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[VIDEOS] Mohammad Hasnain : International cricket performance watch

Made himself undroppable for the next match. Far and away the best Pakistani bowler today.
 
Always looked a talent in the making, from what I've seen in the last year, he may have developed into the real thing. He's quick and is hitting the right lines now. Very promising.
 
hasanali said:
Seemed to me he wasn't bowling that quickly today. 86-88 mph. Maybe I missed something?

Still an excellent performance mind you.
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You don't want to be bowling full tilt in these conditions, can slip out really easily. However, the low full toss that Willey scooped for 4 in the 18th over was 90-91 mph, iirc.
 
Interesting to hear Broad suggesting that it was the difference in pace between the sides that made the difference.
 
Heavy ball bowler and mixes it really well.

Glad he played ahead of Sir Faheem today.
 
Always said Hasnain should play ahead of Haris, and recently I had come to conclusion better to have him over Fahim too, since the later hardly scores runs that Hasnain is not capable of.
 
4 overs for 28 today and a wicket when the conditions were such that both the teams scored 200+ was a top effort especially considering that he usually gets a game after big gaps.
 
I hope Faheem is dropped from t20 and ODIs.He can’t bowl or bat.Has no pace so on flat pitches he will go for plenty of runs.Not sure about Haris.He did not come through domestic system.He has not played any first class cricket.He had the pace but he is not a smart bowler.He has to improve his accuracy and not give eady runs if he wants to play for Pakistan.If he can be economical than he is not bad.
 
Finally we can say here is a bowler who actually looks like he is developing under the current coaches. Bowled really well today.
 
He should have played the odis he's a much better bowler than Rauf but he needs to improve his death bowling.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Bowl fast and accurately. Considering the spray gun efforts of other Pakistan pacers, that shouldn't be taken as a given.
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Whether it's my expectations but I see a guy that doesn't look like getting any players out. He was good yesterday and looks better than Haris because he doesn't bowl as much rubbish, but I am expecting him to kick on.
 
Bewal Express said:
Whether it's my expectations but I see a guy that doesn't look like getting any players out. He was good yesterday and looks better than Haris because he doesn't bowl as much rubbish, but I am expecting him to kick on.
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I think that will be more of an issue in the longer format game.
 
He hasn't really improved as much as he should have given his debut in 2019
 
Abid Z said:
Finally we can say here is a bowler who actually looks like he is developing under the current coaches. Bowled really well today.
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Definitely heading in the right direction.

There will be hiccups along the way, but I have some faith in this lad. His run-up and approach is a lot smoother now and he's looking a lot stronger too.
 
People are too critical of Pakistan bowlers.These bowlers are young and inexperienced(except Hassan Ali).Starc,Rabada ,Nortje etc are getting smashed too.
 
During the warm-ups Waqar was moving the length markers around, full, yorker, short, back of a length - this guy was the one hitting the markers on a consistent basis out of all the pace bowlers.
 
Saj said:
During the warm-ups Waqar was moving the length markers around, full, yorker, short, back of a length - this guy was the one hitting the markers on a consistent basis out of all the pace bowlers.
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So this guy clearly has great control along with express pace. What he seems to be lacking is experience and bowling IQ. Both of these will come if he's given more games so he can be developed as a complete bowler. This why I'm against having Amir and co back. You can win a few games in the short term but lose out massively in the long run.
 
Almost 3 years with the national team. Has only played 2 FC in the meantime. Inconsistent as always.
Gets a good game here and there. International cricket is not the place to develop cricketers.
 
Dont see any improvement in Hasnain to be honest.
 
Until he plays fc cricket and earns his bread and butter , learns the art of bowling and does the hard yards.

It's pointless playing the guy in t20s expecting him to deliver.
Just because he has pace.
 
Should stick to pyjama and chaddi leagues.

Arshad Iqbal didn't do anything wrong vs Zimbabwe, didn't play in England or West Indies, was second best wicket-taker in National T20 yet was dropped for this guy ?
 
Markhor said:
Should stick to pyjama and chaddi leagues.

Arshad Iqbal didn't do anything wrong vs Zimbabwe, didn't play in England or West Indies, was second best wicket-taker in National T20 yet was dropped for this guy ?
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Agreed. Not sure why we keep persisting with him. What has he done? Nothing keeps getting selected.
 
looks like hes running up and just bowling in the same spot with same pace over and over agan, no variations whatsoever
 
shamaan said:
Needs to play domestic cricket.didnt look like he would take a wicket.
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Agree.He needs to learn how to bowl good yorkers,bouncers and good length balls.He will have plenty to practice.He was one dimensional today,did not try any variations.
 
Artaxerxes said:
Agree.He needs to learn how to bowl good yorkers,bouncers and good length balls.He will have plenty to practice.He was one dimensional today,did not try any variations.
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To be honest he did bowl a few good yorkers but when he tried to bowl a bouncer it just set up he doesn't look like a 145kph bowler and is gun barrel straight.
 
I do not rate him at all. He is a poor mans Mohammed Sami with the ball. He has pace but gets smacked everywhere. Pace means nothing if you cannot get wickets somehow, batsmen will just look to time and place the ball in the right areas; the runs will come for them. Tons of better fast bowlers out there in the country. Punjab and KPK (KPK has improved dramatically) are the hubs of fast bowling talent and forever will be. Sindh has potential but I am yet to see anything but I hope a good fast bowler from there makes an entrance.
 
I have said this before about numerous bowlers in the past, and will say it again. Have to give them time.

Have seen this with Shaheen, Hasan, Rauf, Naseem, etc before. Premature expectations attached to a youngster and then excessive criticism when he hasn't delivered.

Hasnain is a special talent. He bowls easy raw pace, hits the hard length, can swing it, has an excellent yorker and a mean bouncer. Most of all, has a cool head on his shoulders. He may not be in the best of forms at the moment, but express bowling talents like him, Naseem, Rauf (and more) need to be nurtured with patience and have to be given concrete confidence of not being dropped after a couple of poor matches.
 
OmarKhan99 said:
I have said this before about numerous bowlers in the past, and will say it again. Have to give them time.

Have seen this with Shaheen, Hasan, Rauf, Naseem, etc before. Premature expectations attached to a youngster and then excessive criticism when he hasn't delivered.

Hasnain is a special talent. He bowls easy raw pace, hits the hard length, can swing it, has an excellent yorker and a mean bouncer. Most of all, has a cool head on his shoulders. He may not be in the best of forms at the moment, but express bowling talents like him, Naseem, Rauf (and more) need to be nurtured with patience and have to be given concrete confidence of not being dropped after a couple of poor matches.
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I agree, he has potential. I think he just needs to play more competitive cricket. It's hard to improve bowling in the nets or sitting on the bench.
 
OmarKhan99 said:
I have said this before about numerous bowlers in the past, and will say it again. Have to give them time.

Have seen this with Shaheen, Hasan, Rauf, Naseem, etc before. Premature expectations attached to a youngster and then excessive criticism when he hasn't delivered.

Hasnain is a special talent. He bowls easy raw pace, hits the hard length, can swing it, has an excellent yorker and a mean bouncer. Most of all, has a cool head on his shoulders. He may not be in the best of forms at the moment, but express bowling talents like him, Naseem, Rauf (and more) need to be nurtured with patience and have to be given concrete confidence of not being dropped after a couple of poor matches.
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I disagree. He's far from being a special bowler. His control over his lines n lengths has been awful always. Yet to sort his run up
 
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Hasnain is like a bowling machine which only has 2 settings. Short ball or yorker.

Just look at Dahani and look at Hasnain. You will figure out what talent really means. Time to look at other options.
 
gazza619 said:
Hasnain is like a bowling machine which only has 2 settings. Short ball or yorker.

Just look at Dahani and look at Hasnain. You will figure out what talent really means. Time to look at other options.
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He just doesnt seem to have the attitude or fire to be a bowler

Good fast bowlers are a special breed They dont just run up and bowl without thinking or planning You have to be aggressive n bowl with a passion

Hasnain just seem too soft like sami, who lost confidence too easily
 
Zaz said:
He just doesnt seem to have the attitude or fire to be a bowler

Good fast bowlers are a special breed They dont just run up and bowl without thinking or planning You have to be aggressive n bowl with a passion

Hasnain just seem too soft like sami, who lost confidence too easily
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Yeh there was another bowler but he was a left hander and had much better natural ability than hasnain and had domestic performances behind him called rahat ali , he was another who never had that aggression and lackadaisical attitude and horrible fitness and fielding .
 
Everytime I have seen this lad play either in T20 leagues or international cricket, he is always getting smashed. I do think he has some potential but does he have a brain?
 
Feel he should have played more first-class matches for Sindh this season, although his record in the 4 matches he played isn't much to write home about: 7 wickets at 50.28

He needs to be taken out of the firing line in international cricket, he's nowhere ready to be bowling at that level.
 
He should definitely be playing more domestic cricket. Especially FC cricket. He has successfully been overtaken by Mohammad Wasim Jnr and Shahnawaz Dhani.

He has the pace but that's pretty much it. He needs some work and consistent games in domestic cricket.
 
Dahani is an exceptional talent as well, but he is more mature (age-wise and general game-wise) than Hasnain, despite being new to the scene. Hasnain will get there eventually, especially since his run up change will take time to settle into.

Also, in regards to the Rahat Ali comparison, Hasnain is exceptionally fit and also pretty decent in the field. So that comparison doesn't really make sense.

There isn't just one singular mould of being a successful bowler. Being passionate is good, but that doesn't make bowlers who don't rub it in the batsmen's face after getting them dismissed, aren't any good. A good recent example is Bumrah. There are different avenues of displaying that said passion.
 
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OmarKhan99 said:
Dahani is an exceptional talent as well, but he is more mature (age-wise and general game-wise) than Hasnain, despite being new to the scene. Hasnain will get there eventually, especially since his run up change will take time to settle into.

Also, in regards to the Rahat Ali comparison, Hasnain is exceptionally fit and also pretty decent in the field. So that comparison doesn't really make sense.

There isn't just one singular mould of being a successful bowler. Being passionate is good, but that doesn't make bowlers who don't rub it in the batsmen's face after getting them dismissed, aren't any good. A good recent example is Bumrah. There are different avenues of displaying that said passion.
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Am not sure husnain is a better fielder in fact I have seen him drop catches midfield multiple times whenever he has played.
 
krazystrong said:
Hasnain has shown little improvement despite being on the scene for almost 3 years now.
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Some of this can be put down to Waqar as every young pacer stayed stagnant under his bowling coaching.

Only now are we seeing some growth from our pace stocks so Hasnain can catch up.
 
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OmarKhan99 said:
Dahani is an exceptional talent as well, but he is more mature (age-wise and general game-wise) than Hasnain, despite being new to the scene. Hasnain will get there eventually, especially since his run up change will take time to settle into.

Also, in regards to the Rahat Ali comparison, Hasnain is exceptionally fit and also pretty decent in the field. So that comparison doesn't really make sense.

There isn't just one singular mould of being a successful bowler. Being passionate is good, but that doesn't make bowlers who don't rub it in the batsmen's face after getting them dismissed, aren't any good. A good recent example is Bumrah. There are different avenues of displaying that said passion.
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The comparison with rahat ali is that hasnain is worse.

Rahat ali had natural talent and a good physique, and produced some very good swing bowling spells at test level he could move the ball he was also a solid qea performer and selection was on merit.

But like what has been said his attitude and demeanor wasn't very good alongside being a comical fielder .

Hasnain on the other hand can't swing or seam and is gun barrel straight either bowling back of a length and try to bowl yorkers he's poor.
 
Artaxerxes said:
He is quick.He was bowling close to 150kph in CPL.He needs to learn how to swing the ball and also bowl test match lengths like Hazelwood.
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He isnt quick,the speed gun could show 200kph, but he doesn't hurry anyone and in my book that means he isn't quick. He doesn't get swing very often and when he does, it's out of the hand , he mostly gets drift, and if you know your cricket, you will know what I mean. The guy is awful.
 
Bewal Express said:
He isnt quick,the speed gun could show 200kph, but he doesn't hurry anyone and in my book that means he isn't quick. He doesn't get swing very often and when he does, it's out of the hand , he mostly gets drift, and if you know your cricket, you will know what I mean. The guy is awful.
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I'd have to agree, he's always looked an ordinary cricketer whenever he's played international cricket.

The run-up is inconsistent; the release position is scrambled; the body is falling away at the point of loading up; too many technical issues to fix for an international coach.

I don't care who was coaching Pakistan, they were never likely to convert Hasnain into a serviceable international bowler.

He needs to play domestic cricket for a couple of years before even getting a look in for international selection.
 
He looks a copy of mohammad sami. Who always looked great promising prospect, produced some great spells but overall below average, smashed all over the park and have no control
 
Adi_62945 said:
He looks a copy of mohammad sami. Who always looked great promising prospect, produced some great spells but overall below average, smashed all over the park and have no control
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Mohammed Sami was a much better bowler. And if he had a brain cell or 2, he would have been a top bowler for us
 
Last Monetarist said:
I'd have to agree, he's always looked an ordinary cricketer whenever he's played international cricket.

The run-up is inconsistent; the release position is scrambled; the body is falling away at the point of loading up; too many technical issues to fix for an international coach.

I don't care who was coaching Pakistan, they were never likely to convert Hasnain into a serviceable international bowler.

He needs to play domestic cricket for a couple of years before even getting a look in for international selection.
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I agree Hasnain needs to play much more domestic cricket and its to the PCB and selectors shame that the guy has played a half a dozen FC games in the last 3 years. The speed guns show speed out of the hand and its obvious that he is losing more speed off the pitch than he should( everyone loses speed but some much more than others). Surely that is a wrist issue and with work, it could be solved.
 
Bewal Express said:
Mohammed Sami was a much better bowler. And if he had a brain cell or 2, he would have been a top bowler for us
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Sami has to be the poorest bowler to have played so much test cricket

His test stats are testament to that A bowling avge of 53 after so many test matches is truly awful

You couldnt get a worse test bowler than sami full stop
 
Zaz said:
Sami has to be the poorest bowler to have played so much test cricket

His test stats are testament to that A bowling avge of 53 after so many test matches is truly awful

You couldnt get a worse test bowler than sami full stop
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Sami has poor stats but those of us that watched the matches never felt he was terrible. He certainly never reached anywhere near the potential.
 
An international match here and there isn't ideal for his development.

He seems to be edging towards a T20 specialist which isn't ideal.
 
Bewal Express said:
Sami has poor stats but those of us that watched the matches never felt he was terrible. He certainly never reached anywhere near the potential.
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Ive watched his bowling throughout his career

He had a the worst attributes a bowler could possess

He was short n skiddy, inaccurate, prone to losing his confidence v easily and had no plan or thought process behind his bowling

The more he bowled the worse he got He just seemed to be a deer caught in headlights when he was being hit around

Hasnain Is still young and has time to turn things around Hes just got to start showing some confidence in himself which the likes of shaheen have
 
Zaz said:
Ive watched his bowling throughout his career

He had a the worst attributes a bowler could possess

He was short n skiddy, inaccurate, prone to losing his confidence v easily and had no plan or thought process behind his bowling

The more he bowled the worse he got He just seemed to be a deer caught in headlights when he was being hit around

Hasnain Is still young and has time to turn things around Hes just got to start showing some confidence in himself which the likes of shaheen have
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I disagree, he wasn't awful, he was a bit thick and because of that he never became the bowler we had hoped for. Most of our bowlers are short and that is a problem but for Sami didn't bowl to the conditions and that was his biggest problem. A poor seam was also a problem and Hasnain also has that problem.
 
mazkhan said:
The comparison with rahat ali is that hasnain is worse.

Rahat ali had natural talent and a good physique, and produced some very good swing bowling spells at test level he could move the ball he was also a solid qea performer and selection was on merit.

But like what has been said his attitude and demeanor wasn't very good alongside being a comical fielder .

Hasnain on the other hand can't swing or seam and is gun barrel straight either bowling back of a length and try to bowl yorkers he's poor.
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The comparison doesn't make sense because of a few different reasons.

First, Hasnain is an express pace bowler, while Rahat was a swinging fast-medium bowler (at best). It's like comparing how much Wood swings the ball compared to Woakes. Apples and oranges. Second, Hasnain entered the side as a teenager and is still 21, while we only saw the Rahat enter at what is typically a fastbowler's peak (25-27). Judging players at different stages of their career will obviously skew a perspective.

About the fielding and awareness, Rahat did have a lack of conviction, but that doesn't seem to be the case with Hasnain as he does throw himself around the field (as evident in the T20I he just played).

Like I said, time will tell how Hasnain will fare, but I've seen this too often. Many criticise prematurely and sometimes forego the obvious potential. This even happened to Babar back in the beginning of 2018 and Shaheen back in mid-2019 (just after the ENG series and WC2019 warm up games). Some of comments on those threads are comical in hindsight. Good and bad form come and go.
 
Looking at his domestic numbers, long-term ODI will probably end up being the format he excels in.

He does need to find something to excel in whether that's bowling in powerplay or death or being a good line/length bowler. Too often he is just bowling short/back of length and wide - that is a major area of improvement.

Somehow despite his pace, he doesn't seem to hurry the batsmen either. Still young enough to figure it out but doesn't seem like a high IQ player IMO.
 
OmarKhan99 said:
The comparison doesn't make sense because of a few different reasons.

First, Hasnain is an express pace bowler, while Rahat was a swinging fast-medium bowler (at best). It's like comparing how much Wood swings the ball compared to Woakes. Apples and oranges. Second, Hasnain entered the side as a teenager and is still 21, while we only saw the Rahat enter at what is typically a fastbowler's peak (25-27). Judging players at different stages of their career will obviously skew a perspective.

About the fielding and awareness, Rahat did have a lack of conviction, but that doesn't seem to be the case with Hasnain as he does throw himself around the field (as evident in the T20I he just played).

Like I said, time will tell how Hasnain will fare, but I've seen this too often. Many criticise prematurely and sometimes forego the obvious potential. This even happened to Babar back in the beginning of 2018 and Shaheen back in mid-2019 (just after the ENG series and WC2019 warm up games). Some of comments on those threads are comical in hindsight. Good and bad form come and go.
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Hasnain express pace bowler 😄

I never said rahat and hasnain bowling are the same , my comparison is that rahat ali was more gifted but essentially never cut it because he didn't have the persona of a fast bowler and was gutless and half hearted no aggression or high bowling iq.

Hasnain is similar In attitude but unlike rahat he can't Do anything with the ball other than bowl gun barrel straight at back of a length and see the ball dissappear to the rope.
Hasnain also doesn't deserve to be in the squad because he has done nothing of exceptional ability at domestic cricket and has been fast tracked into the team on no basis.
 
mazkhan said:
Hasnain express pace bowler ��

I never said rahat and hasnain bowling are the same , my comparison is that rahat ali was more gifted but essentially never cut it because he didn't have the persona of a fast bowler and was gutless and half hearted no aggression or high bowling iq.

Hasnain is similar In attitude but unlike rahat he can't Do anything with the ball other than bowl gun barrel straight at back of a length and see the ball dissappear to the rope.
Hasnain also doesn't deserve to be in the squad because he has done nothing of exceptional ability at domestic cricket and has been fast tracked into the team on no basis.
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I am not sure how that's supposed to be funny. Might want to take it up with Cricinfo, and the likes, if you have trouble with that statement.

The remaining bits are subjective and something I've already elaborated on. No point reiterating. Let's see what the future holds.
 
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