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[VIDEOS] Is Shadab Khan playing as a bowler or a batsman?

Bewal Express said:
Shadab is a bowler, who should aim to make number 8 his position. Unfortunately, his leg spinner has totally disappeared, I turn my leg spinner more than him from the straight and that is a bad sign. His accuracy is also poor at the moment. He needs to get back to basics and work on the fiercely spun leg break.
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Pakistan seriously needs a specialist off spinner as soon as possible. What are the options? :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Pakistan seriously needs a specialist off spinner as soon as possible. What are the options? :inti
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:ifti

There are no standouts. Bilal Asif is iffy and he was amongst the best-performing offies in the previous domestic season. Sajid Khan also did well but has little experience.
 
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I dont think he knows what his role is in tests also the coaching staff are not sure hence why he only bowled limited overs
 
Shadab should have been given more overs, there’s something to work with there.

It does seem like Yasir was over protected here.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Pakistan seriously needs a specialist off spinner as soon as possible. What are the options? :inti
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There is no ready made Saeed Ajmal for sure, but I am impressed with the guy Sajid Khan. Decent experience, at the right age for spinner to be debuted and a handy bat for no. 8 as well. And, what it looks he is a genuine offie with clean action (no doosra, tisra). Not a finished product for sure but can be groomed into a valuable asset for Asian Tests - can average around 20 with bat and give tight 50 overs per Test.
 
Junaid is right he was definetly one of the top performer in the match after Shan and Yasir, but under utilised.
 
Seems like neither if some media reports are to be believed!

"Reports indicating that Fawad Alam will replace Shadab Khan for 2nd Test"
 
Happy Birthday to him

Doing well as a batsman in National T20, could become a big asset for Pakistan in this role, in this format
 
shamaan said:
Are people stil stating his not good enough lol
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He is an excellent T20 player, an above average ODI player and a below par Test player who is hyped to the moon, because there is absolutely no competitor, no option either ........ a guy named Mansoor Amjad was damn unlucky that he was born in wrong time, when PAK cricket wasn't in this bankrupt state that a player like Shadab Khan is sponsored to be next Test Captain by passionate fan base.
 
MMHS said:
He is an excellent T20 player, an above average ODI player and a below par Test player who is hyped to the moon, because there is absolutely no competitor, no option either ........ a guy named Mansoor Amjad was damn unlucky that he was born in wrong time, when PAK cricket wasn't in this bankrupt state that a player like Shadab Khan is sponsored to be next Test Captain by passionate fan base.
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Rightly hyped, how old is he and how many Tests has he played as a front line spinner to be called below par Test bowler. Of course he has to play lots of domestics to develop his bowling but posters are hyping hime due to his potential and talent, and judging by limited test opportunities in his early career.
 
PakPremi said:
Rightly hyped, how old is he and how many Tests has he played as a front line spinner to be called below par Test bowler. Of course he has to play lots of domestics to develop his bowling but posters are hyping hime due to his potential and talent, and judging by limited test opportunities in his early career.
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He is officially 22 today, so yes age is in his side. However, at official 22, most of the successful PAK cricketers I have seen had achieved more ... may be apart from Imran - who grew by two inch from age of 18 in 1971 to 1974 and became No. 1 fast bowler at 35+. Wasim, Waquar, Mushi, Saq, Danish, Amir ... all had a Test 10for or MoM before 22....... and people like ARazzak & Afridi were almost super star by 22. I hope Shadab proves his hype - he has time in his side, has turned only 22 today.
 
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MMHS said:
He is an excellent T20 player, an above average ODI player and a below par Test player who is hyped to the moon, because there is absolutely no competitor, no option either ........ a guy named Mansoor Amjad was damn unlucky that he was born in wrong time, when PAK cricket wasn't in this bankrupt state that a player like Shadab Khan is sponsored to be next Test Captain by passionate fan base.
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He proberly hyped to the moon based on his talent and his stats in t20s and odis.he can be decent enough in tests as a second spinner and lower order Bateman.
 
Good enough for t20s.....need 2 come good in ODIS... He can with both bat and bowl.....
 
I fear he may end up as a lower middle order batter who doesn't finish his overs quota.
His stock leg spinner hasn't improved much. His ODI bowling may suffer.
 
The greatest fielder we’ve ever had.

A fast improving batsman who played some clutch innings under pressure in different formats around the world already, and has suddenly improved the main weakness in his game (having a low strike rate).

The main concern is that his bowling seems to have regressed slightly from his debut. But time is on his side as he’s a leg spinner - they take time to mature.

Fact of the matter is, he is the core of the team for the next decade along with Babar and Shaheen.
 
shamaan said:
He proberly hyped to the moon based on his talent and his stats in t20s and odis.he can be decent enough in tests as a second spinner and lower order Bateman.
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That was exactly what I tried to say - thanks. Batting average of 26 @68 SR in ODI and a bowling average of 30@5 economy in ODI is definitely worthy of the hype towards moon for the current state of PAK cricket - no disconnect there.
 
MMHS said:
That was exactly what I tried to say - thanks. Batting average of 26 @68 SR in ODI and a bowling average of 30@5 economy in ODI is definitely worthy of the hype towards moon for the current state of PAK cricket - no disconnect there.
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What about his t20.states do you want to mention that azwell ?
 
Captain Shadab bowls 4 overs, 1/33, and now comes out to bat at #3. Looking to do it all
 
He is treating PSL like gully cricket bully where he wants both batting and bowling for himself.
 
Has just been hit for 4 sixes in a row. 32 runs conceded from his first 2 overs.
 
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I for one have been very excited about his talent. But he has refused to grow.

Shadab, Naseem Shah, Haider Ali and many others have not put things into their game to keep opposition guessing.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
I for one have been very excited about his talent. But he has refused to grow.

Shadab, Naseem Shah, Haider Ali and many others have not put things into their game to keep opposition guessing.
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Seems harsh. FYI Mickey singled out Shadab for being extremely commited in training. From what i hear hard work isn't an issue. It could be that the coaching is no good, Shadab was never actually that talented, he's neglected bowling for batting etc. or that he's been figured out by now.
 
Finally another [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] prediction came true. Showoff Shadab i liked but cant see how he can make team ahead of Qadir
 
hitthestump said:
Seems harsh. FYI Mickey singled out Shadab for being extremely commited in training. From what i hear hard work isn't an issue. It could be that the coaching is no good, Shadab was never actually that talented, he's neglected bowling for batting etc. or that he's been figured out by now.
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A big part of a cricketer’s career is determined by their personal growth. A coach can teach players a lot of tricks but if the player doesn’t know which trick to use in a given match situation then it’s not a coaching issue. This is the same reason why our so called “talented” players fail to deliver when most needed. Somehow they always need someone to tell them what they need to do. Shadab has all the ingredients but has no clue when to use what.
 
I hope his batting has improved considerably and he shows it this PSL. Because otherwise, vice captain or not, he doesn’t fit into our T20 lineup.
 
hitthestump said:
Seems harsh. FYI Mickey singled out Shadab for being extremely commited in training. From what i hear hard work isn't an issue. It could be that the coaching is no good, Shadab was never actually that talented, he's neglected bowling for batting etc. or that he's been figured out by now.
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I think there's no question he works incredibly hard in his fielding and his batting. His batting has really improved to another level since his debut. He has clearly increased his power game and learnt a wide array of shots as shown in the last PSL.

However it is also clear that he has not put the required work into his bowling. In order to be an effective leg spinner you need to put hundreds and hundreds of overs into the legs in domestic cricket.
 
0/32 from 2 overs with the ball, now a golden duck batting at #3
 
Said it since 2018 Asia Cup, send this pseudo AR back to domestic cricket. How can he make the T20 WC squad on this form ?
 
Forum363 said:
I think there's no question he works incredibly hard in his fielding and his batting. His batting has really improved to another level since his debut. He has clearly increased his power game and learnt a wide array of shots as shown in the last PSL.

However it is also clear that he has not put the required work into his bowling. In order to be an effective leg spinner you need to put hundreds and hundreds of overs into the legs in domestic cricket.
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Shadab needs to have both his bowling and batting at atleast 7 at all times to make the team. Or one discipline 9 and the other one 6 or less. At one point, his bowling was at least 7. His batting and bowling are currently at 5. He won't make the team based on this.

Hardwork etc is good but he has to channel the hardwork to the place where it will lead to results.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
Shadab needs to have both his bowling and batting at atleast 7 at all times to make the team. Or one discipline 9 and the other one 6 or less. At one point, his bowling was at least 7. His batting and bowling are currently at 5. He won't make the team based on this.

Hardwork etc is good but he has to channel the hardwork to the place where it will lead to results.
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Agreed. Ultimately, as leg spinner he needs to put a lot of work in. He will never be a bowler like Hafeez or Imad who can keep it tight and use their brain to keep runs down. He has to be either effective at leg spinner.
 
He is another Malik/Hafeez level player. Will end up having a long career. Will have more critics than fans. Views of most fans on him will keep changing every 2 months.
 
He has done nothing to be batting at 3 every game. Talat should bat at 3, Shadab should move down the order. He also needs to improve his bowling.
 
Agree with most His only value to the team is being a good leggie and a useful lower order bat

Hes neglected his bowling to the point hes turning into a partimer He needs to reassess Hes not gonna make the pakistan team as a batting all rounder

He needs to start putting some hard work into his bowling again
 
Its good to see shadab stating that his performance wasnt upto the mark in batting or bowling and that he must improve in both aspects.he should be batting at 4 or 5 and not 3 thou
 
Shadab can salvage his career by remembering that he is a leg spinner- go back to basics- get the leg spinner to spin and bowl with control. He needs to look to bat at 7 but be flexible if needed. He isnt a top 6 and never will be.
 
This is what happens when you try to work on something that isn't there, especially in your younger years.

At the age he is, Shadab should only be worried about his bowling because once that's sorted by the age of 25-26, he can move towards developing new variations and start batting better.

If I can recall, Ravindra Jadeja started out as a left-arm spinner who could bat, and his batting was okay when he began. After he matured in his bowling, he started improving his batting, and is now a world-class all-rounder.

You have to make sure that you have one skill mature enough to hold whilst you work on another.
 
This Shadab scam has gone on for far too long now. He has successful duped PCB and millions of fans over the last 4 years that he is some genuine talent with a lot of potential.

He is actually not talented at all. He has no bite in his bowling, he doesn’t get enough spin and his googly got found out years ago.

As a batsman, he lacks timing and power and is always late on the ball.

His only talent is his theatrics in the field. He is a very good fielder but most of the time he is showboating for the cameras.

He has had a very lucky break in his career otherwise he would have never played for Pakistan. He is basically a Saad Nasim type player who got lucky.

Mansoor Amjad from the 2000s was a much better cricketer but he never got a break because of Afridi and Kaneria.

Afridi is close to the 50 mark and he has 25 years of wear and tear on his body but he is still a better cricketer than Mr. zero talent Shadab, the self-appointed Steve Smith who struts around as if he is a superstar and owns Islamabad United, which he treats like his gully side.

The Shan Masood and the Shadab scams are the biggest scams in Pakistan cricket over the last few years. The former scam has ended, and it is now time for the latter.
 
UzmanBeast said:
This is what happens when you try to work on something that isn't there, especially in your younger years.

At the age he is, Shadab should only be worried about his bowling because once that's sorted by the age of 25-26, he can move towards developing new variations and start batting better.

If I can recall, Ravindra Jadeja started out as a left-arm spinner who could bat, and his batting was okay when he began. After he matured in his bowling, he started improving his batting, and is now a world-class all-rounder.

You have to make sure that you have one skill mature enough to hold whilst you work on another.
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Shadab is about 25-26 in reality, and he has only played 11 domestic FC matches. There lies the problem.

Leg-spin takes years and years of grind in the long format to develop unless you are some prodigy like Shane Warne.

As far as him developing into a world class leg-spinner is concerned, well that ship has now sailed.

He got a very early taste of the T20 bling and shot to fame on the back of PSL 2. He never focused on developing his skills for the longer formats and now he is getting exposed in the shorter formats as well.

PCB is trying hard to mold into Yasir’s successor, but he is not interested in Test cricket and he will never be half the Test bowler Yasir is.
 
Mamoon said:
Shadab is about 25-26 in reality, and he has only played 11 domestic FC matches. There lies the problem.

Leg-spin takes years and years of grind in the long format to develop unless you are some prodigy like Shane Warne.

As far as him developing into a world class leg-spinner is concerned, well that ship has now sailed.

He got a very early taste of the T20 bling and shot to fame on the back of PSL 2. He never focused on developing his skills for the longer formats and now he is getting exposed in the shorter formats as well.

PCB is trying hard to mold into Yasir’s successor, but he is not interested in Test cricket and he will never be half the Test bowler Yasir is.
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Agreed, the early exposure to PSl and T20 leagues was the undoing of what could have been a great bowling career for Shadab.

You look at his performances around 2017-2018, and if you watched his bowling, he was quite threatening. He got the ball to spin, he had the variations, and he was attacking. Yes, he used to get smacked sometimes (Hardik Pandya's notorious bashing of Shadab), but there was a lot of potential there.

The thing with Shadab is that his action is quite repeatable, and that's a good sign for a leg-spinner who wants to succeed in tests. If your action is repeatable, it means that you focus more attention on the other side of the pitch. Similarly, he had good control over his variations, though he might have been impatient with how he used the googly.

If he did not venture out into T20 leagues and kept playing FC cricket, we'd have someone almost ready to hold the spin-bowling front alongside Yasir, but instead we have a player who is equally as confused as us about being a bowler or a batsman.

Shadab threw away a golden opportunity to carry an unchallenged spot in the Pakistan setup, because our selectors would look at a leg-spinner averaging roundabout 30 rather than a finger-spinner averaging 25.

Right now, I don't see anyone in Pakistan capable of being labelled as Yasir's successor. Zahid is too uncontrollable (ER of 4 in QEA is poor to say the least), Qadir hasn't played FC Cricket, Shadab hasn't played FC Cricket, so there's not much we can really say.

You go to finger-spinners, and there aren't any good youngsters either.

So realistically, Shadab has lost the chance to develop his bowling because he's lost those years behind him. If he's serious about bowling, he needs to drop the bat.
 
Captain Shadab demoted himself to #5, but unfortunately his innings was short-lived as Hales ran him out.
 
The calamitous mix up between Shadab and Hales:

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If this is the horrific form that Shadab plans on taking to the World Cup then I would prefer he not go to the World Cup at all.

Pakistan should keep all options open in the spin department. Shadab is unreliable. His form with both bat and ball has been going downhill at a staggering rate for quite some time.
 
Zero batting talent, zero bowling talent, but Oscar worthy acting skills.
 
I really like Shadab, but it doesn’t make sense to have him in our T20I squad right now. There’s no place for him in the top 4 or the middle order. And frankly, he hasn’t shown anything this season to suggest that he’s a capable batsman right now.
As far as bowling is concerned, Imad, Zahid Mehmood, and Usman Qadir are definitely ahead of him. I don’t honestly see how he fits in the team right now.
 
I wouldn't include him in the T20 team.

A massive liability and needs to work really hard, to improve and get better.
 
Bowling stats so far in PSL6:

10-0-88-1

Batting numbers so far:

Innings 3
Runs 11
 
It’s shocking how backwoods shadab’s bowling has gone , why is it with any Pakistani star that burst on the scene they seem to regresss and not improve
 
I still think Shadab possesses lots f talent to become a good bowling all rounder but he needs to bring himself down to the ground and work hard on his bowling and batting. Last thing he needs is captaincy burden . Don;t know who was the genius who came with this idea of making him the capatin.
 
Can he play as a specialist fielder?

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He's entirely ineffective with the ball it seems these days. An okay batsman who bowls too.
 
He really needs to step up his game

His bowling is toothless these days and he cant hit for his life When he does he invariably gets out

He really needs to start doing some hard work
 
Shadab is like SIR Jadeja. Give him a consistent run of 70-75 ODIs and he will prove his worth. He needs to be backed.
 
Posters are forgetting he has missed a lot of cricket lately due to him recovering fro. His injuries. Shadab is a 3 dimensional player and more often than not contribute in atleast two dicplines. Fielding and bowling/batting. He is much more valuable than someone like Iftikhar, Asif Ali who often do not not even contribute in one. He can be backed and allowed to grow as no 6 batsman who can contribute as a part time
bowler.
 
Shadab khan's bowling 2021

I dont understand, maybe i expect a spinner to bowl all the deliveries at proper length.

I feel soo annoyed watching shadab bowl. He bowls 3 balls full 2 half the pitch and one gem of a delivery. He doesnt even spin the ball anymore.

What has happened to him and how can he improve
 
PakPremi said:
Posters are forgetting he has missed a lot of cricket lately due to him recovering fro. His injuries. Shadab is a 3 dimensional player and more often than not contribute in atleast two dicplines. Fielding and bowling/batting. He is much more valuable than someone like Iftikhar, Asif Ali who often do not not even contribute in one. He can be backed and allowed to grow as no 6 batsman who can contribute as a part time
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He already bowls like a part timer. And as a batsman he is nothing more than a number eight who can contribute with 20s-30s. A bits and pieces cricketer overall. Don't understand what the selectors saw in him that he is made the vice captain. Should focus towards his bowling if he wants to play longer for his team or else he should be kicked out soon in place of a specialist spinner.
 
Major said:
I dont understand, maybe i expect a spinner to bowl all the deliveries at proper length.

I feel soo annoyed watching shadab bowl. He bowls 3 balls full 2 half the pitch and one gem of a delivery. He doesnt even spin the ball anymore.

What has happened to him and how can he improve
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He's back to fitness and looks better with the ball in hand.
 
Shadab bowled well today but he needs to strive for consistency in the remaining matches because he has been badly out of form. Going into the World Cup Pakistan need for him to be firing if they are to have any sort of chance of winning the thing.
 
Failed with the bat, getting smashed with the ball in an over that has shifted the momentum. Opposite of leading from the front.
 
0/55 for captain Shadab in what is virtually a semi final.
 
Half century for Shadab today - but with the ball and not the bat.

Awful match for him - poor with the bat, ordinary with the ball and clueless as skipper.
 
Saj said:
Half century for Shadab today - but with the ball and not the bat.

Awful match for him - poor with the bat, ordinary with the ball and clueless as skipper.
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and if you look at his attitude, you would think he's the next Tendulkar and Warne
 
Shadab Khan in PSL 6:

Matches - 11
Batting average - 10.44
Bowling average - 36.11

Specialist captain I guess.
 
Firebat said:
Shadab Khan in PSL 6:

Matches - 11
Batting average - 10.44
Bowling average - 36.11

Specialist captain I guess.
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Poor numbers, very poor effort that.

Even the economy rate of 8.33 isn't that good.
 
Won't comment on the bowling but I dont understand why he bats any higher than 7. He cannot play in the spot of a genuine batsman. That is just poor planning.
 
shamaan said:
8.33 is fine especially if scores are 170+
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Stop defending him. He is one of the worst players to ever play for Pakistan. Absolute rubbish player. Hopefully he's benched for the England ODIs and dropped after that.
 
Pakistan need to learn from this - hardly anyone has gone into the international scene raw and actually improved lately. With little/no time in domestics Shadab has regressed from promising youngster to a nothing cricketer.

Perhaps Pakistan need a selection policy change and maybe Shadab's failings is when they finally realise it.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Stop defending him. He is one of the worst players to ever play for Pakistan. Absolute rubbish player. Hopefully he's benched for the England ODIs and dropped after that.
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Would you take 8.33 when scores are over 170+ ?Good to see you haven't dropped him In the t20s ..
 
Useless showoff. Another Sohail Akhtar in the making. Kept Zafar gohar on bench for whole time to play his buddies and himself
 
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