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It appears all this political gimmickry began during the England vs India match, where several dozen Sikhs from the human rights group "Sikhs For Justice" were protesting in favour of the proposed Punjab 2020 referendum. They were however escorted out of the stadium. I suppose this is where the flying banners were arranged from. Question is why is India assuming the Khalistan movement is being backed by Pakistan?


 
They should take this protest to the streets. Khalistan is not gonna be formed on the Cricket field. Sikh's would have been free had they listened to Quaid Jinnah.
 
They should take this protest to the streets. Khalistan is not gonna be formed on the Cricket field. Sikh's would have been free had they listened to Quaid Jinnah.

I think the Sikhs want the whole of Punjab including the part in Pakistan. Or am i wrong?
 
They should take this protest to the streets. Khalistan is not gonna be formed on the Cricket field. Sikh's would have been free had they listened to Quaid Jinnah.

I'm glad they stayed in India, we are OK in our Punjab without them.
 
I'm glad they stayed in India, we are OK in our Punjab without them.

Yeah your glad that Punjab allows India direct access to J&K.

An independent East Punjab directly cuts India off physically from Kashmir.

But be glad.
 
They should take this protest to the streets. Khalistan is not gonna be formed on the Cricket field.

Except that the Sikhs who matter live in India and consider themselves Indians :bhajji

These retired old timers can sing and dance all they like in a foreign country - we only feel like laughing at them.
 
Wow that's a hardcore protest there - I'm sure the Indian establishment is shaking in it's boots.
 
Except that the Sikhs who matter live in India and consider themselves Indians :bhajji

These retired old timers can sing and dance all they like in a foreign country - we only feel like laughing at them.

You mean these "Indian Sikhs" chanting "Khalistan Jindabad" at the Beas

Or you mean this Sikh regiment soldier who says they will pledge allegiance to the idea of Khalistan

I'm a bit confused. Please clarify.
 
Wow that's a hardcore protest there - I'm sure the Indian establishment is shaking in it's boots.

It is. Why else is "Sikhs For Justice" website is blocked in India? Why are its leaders are banned from entering India too? Why is anybody who publicly supports the idea of a referendum arrested without charge?


 
I do not think a new country can be formed now. Times have changed. This independence could've been possible 50-60 years ago.
 
I do not think a new country can be formed now. Times have changed. This independence could've been possible 50-60 years ago.

Borders will change in furture too as they have in the past.

You really cant blame the Sikhs with a BJP right wing Hindu government in power.

Protesting a sporting venue isnt ideal but I guess this is the only way to get their message shown to a large audience. Indians wont even play Pakistan due to politics, so really cant complain against mixing politics and sports.
 
Pakistan should support the Khalistan movement.
 
Yes they can form Khalistan in UK. No issues.

Just give them Indian Punjab beause in time this movement will grow within India and cause a lot of issues for the Far right Hindus. When your friends riddled their holy temple with bullets it was the start of a long struggle. Pakistan should support this movement.
 
Pakistan should support this movement for its own reasons.

1. An independent Indian Punjab physically cuts off India from Jammu & Kashmir.
2. It gives Pakistan back more power over its rivers.

Also, an independent East Punjab allows itself to reengage with its traditional trading partners and routes in West Punjab and its original port of trade (Karachi) via the former North Western State Railway (now Pakistan Railways).

I'd say it's a win-win situation for both parties.
 
Sikhs defn deserve their own country, Brampton or Birmingham not sure though.. coz their population in Punjab has reduced coz immigration to foreign countries which is where they want to settle.

Cant wait to see how referendum 2020 goes though, having an year set to it makes it a goal and when the goal doesn't succeed it would give a clear picture.
 
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Pakistan should support this movement for its own reasons.

1. An independent Indian Punjab physically cuts off India from Jammu & Kashmir.
2. It gives Pakistan back more power over its rivers.

Also, an independent East Punjab allows itself to reengage with its traditional trading partners and routes in West Punjab and its original port of trade (Karachi) via the former North Western State Railway (now Pakistan Railways).

I'd say it's a win-win situation for both parties.

Lahore will be the capital though.. why would you think Guru Nanak's birth place not become the capital?
 
Lahore will be the capital though.. why would you think Guru Nanak's birth place not become the capital?

The movement for an independent Punjab is almost impossible if both India and Pakistan oppose it. In 1947, India gave assurances to Sikhs that they would be protected and so Sikh majority Punjab joined India. By 1955, India already attacked the Golden Temple...again in the 60s and the most famous attack in 1984 followed by the Sikh Genocide.

India failed repeatedly to live up to the promises to protect Sikhs, and so Sikhs would naturally demand autonomy and sovereignty from India. What does Lahore have anything to do with Khalistan? This is just a talking point Indian nationalists like you use to try and get Pakistanis to not support Khalistan.

The entire movement is based out of East Punjab. Sikh separatists themselves have always maintained that they need an allied Pakistan to be a viable state, since India will almost refuse Khalistan from accessing its ports for trade. What other country is left then?

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I don't think independent Punjab is possible without violence. It can only happen through a bloody war. India is unlikely to give it away just like that.

As a neutral, I don't care if this movement succeeds or not. I hope that innocents will not die for no reason.
 
I don't think independent Punjab is possible without violence. It can only happen through a bloody war. India is unlikely to give it away just like that.

Violence already occurred in 1984 when 30,000 Sikhs were mascaraed in a state backed genocide.

As a neutral, I don't care if this movement succeeds or not. I hope that innocents will not die for no reason.

Who would incite violence though? The separatist movement is backing a non-binding referendum in 2020. Nothing about taking up arms or violence...they're even openly putting up their own billboards across Indian Punjab, only to be torn down by Punjab Police and their supporters.

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I know there is a lot of history behind this. On a lighter note, say there was a Khalistan, that would have given one more competitive cricket nation to the world.

Asia Cup would have been even more interesting.
 
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In Bangladesh, we have an area called Sylhet. A lot of folks from Sylhet consider themselves as Sylheti first rather than Bangladeshi first. There was a Sylhet referendum in 1947: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_Sylhet_referendum.

In that referendum, Sylhet folks decided to join East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) rather than India. They are slightly different than rest of Bangladeshis; they have their own dialect.

Even if Khalistan movement wins the referendum, I don't think India will give them independence in peaceful manner. We just have to wait and see.


I know there is a lot of history behind this. On a lighter note, say there was a
Khalistan, that would have given one more competitive cricket nation to the world.

Asia Cup would have been even more interesting.

That would be really great for cricket. Punjab can probably produce a Test quality nation quickly.
 
I think the Sikhs want the whole of Punjab including the part in Pakistan. Or am i wrong?

That is true. They want Lahore that is Muslim majority to be their capital. That is how illogical they are in their thinking. Never gonna happen, forget it!
 
I'm glad they stayed in India, we are OK in our Punjab without them.

Sikh's want to use Pak government, our military and people to form their Khalistan. They made their bed in 1947 now sleep in it. Sikh's are no friends of us Muslim's let that be absolutely clear.
 
Except that the Sikhs who matter live in India and consider themselves Indians :bhajji

These retired old timers can sing and dance all they like in a foreign country - we only feel like laughing at them.

...and you are most welcome to them coz I don't want to many of them in Pak at all:wa. They missed the bus in 1947 when new lines and borders were being drawn, they had no leader like the great Quaid. Their great hero Bhindranwale was just an illiterate villager who met his end in a terrible way. Surely this 2020 referendum whatever it is will be held in East Punjab not London:)):)):))
 
I think the Sikhs want the whole of Punjab including the part in Pakistan. Or am i wrong?

Nope just East Punjab.

Khalistanis certainly want all of Maharaja Ranjit Singh's empire, including the capital Lahore. Sometimes for tactical purposes (that is support from Pakistan) they may say "only East Punjab", but Ranjit Singh's empire is the foundation of their historical identity.
 
Sikhism is a dying religion, there will be no Khalistan, Pakistanis don't support them, we know that sikhs are one of the most Anti Islam community, Lastly Hindus will be majority in Punjab I'n a few decades that is why they want a referendum next year.
 
The movement for an independent Punjab is almost impossible if both India and Pakistan oppose it. In 1947, India gave assurances to Sikhs that they would be protected and so Sikh majority Punjab joined India. By 1955, India already attacked the Golden Temple...again in the 60s and the most famous attack in 1984 followed by the Sikh Genocide.

India failed repeatedly to live up to the promises to protect Sikhs, and so Sikhs would naturally demand autonomy and sovereignty from India. What does Lahore have anything to do with Khalistan? This is just a talking point Indian nationalists like you use to try and get Pakistanis to not support Khalistan.

The entire movement is based out of East Punjab. Sikh separatists themselves have always maintained that they need an allied Pakistan to be a viable state, since India will almost refuse Khalistan from accessing its ports for trade. What other country is left then?

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The movement was always sponsored outside India, ask anyone in Punjab they will tell about how they never want those times to return where everyone was a menace and influenced by stupidity incl police and militants.

Also for one Sikhs are only 58% down from 59-60 In Punjab, second they got a state for them, Haryana was part but they wanted a separate state based on the region which was given, also Sikhs have their Anand act. was passed in 2012 also their demand, so everything is already done.

Another aspect is Holy Sites of Sikhism are across India from Bihar to Maharashtra to Himachal, the whole country can’t be made into Khalistan.

Canada and UK have stopped backing them as well, see the way Jagmeet was drilled in Canada after his refusal to accept air-India bomber as terrorist, things are different, stirring up trouble will always be done, lets see what it amounts to this time , these are the same people that will become a menace for their countries(uk,canada).

Inspite of saying all that , its remarkable how Sikhs turn up supporting Indian cricket team from Uae, Aus,Eng,Nz .. they are the majority but its upto you to believe what you want..
 
I have always had a bias for Sikhism probably coz many family and friends are following Sikhism so it doesn't matter if Khalistan comes in or not but its written
‘Raj karega Khalsa, aaqi rahe na koi’
 
Just give them Indian Punjab beause in time this movement will grow within India and cause a lot of issues for the Far right Hindus. When your friends riddled their holy temple with bullets it was the start of a long struggle. Pakistan should support this movement.

Pakistan should first have enough money to support itself.Right now its living off bailouts.

Khalistan movement has little support in India. They can form khalistan in uk or canada or where ever they have support.

Or since Pakistanis have so much love for khalistanis, they can give them Punjab with Lahore.
 
Why would they form Khalistan in the UK? That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Punjabis are going to want to form an independent Punjabi state in Punjab of all places, not the UK.

Because there is hardly any support for Khalistan in India. Except for a miniscule minority out of millions, khalistan has no support in India.

And what people in UK or Canada etc want, has no significance in India.

Since they have support in UK, they can have their khalistan in UK.
 
I have always had a bias for Sikhism probably coz many family and friends are following Sikhism so it doesn't matter if Khalistan comes in or not but its written
‘Raj karega Khalsa, aaqi rahe na koi

Where and when is this "raj" gonna be? Such cheap slogans do no good for anyone. If Khalistan does not matter then "Raj karega Khalsa" has no significance.
 
The movement was always sponsored outside India, ask anyone in Punjab they will tell about how they never want those times to return where everyone was a menace and influenced by stupidity incl police and militants.

Can you provide evidence it was/is sponsored from outside out India. All I'm hearing is just a lot of crying from India and denial. If this wasn't such a big issue, why are people in Punjab being arrested by simply carrying around Khalistan banners? Infact the "Sikhs For Justice" website as a whole is blocked in India and its leaders banned from entering India. Can you explain why?

Also for one Sikhs are only 58% down from 59-60 In Punjab, second they got a state for them, Haryana was part but they wanted a separate state based on the region which was given, also Sikhs have their Anand act. was passed in 2012 also their demand, so everything is already done.

But the 2020 Referendum specifically states PUNJAB Referendum, not Sikh referendum. Don't "Punjabi Hindus" regard themselves as Punjabi? Hmm.

Secondly, Sikhs never wanted East Punjab to be split up. They wanted the entire Punjab sooba as one and more control over their own affairs.

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The invention of "Haryana" and "Himachal" was done to subdue the Sikh and steal its water. You also haven't addressed the fact that rivers naturally flowing to Punjab are all being diverted to the "Hindi Belt", which is fueling secessionist thoughts again in Punjab.


Another aspect is Holy Sites of Sikhism are across India from Bihar to Maharashtra to Himachal, the whole country can’t be made into Khalistan.

But what does that have to do with Punjab secessionist thoughts? Sikhism's holiest sites are in Pakistan...how did that affect Sikhism? And how is that related to Punjab?

Canada and UK have stopped backing them as well, see the way Jagmeet was drilled in Canada after his refusal to accept air-India bomber as terrorist, things are different, stirring up trouble will always be done, lets see what it amounts to this time , these are the same people that will become a menace for their countries(uk,canada).

The Sikh diaspora are politically strong and active. Not sure who was being "drilled", since Jagmeet seems to have quite a good following in Canada. Worldwide Sikh diaspora are getting governments to recognize the term "Sikh Genocide", while Indians and India continue to pretend the state sanctioned massacre of 30,000 Sikhs was a "riot".

Inspite of saying all that , its remarkable how Sikhs turn up supporting Indian cricket team from Uae, Aus,Eng,Nz .. they are the majority but its upto you to believe what you want..

Right...so because the majority of Bangladeshis support Pakistan cricket team, it must mean they want to rejoin us. Your mental gymnastics are amusing though I must admit.

I'm inclined to believe this:
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Because there is hardly any support for Khalistan in India.

Says who?

Except for a miniscule minority out of millions, khalistan has no support in India.

Says who?

And what people in UK or Canada etc want, has no significance in India.

Really? So why are you crying to the UK and Canadian governments then?

Since they have support in UK, they can have their khalistan in UK.

No, they'll make Khalistan where their natural territory is. Sikhs don't need you people telling them where and what to do...seriously YOU of all people shouldn't be talking. I don't need to remind you who saved your mothers and sisters for over 1000 years.
 
Can you provide evidence it was/is sponsored from outside out India. All I'm hearing is just a lot of crying from India and denial. If this wasn't such a big issue, why are people in Punjab being arrested by simply carrying around Khalistan banners? Infact the "Sikhs For Justice" website as a whole is blocked in India and its leaders banned from entering India. Can you explain why?



But the 2020 Referendum specifically states PUNJAB Referendum, not Sikh referendum. Don't "Punjabi Hindus" regard themselves as Punjabi? Hmm.

Secondly, Sikhs never wanted East Punjab to be split up. They wanted the entire Punjab sooba as one and more control over their own affairs.

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The invention of "Haryana" and "Himachal" was done to subdue the Sikh and steal its water. You also haven't addressed the fact that rivers naturally flowing to Punjab are all being diverted to the "Hindi Belt", which is fueling secessionist thoughts again in Punjab.




But what does that have to do with Punjab secessionist thoughts? Sikhism's holiest sites are in Pakistan...how did that affect Sikhism? And how is that related to Punjab?



The Sikh diaspora are politically strong and active. Not sure who was being "drilled", since Jagmeet seems to have quite a good following in Canada. Worldwide Sikh diaspora are getting governments to recognize the term "Sikh Genocide", while Indians and India continue to pretend the state sanctioned massacre of 30,000 Sikhs was a "riot".



Right...so because the majority of Bangladeshis support Pakistan cricket team, it must mean they want to rejoin us. Your mental gymnastics are amusing though I must admit.

I'm inclined to believe this:
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Ok well for one the currency was printed in UK the bombing of planes surely weren't done by Indian nationals or hidden in India also you can google if needed..

Second Punjab Suba movement is what led to division of Punjab based on the ‘language’ , people in Himachal and Haryana don’t speak Punjabi and it was created by Akalis the Sikh majority party, and mind you Haryana was so unhappy coz that that till 2005 they had Tamil as second language (changed to Punjabi after that).

Sikhs across raise Indian flag in matches too Try again with your insults , lets not forget their % in Indian defense etc..

Punjab referendum is mostly by Sikhs in Canada and UK, why would the Jains and Hindus care when Sikhs in Punjab don’t give a damn!

Sikhs for justice has a political agenda unlike Khalsa-Aid which might be biased but doesn’t twist facts,its their choice to do as they wish in Canada and UK (Sikhs are declared a race here)where they have the support.

I have no issue with your dreams for Khalistan but stop making information based on Sikhs for Justice websites and youtube videos with a bias.

On rivers, check across India how it works, Karnataka and TN keep fighting over Cauvery as well is India trying to divide TN?

Damns and rivers will be constructed as per requirement, nothing against Punjab but yes Punjab should protest against it select leaders that would bring the issue up.

Hindi belt bias is a recent trend by BJP and I’m not denying that, coz they are biased pieces of trash having said that public signs in Gurmukhi are written across Delhi now with the new AAP Govn in power, so its all about votes, language politics is common across India.
 
Says who?



Says who?



Really? So why are you crying to the UK and Canadian governments then?



No, they'll make Khalistan where their natural territory is. Sikhs don't need you people telling them where and what to do...seriously YOU of all people shouldn't be talking. I don't need to remind you who saved your mothers and sisters for over 1000 years.

Mother and sisters? What nonsense are you talking about ? Sikhism not even 1000 years old.
 
Says who?



Says who?

Says Indians. The country of which Punjab is a part. Indians will decide its future. Not Pakistanis not Brits not Canadians, no foreigner will. There is hardly anything they can do.

Really? So why are you crying to the UK and Canadian governments then?

Crying? Lol. To report illegal activities of any foreigner in connection to India is the legal responsibility of India. Since Khalistani terrorists have killed people including a aircraft bombing, which killed Indians,canadians and Brits.

No, they'll make Khalistan where their natural territory is. Sikhs don't need you people telling them where and what to do...seriously YOU of all people shouldn't be talking. I don't need to remind you who saved your mothers and sisters for over 1000 years.

Get this striaght. Punjab is a part of India. So only Indians will decide what will happen to it. YOU of all people shouldnt be talking. But you can cry alright.

What 1000 years saving? Who save whom from whom?
 
Sikhism is a dying religion, there will be no Khalistan, Pakistanis don't support them, we know that sikhs are one of the most Anti Islam community, Lastly Hindus will be majority in Punjab I'n a few decades that is why they want a referendum next year.

Sikhism is far from a dying religion, if anything its a flourishing religion and will spread over the years coz of the charitable institution and notable figures increasing,It has straight forward rules and many Hindus in Punjab and Delhi always go for getting blessings in Gurdwaras.
 
Where and when is this "raj" gonna be? Such cheap slogans do no good for anyone. If Khalistan does not matter then "Raj karega Khalsa" has no significance.

Thats the point it doesn’t matter whether Khalistan is created, Ik Onkar
 
Thats the point it doesn’t matter whether Khalistan is created, Ik Onkar

Then they should stop with this "Khalistan Zindabad" nonsense. "Zindabad" is only something that exists in reality. This Indian pal of mine tells me by "Khalistan Zindabad" Sikhs mean "long live the empty land":)):)):)). Khali means empty in Urdu, Hindi and Punjabi!! You are right in saying that Sikhism is an extension of Hinduism.
 
Then they should stop with this "Khalistan Zindabad" nonsense. "Zindabad" is only something that exists in reality. This Indian pal of mine tells me by "Khalistan Zindabad" Sikhs mean "long live the empty land":)):)):)). Khali means empty in Urdu, Hindi and Punjabi!! You are right in saying that Sikhism is an extension of Hinduism.

I didn’t say Sikhism is an extension of Hinduism anywhere, as said before Hinduism is to Sikhism what Christianity is to Islam hope that clears it up.
 
I didn’t say Sikhism is an extension of Hinduism anywhere, as said before Hinduism is to Sikhism what Christianity is to Islam hope that clears it up.

I am saying Sikhism is an extension of Hinduism. Christians do not recognise Rasoolullah(SAW) as a Prophet where we we don't do Paul. We have many more similarities with the Jews then the Christians.
 
I didn’t say Sikhism is an extension of Hinduism anywhere, as said before Hinduism is to Sikhism what Christianity is to Islam hope that clears it up.

Sikhs would get mad at you for claiming that Sikhisms roots lie in Hinduism.
 
I am saying Sikhism is an extension of Hinduism. Christians do not recognise Rasoolullah(SAW) as a Prophet where we we don't do Paul. We have many more similarities with the Jews then the Christians.

Judaism then and Sikhism is not an extension but a different religion.

Sikhs would get mad at you for claiming that Sikhisms roots lie in Hinduism.

The root does lie because of its Dharmic nature and Guru Nanakji being a Hindu, Sikhs get angry when its said its an extension or under the umbrella of Hinduism , which is untrue its a complete different religion which has many similarities with mention of Hindu Gods in a different aspect.
 
Judaism then and Sikhism is not an extension but a different religion.



The root does lie because of its Dharmic nature and Guru Nanakji being a Hindu, Sikhs get angry when its said its an extension or under the umbrella of Hinduism , which is untrue its a complete different religion which has many similarities with mention of Hindu Gods in a different aspect.

Muslim's look as Sikhism as an extension of Hinduism. This as Nanak is not revered by Muslim's asa Prophet or anything for that matter. Judaism is separate from Islam for sure.
 
You mean these "Indian Sikhs" chanting "Khalistan Jindabad" at the Beas

Or you mean this Sikh regiment soldier who says they will pledge allegiance to the idea of Khalistan

I'm a bit confused. Please clarify.

Youtube is a great place to spend your dreams. It's also a great place to find confused Khalistanis too
 
Sikhism is far from a dying religion, if anything its a flourishing religion and will spread over the years coz of the charitable institution and notable figures increasing,It has straight forward rules and many Hindus in Punjab and Delhi always go for getting blessings in Gurdwaras.

Remind me of Punjabs fertility rate again?.
 
Khalistan Zindabad.

Only shameless Sikhs support India. Real Sikhs wants freedom and even their own dalits (achoots) wants freedom from them. :inzi2
 
KHALISTAN ZINDABAD

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Photo of baloch terrorist getting treated at Max hospital Delhi.

Thats just a random picture of some guy (possibly Baluch, I don't know) in a hospital. How is that max hospital in del?

Also, the little card on top of the head ,it seems to be written in Urdu.
 
Thats just a random picture of some guy (possibly Baluch, I don't know) in a hospital. How is that max hospital in del?

Also, the little card on top of the head ,it seems to be written in Urdu.

Check the Max hospital logo, Cared is written in English and urdu is written from right to left.
 
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