Kapoor is currently busy promoting his rom-com, Tu Jhoothi Main Makkar, which also stars Shraddha Kapoor. The actor will next be seen as a gangster in Animal. Apart from these two offerings, Kapoor's name was also prominently featured as one of the many contenders to essay India's cricket legend, Saurav Ganguly in a biopic.

Talking about the same, Kapoor rubbished rumours of working in a Ganguly biopic but shared that he will play Bollywood veteran Kishore Kumar in a yet-to-be-titled film. “I think dada (Sourav Ganguly) is a living legend not just in India, but around the world. A biopic on him will be very special. Unfortunately, mujhe yeh film offer nahi huyi hai (I have not been offered this film). I think the makers at Luv Films are still writing the script.”

Kapoor went on to talk about being part of the biopic of Kumar, and shared, “I have been working on Kishore Kumar’s biopic for 11 years. We have been writing that with Anurag Basu and I’m hoping that it’s gonna be my next biopic. But so far I haven’t heard anything about the biopic being made on him. So, I don’t know.”

On daughter and fatherhood

At the same promotional event, the Rockstar actor also spoke about his newborn daughter, Raha. The actor also gave a glimpse of his fatherly side during the conversation as he revealed he is a ‘burping specialist’, adding, “She has just started smiling in the last two weeks. And seeing that smile breaks your heart. It feels like a new understanding of love.”

Kapoor then added, “This morning, even to get those 20 minutes with her before my flight, it just rejuvenates you. I miss her a lot, I keep seeing her photos” Ranbir went on to question a journalist, "Are you a father?" The reporter revealed he wasn't. “Okay! I wish that upon you because it’s truly the best feeling in the world,” the actor smiled. “It feels like a new understanding of love. You were asking me about the language of love, but the baby has no language. It’s a love you cannot describe,” he added

Express Tribune

 

[JaDed]

I read that he wanted to produce the film as well. Huge respect to the guy for making that move especially for a pakistani film about a pro pakistani leader. I can't imagine any Indian actor doing that now (a lot of that has to do with the political situation between the two). Om Puri was a respected actor in Hollywood as well. East is East and West is West are two brilliant films. He was also one personality who had no hesitation in starring in a pakistani film (even though it had a crappy script).

Regarding that film, I think it suffered from the lack of budget, production and marketing etc. The great Christopher Lee gave an enchanting performance of Jinnah in an otherwise disjointed and hurried film.
Would have liked to see a film about him on a scale similar to Gandhi (1982).
One admirable thing that they did with the film was they showed Gandhi in nothing but positive light. Something that was missing from Gandhi (1982) where Jinnah was portrayed as being a jealous person.

I liked the narrative of that movie it was very unique in a way, I watched it for Shashi and the Ali Azmat song which is criminally underrated among Pakistanis itself.

But on the movie overall it always felt like something was missing, and I agree on Gandhi the movie tbf Congress in India did well to sell him as well and you can see our Current government likes Mr.Jinnah better now and Gandhi is not promoted as much anymore.

Christopher Lee also called it his best or among the best performances he gave ,I think the idea was novel but execution lacked a lot, seems to be a constant case with big Pakistani movies same happened with Maula Jatt but atleast it got released.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I liked the narrative of that movie it was very unique in a way, I watched it for Shashi and the Ali Azmat song which is criminally underrated among Pakistanis itself.

But on the movie overall it always felt like something was missing, and I agree on Gandhi the movie tbf Congress in India did well to sell him as well and you can see our Current government likes Mr.Jinnah better now and Gandhi is not promoted as much anymore.

Christopher Lee also called it his best or among the best performances he gave ,I think the idea was novel but execution lacked a lot, seems to be a constant case with big Pakistani movies same happened with Maula Jatt but atleast it got released.

Didn't know the current Indian government liked Jinnah.

Pakistani cinema has never really taken off and they have been trying to go from 1 to 100 in one step which isn't going to happen.

 

[MenInG]

Javed Akhtar seems to have found himself an unlikely fan in the Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) chief, Raj Thackeray. The far-right Hindu leader, who was addressing a crowd in Mumbai on the occasion of Gudi Padwa, lauded the screenwriter.

During his speech, at the rally held at Dadar's Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj Park on Wednesday, Raj Thackeray said, “I want people like Javed Akhtar and many more. I want Indian Muslims who speak against Pakistan and tell them our power. Javed Akhtar does that and I want Muslims like him.”

This was in reference to Akhtar’s presence at the Faiz Festival in Lahore, which was held to honour the great writer, Faiz Ahmad Faiz. It was at this event that the wordsmith had stated, “The attackers weren’t from Norway, or from Egypt. They are still present in your country, so you should not be offended if an Indian complains about this.”

This comment, which essentially spoke about the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks, was also met with thunderous applause from the Pakistanis seated in the audience at the festival. Akhtar also made his displeasure known regarding the fact that while India has hosted many Pakistani artists in the past, Pakistan never hosted singer Lata Mangeshkar.

When questioned about the proceedings of the festival upon his return at an ABP event, the writer is quoted to have said, “It became too big, it feels embarrassing, feel like I should not go (for such events). When I came here, it felt as if I have won the third World War. The people and the media have so many reactions. I was embarrassed - what is it that I have said? We have to say as much. Should we remain silent?”

Furthermore, when asked about whether or not he was afraid to be vocal about how he felt in Pakistan, he added, “I make such controversial comments in the country where I was born and will die - why would I be scared in a country I was visiting for two days? I am not scared here, why would I be scared there?”

Express Tribune

 

[MenInG]

Wasim Akram in an interview:

Recently Javed Akhtar was in Lahore and he commented on the 26/11 attack. His words were taken very differently in India and Pakistan. What are your thoughts on it Wasim?

Wasim Akram: I would not like to comment on political subjects as I am here to promote my film. If I was invited to another country I would find positive things to say about it.

 

[FearlessRoar]

This clown has stepped into the world of politics.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1772246331727188302

 

[Rajdeep]

This clown has stepped into the world of politics.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1772246331727188302

If Yusuf Pathan can join politics, why can't Kangana?

Why that makes her a clown?

What am I missing??

 

[Stewie]

She is a war mongering bitter individual. The filth that comes out of her mouth regarding Pakistan, most of it is childish animosity. It always seemed like she was angling for a political career. Good for her, I guess. Will probably be great for the party, seems to be full of actors.

 

[FearlessRoar]

If Yusuf Pathan can join politics, why can't Kangana?

Why that makes her a clown?

What am I missing??

You can ask the Congress party.

 

[Rajdeep]

You can ask the Congress party.

Hey, I just did. But guess what, Congress leaders responded with the below derogatory tweets on a woman

https://twitter.com/x/status/1772250393869009163

However, when people questioned them, they deleted those tweets and said their accounts were hacked. The funny thing is, their apology statement is same as if copied from headquarters.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1772252028351180857

It looks like Congress workers think every Indian has got IQ of Rahul Gandhi.

This is the same congress mind you whose crown princess is dynast Priyankaa Gandhi Vadra whose tag line is 'Ladki hoon...ladh sakti hoon'.

 

[Rajdeep]

@Red-Indian - what is your opinion on the comments by Congress leaders on an innocent young woman like Kangana?

I don't expect my friend @pillionrider to show up on this thread but want to get your viewpoint as you are pretty opinionated.

 

[Red-Indian]

@Red-Indian - what is your opinion on the comments by Congress leaders on an innocent young woman like Kangana?

I don't expect my friend @pillionrider to show up on this thread but want to get your viewpoint as you are pretty opinionated.

Not sure what opinion you expect me to have on the typical misogynistic from the idiot politicians who go around pretending to be leaders in our country.

 

[MP2011]

She is a war mongering bitter individual. The filth that comes out of her mouth regarding Pakistan, most of it is childish animosity. It always seemed like she was angling for a political career. Good for her, I guess. Will probably be great for the party, seems to be full of actors.

Makes her totally fit to be a sanghi candidate then.

 

[MP2011]

In any case, she has been a dud actress for years now, with producers who bet their money on her being lost with alarming regularity.

Politics was always going to be her last refuge and who better than sanghi camp to give this filthy creature ticket to politics?

 

[MP2011]

As for Kangana being called vulgar names by Congressis, that's really obnoxious of them. One can't expect anything better from Congressis.

However, look at what Kangana herself had to say about 2 other women,

Urmila is a soft porn star. She is not known for her acting for sure, what is she known for? For doing soft porn right.


In 2021, she also took a dig at pop star Rihanna, after the latter took a stand for protesting farmers in Punjab. Re-sharing a clip of Sikh-Canadian politician Jagmeet Singh Jimmy Dhaliwal, she went on to call him a ‘’terrorist” who sponsored terror activities in India. She also called Rihanna a “porn singer.”

 

[MP2011]

So this lady should be the last one to lecture anyone about respecting women.

 

[MP2011]

Here is more about Kangana's other transgressions about women


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‘Gold Digger’! After Sushant Singh Rajput’s Father Files FIR, Kangana Ranaut Takes Dig At Rhea Chakraborty​

Sushant Singh Rajput’s death has taken a new turn after actor’s father KK Singh made some shocking allegations against son’s girlfriend Rhea Chakraborty. Now, actor Kangana Ranaut took to Twitter to take a dig at the Jalebi actor and called her a ‘gold digger’. She further questioned about her connection with the ‘suicide gang’.

She tweeted, “Sure Rhea is a gold digger but Sushant was her only source of income, after his murder she rushed to meet Akhtars, why? Does she have valid reasons to kill Sushant? Or did the mafia use her? Is suicide gang making her the scapegoat now? #JusticeforSushantSingh Rajput. (sic)”

She also tweeted, “SSR’s family said @MumbaiPolice @CMOMaharashtra trying to protect the criminals,since when struggling actor Rhea became so powerful that she hired Sanjay Dutt & Salman Khan’s lawyer & controlling law & order Face with tears of joy#Dhara302forSSRCulprits.”

On the other hand, Ankita Lokhande took to Instagram to share a post that reads ‘Truth wins’.

Meanwhile, Patna Police has reached Mumbai to investigate the new details of the suicide case. They have asked Mumbai Police to hand over the case diaries of Sushant’s suicide case along with the case file of actor’s former manager Disha Salian.

On Wednesday, Rhea’s lawyer Satish Maneshinde said his client has electronically filed a petition in Supreme Court, seeking transfer of investigation from Patna to Mumbai, where investigation in connection with the actor’s death is already in progress.

Sushant’s father KK Singh had filed the FIR at Patna’s Rajiv Nagar police station, accusing six people, including Rhea Chakraborty, for abetment to suicide in his complaint. Rhea’s co-accused include her father Indrajit Chakraborty, mother Sandhya Chakraborty and brother Shauvik Chakraborty.

The Bihar Police team, which has arrived in Mumbai to probe the death of Sushant Singh Rajput following an FIR by his father, has recorded the statement of Meetu Singh, sister of the late actor.

Meetu Singh’s statement was recorded at a private residence in Versova. The same team has also reportedly visited Sushant’s girlfriend Rhea Chakraborty’s residence in Mumbai but the actress was missing from her home at the time. As per sources, the police met Meetu Singh after she left the Mumbai crime office.

The followed up tweet reads, “Aisa kyun lagta hai ki @MumbaiPolice police Rhea ke papa ki hai? Ya papa Jo ki hai ?”

'Gold Digger'! After Sushant Singh Rajput's Father Files FIR, Kangana Ranaut Takes Dig at Rhea Chakraborty

Kangana Ranaut Calls Rhea Chakraborty a 'Gold Digger' in Her Latest Tweet.

www.india.com

 

[Hextro]

It's been some time since I've encountered these personalities. It's rather reassuring to see that Ranaut hasn't changed a bit, even in her late 30s—still as outspoken as ever. Let's hope Javed has refined his manners, unlike his talkative and embarrassing counterpart. Although, considering his past conduct in his older years, it's doubtful he has the capacity for change anymore. What a pity.