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JOFRA ARCHER IS BACK!
In the first over of his return to Test cricket he takes the wicket of Jaiswal
In the first over of his return to Test cricket he takes the wicket of Jaiswal
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If I were England captain and both were available to me, I would always play Wood and Archer. And have them bowl from one end, so they're never bowling together as it could go haywire, but the pace-pressure rarely stops.
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Just look at those speeds... 73rd over and such pace. Nice
He needs to be studied. The most overrated cricketer of all time.
Laughable that a certain poster above was harping on about Archer being the best in the world after a few flukey performances in that summer before he was found out and was rubbish, especially in test cricket.
To put him in the same league as the likes of Bumrah, Cummins, Rabada, Starc is hilarious. Especially when your argument is based on 'I don't care about numbers'. If winning world cups in the criteria then starc is the GOAT and no one else matters.
Laughable that a certain poster above was harping on about Archer being the best in the world after a few flukey performances in that summer before he was found out and was rubbish, especially in test cricket.
To put him in the same league as the likes of Bumrah, Cummins, Rabada, Starc is hilarious. Especially when your argument is based on 'I don't care about numbers'. If winning world cups in the criteria then starc is the GOAT and no one else matters.
Again, Haris Rauf speeds and the amount of hype he gets.
He is not even in the top ten fastest bowlers and gets hyped like he's Brett Lee or Shoaib Akhtar in terms of speed.
He is a over hyped Neil Wagner who's only skill is to bowl bouncers.
I would say the best comparison for him is Wahab Riaz except less fit and more prone to injury.
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Oh dear.
Someone is still getting spooked by Jofra in his dreams. The obsession is hilarious.
Someone is still getting spooked by Jofra in his dreams. The obsession is hilarious.
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He is decent but massive overhyped by certain fans. After 4 year of work load he only gets 2 wickets in 1st innings against India at the lord's test and from those two wickets one was from Number 8 test batsman who was slogging at that time. Lol
He's lucky that he kept getting injured otherwise we would have been exposed by now. But 6 years after debuting he is still playing just little enough to keep the hype going for his amazing 91-92mph bowling.He is decent but massive overhyped by certain fans. After 4 year of work load he only gets 2 wickets in 1st innings against India at the lord's test and from those two wickets one was from Number 8 test batsman who was slogging at that time. Lol
Deeply dislikable cricketer aswell, terrible attitude.
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Effortlessly bowling rockets after barely playing FC cricket for years. He just oozes talent.
Joe Root rightly said yesterday that when Archer bowls, the whole crowd is on their feet.
England know how special he is, and they will do everything they can to keep him fit.
Joe Root rightly said yesterday that when Archer bowls, the whole crowd is on their feet.
England know how special he is, and they will do everything they can to keep him fit.
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It is fascinating watching Jofra Archer bowl, we get a glimpse at what the WI bowlers of the late 70s and 80s would have been like....
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It's rare to see fast bowling spells in test cricket. I can't remember the last time seeing a bowler consistently clock 90mph in this format.
Haris is a T20 bowler he couldn't pull this off in tests.
However the real test for a bowler is not the speed gun but how many wickets they take.
Still, he is not close to the likes of Akhtar, Lee, Johnson etc.
Currently wood is faster than him as are a few of the other out and Haris has not really paid test cricket but he's as fast in ODI/ t20.
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Yeah he's nowhere near Akhtar Lee and Johnson. He has promised a lot but not delivered much so far.
Apart from the pace, he also doesn’t have their ability to swing and seam.
Hes just a bouncer specialist who gets some luck due to national variation.
A poor man’s Wagner and similar to a Wahab Riaz mould with bat and ball, without the fitness. The odd exciting spell.
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he has a beutiful smooth action. I enjoy watching him bowl.
He isn't bowling well so far in this innings though.
It’s hard to enjoy anything he does because of his terrible attitude and the overhype he gets.
His rule breaking during Covid which risked people’s life/ so much money, followed by his victim mentality, not to mention the tweeting during test matches because he can’t handle valid criticism.
His action makes it seem effortless but he’s always getting injured and only bowls short.
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He gets plenty of seam movement
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Yes, Rubbish player managed to get Rubbish Jaiswal out twiceHe is decent but massive overhyped by certain fans. After 4 year of work load he only gets 2 wickets in 1st innings against India at the lord's test and from those two wickets one was from Number 8 test batsman who was slogging at that time. Lol
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Anyway Archer isnt a great bowler but sadly their stock is dry. They aren't producing Anderson's anytime soon
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He is having a great comeback
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He is back to his best. Looks 100% fit now and is bowling with serious heat. His pace will only increase as he gets more matches under his belt.
He might have lost several years, but he is still only 30 and has an effortless action. He can play well into his late 30’s if England manage him well.
He is so watchable. A superstar bowler.
He might have lost several years, but he is still only 30 and has an effortless action. He can play well into his late 30’s if England manage him well.
He is so watchable. A superstar bowler.
Outbowled by a 'finished' Stokes nursing a groin injury. He is being made to look better because Woakes is done, there's no Anderson/ Broad, and the others are newbies. A very good third seamer who is lucky he was injured for the last 5 years so he can continue his hype.
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Yes, that pearler to Pant and that C&B of Washington that turned the game upside down were because Woakes is done.
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Looks very ordinary is Australia series . He is Massive overhyped by certain posters. 
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England put many of their eggs in the Archer and Wood basket.
Wood has spent two years bowling in pressurised tents in Loughborough and Archer handled with kid gloves for years too for this moment.
Unfortunately, it hasn't gone to plan so far.
Bumrah got injured in the last match of the India-Aus series and missed crucial sessions which could have saved India. These guys look punctured at the start.
Moral of the story is you need more Carse and Siraj type bowlers than X-factors who fall flat in key moments.
Hopefully Wood and Archer can redeem themselves.
Wood has spent two years bowling in pressurised tents in Loughborough and Archer handled with kid gloves for years too for this moment.
Unfortunately, it hasn't gone to plan so far.
Bumrah got injured in the last match of the India-Aus series and missed crucial sessions which could have saved India. These guys look punctured at the start.
Moral of the story is you need more Carse and Siraj type bowlers than X-factors who fall flat in key moments.
Hopefully Wood and Archer can redeem themselves.
Not a fair comparison, Wood has been the fastest bowler in the world and so will never be able to play consistently without injuries.
Archer is hyped beyond any player I've ever seen in cricket. He gets treated like one of the best bowlers in the world despite having only a couple of fluke performances under his belt .... 6 years ago.
Injured or not, he has been average and his ceiling is a Wahab Riaz type bowler - fantastic bouncer, some brilliant performances but never a reliable bowler let alone anywhere near best in the world as claimed by some uneducated posters for years.
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Hayden criticises Archer for bringing a pillow to Gabba
Jofra Archer has been criticised by former Australia opener Matthew Hayden for the "shocking look" of arriving for the third day of the second Ashes Test with a pillow.
With England needing four wickets to wrap up the Australia first innings in order to keep their Ashes hopes alive, fast bowler Archer was seen before play at the Gabba with a pillow tucked under his arm.
And the 30-year-old was made to wait for his rest as Australia frustrated England throughout the entire opening session.
Though the hosts lost two wickets, they moved to 450-8 by the interval, leading by 116 runs.
Only twice before have England overturned a first-innings deficit of more than 100 to win a Test in Australia. The last time was at the Sydney Cricket Ground in 1979.
"I'm sorry, but that's a shocking look," Hayden, who played 103 Tests, said on Channel 7.
"If I was a batsman, I tell you what I'd be doing, I'd be digging in. Forever.
"It would be exactly what you need as a batsman, I can tell you. You'd be looking over and thinking 'you are never going to sleep on that'.
"Not any part of this day are you going to see that. Not even in the night are you going to see that."
After Australia resumed on 378-6, England captain Ben Stokes had Michael Neser caught behind for 16.
England took the second new ball at 80 overs, with Gus Atkinson taking the edge of Alex Carey for 63.
Archer shared the new ball with Atkinson, bowling five wicketless overs and conceding 13 runs.
And England could not find a way to part ninth-wicket partnership Mitchell Starc and Scott Boland. The pair added 34 runs in 16 overs in the run-up to the break. Starc had moved to 46 and Boland seven.
The extra time spent batting in daylight is vital for Australia. It means England will be facing a newer ball when they bat under floodlights later on Saturday.
England's deflating opening to the third day came after an error-strewn performance on Friday, when the tourists missed five chances in the field.
Former captain Michael Vaughan questioned their preparedness for this Ashes series, saying England looked "jaded".
Archer returned to Test cricket in the home summer after a four-year lay-off because of a string of serious injuries.
The Sussex man had bowled 25 overs by the first interval on the third day in Brisbane, his second-most in a Test innings since 2019 – beaten by the 26.1 he bowled in the first innings of the fourth Test against India at Old Trafford, the second match of his comeback.
On Friday, Archer bowled a seven-over spell immediately after the first interval – his longest uninterrupted spell in Test cricket for five years.
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Jofra Archer has been criticised by former Australia opener Matthew Hayden for the "shocking look" of arriving for the third day of the second Ashes Test with a pillow.
With England needing four wickets to wrap up the Australia first innings in order to keep their Ashes hopes alive, fast bowler Archer was seen before play at the Gabba with a pillow tucked under his arm.
And the 30-year-old was made to wait for his rest as Australia frustrated England throughout the entire opening session.
Though the hosts lost two wickets, they moved to 450-8 by the interval, leading by 116 runs.
Only twice before have England overturned a first-innings deficit of more than 100 to win a Test in Australia. The last time was at the Sydney Cricket Ground in 1979.
"I'm sorry, but that's a shocking look," Hayden, who played 103 Tests, said on Channel 7.
"If I was a batsman, I tell you what I'd be doing, I'd be digging in. Forever.
"It would be exactly what you need as a batsman, I can tell you. You'd be looking over and thinking 'you are never going to sleep on that'.
"Not any part of this day are you going to see that. Not even in the night are you going to see that."
After Australia resumed on 378-6, England captain Ben Stokes had Michael Neser caught behind for 16.
England took the second new ball at 80 overs, with Gus Atkinson taking the edge of Alex Carey for 63.
Archer shared the new ball with Atkinson, bowling five wicketless overs and conceding 13 runs.
And England could not find a way to part ninth-wicket partnership Mitchell Starc and Scott Boland. The pair added 34 runs in 16 overs in the run-up to the break. Starc had moved to 46 and Boland seven.
The extra time spent batting in daylight is vital for Australia. It means England will be facing a newer ball when they bat under floodlights later on Saturday.
England's deflating opening to the third day came after an error-strewn performance on Friday, when the tourists missed five chances in the field.
Former captain Michael Vaughan questioned their preparedness for this Ashes series, saying England looked "jaded".
Archer returned to Test cricket in the home summer after a four-year lay-off because of a string of serious injuries.
The Sussex man had bowled 25 overs by the first interval on the third day in Brisbane, his second-most in a Test innings since 2019 – beaten by the 26.1 he bowled in the first innings of the fourth Test against India at Old Trafford, the second match of his comeback.
On Friday, Archer bowled a seven-over spell immediately after the first interval – his longest uninterrupted spell in Test cricket for five years.
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The quick bowlers these days are made of glass. So much for the advancements of sport science.
Starc may well be the last 145+ bowler of the old guard.
But your point overall is correct, every team needs workhorses at least one or two. But at the same time, the quick bowlers need to show some quality in the short spells they bowl too.
Archer has had both Atkinson and Carse but he’s been abysmal. Wood if at a certain fitness level (he clearly wasn’t in the first test) is a lot more of a threat in his short, sharp spells
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I think molly coddling bowlers and hoping they will eventually roar is ultimately a failed strategy.
If Wood and Archer can't bowl consistently, then perhaps they shouldn't be wrapped in cotton wall and have all this resource spent on them in the hope they will bowl a good spell every two years.
It may sound harsh, because ultimately they are human beings, and can't help the way their bodies respond to stress, but perhaps ( and I say this with the benefit of hindsight), England should have cut their losses a lot sooner.
We are sort of guilty of it too, wasting time with Shaheen and Naseem in Tests, when we could have invested in someone who was up for it, and their body was up for it too.
100% the investment in Archer esp for test comeback was an exercise in futility. Archer even before his injuries was a lazy one.
Makes you appreciate Devon Malcolm - was managed very poorly, but when he played, he ran in over after over.
As for our clowns, I don’t even know where to begin. It’s just crap and crapper. Agreed Naseem and Shaheen have been a waste, but I don’t want 110-120k Abbas and Mir Hamza either.
I think Wasim Jr could be an option, he seems to be a bit stronger, resilient than the two divas. But ultimately we’re scraping..
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Jofra Archer is an overrated piece of worthless pro. Unfit, cocky, overrated, soft, lazy. Everything you wouldn’t want in a bowler . Lad just knows generating 140 kmph balls and few bouncers. He isn't a wicket taker. Massively overrated
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He seems like quite a soft lad who has been treated softly and carefully by management, so is ok going through the motions at times. At the end of the day, under this positive regime, you can imagine them saying well done for trying your best Jofra.
He has it all, smooth and repetitive action, pace, bounce, and can be a very good bowler.
They need to try something different with him. Perhaps some Alex Ferguson style hair dryer treatment and tough love, someone sitting him down and being honest and saying listen you've been sh!t, we didn't bend the residency rules for this crap, get your act together and knock some heads or you're on the scrapheap.
See if he responds.
If he sulks, then just get rid.
He has it all, smooth and repetitive action, pace, bounce, and can be a very good bowler.
They need to try something different with him. Perhaps some Alex Ferguson style hair dryer treatment and tough love, someone sitting him down and being honest and saying listen you've been sh!t, we didn't bend the residency rules for this crap, get your act together and knock some heads or you're on the scrapheap.
See if he responds.
If he sulks, then just get rid.
That’s exactly what’s required but they won’t do it. And if they do, he will sulk like he did after the New Zealand tour 2019/2020.
He has previous
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A slightly better version of Chris Lewis but overall someone who would rather play league cricket than regular test cricket.
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Also, adding to the post.
He's 31 now and at the peak of his bowling prowess. He has until now played less than 20 tests which is abysmal considering he made his debut in 2019 and England play a truckload of tests every year.
If he really wishes to be a cricketing great, he can spend the next 3-5 years focusing on test cricket and in doing so he'll end up close to 70 tests & possibly 250 wickets and a realistic shot of an ashes redemption down under. Unfortunately, the "Wood-Archer speed train" has left platform 9 and three quarters though so he has to form a new bowling partnership with someone more reliable like Brydon Carse or some up & coming young English speedster like Sonny Baker.
If he really wishes to live a good life. however, he should just give up test cricket and play IPL, the Hundred, IL T20, Big Bash, & CPL and enjoy the path that most cricketers of the future will trudge upon.
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