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Hit 150KpH in the BPL yesterday

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BpL has a history of inflated speed guns to add spice in the tourney and to excite the audience remembered Sami clocking 159kph for that defunct Duronto Rajshahi in yellow outfit a decade back
 
150kph at the BPL?

Are we sure the speed guns are accurate there?
 
Doubt speed guns are accurate tbh... saw a post in another thread about Salman Irshan bowling 150s too... equipment probably 10kph too fast...
 
as-95 said:
Doubt speed guns are accurate tbh... saw a post in another thread about Salman Irshan bowling 150s too... equipment probably 10kph too fast...
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Hyder said:
Havent seen him bowl 150 but have seen him crank it up to 147 a few times
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I am afraid thora ziyada hogaya with this speed guns at BPL
 
Would love to see an interview of this guy. So far, I only see him take wickets with the in-swinging delivery to right-handers onto the stumps. Only one threatening delivery will not be enough on the international level. The other teams can simply prepare for that. I wonder if how he is working on developing his swing/seam both ways and improving his accuracy and pace. Worst thing is to have him focus on batting instead.
 
He is young and has great potential to become a useful all rounder Pakistan has been looking for . We wasted so many years on Faheem Ashraf , lets invest on him.
 
Economy rate of 11.43 at PSL 8.

I know the wickets are batting friendly but those numbers are extremely poor.
 
Saj said:
Economy rate of 11.43 at PSL 8.

I know the wickets are batting friendly but those numbers are extremely poor.
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I had high hopes for this lad but looks like another headless chicken running in and getting carted around.

Also had high hopes for his batting been nothing but shambles. He’s turned into a Alan Mullaly.
 
2 wickets for 50 runs in the 3rd ODI vs NZ, including this wicket

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I think they showed some stats in which he is the most economical bowler after Naseem Shah in ODI's since 2019.

Loses the plot at times which is a pity. Decent back up bowler in limited overs cricket.
 
For ODI wasim jnr, is a good option, he can bowl well, in particular the middle overs, is a great fielder and can chip in with the bat as well.
 
He is underrated, got a lovely yorker. Sure he goes for runs sometimes but he is a wicket taker and they are like gold dust in ODI's
 
he's learning and is work in progress.

He has the ability to take wickets, but his weakness is his predictability at times especially when under pressure.
 
He is a good player but I don't think I can trust him to win us games. He leaks runs and doesn't contain, with other teams playing very attacking cricket (regardless of format) Don't seem to make it to playing X1 for me.
 
Guys with slingy action tend to wilt more under pressure than the traditional high action bowlers. There have been a few exceptions like Malinga but generally I don't trust them
 
Very underrated cricket his stats in odis and t20s are very good and pluss he's a good fielder.
 
Rather than wasting time on pathetic Faheem, keep investing on this guy. He has been improving steadily and has great potential.
 
Mohammad Wasim Jr. has moved from outside the top 100 to 69th overall after his six wickets from three games in latest ODI Rankings for bowlers
 
Abdul Razzaq in a recent interview:

"If we talk about Mohammad Wasim Jnr, we brought him from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. I think he was selected for Pakistan team too early"

"Wasim Jnr should have played more domestic cricket and bowled longer spells over there before getting selected. Now, he plays few matches for Pakistan and then sits out in the rest of the matches. You can never groom a player like that"
 
Been decent with his speeds vs Afghanistan in the 3rd ODI

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his main strength is old ball reverse swing. which won't be happening today due to wet outfield and shortened game. so i dont think he can get anything more than a wicket due to false stroke maybe a surprise bouncer, etc. also target is very comfortable so they won't need to take much risks anyway.
 
mon858 said:
his main strength is old ball reverse swing. which won't be happening today due to wet outfield and shortened game. so i dont think he can get anything more than a wicket due to false stroke maybe a surprise bouncer, etc. also target is very comfortable so they won't need to take much risks anyway.
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He has a half decent slower ball as well. I think he will need to use that a fair bit today on a pitch like this
 
He can be a part of T20I side for Pakistan but he doesn't look good enough to play ODI cricket for Pakistan yet.
 
Sorry but the more I see, the less impressed I get.

He has no stock delivery. Has a good yorker and can reverse swing an older ball at pace. That's it.

Went for 13 in his first over, and despite being a supposed all-rounder he batted #9, below Shaheen, vs SL.

Needs to play a full season of FC cricket to work on the basics.
 
Yeah, much like Zaman, his only weapon is reverse swing. If you give him the new ball or even the semi-new ball, he'll travel. Doesn't have great control, the action isn't suited for swing, especially outswing and doesn't have the pace to make up for it.

That's why I've been a broken record about the necessity of a proper new ball bowler as a squad option. They're saying that Naseem might not recover in time for the world cup. That would be a huge loss but the think-tank needs to be smart about it and realize that Wasim, Zaman and Dahani are not your replacements. Arshad Iqbal is.
 
I don't know why Wasim is consistently getting selected for the Pakistan team, He has zero performance through out his career, it might be better to give Hassan Ali a chance instead.
 
Most likely he'll end up playing a lot of cricket this World Cup. One can only hope he steps up, expectations are pretty low for him.
 
The issue with him is first he hardly gets a match to play but ob the other hand always gets selected for pakistan team. He should have developed by playing domestic season I stead we wasted him. I have no faith in him to deliver in the world cup I will bring hassan ali for him
 
Cricket Warrior said:
I don't know why Wasim is consistently getting selected for the Pakistan team, He has zero performance through out his career, it might be better to give Hassan Ali a chance instead.
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A contradictory post imo. Hassan Ali have been given many chances as well. I saw a list here at PP with 10-12 bowlers consistenly bowling over 140s, where are they now, or was that only for T20s?

Hasnain has been a disappointment as well, with that pace he should have been a handful, but our pacy bowlers end up like Mohammad Sami and Wahab Riaz, good pace but get destroyed.
 
If only he was slightly taller. Good support bowler. Has good pace. Good Clip. Nice easy action.

Can swing the bat too. Is not a mug. Can slog.

Excellent utility player. He should be picked in my opinion.
 
The reality is that he was fast tracked into the team because of his supposed "all round" skills. Once we found out that he can't bat at all, he should've been discarded because there are quite a few bowlers ahead of him on bowling skills alone.
 
kron said:
If only he was slightly taller. Good support bowler. Has good pace. Good Clip. Nice easy action.

Can swing the bat too. Is not a mug. Can slog.

Excellent utility player. He should be picked in my opinion.
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He's over 6 feet tall.
 
After staying with the team for last 2-3 years we are still not sure what to expect from waseem because he hardly plays and when he plays he's been crap
 
After his stint in T20 World Cup 2022 in Australia. Big Call for Muhammad Wasim Jr as he has been selected for Cricket World Cup 2023. In my opinion it is a wrong call, because he is not a mature bowler yet.
 
Omg how awful is this guy. I saw him properly today after lots of little cameos and T20 outings and he is just simply the worst bowler I’ve seen in ages. Can somebody please explain to me what he is doing in this team.

Now I know Pakistan bowling is basically SSA, Naseem and haris after whom we really have to develop a second tier but this guy is not the answer. He’s not good enough to warm the bench. Of course it’s really confusing because he has everything. Strength, stamina height speed. He can swing and Seam but one thing he can’t do is land the ball on the spot to utilise any of those. Normally you would say go back to domestic to hone these skills but he is completely bereft of talent despite possessing those key attributes. What does everybody see in him. I just don’t get. Even his wicket today at the death was off a rank full toss.
 
i dont know why PCB is sticking with this useless bowler when we have better options playing in domestic circuit.

Arshad Iqbal is the one example.
 
Some of his yorkers were really good in T20 WC and he had a decent game or two, but guess he is not consistent.
 
I think Abbas Afridi was the highest wicket taker at PSL. Can any of my Pakistani friends shed some light as to why he wasn't considered? Is he just a t20 bowler? I am sure he would have bowled better than Wasim and bat as much as Wasim. Its a joke to consider him as an all rounder.
 
Abid Z said:
Omg how awful is this guy. I saw him properly today after lots of little cameos and T20 outings and he is just simply the worst bowler I’ve seen in ages. Can somebody please explain to me what he is doing in this team.

Now I know Pakistan bowling is basically SSA, Naseem and haris after whom we really have to develop a second tier but this guy is not the answer. He’s not good enough to warm the bench. Of course it’s really confusing because he has everything. Strength, stamina height speed. He can swing and Seam but one thing he can’t do is land the ball on the spot to utilise any of those. Normally you would say go back to domestic to hone these skills but he is completely bereft of talent despite possessing those key attributes. What does everybody see in him. I just don’t get. Even his wicket today at the death was off a rank full toss.
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I know he has looked awful in both Sri Lanka game and now this warm-up, but he had been bowling very well in the ODIs played previously. Has been warming the bench for too long and actually lost his form in the Emerging Asia Cup.

He is a decent bowler, just going through a lean patch. His loss of form means free buffet bowler Hasan Ali now plays though.
 
Usman Chadda said:
I know he has looked awful in both Sri Lanka game and now this warm-up, but he had been bowling very well in the ODIs played previously. Has been warming the bench for too long and actually lost his form in the Emerging Asia Cup.

He is a decent bowler, just going through a lean patch. His loss of form means free buffet bowler Hasan Ali now plays though.
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aligned here. He was actually bowling pretty well. What do you think happened to his form? Just needs a few games to get his rhythm and confidence back?
 
Forget about his bowling for a moment which is already as bad as it is, his pathetic fielding yesterday deserved an earful.
 
Farabi said:
aligned here. He was actually bowling pretty well. What do you think happened to his form? Just needs a few games to get his rhythm and confidence back?
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Lost form at the wrong time thats all. Happens to every player, his line is completely off when at his best he targets the stumps and goes for wickets at pace. He did go for runs before too, but always went for the fuller length within the stumps.

Right now he is spraying it around more than usual and not sticking to his strength, which is wicket-to-wicket bowling.
 
Clown of a bowler and a fielder. This guy's selection is infuriating. Heads must roll along with the beards.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Lost form at the wrong time thats all. Happens to every player, his line is completely off when at his best he targets the stumps and goes for wickets at pace. He did go for runs before too, but always went for the fuller length within the stumps.

Right now he is spraying it around more than usual and not sticking to his strength, which is wicket-to-wicket bowling.
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Agreed. He gets his wickets bowled/LBW and did better when he kept it wicket to wicket.
He actually was instrumental in helping Pak clinch ODI series vs Aus and NZ. He did well at the T20 WC as well. He can get pacy and bowls a mean Yorker.
He was sidelined by Naseem btw
I am really hoping he can get back his form because I actually do rate him. He’s a good bowler and nothing to sniff at.
 
Savak said:
The guy needs a few games. Once he consistently started playing for Pakistan, we saw his speeds go up and improvement in his line, length
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Exactly. He needs a few games. He should go back home and play in his back yard. Once he hits 1 stump consistently he should go to play with his local village team. When he can run through the opposition village team he should retire to tell his children what a great bowler he once was. He could even carry a clipping of his local village gazette with him to show everybody.

What he shouldn’t do is treat the Green cap as a joke handed out because the speed gun says. His speed, his height his strength, his potential and his learning is of no consequence if he can’t maintain a line and length. He doesn’t need to be Asif or McGrath just make the ball go where he wants. He has no future in any National set up. Zimbabwe wouldn’t take him.

Pat Cummins, Ishant sharma, Mohammed Abbas three very different kinds of bowlers all highlight one key aspect of bowling. You have to keep on pushing, fighting injuries, loss of form, innovations in batting, changes in coaching to just keep performing. Only the very best deserve the National cap. Wasim just can’t land the ball. He’s awful.
 
Absolutely garbage bowler one of the worst I've seen in 35 years of watching cricket. The only 2 Pakistan bowlers who I've seen bowl as many boundary or smack Me balls as this guy were Muhammed sami and rana naved. At least with those 2 they had a period of taking wickets at decent rate in ODIs.

Just because the guy can bowl a yorker, people getting gassed up. This guy releases pressure like a broken tap.

Pakistan are scrapping the barrel picking such mediocre bowler.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Absolutely garbage bowler one of the worst I've seen in 35 years of watching cricket. The only 2 Pakistan bowlers who I've seen bowl as many boundary or smack Me balls as this guy were Muhammed sami and rana naved. At least with those 2 they had a period of taking wickets at decent rate in ODIs.

Just because the guy can bowl a yorker, people getting gassed up. This guy releases pressure like a broken tap.

Pakistan are scrapping the barrel picking such mediocre bowler.
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Slingy actions bring inconsistent lines and lengths.
 
Really terrible bowler. Behind the slightly less bad Zaman.

How is Dahani not in the reckoning?
 
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Bewal Express said:
Slingy actions bring inconsistent lines and lengths.
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Slingy actions or not a bowler at this level should be able to bowl at least 2 or 3 balls in a row in same area, or bowl with intelligence. Running up and letting ball go and hoping for best is amateurish to say least.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Slingy actions or not a bowler at this level should be able to bowl at least 2 or 3 balls in a row in same area, or bowl with intelligence. Running up and letting ball go and hoping for best is amateurish to say least.
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Absolutely. The other thing as saj has mentioned he has only played 9 first class games. He has an average of around 25 which looks respectable but if you take away cheap lower order wickets against Netherlands and West Indies that average would shoot up. In other words there is no credible reason for him to be in this odi team. It’s not a finishing ground. Pakistan management really made a mistake not working on the reserves to have back up for injuries so now the likes of Wasim are being thrown in at the deep end when they have absolutely no experience or talent.
 
Abid Z said:
Absolutely. The other thing as saj has mentioned he has only played 9 first class games. He has an average of around 25 which looks respectable but if you take away cheap lower order wickets against Netherlands and West Indies that average would shoot up. In other words there is no credible reason for him to be in this odi team. It’s not a finishing ground. Pakistan management really made a mistake not working on the reserves to have back up for injuries so now the likes of Wasim are being thrown in at the deep end when they have absolutely no experience or talent.
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Seems Pakistan still thinks its the 1980s and 90s and you cab throw a player into international cricket with no 1st class experience and they will do well.

Look at how long it's take naseem Shah to develop and the age he started internationally.

Wasim jnr looks like a glorified tape ball bowler. He needs to go back to domestic cricket or even county cricket etc.. and actually learn to bowl properly.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Seems Pakistan still thinks its the 1980s and 90s and you cab throw a player into international cricket with no 1st class experience and they will do well.

Look at how long it's take naseem Shah to develop and the age he started internationally.

Wasim jnr looks like a glorified tape ball bowler. He needs to go back to domestic cricket or even county cricket etc.. and actually learn to bowl properly.
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He has played 9 FC matches and 2 Tests. How much of an FC matches experience should be pre requisite before selecting a pacer in the One Day Format?
 
RidiculousMan said:
He has played 9 FC matches and 2 Tests. How much of an FC matches experience should be pre requisite before selecting a pacer in the One Day Format?
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A hell of a lot more the 9 FC games, the fact he played 2 tests as well was an utter shambles as well. He should be playing a 2 or 3 seasons of domestic cricket at least before being looked at again
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
All 3 shouldn't even play domestic cricket. Wasim and Dhani are illiterate aswell from what I've been told.
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I feel like education is so key for a sportsman.


The US is by far the best sports playing nation in the world and I feel a major factor in that is that all their domestic tournaments recruit from varsity teams. You have to be a once in a generation talent to skip the varsity route.
 
Syed1 said:
I feel like education is so key for a sportsman.


The US is by far the best sports playing nation in the world and I feel a major factor in that is that all their domestic tournaments recruit from varsity teams. You have to be a once in a generation talent to skip the varsity route.
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Yep you cannot analyse or improve unless you have some basic education at the minimum.
 
On graveyard pitches of India bowlers like Wasim will barely make a dent. You need to have good pace, sharp cutters and yorkers in your arsenal to tackle dead pitches and looking at Wasim I don't get the feeling he has any of the three as a go to delivery
 
Amjid Javed said:
A hell of a lot more the 9 FC games, the fact he played 2 tests as well was an utter shambles as well. He should be playing a 2 or 3 seasons of domestic cricket at least before being looked at again
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That should be implemented as a policy in the selection criteria for all pacers then no? Otherwise we would be seeing players playing for Pakistan with less then 2-3 seasons of FC experience (Which itself needs to be more specified in terms of number of games).
 
RidiculousMan said:
That should be implemented as a policy in the selection criteria for all pacers then no? Otherwise we would be seeing players playing for Pakistan with less then 2-3 seasons of FC experience (Which itself needs to be more specified in terms of number of games).
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It's not about a specific number of games, it's about developing as a bowler domestically or in another league 1st. Different players take different times to develop. International cricket is not a finishing school for players, nor is it where you throw in players who are novices.

A player could play 20 domestic game and say for example 80% of those against weak teams and a bowler takes cheap wickets and don't develop.

The clueless selector at the time who 1st picked wasim jnr based on spreadsheet stats rather then actually going to watch him play is to blame here. Pakistan need to cut out the nonsense with such selections.

I gave the example as well of naseem Shah and how long it's taken him to develop. Wasim jnr as I mentioned before is a tape ball gulley bowler
 
Amjid Javed said:
It's not about a specific number of games, it's about developing as a bowler domestically or in another league 1st. Different players take different times to develop. International cricket is not a finishing school for players, nor is it where you throw in players who are novices.

A player could play 20 domestic game and say for example 80% of those against weak teams and a bowler takes cheap wickets and don't develop.

The clueless selector at the time who 1st picked wasim jnr based on spreadsheet stats rather then actually going to watch him play is to blame here. Pakistan need to cut out the nonsense with such selections.

I gave the example as well of naseem Shah and how long it's taken him to develop. Wasim jnr as I mentioned before is a tape ball gulley bowler
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Utter garbage of a bowler. Why and how did he got into Pak team, defies believe
 
Amjid Javed said:
It's not about a specific number of games, it's about developing as a bowler domestically or in another league 1st. Different players take different times to develop. International cricket is not a finishing school for players, nor is it where you throw in players who are novices.

A player could play 20 domestic game and say for example 80% of those against weak teams and a bowler takes cheap wickets and don't develop.

The clueless selector at the time who 1st picked wasim jnr based on spreadsheet stats rather then actually going to watch him play is to blame here. Pakistan need to cut out the nonsense with such selections.

I gave the example as well of naseem Shah and how long it's taken him to develop. Wasim jnr as I mentioned before is a tape ball gulley bowler
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It seems to me that fans aren't even sure that a player must need to follow a process regardless of their talent. So as long as player performs good in international cricket. He's great and selectors did wonderful. But then a slip in a game or two and all of a sudden that player is bad, the selectors were wrong.

This same Wasim Jr was being praised to skys during WT20 2022 and many were in awe of his reverse swinging yorkers, advocating for him fo be inducted in the Test side as well as one to look out for.
 
RidiculousMan said:
It seems to me that fans aren't even sure that a player must need to follow a process regardless of their talent. So as long as player performs good in international cricket. He's great and selectors did wonderful. But then a slip in a game or two and all of a sudden that player is bad, the selectors were wrong.

This same Wasim Jr was being praised to skys during WT20 2022 and many were in awe of his reverse swinging yorkers, advocating for him fo be inducted in the Test side as well as one to look out for.
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It's clearly obvious you can't read, when I said a bowler needs to show signs of development and intelligence as a bowler, and different bowlers take different amounts of time to do so. Playing a handful of domestic games ain't a gage of quality.

Which cheerleaders were over hyping wasim in T20 world cup? He was garbage and in the final released all the pressure with his buffet bowling.


Those so called experts advocate for a T20 bowler to play tests based on bowling yorkers, are clueless as they come 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

One to look out for 🤣🤣🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 
I don’t know about fans but I would say selection criteria ought to be transparent and consistent. There are certain instances where once in a generation bowler comes along and is fast tracked straight into the team with very little first class experience. Shoaib Akthar, MOHD Sami and M. Amir are prime example because of their prodigious talent. But still in all these cases history shows that these players underachieved given their immense talent but you could understand why they were selected.

Naseem shah is another but now on the other end of the scale where they are giving him brief introductions and long breaks. Husnain too and Rauf. I think selection there is just right. A little bit of intro to international cricket then time to retrain and back again. Sometimes this retraining takes place abroad but each time there is a definite improvement.

Wasim on the other hand has never been touted as a talent by anybody with a serious eye. Deluded fans are everywhere and we have more than our fair share. A few performances in Mickey Mouse cricket doesn’t a star make. In T20 bad balls can get you wickets but in odi or test there is no hiding place. He averaged 115 in the 2 tests hardly praiseworthy. But your eyes tell you he has nothing to offer. He could spend years in domestic or even in shield cricket but he just is nowhere near ready for even domestic cricket. Those fans you speak of are simply young kids who know nothing about the toil and trauma of the grind of learning in domestic cricket. It’s a necessary step which he just go through.
 
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