[VIDEOS] Muslim, Hindu Sports Stars

[Tubs]

As many have said, since Islam is a proselytising religion, there are Muslims from all around the globe, many in more affluent nations, so they have a better chance of pursuing a career in sports. Cultural issues are a reason too, as many Indians (like other South Asians) value education over sports. A better comparison would probably be India and Pakistan, which would likely show similar findings (maybe India does marginally better because of a higher proportion of middle class, but it's not by much).

It's quite arbitrary to compare Muslim sports stars against anything (same with Christian and other religious sports stars) as it's a mutable characteristic. There are also many athletes who identify as Muslim, but others wouldn't consider Muslim, so it's a strange one.

I think the comparison between Christian and Muslim sports stars will be equally as silly and arbitrary, because then most of the Mexican/Puerto Rican/South American and a large proportion of European sporting stars will identify as such. And with both Muslims and Christians, many will call themselves as such even though they don't really follow the religion themselves, which will skew the numbers unnecessarily. All in all, I think it's a silly comparison to make.

 

[KingKhanWC]

At the highest level of sport, mental strength, lifestyle makes the difference.

Religion is part of this.

Being Muslims has helped many great sportsmen, inc Ali, Khabib etc. Hopefully Hindus will also find this help of they ever produce world stars in other sports apart from cricket.

 

[Tubs]

At the highest level of sport, mental strength, lifestyle makes the difference.

Religion is part of this.

Being Muslims has helped many great sportsmen, inc Ali, Khabib etc. Hopefully Hindus will also find this help of they ever produce world stars in other sports apart from cricket.

Not really. You'd have to test for this. You'd have to compare the performance of non-practicing Christians/Muslims/etc vs their practicing counterparts. There's also varying levels to that, there are many people who are simply culturally religious. Then you'd need to compare it to people with no religion et all. Then, perhaps, you could test it against people who are dedicated to non-religious philosophies. A bogus statement, really, it's just a way for you to show your distain for Hindus, which is your prerogative of course.

 

[Bigboii]

The New York Jets are set to appoint San Francisco 49ers' defensive coordinator Robert Saleh as head coach, a move which would make him the first Muslim to take charge of an NFL team

Born in Dearborn, MI
Aka Baghdad of America

 

[srh]

I did not know Kyrie Irving has become muslim

Just find out about it. Amazing. May he find peace in Islam. Ameen.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Just find out about it. Amazing. May he find peace in Islam. Ameen.

MsA one of the most skilful layers but beset with injury

 

[Asim_khan]

Marat Safin/Arazi/El Ayanoui >>>>> Paes/Bupathi

 

[NishanKonar]

This thread is so stupid - comparing Muslims of African / Russian / Arab origin with Hindus ( mostly desis )

Also not sure how much religion plays a part here I mean Muhammad Ali became Olympic champion & heavyweight champion when he was Cassius Clay. Mike Tyson was still Christian in 80s when he was at his fearsome best & became Muslim in prison . Zidane was non practicing Muslim but won 2 Balon Dors - which non of the devout muslims like Salah & Mesut Ozil ever did ! Probably bcoz religion had nothing to dow with it

Now Tom Brady worships Ganesh & says it brings him good luck but to own him as Hindu will be silly & desperate ! He is American & Caucasian & got best training in USA - which is why he became the best in the world. Spirituality & worshipping Ganesh is a small part of it

Now desis of all hues ( Ind / Pak / Ban ) are generally poor in sport - irrespective of religion. If anything Indians are the best of the lot - will probably win 10-12 medals at upcoming Tokyo Olympics , which is quite impressive although far behind where we should be

Its all about investing i proper structure that led to success at Olympic sports. India is actually doing a great deal in that regards - although we have still a long way to go before we challenge the likes of USA & China

Role models do matter but honestly Pakistan wont produce champion boxers like Amir Khan without proper domestic set up. Its nothing to do with role models of ur religion. . Better role modle will be Pakistani icon !

 

[srh]

This thread is so stupid - comparing Muslims of African / Russian / Arab origin with Hindus ( mostly desis )

Also not sure how much religion plays a part here I mean Muhammad Ali became Olympic champion & heavyweight champion when he was Cassius Clay. Mike Tyson was still Christian in 80s when he was at his fearsome best & became Muslim in prison . Zidane was non practicing Muslim but won 2 Balon Dors - which non of the devout muslims like Salah & Mesut Ozil ever did ! Probably bcoz religion had nothing to dow with it

Now Tom Brady worships Ganesh & says it brings him good luck but to own him as Hindu will be silly & desperate ! He is American & Caucasian & got best training in USA - which is why he became the best in the world. Spirituality & worshipping Ganesh is a small part of it

Now desis of all hues ( Ind / Pak / Ban ) are generally poor in sport - irrespective of religion. If anything Indians are the best of the lot - will probably win 10-12 medals at upcoming Tokyo Olympics , which is quite impressive although far behind where we should be

Its all about investing i proper structure that led to success at Olympic sports. India is actually doing a great deal in that regards - although we have still a long way to go before we challenge the likes of USA & China

Role models do matter but honestly Pakistan wont produce champion boxers like Amir Khan without proper domestic set up. Its nothing to do with role models of ur religion. . Better role modle will be Pakistani icon !

India is doing extremely poor at Olympics (easily the worst ever) if you look at their population. India should be getting 2nd most or 3rd most medals in Olympics based on their population.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Role models do matter but honestly Pakistan wont produce champion boxers like Amir Khan without proper domestic set up. Its nothing to do with role models of ur religion. . Better role modle will be Pakistani icon !

This is true, Pakistan needs to invest in sports to have success, however the country really does not have any money for sports right now.

Also a Pakistani role model would be ideal, but since we dont really have any great Pakistani athletes, the next best thing is to look at other Muslims as role models. Dont see anything wrong with that.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Just find out about it. Amazing. May he find peace in Islam. Ameen.

Stunned by this news. I have to root for Brooklyn now.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Also a Pakistani role model would be ideal, but since we dont really have any great Pakistani athletes, the next best thing is to look at other Muslims as role models. Dont see anything wrong with that.

That's a nice perspective and all but reality is, most Pakistanis are influenced by their own culture, so for Pakistanis and the diaspora, that lies in the Desi culture, whether it be music, sport or anything else.

It ultimately has to be relatable. A man from a Pakistan is unlikely to ever emulate Marat Safin but will look towards India as the players will look familiar

 

[Giannis]

NBA star Kyrie Irving converts to Islam; observes Ramadan

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"I am taking part in Ramadan with a lot of my brothers and sisters, my Muslim brothers and sisters."<br><br>Kyrie Irving says he’s been fasting during the holy month of Ramadan.<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/SNYNets?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SNYNets</a>) <a href="https://t.co/aecOg9U5tx">pic.twitter.com/aecOg9U5tx</a></p>— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1385952486243160065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[NishanKonar]

India is doing extremely poor at Olympics (easily the worst ever) if you look at their population. India should be getting 2nd most or 3rd most medals in Olympics based on their population.

That's true but India far better than its neighbors who even struggle to qualify for Olympics - after eating so much beef ( Just Kidding ) Basically India is Andho main Kaana Raja

But on a serious note - there are signs of improvement. One of the few things Modi did right is this Khelo India initiative which is unearthing some top talents for future Olympics. At the upcoming Tokyo Olympics India ight end up getting double digit medals for the first time ever. Even more impressively , plans are all ready under way to groom youngsters for 2024 Paris Olympics to ensure a bigger success

Anyways my point is its all about system , not religion / race / culture. India has realized it a tad too late

 

[street cricketer]

A weird comparison. Islam is a global religion, Hinduism is not where probably 80-90% of followers are concentrated in one country.

Besides, the notion that the religion you follow will make you a superior athlete is probably not the brightest argument in the 21st century. It might have been laughed at even during the 18th century when race theories were the fad.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

That's a nice perspective and all but reality is, most Pakistanis are influenced by their own culture, so for Pakistanis and the diaspora, that lies in the Desi culture, whether it be music, sport or anything else.

It ultimately has to be relatable. A man from a Pakistan is unlikely to ever emulate Marat Safin but will look towards India as the players will look familiar

Completely disagree about sport, especially an individual sport.

If Muslim Marat Safin played against a non Muslim Indian, 95% of the Pakistani Muslims would support Safin.

And forget Indians. Imagine in UFC, Khabib fighting against a non Muslim, I think Khabib would be supported by 99% of Pakistani Muslims.

In a individual sport the only Pakistanis who would support the non Muslim are the extremely liberal types, as even the majority of liberals would root for the Muslim athlete.

 

[Bigboii]

Completely disagree about sport, especially an individual sport.

If Muslim Marat Safin played against a non Muslim Indian, 95% of the Pakistani Muslims would support Safin.

And forget Indians. Imagine in UFC, Khabib fighting against a non Muslim, I think Khabib would be supported by 99% of Pakistani Muslims.

In a individual sport the only Pakistanis who would support the non Muslim are the extremely liberal types, as even the majority of liberals would root for the Muslim athlete.

+1
Khabib vs some random data Singh

Who are we supporting just think about it to get your answer people

 

[KingKhanWC]

A weird comparison. Islam is a global religion, Hinduism is not where probably 80-90% of followers are concentrated in one country.

Besides, the notion that the religion you follow will make you a superior athlete is probably not the brightest argument in the 21st century. It might have been laughed at even during the 18th century when race theories were the fad.

We know this but people can still convert.

The greatest Muslim athlete is a convert and just happens to be the GOAT in all sport.

Nice to see Kyrie Irving becoming a Muslim. There has been a few basketball players over recent years.

Faith may not make you the greatest but its an advantage in terms of the lifestyle you live, pure focus and away from things which ruin your mind and body, such as intoxicants.

 

[Giannis]

That's a nice perspective and all but reality is, most Pakistanis are influenced by their own culture, so for Pakistanis and the diaspora, that lies in the Desi culture, whether it be music, sport or anything else.

It ultimately has to be relatable. A man from a Pakistan is unlikely to ever emulate Marat Safin but will look towards India as the players will look familiar

Maybe in music and arts but Idk about you but in sports we only look to our favorite athletes growing up - for me Steph Curry is more of an role model when it comes to basketball than the Indian Preet Singh Bhamara, your inspirations when it comes to sports or any profession doesn't have to come from the same race/region. More Pakistani boxers are inspired from Muhammad Ali and Amir Khan than Vijender Singh, I'll look up to any athlete as long as they're successful and their style is something I'd want to emulate.

 

[PakLFC]

No one is stopping the Hindu's from proselytizing that they do in India with the "ghar wapsi" type of nonsense. Muslim's have sports stars in most sports like Cricket, Football, Olympics, Tennis, Boxers and Basketball. Hindu's and even Sikh's are mostly Cricketers, Hockey players or Kabbadi players)) The thread is Hindu and Muslim not Pakistani and Indian sports stars.

Years back at college our Muslim team took on a Sikh and Hindu combined side. We absolutely hammered them like their grandpa!

 

[street cricketer]

Faith may not make you the greatest but its an advantage in terms of the lifestyle you live, pure focus and away from things which ruin your mind and body, such as intoxicants.

This I agree with. Even though I don't believe in organised religion, I can definitely see why a lot of prison inmates choose Islam as a way to reform because it provides a disciplined lifestyle that keeps them away from the vices of life which can only be good.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Maybe in music and arts but Idk about you but in sports we only look to our favorite athletes growing up - for me Steph Curry is more of an role model when it comes to basketball than the Indian Preet Singh Bhamara, your inspirations when it comes to sports or any profession doesn't have to come from the same race/region. More Pakistani boxers are inspired from Muhammad Ali and Amir Khan than Vijender Singh, I'll look up to any athlete as long as they're successful and their style is something I'd want to emulate.

Well we're seeing how Indians braking in to professional football so they are naturally going to be the people to emulate for others of South Asian heritage. There are thousands of Muslim footballers ranging from Bosnia to Zambia but very few Asians.

 

[PakLFC]

Well we're seeing how Indians braking in to professional football so they are naturally going to be the people to emulate for others of South Asian heritage. There are thousands of Muslim footballers ranging from Bosnia to Zambia but very few Asians.

What Indian Footballers are known across the globe?

 

[Giannis]

Well we're seeing how Indians braking in to professional football so they are naturally going to be the people to emulate for others of South Asian heritage. There are thousands of Muslim footballers ranging from Bosnia to Zambia but very few Asians.

Lol I can't think of any indian footballer that broke into top flight football and most Pakistanis or at leas Pakistani-Americans could care less about the heritage of some footballer, just cause an indian breaks into soccer doesn't we would want to emulate him, I don't know what you mean by Asians - there are quite a few korean and japanese footballers but I don't know what that has to do with Pakistanis, most Pakistanis idolize Zidane, Pogba, Salah, because they share a common faith they could care less if some guy from south india or sri lanka becomes the next big star.

 

[Giannis]

What Indian Footballers are known across the globe?

lol yeah his comment makes no sense, he thinks the lack of British Pakistani footballers is cause they don't watch football cause there are no desi stars when in reality it's the most popular sport among British Pakistanis and I'm sure most of them have no issues wanting to emulate Salah or any world class footballer

 

[PakLFC]

lol yeah his comment makes no sense, he thinks the lack of British Pakistani footballers is cause they don't watch football cause there are no desi stars when in reality it's the most popular sport among British Pakistanis and I'm sure most of them have no issues wanting to emulate Salah or any world class footballer

Yes Indian thinks there nobody Footballers playing in Goa are world icons! This must be why India has not even once been close to qualifying for the Football world cup because of their great stars. Just shows how mislead they are. I don't even want to start the list off Muslim Footballers playing in top European Leagues. This will burn non Muslim's even more.

 

[cricket4all]

The thread maybe a bit misunderstood. I think if a player has a name associated to a religion (i.e a muslim or hindu name) doesn't mean they are religous? It should be about players who have turned to their religion / beliefs to help them achieve greatness / stardom. Otherwise what has religion got to do with greatness if you haven't used it to inspire, turn to etc?

So only sports person I can think of is Mohammad Ali who was the greatest and Islam helped him in his career. Can't think of many others who are practicing?

Mohammad Yousuf, Moin Ali, Inzamam, Hashim Amla, Saeed Anwar, Saqlain Mushtaq,Mushtaq Ahmed are some cricketers that are religious and stars but not all were through out their careers.

I don't know about practicing Hindu, Sikh stars (who turned to faith during their sports careers) but I am sure there will be.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Didn't say they don't watch?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...d-EFL-last-season-That-must-change&highlight=

 

[FearlessRoar]

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