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[VIDEOS] "I would like to be known as a genuine all-rounder" : Amad Butt

Rellu_Katta said:
most of these guys are always shouting about how the great talent umar akmal was and when he is a proven failure on international level ....

what is more important is how the player takes pressure of international cricket.... tht attitude and hard work post selection is what is more important... when we see likes of umar akmal , hassan ali, shadab khan and ahmad shahzad losing their skin thinking they r super stars and not improving , it just kills us

hopefully these guys can continue to improve and stay on the ground rather than just showing off
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Yes, that's the most important part, staying on the ground. That way they will continue to put in the hard yards and improve. It's also important to never be satisfied and wanting to get better and better. That's what makes a talented player a good player, and a good player a great player.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
No his bowling is very hittable. Very hittable pace.
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Its T20 - everybody is hittable. He is a much better prospect than all of our other so-called A/R's - Anwar Ali, Bilawal Bhatti, Faheem Ashraf and even Aamer Yamin to certain extent. Hopefully under Waqar's wing at IU and Pak - he can work on his lengths and variations, not every bowler in our attack needs to be at bowling 140+
 
Canistani Hero said:
Its T20 - everybody is hittable. He is a much better prospect than all of our other so-called A/R's - Anwar Ali, Bilawal Bhatti, Faheem Ashraf and even Aamer Yamin to certain extent. Hopefully under Waqar's wing at IU and Pak - he can work on his lengths and variations, not every bowler in our attack needs to be at bowling 140+
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I was joking. There was someone on here before that said Ammad Butt is very hittable, and then said I have no eye for talent for saying the inning last night shows he's a clutch player.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
I was joking. There was someone on here before that said Ammad Butt is very hittable, and then said I have no eye for talent for saying the inning last night shows he's a clutch player.
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That guy rates misbah so ignore him.
 
Shadab batting decently in a role he's not made for. Still don't get how he wasn't selected for tests to bat at 7.
 
2/19 in 4 overs for Amad in the final - excellent performance once again
 
MenInG said:
2/19 in 4 overs for Amad in the final - excellent performance once again
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Misbah made a big mistake announcing the t20i squad so early. He should have waited for this tournament to finish. Ammad Butt definitely deserved it. Aqif Javed deserves selection so much more than Irfan.
 
If only Pak management is willing to take a 16 member T20 squad. He is in great form and Pak should utilize it.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
Misbah made a big mistake announcing the t20i squad so early. He should have waited for this tournament to finish. Ammad Butt definitely deserved it. Aqif Javed deserves selection so much more than Irfan.
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any ideas about Ammad's pace... his heavy ball is about 140kz which isnt bad... i think he is generally about 135k avg with heavy balls in early 140z ...
 
Rellu_Katta said:
any ideas about Ammad's pace... his heavy ball is about 140kz which isnt bad... i think he is generally about 135k avg with heavy balls in early 140z ...
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he used to bowl at 145k regularly, but after changing his action last year he has lost around 5k to 7k pace
 
Ammad Butt 44(45) run out vs. Sri Lanka in Emerging Teams Asia Cup 2019. Highest scorer for Pakistan with three 4s and three 6s.
 
Performing consistently for a while now. Should be playing T20s ahead of Wahab.
 
Very impressed by Amad -just need to see some fifties under his belt now.
 
This guy has actually shown decent performances with the bat whereas someone like Faheem is living off a fluke innings in a frickin warm up game :facepalm:

Justice needs to be done soon and Amad given a chance ahead of useless Faheem.
 
Unless you're a Waqar Younis , Waseem Akram , one should not be fast tracked to International cricket. Amad has been playing FC and domestic cricket for 4-5 years now, has been gradually improving his skill and performance and now its the right time to prefer him over useless "allrounders" and include him to ODI and T20 team. He still needs to polish his skill more, which he will do once in big league.
 
Whereas Faheem has gone downhill, this lad has steadily and slowly improved in all facets of his cricket.

I was speaking with some of his team-mates and they say he's a very hard trainer and hard working cricketer.

Perhaps he's due a lucky break soon regarding selection.
 
Saj said:
Whereas Faheem has gone downhill, this lad has steadily and slowly improved in all facets of his cricket.

I was speaking with some of his team-mates and they say he's a very hard trainer and hard working cricketer.

Perhaps he's due a lucky break soon regarding selection.
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I have heard the same things, but we are reaching the point where his age - he’s 24 and a half officially - is becoming a problem.

Players like him don’t develop if you leave them in domestic cricket or junior international cricket. Rather like Fawad Alam this season they thrive against weak opposition when the best players are on international duty.

You have to do what happened with Abdul Razzaq - add them to international squads early so that they practice in the nets against international batsmen and bowlers every day.

When Northants offered Faheem Ashraf an expanded and extended contract they did so explicitly stating that he is faster than their other bowlers.

It’s a worry that Amad Butt has already lost around 5-10K in speed. His role in international cricket would be as fourth seamer outside Asia, batting at number 8 (or even 7 if you are right about Shadab deteriorating).

That’s the Ben Stokes or Mitchell Marsh role. And to survive as a bowler requires either pace or movement or preferably both.
 
Scored 13(6) & took 1/43 in 10 overs in SF for ACC Emerging Teams Asia Cup
 
Should be a lock-in for the LOI teams. If Faheem can be given a long rope, not sure why this lad is still on the fringes.
 
Nerves of steel today. That last over must have taken some guys and courage.
 
Saj said:
Nerves of steel today. That last over must have taken some guys and courage.
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He has been handling the pressure extremely well recently. Previously with the bat as he played some impressive knocks under pressure in national T20 cup and now with bowl in hand as well.

Should be part of both the T20 and ODI plans going forward.
 
Someone convince me he's not Anwar Ali v2 with both the bat and the ball.

Who has seen him play well-timed strokes against the pacers 360 degrees, or at least most of them on the off side?

Who has seen him consistently bowl above 138-139 kph?

If nobody can vouch for the above two things, he'll turn out to be yet another Anwar Ali at the international level. If we tone down the typical hyping, that's what he appears to be.
 
Hawkeye said:
Someone convince me he's not Anwar Ali v2 with both the bat and the ball.

Who has seen him play well-timed strokes against the pacers 360 degrees, or at least most of them on the off side?

Who has seen him consistently bowl above 138-139 kph?

If nobody can vouch for the above two things, he'll turn out to be yet another Anwar Ali at the international level. If we tone down the typical hyping, that's what he appears to be.
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Anwer Ali wasnt let down by his batting as he still can bat better than Faheem in LOIs rather his bowling with nothing much to offer.

While Amad isnt consistently in 140s but he can go upwards of 140 kph and he does bowl a heavy ball even in mid to late 130s and his back of the hand slower ball is one of the best around in Pak domestic cricket. Unlike many he is also a thinking cricketer and is fit too.

He atleast have a strong zone where he can hit the bowl unlike Faheem who struggled both on the offside as well as leg side not only because of lack of skills but his pressure handling skills as well which with Amad is a big plus.

He shouldnt be hyped to be the next best thing since the sliced bread but he definitely is an upgrade over previous pace bowling all rounders we have been seeing as he can actually bat and ball decently and more importantly which is probably the most important aspect of international cricket in my opinion is that he has a good temperament and pressure handling skills.
 
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Titan24 said:
Anwer Ali wasnt let down by his batting as he still can bat better than Faheem in LOIs rather his bowling with nothing much to offer.

While Amad isnt consistently in 140s but he can go upwards of 140 kph and he does bowl a heavy ball even in mid to late 130s and his back of the hand slower ball is one of the best around in Pak domestic cricket. Unlike many he is also a thinking cricketer and is fit too.

He atleast have a strong zone where he can hit the bowl unlike Faheem who struggled both on the offside as well as leg side not only because of lack of skills but his pressure handling skills as well which with Amad is a big plus.

He shouldnt be hyped to be the next best thing since the sliced bread but he definitely is an upgrade over previous pace bowling all rounders we have been seeing as he can actually bat and ball decently and more importantly which is probably the most important aspect of international cricket in my opinion is that he has a good temperament and pressure handling skills.
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You're a poster with good cricketing sense, so I have to give weight to your opinion here!

Comparing with Faheem's batting is not a comparison bro. When you say he can actually bat, do you mean like a proper allrounder (it has to be someone who can hit!).

Like Pandya? Or somewhere close to Stokes?

Or by batting do you mean like Anwar Ali and Bilawal Bhatti? Anwar too had a strong zone, just leg side / mid wicket hoicks. Can he hit pacers on the off side and without pre-meditation?


On bowling I'll trust you, it is batting where we need people who can hit the pacers, without premeditation, and on the off side too.
 
[MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] if you look at his knocks from 2015 , he has been scoring on deffucult wickets, he has lost pace but gained control with new action, I think he is ready now.
 
Hawkeye said:
You're a poster with good cricketing sense, so I have to give weight to your opinion here!

Comparing with Faheem's batting is not a comparison bro. When you say he can actually bat, do you mean like a proper allrounder (it has to be someone who can hit!).

Like Pandya? Or somewhere close to Stokes?

Or by batting do you mean like Anwar Ali and Bilawal Bhatti? Anwar too had a strong zone, just leg side / mid wicket hoicks. Can he hit pacers on the off side and without pre-meditation?


On bowling I'll trust you, it is batting where we need people who can hit the pacers, without premeditation, and on the off side too.
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Amad is a bowling all rounder so I wont compare him with the likes of Stokes who is more of a batting all rounder.

He is more than good enough to bat at no 8 and provide momentum at the end of the innings and provides a decent 3rd,4th seam bowling option. He can hit the pacers when ball is in his zone, just like most hitters he is stronger at hitting straight down the ground and towards mid on. However, he has decent ability to put the ball away on off side as well. His Innings against Southern Punjab when Baluchistan needed 30 runs in 15 balls in national T20 cup where he hit Umaid Asif for a few sixes who might not be the fastest but definitely is a bowler with a lot of weapons in T20s was one of the besthitting under pressure by a Pakistani batsman I have seen in recent times.

He averages 19 with the bat in List A with a SR of 99 manifesting he is a bowler who can bat so expectations should be such. If we need a pace bowling all rounder at no 8, I dont think anyone offers more than him in LOIs at the moment.
 
DRsohail said:
[MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION] if you look at his knocks from 2015 , he has been scoring on deffucult wickets, he has lost pace but gained control with new action, I think he is ready now.
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I agree. He should be given a go in LOIs and see where he goes from there, there is definitely no harm in trying him especially when we have been trying to find a pace bowling all rounder. He averages 24 with ball in FC cricket so he does offer decent potential with bowl in hand too.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur "2 names that jump out for me from the Emerging Squad are Saud Shakeel who''s going to be a really good player & Amad Butt is potentially the all-rounder Pakistan are looking for, hard-hitting batsman towards the back end, quick enough with the ball & a gun fielder"</p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1198593380533583872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Amad Butt 106 (156b) - continues to impress for Balochistan.
 
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He is not stopping, one performance after another, keep nudging the selectors. He would bring badly needed balance to the side at #7, bowling allrounder. Bring him in when he is hot.
 
moghul said:
Bring him in when he is hot.
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Totally. Selections have historically been pretty poor in this aspect as a time to give someone a chance is when he is in full form and flow, no point waiting if he is to be included in team plans going forward.
 
Titan24 said:
Totally. Selections have historically been pretty poor in this aspect as a time to give someone a chance is when he is in full form and flow, no point waiting if he is to be included in team plans going forward.
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I would say bring him in to the Karachi test in place of Abbas. Abbas needs the Remo set that he an be dropped and isn't an automatic selection. His form is very poor. Amad will do decent with the ball and will add depth to the batting at number 8. He is also very fit and is probably a good fielder. His style of bowling is well suited to Pakistan conditions.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
I would say bring him in to the Karachi test in place of Abbas. Abbas needs the Remo set that he an be dropped and isn't an automatic selection. His form is very poor. Amad will do decent with the ball and will add depth to the batting at number 8. He is also very fit and is probably a good fielder. His style of bowling is well suited to Pakistan conditions.
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While its highly unlikely thing to happen considering our monotonous and traditional selection methods in tests but he can definitely be more accurate than what we are seeing and his batting is a bonus. Other suitable combo can be drafting him in along with either Shadab or Zafar and make it a five bowers combo as wickets in Karachi are generally high scoring so an extra bowler can help.

Though I think considering everything, best chance he has for a debut in any format is BD T20s if the tour goes ahead.
 
Finally. Hopefully he plays all the games. He is the allrounder we need, also handles pressure well.
 
finally ..... hope he gets all 3 games.

misbah is **** enough to get youngsters in the XI just to get people off his bak and then play the same TTFz all the time

i doubt him, khushdil shah, Usman Q and musa will get any game.... or any serious time to portray their talent
 
Richly deserved. He has improved batting massively also his bowling suits t20 format which requires different kind of variation which he does have
 
Misbah speaking to the press today:

Amad Butt did well in the Emerging team and has brought himself into contention as a white-ball all-rounder.
 
Rellu_Katta said:
finally ..... hope he gets all 3 games.

misbah is **** enough to get youngsters in the XI just to get people off his bak and then play the same TTFz all the time

i doubt him, khushdil shah, Usman Q and musa will get any game.... or any serious time to portray their talent
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For any international team main focus is to win the series first with what they think is the best xi.
 
He can hold a bat and has some power game, however his bowling is on par with Hammad or just slightly better.

Unless he has developed his bowling, he will get carted around and is a liability with the ball, plus bowls medium pace at best.
 
Barragan said:
He can hold a bat and has some power game, however his bowling is on par with Hammad or just slightly better.

Unless he has developed his bowling, he will get carted around and is a liability with the ball, plus bowls medium pace at best.
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he is much better than hammad... he is i think better than Faheem ... has ability to bowl yorkers and has deceptive slow balls ....
 
i dont think he is better than faheem thats the issue...but if you look at the full package including his slower bowls etc he might be on par with him..his batting is similar to faheem but he deserves a chance i just hope he takes it.
 
Rellu_Katta said:
he is much better than hammad... he is i think better than Faheem ... has ability to bowl yorkers and has deceptive slow balls ....
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Unless he has improved drastically, he is an average bowler.

Faheem is comfortably better than him.
 
Ofcourse its not something to base a judgement on, but it looked like he went for a lot of runs during the practice match(es)
 
Barragan said:
Unless he has improved drastically, he is an average bowler.

Faheem is comfortably better than him.
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he has improved a lot .....much better than he was ... dont think Faheem deserves to be above him in the picking order based on batting or bowling
 
Wha a pathetic excuse of a bowler.

Single-handedly losing ISLU the match - from a winning position now close to losing!!!!


Genuine TRUNDLER.

Here goes another hyped up savior.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Would need to be one hell of a batsman to compensate for that medium pace trash he serves up.
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Got out first ball duck.

So far, looks like one of the lowest quality material we have produced.

So much for all the hype by [MENTION=150544]Rellu_Katta[/MENTION] and [MENTION=149684]Danyaalr01[/MENTION]

But - let's see if he can deliver in batting in the upcoming matches. Doubt he will.

As a bowler, he is utter trash - have always said that.
 
Totally rubbish display from Amad don't see him getting another game for some time now
 
Rubbish, epitome of mediocrity.

Needs to be kicked out ASAP if ISLU has to win.
 
I thought he was very poor today.

2 or 3 rubbish balls every over which went for a boundary.
 
Saj said:
I thought he was very poor today.

2 or 3 rubbish balls every over which went for a boundary.
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He's been like that in all the PSL competitions I've watched. Definitely has more bad games than good ones. Would hate to see what would happen if he was exposed to the top international teams.
 
What a awful bowling spell needs to be dropped not good enough as a 5th bowler
 
Hawkeye said:
Pathetic bowling again today !!!

Ruined the finishing.
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Wait what 🤣😂 ?
Only 10 runs conceded in his last over while his overall figure is 4/27

Btw no comments on friends 11 favourite fahim kulsner ashraf who is going at 10 runs per over
 
Hawkeye said:
Pathetic bowling again today !!!

Ruined the finishing.
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It wasnt him whole bowling unit couldnt finish well rather he was better in his last over than some others. He finished with 4-0-27-4 which are pretty good figures by any standard.
 
I just tuned in to watch his last over, where he got spanked.

But, just checked the stats, he actually did good today apart from the last over [MENTION=139510]saeed5646[/MENTION]. [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION]
 
Hawkeye said:
I just tuned in to watch his last over, where he got spanked.

But, just checked the stats, he actually did good today apart from the last over [MENTION=139510]saeed5646[/MENTION]. [MENTION=142432]Titan24[/MENTION]
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His yorker to Vince and slower balls were pretty impressive.
 
Brilliant stuff with the ball. Needs to bat above the useless duo of Shadab and Faheem.
 
Not international quality but is decent at the franchise level. He needs to work on his concentration, he bowls too many 4 balls atm.
 
Very good spell today his slower balls are really good needs to bowl between 7-14 overs when he has more fielders out
 
Amad Butt 6/57 in Round 3 of Quaid-e-Azam
 
QeA20, Round 3, Day 3

Ali Waqas and Taimur Ali were the notable run-getters for Balochistan with 39 and 34, respectively, while all-rounder Amad Butt followed up his career-best innings figures of six for 57 with a 50-ball 26.

The 25-year-old Amad allowed Central Punjab to add only 47 runs to their overnight score of 204 for six. The right-arm pacer took all of the Central Punjab’s remaining wickets and recorded his career’s fifth five-wicket haul.
 
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