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[VIDEOS] How good really is Saif Badar?

He strikes me as someone who will be a late bloomer. He’ll only begin racking up the runs in domestics when he develops a strong temperament in a few years, otherwise he does have the talent.

Hopefully you are right. With less teams now, he will need to do it sooner rather than later, otherwise he may find himself struggling to make the 2nd XI in the future if he doesn't take his chances.
 
Batting beautifully right now.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] would be proud.

47* on a day 4 pitch trying to save the game.

Needs a 100 though.
 
Making a big claim.

But out of all youngsters, Saif Badar is the BEST player of spin.

Better than Abdullah Shafique.

Azam Khan is a better hitter against spin, but Saif's defence against spin is best.
 
Everything so far suggests he's a mental midget. Hope he proves me wrong

Are you okay?

He literally is the only young bat who performs under pressure, and is the opposite of a mental midget. Infact, he needs to be like Asad Shafiq who performs when nothing is to gain

He was man of the match in 2018 national t20 final

Man of the match in 2019 semi final vs India Emerging team

How can a mental midget perform then?
 
Battling it out to save the match, probably Southern Punjab’s last hope. If the match is lost, these will end up becoming soft runs. Can he pull it off?
 
Are you okay?

He literally is the only young bat who performs under pressure, and is the opposite of a mental midget. Infact, he needs to be like Asad Shafiq who performs when nothing is to gain

He was man of the match in 2018 national t20 final

Man of the match in 2019 semi final vs India Emerging team

How can a mental midget perform then?

Interesting analysis, it’s interesting because Saif does step up in tough situations which shows he has a good head on his shoulders, and visually you can tell he’s a good player, he just fails to rack up end-of-season stats, as well as fails in the 2-3 games that take place right before big selection decisions for the national team (like the Zimbabwe/New Zealand selections). I hope he turns that around otherwise sometimes he feels a burden on the current team.
 
Seriously, this guy is in the top 3 young batsmen in Pakistan.

My order:

Abdullah Shafique

Saud Shakeel

Saif Badar.
 
Hope [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] is watching this innings.

He's finally proving he can bat time.

Even in his last game, he scored a crucial 37 which helped SP to win.
 
Interesting analysis, it’s interesting because Saif does step up in tough situations which shows he has a good head on his shoulders, and visually you can tell he’s a good player, he just fails to rack up end-of-season stats, as well as fails in the 2-3 games that take place right before big selection decisions for the national team (like the Zimbabwe/New Zealand selections). I hope he turns that around otherwise sometimes he feels a burden on the current team.

Yeah he needs to do more.

But he's been treated so bad.

He's been part of the PSL for 30 games.

He's played 4 innings out of 30 games.
 
70* off 100 balls to save the game on a day 4 pitch.

Brilliant innings.

Played cover drives, pull shots etc etc
 
Southern Punjab’s Saif Badar scored a fluent 70 not out from 100 balls and he registered his career’s second half-century at this level. The right-handed batsman crunched nine fours and a six.
 
He needs to score alot of runs to be considered for selection with his talent he should have been in and around the Pakistan squad
 
Just saw highlights of day 4 between Sindh and South Punjab. This lad has so much class and power. Big and strong as well. Looked amazing in his 70*


I wonder why he isn't able to score consistently. His drives are hella classy.
 
Just saw highlights of day 4 between Sindh and South Punjab. This lad has so much class and power. Big and strong as well. Looked amazing in his 70*


I wonder why he isn't able to score consistently. His drives are hella classy.

too hasty like chota akmal
 
Hope [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] is watching this innings.

He's finally proving he can bat time.

Even in his last game, he scored a crucial 37 which helped SP to win.


I didn't, but 70 of 100 balls under pressure is praise worthy and he scored like 60% runs from boundary which tells about his shot making ability.
 
There are quite a few players that are soft dismisssal merchants and from what I have seen, he is one of those. He has something but will never go anywhere unless he stops accepting 30s and 40s as success. We will be talking about him in 4 years time as the nearly man.
 
Making a big claim.

But out of all youngsters, Saif Badar is the BEST player of spin.

Better than Abdullah Shafique.

Azam Khan is a better hitter against spin, but Saif's defence against spin is best.

Saif is decent, but Saud is by far the best young batsman against spinners.
 
One good innings and look at the claims. Not to mention, Shahnawaz had him nicking off to slips in the same manner as his first innings, only for Saud to drop the catch. Feel like he has the talent but apart for a few good shots he gives the bowler a chance to take his wicket more often than not. And Haidar Ali has looked like the best player of spin to me. Smacks them to all parts of the ground, rotates the strike easily and never gets deceived.
 
I didn't, but 70 of 100 balls under pressure is praise worthy and he scored like 60% runs from boundary which tells about his shot making ability.

Can hit a spinner from within his crease for huge sixes. Real talent.

Plays spin brilliantly. Probably best out of the young lot.
 
One good innings and look at the claims. Not to mention, Shahnawaz had him nicking off to slips in the same manner as his first innings, only for Saud to drop the catch. Feel like he has the talent but apart for a few good shots he gives the bowler a chance to take his wicket more often than not. And Haidar Ali has looked like the best player of spin to me. Smacks them to all parts of the ground, rotates the strike easily and never gets deceived.
Haider can hit sixes against spin but that’s it. He is much better against pace. He rotated spinners easily because it is easy in T20s.

Abdullah, Saif and Saud are better players of spin, but Haider is definitely the best striker out of them.
Saud can't hit big against them though.

Saif is better vs spin.

Saud better overall.
You said he has the best defense which isn’t true.

But he can hit big he reminds me of Sohaib Maqsood
 
Haider can hit sixes against spin but that’s it. He is much better against pace. He rotated spinners easily because it is easy in T20s.

Abdullah, Saif and Saud are better players of spin, but Haider is definitely the best striker out of them.

You said he has the best defense which isn’t true.

But he can hit big he reminds me of Sohaib Maqsood

Yeah I think he has a better defence than Saud. Saud better at rotating strike though.

And Saud is better against pace
 
I think he never gets to bat at one position consistently.
Infact he rarely gets to play consecutive matches. :facepalm

Yeh if I'm not mistaken he was in the same u19 batch as Zeeshan Malik and Shadab and yesterday was just his second fifty. This is just wrong.

A glimmer of hope that new system is beginning to work and younger talent are getting more opportunities.
 
Yeah let's not go all crazy, he's already 22 years old and doesn't average higher than 30 in any format.
 
Even in the national cup he was up and down the line up and out of the line up to sometimes

He had to score some 18 or 20 odd runs in the last over against who bowled all of his bowls to him as full tosses and he couldn't put any away. SO much for being the best player of spin. Anwar Ali would have won them the match
 
He had to score some 18 or 20 odd runs in the last over against who bowled all of his bowls to him as full tosses and he couldn't put any away. SO much for being the best player of spin. Anwar Ali would have won them the match

18 runs is alot of runs alot of runs players would struggle to get that even if it is toll tosses.who was bowling against him ?
 
18 runs is alot of runs alot of runs players would struggle to get that even if it is toll tosses.who was bowling against him ?

It was Muhammad Haffez, All of the balls were full tosses at good hittable height. Even if he did not win the match he should have been able to put away at least 2 of the deliveries.
 
It was Muhammad Haffez, All of the balls were full tosses at good hittable height. Even if he did not win the match he should have been able to put away at least 2 of the deliveries.

Oh fair enough he should have atleast put away 2 deliveries
 
And back to the usual for him today. Needs consistent performances to justify the hype here.
 
These low scores in the 1st innings from him and Saud( although he did score 170 recently) are keeping them from kicking on. Matches are won and lost in the 1st innings
 
Scores 63 for Southern Punjab in the second innings when they needed a quick score to force a result

Was out to a ball that rolled and his foot after pitching in the middle of the wicket

He's finally found his feet in first-class.
 
Now averaging 28 in first-class cricket

It's not good, but by the end of the season, I hope it will be around 37-40.
 
He has not been handled well by PCB at all. He is a true talent and should be worked with properly and given extra attention as a genuine future prospect. I dont say this about everyone.
 
Averaging over 50 in this season's QeA Trophy with 2 50s.

Probably needs a hundred or 2 to impress further.
 
Worst treated cricketer I've seen in years.

I like him but why are you saying he has been mistreated?
With a FC average of around 20 at the start of the season he was the most well treated youngster to be given a midle order (4th/5th) batting position in FC and not 2nd XI's.

Do you personally know him?
 
if he was playing for any other nation, he would have played atleast 15-20 tests by now....

its a disgrace that we have played likes of Asad, Azhar, Ahmad Shahzad , akmal brothers and many more in domestic games and he doesnt get a game...

for me the BEST of the lot ... had he got the same exposure Haider Ali got, he could have been a well settled part of the team
 
I like him but why are you saying he has been mistreated?
With a FC average of around 20 at the start of the season he was the most well treated youngster to be given a midle order (4th/5th) batting position in FC and not 2nd XI's.

Do you personally know him?

Looks as if you haven't followed his career over the years. 20 average is irrelevant atm because as recently as last season, Saif Badar was batting at number 8 in FC with bowlers and ARs batting ahead of him. And he never got consistent run of matches. This was also the norm for him in t20s also.

Still waiting for him to play full season at #4/5.
 
Looks as if you haven't followed his career over the years. 20 average is irrelevant atm because as recently as last season, Saif Badar was batting at number 8 in FC with bowlers and ARs batting ahead of him. And he never got consistent run of matches. This was also the norm for him in t20s also.

Still waiting for him to play full season at #4/5.

Whats his average when batting at 4/5
 
Funny how when he finally gets a few games in succession he scores runs
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] another player you will like.
 
I think this is the first season when he is batting at 4/5 in successive matches.

Usually he gets a game, then dropped for 5 games, then one game out of position, then back. Then the season ends. Then he gets a game in a T20 batting at 7. Then dropped for 3. Then brought back to play at 7 again. And so on.
 
This guy has a lot of ability, but just hasn't strung any scores together.
If he gets his game together, he should very easily find a spot in the national squad.
[MENTION=29901]Thunderbolt[/MENTION], suddenly, there are so many promising batsmen coming up, MashaAllah. Can you recall how dire the situation was just a couple of years ago, let along during the Misbah era?
Heck, we tried slotting in guys like Bilal Asif and Sahibzada Farhan because of how desperate we were in finding a batsman who could play according to modern LOI standards.
 
This guy has a lot of ability, but just hasn't strung any scores together.
If he gets his game together, he should very easily find a spot in the national squad.

[MENTION=29901]Thunderbolt[/MENTION], suddenly, there are so many promising batsmen coming up, MashaAllah. Can you recall how dire the situation was just a couple of years ago, let along during the Misbah era?
Heck, we tried slotting in guys like Bilal Asif and Sahibzada Farhan because of how desperate we were in finding a batsman who could play according to modern LOI standards.

Omair Bin Yousuf
Haider Ali
Saud Shakeel
Babar Azam
Saif Badar
Abdullah Shafique
Nasir Nawaz

All highly talented.
 
Omair Bin Yousuf
Haider Ali
Saud Shakeel
Babar Azam
Saif Badar
Abdullah Shafique
Nasir Nawaz

All highly talented.

Hussain Talat
Agha Salman
Saim Ayub

There are going to be more appearing in the next 2 years.
Our domestic circuit used to be flooded with expired domestic bullies, chachas and uncles with no futures.
They are all getting strained out in this new system.
 
This guy has a lot of ability, but just hasn't strung any scores together.
If he gets his game together, he should very easily find a spot in the national squad.

[MENTION=29901]Thunderbolt[/MENTION], suddenly, there are so many promising batsmen coming up, MashaAllah. Can you recall how dire the situation was just a couple of years ago, let along during the Misbah era?
Heck, we tried slotting in guys like Bilal Asif and Sahibzada Farhan because of how desperate we were in finding a batsman who could play according to modern LOI standards.

Shouldnt be surprising. Saif Badar, if worked on, can become a tremendous player for Pakistan at number 4 or 5 in LOIs. One who can finish games on his own. He has everything that a modern day batsman needs including a power game.
 
Hussain Talat
Agha Salman
Saim Ayub

There are going to be more appearing in the next 2 years.
Our domestic circuit used to be flooded with expired domestic bullies, chachas and uncles with no futures.
They are all getting strained out in this new system.

Zeeshan Malik as well.
 
[MENTION=128087]last_knight[/MENTION] bhai you seem to follow Saif Badar a lot, more than other youngsters, any specific reason?

Among youngsters, I like Saif Badar and Zeeshan Malik. Both are naturally talented Batsmen and my picks for couple of years in following thread;

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...r-you-are-eagerly-waiting-for-to-make-a-debut

Imagine Babar Azam with a power game. That's what Saif Badar can be. He has all the skills and work ethics. But skills alone aren't going to be suffifient.

Bigger question is if he has the temperament? Looks like this season we will get the answer.
 
Among youngsters, I like Saif Badar and Zeeshan Malik. Both are naturally talented Batsmen and my picks for couple of years in following thread;

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...r-you-are-eagerly-waiting-for-to-make-a-debut

Imagine Babar Azam with a power game. That's what Saif Badar can be. He has all the skills and work ethics. But skills alone aren't going to be suffifient.

Bigger question is if he has the temperament? Looks like this season we will get the answer.

Saif's game is not tight at the moment, for him to be at Babar's level.
He still reaches out for the ball, which is a glaring weakness in the red ball format.
With his present skillset, he is a very rich man's shoaib Malik, which is not bad at all.
 
Saif's game is not tight at the moment, for him to be at Babar's level.
He still reaches out for the ball, which is a glaring weakness in the red ball format.
With his present skillset, he is a very rich man's shoaib Malik, which is not bad at all.

I think off late he has been batting and batling against the feeling-to-surrender.
 
This guy has a lot of ability, but just hasn't strung any scores together.
If he gets his game together, he should very easily find a spot in the national squad.

[MENTION=29901]Thunderbolt[/MENTION], suddenly, there are so many promising batsmen coming up, MashaAllah. Can you recall how dire the situation was just a couple of years ago, let along during the Misbah era?
Heck, we tried slotting in guys like Bilal Asif and Sahibzada Farhan because of how desperate we were in finding a batsman who could play according to modern LOI standards.

It’s amazing. What do you reckon changed? In the last 4 years we’ve suddenly have a very inspiring young crop between Babar Azam, Abdullah Shafique, Haider Ali, Saud Shakeel, Imam ul Haq, Muhammad Huraira, and so on.

Then you have Omair bin Yousuf, Saif Badar, Ali Zaryab.

Before, we would produce at most 1 batsman per U-19 batch but suddenly we are producing 2 good prospects per batch.

We have some optimism for the future too, with the likes of Saim Ayub coming through.
 
It’s amazing. What do you reckon changed? In the last 4 years we’ve suddenly have a very inspiring young crop between Babar Azam, Abdullah Shafique, Haider Ali, Saud Shakeel, Imam ul Haq, Muhammad Huraira, and so on.

Then you have Omair bin Yousuf, Saif Badar, Ali Zaryab.

Before, we would produce at most 1 batsman per U-19 batch but suddenly we are producing 2 good prospects per batch.

We have some optimism for the future too, with the likes of Saim Ayub coming through.

Few more:
Sami Aslam
Zeeshan Malik
Abdul Wahid Bangalzai
Nasir Nawaz
Imran Butt
Hussain Talat
Danish Aziz
 
It’s amazing. What do you reckon changed? In the last 4 years we’ve suddenly have a very inspiring young crop between Babar Azam, Abdullah Shafique, Haider Ali, Saud Shakeel, Imam ul Haq, Muhammad Huraira, and so on.

Then you have Omair bin Yousuf, Saif Badar, Ali Zaryab.

Before, we would produce at most 1 batsman per U-19 batch but suddenly we are producing 2 good prospects per batch.

We have some optimism for the future too, with the likes of Saim Ayub coming through.

The under 19 and academy system has gotten better, and most of the players are being earmarked based on their potential.
However in spite, of that identification, these players were not being given opportunities in domestic cricket, but the new system has changed that because it has liasoned with the NHPC.
Saif for example is being played at 4,5 for the first time in the QEA trophy because NHPC coaches have him high in consideration.

Previously these players would be lost and the NCA would pay no attention to that drain.

However, now InshaAllah, you will see more players coming up due to this in the upcoming seasons.
 
The under 19 and academy system has gotten better, and most of the players are being earmarked based on their potential.
However in spite, of that identification, these players were not being given opportunities in domestic cricket, but the new system has changed that because it has liasoned with the NHPC.
Saif for example is being played at 4,5 for the first time in the QEA trophy because NHPC coaches have him high in consideration.

Previously these players would be lost and the NCA would pay no attention to that drain.

However, now InshaAllah, you will see more players coming up due to this in the upcoming seasons.

Kudos to Wasim Khan with regards to the NHPC. Regardless of this enormous amount of talent coming through if we keep picking has beens like Abid Fawad Azhar etc we won't improve.
 
Saif Badar out for 81. Very annoying.

These scores aren't going to cut it. He needs to bat big if he wants to make the national team. It's not a one off either as these cute fifties have been a patern for Saif this year. And this is with the best bolwers missing from the tournament.

Omair should be an example, he is atleast hitting tons.

Same issue with Zaryab though with him it could be that he is just not in that great touch. The two run-outs didn't help either. Today he didnt seem that fluent but still stuck around for 150 odd deliveries. He has three tons for the second XI last season so that's a plus. Hopefully he will hit one big one here too in the coming matches.
 
The under 19 and academy system has gotten better, and most of the players are being earmarked based on their potential.
However in spite, of that identification, these players were not being given opportunities in domestic cricket, but the new system has changed that because it has liasoned with the NHPC.
Saif for example is being played at 4,5 for the first time in the QEA trophy because NHPC coaches have him high in consideration.

Previously these players would be lost and the NCA would pay no attention to that drain.

However, now InshaAllah, you will see more players coming up due to this in the upcoming seasons.

Another thing I wanted to ask you was what makes you feel that this bunch of talented young batsmen we have is different to the last lot? Because I remember a line up of:

Ahmad
Nasir
Babar
Haris
Umar
Maqsood

This also seemed beyond belief at one point for most of us. Only Babar made it big, somewhat Haris I guess.
 
Good to see Saif finally putting scores together. Now he needs to score big which I am sure he will Inshallah. Plus he should be working on his leg spin which was pretty decent for a part timer.
 
Another thing I wanted to ask you was what makes you feel that this bunch of talented young batsmen we have is different to the last lot? Because I remember a line up of:

Ahmad
Nasir
Babar
Haris
Umar
Maqsood

This also seemed beyond belief at one point for most of us. Only Babar made it big, somewhat Haris I guess.

Well the talent was no doubt there for a lot of these, but the system wasn’t. All these new youngsters are for example crazy fit compared to Haris Sohail, Umar Akmal, and Sohaib Maqsood. Abdullah Shafique quite literally packs a six pack.

Secondly, I feel there is more trust in the system now to groom batsmen than there was before. This is because a narrowed down system of just 6 teams means if you emerge as a top run scorer, you were able to do so without capitalizing on mediocre third seamers after batting out the new ball, or bashing full tosses from spinners.

There are also incentives to play positive cricket that weren’t there before which we see in how the Quaid e Azam points table is structured. Teams like Northern are doing fascinatingly well as a result. And finally, coaches are no longer accountable to their respective departments. But rather, now they are accountable to the PCB. In the previous system, 6th coach was the 6th best coach out of 20.

In this system, 6th coach is the worst coach out of 6. Removal of certain coaches between 2019 to 2020 based not just on results but on brand of cricket, set the precedent for this. You can no longer afford to be complacent, or rely on your “experienced” 35 year old gang to bash second XI standard 20 year olds. That used to be a winning formula - now, coaches are forced to pick the genuine best. On a similar point, given the number of teams in the previous system, one loss or win here or there just wasn’t enough. You were allowed to be mercurial and just needed one solid patch of form as a team to rise to the top. This new system can send you from the top to the bottom of the table within 2 games. You need to be consistent, and you need to always be on your toes from a strategic point of view.

That’s why coaches are beginning to back proper young talents as failure to do so will cost them their jobs. In turn, the genuine quality talents are quickly spotted. Before, you would have a crop of young batsmen emerge like the ones you mentioned but you couldn’t really differentiate the quality quickly because stats tended to be inflated against worse teams, and therefore didn’t tell you the entire story. Now, stats give a much, much clearer picture of quality. Though they don’t tell the entire story, a 150 here means a lot more than a 150 by a batsman 3 years ago. This allows quick identification and promotion.

There are still many wonders of the system that are still being implemented. Expect to see the results more clearly in 1-2 years’ time. Just as a sneakpeak, let me illustrate a hypothetical scenario. We know that not all these young batsmen will make it to the top level, because only 11 people can play for Pakistan. What that means is that we will have a lot of technically correct, fit, strokeplaying batsmen dominating the charts in five years time, when Omair bin Yousuf, Ali Zaryab, Saif Badar, etc are all at their peaks, while Khurram Manzoor and co are phased out. That in turn raises the standard of domestic cricket even further compared to today. So now imagine that around that time a new fast bowler comes along and tops the charts - it will mean a lot, lot more than Tabish Khan topping the charts with a dukes ball against substandard lineups.

Then you will know that there is genuine quality - no need to throw players against the wall and see what sticks.
 
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Another thing I wanted to ask you was what makes you feel that this bunch of talented young batsmen we have is different to the last lot? Because I remember a line up of:

Ahmad
Nasir
Babar
Haris
Umar
Maqsood

This also seemed beyond belief at one point for most of us. Only Babar made it big, somewhat Haris I guess.

That was the dark era for Pakistan cricket, and everything that could have gone south, ultimately did go there.
The old batch were not bad with regards to physical ability, but they were not handled well or groomed in a competitive system.
Most of those guys were also not very bright upstairs and did not have a role model like Babar to emulate. Maqsood for example has shown minimal improvement in terms of technique. The less said about umar and Nasir, the better.

The new batch on the other hand, is being developed methodically and their growth is being facilitated by the system.

These guys are also developing in a backdrop where they have seen the previous batch dissipate altogether and seem to have learnt from their examples, as a result, have a better head on their shoulders.
All in all, these guys are part of a cultural change that is happening in Pakistan cricket, therefore i expect them to come good. InshaAllah!
 
Well the talent was no doubt there for a lot of these, but the system wasn’t. All these new youngsters are for example crazy fit compared to Haris Sohail, Umar Akmal, and Sohaib Maqsood. Abdullah Shafique quite literally packs a six pack.

Secondly, I feel there is more trust in the system now to groom batsmen than there was before. This is because a narrowed down system of just 6 teams means if you emerge as a top run scorer, you were able to do so without capitalizing on mediocre third seamers after batting out the new ball, or bashing full tosses from spinners.

There are also incentives to play positive cricket that weren’t there before which we see in how the Quaid e Azam points table is structured. Teams like Northern are doing fascinatingly well as a result. And finally, coaches are no longer accountable to their respective departments. But rather, now they are accountable to the PCB. In the previous system, 6th coach was the 6th best coach out of 20.

In this system, 6th coach is the worst coach out of 6. Removal of certain coaches between 2019 to 2020 based not just on results but on brand of cricket, set the precedent for this. You can no longer afford to be complacent, or rely on your “experienced” 35 year old gang to bash second XI standard 20 year olds. That used to be a winning formula - now, coaches are forced to pick the genuine best. On a similar point, given the number of teams in the previous system, one loss or win here or there just wasn’t enough. You were allowed to be mercurial and just needed one solid patch of form as a team to rise to the top. This new system can send you from the top to the bottom of the table within 2 games. You need to be consistent, and you need to always be on your toes from a strategic point of view.

That’s why coaches are beginning to back proper young talents as failure to do so will cost them their jobs. In turn, the genuine quality talents are quickly spotted. Before, you would have a crop of young batsmen emerge like the ones you mentioned but you couldn’t really differentiate the quality quickly because stats tended to be inflated against worse teams, and therefore didn’t tell you the entire story. Now, stats give a much, much clearer picture of quality. Though they don’t tell the entire story, a 150 here means a lot more than a 150 by a batsman 3 years ago. This allows quick identification and promotion.

There are still many wonders of the system that are still being implemented. Expect to see the results more clearly in 1-2 years’ time. Just as a sneakpeak, let me illustrate a hypothetical scenario. We know that not all these young batsmen will make it to the top level, because only 11 people can play for Pakistan. What that means is that we will have a lot of technically correct, fit, strokeplaying batsmen dominating the charts in five years time, when Omair bin Yousuf, Ali Zaryab, Saif Badar, etc are all at their peaks, while Khurram Manzoor and co are phased out. That in turn raises the standard of domestic cricket even further compared to today. So now imagine that around that time a new fast bowler comes along and tops the charts - it will mean a lot, lot more than Tabish Khan topping the charts with a dukes ball against substandard lineups.

Then you will know that there is genuine quality - no need to throw players against the wall and see what sticks.

Top post, POTW candidate, well done.
 
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