[VIDEOS] Naseem Shah - A failed experiment?

[Mamoon]

You can criticise the player all you want but at the end of the day, the blame goes to the selector for picking a bowler based on hype and not domestic performances.

If Naseem Shah was English, he’d be playing 5-6 years in county cricket before his name would ever be considered for the national team.

In Pakistan it’s completely different, we pick players for the national team when they’re still learning the basics.

Blame goes to PCB for faking his age and fast-tracking him when he wasn’t good enough, but blame goes to Naseem for buying into his own hype.

Statements like “I like to see fear in batsmen’s eyes” and “English batsmen don’t know me but they will after the series” look beyond embarrassing when you don’t have the talent and the skill to back them up, and he clearly didn’t.

So I am enjoying his demise because he deserves to be brought back to earth. It is up to him now to put in the hard yards in FC.

Personally I don’t see him making it because I think he is just not good enough.

 

[NauV]

Blame goes to PCB for faking his age and fast-tracking him when he wasn’t good enough, but blame goes to Naseem for buying into his own hype.

Statements like “I like to see fear in batsmen’s eyes” and “English batsmen don’t know me but they will after the series” look beyond embarrassing when you don’t have the talent and the skill to back them up, and he clearly didn’t.

So I am enjoying his demise because he deserves to be brought back to earth. It is up to him now to put in the hard yards in FC.

Personally I don’t see him making it because I think he is just not good enough.

Just want to understand why you think he is "not good enough" . . btw, I don't think he has done enough to be any where near the team . . he needs to play a lot of domestic cricket and do well before he should be considered . .

I have the same opinion you have regarding Naseem of Musa and Haris to name a couple . . I am sure I can think of more . .
Musa doesn't have height going for him . . his action doesn't add swing bowling . . his release is all over the place . . he has no skills with the ball . . and he isn't bowling at 150 kph either . . not much to work with unfortunately
Haris well . . . he's just a tape ball bowler with a weird run up and action . . little control over his bowling . . he has been tonked lately and I don't see that changing . . plus very difficult to judge a bowler through T20s . .

Naseem though I think has some ingredients going for him. . his action is side on . . his run up is decent . . he has gone decent pace . . his release isn't great neither is his hip rotation which is why he isn't able to move the ball as he would like currently (I believe Ian Pont pointed out some technical flaws as well) . . he doesn't have control currently either but he can develop that by putting it in effort in domestic cricket . . so I see the potential in him even though he isn't ready for international cricket yet . . so genuinely curious why you've maintained Naseem is trash

 

[Titan24]

Few decent slow balls/change ups on display in todays match of CPL and took wicket of Simmons by deceiving him with one inside power play. Having captain in Dwayne Bravo who himself is pretty good with change ups helping Naseem’s white-ball game a bit.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Few decent slow balls/change ups on display in todays match of CPL and took wicket of Simmons by deceiving him with one inside power play. Having captain in Dwayne Bravo who himself is pretty good with change ups helping Naseem’s white-ball game a bit.

Is his pace back up to what it used to be?

 

[b.lesner]

1/18 in 3 overs Against Trinbago Knight Riders.

Before injury he used to be complete different bowler with pace and those outswingers he used to bowl.

 

[Kroll]

1/18 in 3 overs Against Trinbago Knight Riders.

Before injury he used to be complete different bowler with pace and those outswingers he used to bowl.

The wickets column still roughly the same though.

 

[zarak]

Blame goes to PCB for faking his age and fast-tracking him when he wasn’t good enough, but blame goes to Naseem for buying into his own hype.

Statements like “I like to see fear in batsmen’s eyes” and “English batsmen don’t know me but they will after the series” look beyond embarrassing when you don’t have the talent and the skill to back them up, and he clearly didn’t.

So I am enjoying his demise because he deserves to be brought back to earth. It is up to him now to put in the hard yards in FC.

Personally I don’t see him making it because I think he is just not good enough.

who hasn't said stupid stuff when they were 16 or 18 or 20 whatever he is. You are a grown man going after a kid for having an eager and zealous attitude. Arrogance and belief is part of being a sportsman. Putting in the hard yards is what counts.

 

[Forum363]

who hasn't said stupid stuff when they were 16 or 18 or 20 whatever he is. You are a grown man going after a kid for having an eager and zealous attitude. Arrogance and belief is part of being a sportsman. Putting in the hard yards is what counts.

Don't bother explaining this to him. He just hates Naseem. Compare this to Jofra Archer who has an awful attitude, is always making moody statements and being touchy on social media but Mamoon repeatedly claims he is the best bowler In the world...with an effortless action... Ironic.

I don't know what is wrong with a teenage fast bowler bowling 145 to say he wants to see fear in the batsman's eyes. Regardless of how it turned out.

 

[Pakhs]

Don't bother explaining this to him. He just hates Naseem. Compare this to Jofra Archer who has an awful attitude, is always making moody statements and being touchy on social media but Mamoon repeatedly claims he is the best bowler In the world...with an effortless action... Ironic.

I don't know what is wrong with a teenage fast bowler bowling 145 to say he wants to see fear in the batsman's eyes. Regardless of how it turned out.

Dont compare him to Archer tough who is a WC winner and already proved himself atleast in LOIs against the best.

 

[Forum363]

Dont compare him to Archer tough who is a WC winner and already proved himself atleast in LOIs against the best.

Hassan Ali is a champions trophy winner and proved himself against the best for a longer period of time. But he was still criticised heavily for his statements - just because he’s Pakistani. Naseem is newer and far less successful but he has a target on his back for that reason too.

Archer won a World Cup by being in a great team, and since then was basically rubbish for 2 years before getting injured. He doesn’t have the right to moodily respond back to journalists etc as a player starting his career.

 

[Titan24]

Is his pace back up to what it used to be?

Yes was fastest on show yesterday (3-4 of the top 5 were bowled by him). Bowled some quick rising deliveries, CPL’s speedometer is off from the very start of the tournament so I dont think that can be relied upon however his run up and rhythm looked much better than it looked in NZ. I think Naseem and Oshane Thomos alongside Odean Smith have possibly been fastest of the tournament.

 

[Pakhs]

Hassan Ali is a champions trophy winner and proved himself against the best for a longer period of time. But he was still criticised heavily for his statements - just because he’s Pakistani. Naseem is newer and far less successful but he has a target on his back for that reason too.

Archer won a World Cup by being in a great team, and since then was basically rubbish for 2 years before getting injured. He doesn’t have the right to moodily respond back to journalists etc as a player starting his career.

Archer bowled the super over. CT is not same as CW. Hasan Ali is currently being hailed as among Pakistan best. Not sure what your point is?

 

[Saj]

Definitely a lot better in the last few games.

His confidence has been badly damaged for one reason or another. He needs to regain his confidence and I am sure we will see him improve when that happens.

A few catches dropped off his bowling in the CPL also by all accounts.

 

[Forum363]

Archer bowled the super over. CT is not same as CW. Hasan Ali is currently being hailed as among Pakistan best. Not sure what your point is?

And he failed to defend double digit runs against an out of form guptil and neesham. He was lucky with the boundary count rule otherwise he would be the villain.

Hassan Ali has performed really well and he’s still only just being called Pakistan’s best (which is a low bar as only Shaheen is world class). The point is that he was slated for his words. As was Naseem. And I made the comparison with Archer who is fine to make ridiculous statements and be unprofessional. Why the double standards.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Thread is about Naseem Shah, take the Archer discussion elsewhere please.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Naseem Shah has all the basics to develop into a top bowler. If he works hard with the right training, he is here to stay and serve well for Pakistan cricket and domestic leagues.

 

[Junaids]

His confidence has been badly damaged for one reason or another. .

If you want to ruin a young outswing bowler, send him to Waqar Younis.

Waqar was always a horrible choice of bowling coach for Naseem Shah. He bowled inswing, and late in his career like Imran he developed a leg-cutter to conceal his lack of an away-swinger.

Let's be clear about what Pakistan actually has on its hands with Naseem:

1. He is not "18 years 6 months old", he is clearly around 21.
2. He is capable of obtaining late outswing due to his side-on action.
3. He is capable of sustaining speeds of around 140-145K, with the odd effort ball around 149K. That makes him faster than any other Pakistani red ball bowler.
4. He is not "5 foot 11" tall. He is around 5'9 tall.

So what does this mean?

He is capable of being a very high quality right-arm fast outswing bowler. But he is always going to have a markedly worse economy rate than Shaheen Shah Afridi, because of that lack of height.

If he is properly managed, he should play 80 Tests and take 300 wickets but at an average of around 29.

In contrast, Shaheen Shah Afridi has less skill and less pace, but the extra 9 inches of height ensure that he will play 100 Tests and take 400 wickets at around an average of 24.

The two should be perfect foils for one another.

Really, in SENA I see a Pakistan attack of:

Bowling with the wind
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Naseem Shah

Bowling into the wind
Faheem Ashraf
Hasan Ali
Shadab Khan

It's a good attack. Pakistan really just needs to get Naseem a proper coach.

 

[Titan24]

Completely deceived another batsman with his newly developed/polished slower ball. Takes Brendon King in the semi final in his very first over.

 

[Titan24]

Now a brilliant yorker in the CPL semi to uproot the middle stump of Bramble.

Have to give credit to Bravo as well the way he has guided Naseem in CPL.

 

[Saj]

Much much better today.

Well done young man, some impressive deliveries.

 

[Bewal Express]

As I said last week this tournament would have done him a lot of good

 

[MenInG]

Much much better today.

Well done young man, some impressive deliveries.

2/34 from 4 overs in Guyana Amazon Warriors vs St Kitts and Nevis Patriots, 2nd Semi final (2nd vs 3rd)

 

[MenInG]

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Interesting celebration!

 

[gazza619]

I would be more excited if he takes a 4 wicket haul in a 3 day game against an International or a quality A side.

Anybody can bowl the odd yorker in these Mickey Mouse leagues.

 

[shaz619]

I would be more excited if he takes a 4 wicket haul in a 3 day game against an International or a quality A side.

Anybody can bowl the odd yorker in these Mickey Mouse leagues.

It’s a positive to see him do well after a long period even in these leagues, but I don’t know if he has the proper guidance given that these fellows seem to think they are invincible’s when that blue moon comes out and let it all get to their head

 

[MenInG]

Playing in the Saint Lucia Kings vs St Kitts and Nevis Patriots - final of the CPL at the moment - 2 overs for 7 runs.

 

[Titan24]

Uproots middle stump of in form Roston Chase in CPL 2021 final.

 

[Rana]

Good performances. Looks like he will be retained for next year now

 

[Saj]

Very good figures for Naseem Shah in the Caribbean Premier League Final - 4 overs, 1 maiden, 2 wickets for 26 runs, including 16 dot balls.

 

[sabre1486]

very good spell today in a relatively big game....took on the responsibility to bowl the big overs. he has lost some weight and he looks fitter. needs to get more bowling in. He will be back soon - although our fav PP naysayer will tell you he is a 'rock thrower' who is not 'good enough'.

 

[TeymurBlake]

He's having a good end to the tournament.

 

[Savak]

Exposure to Bravo has helped his Limited overs bowling. I saw plenty of variations, slower ball yorkers and slower bouncers from him.

Waqar the joker should be kept away from the PCB and any coaching role going forward

 

[Titan24]

4 overs including a maiden with 26/2 is really good stuff especially considering its the final of the CPL 2021.

Not to forget that he is not usually considered much for white ball cricket in this phase of his career but and by the end of this CPL we have seen some really good slower balls as well as yorkers. Bravo has been a good mentor from him in the tournament as mentioned previously.

 

[MenInG]

4 overs including a maiden with 26/2 is really good stuff especially considering its the final of the CPL 2021.

Not to forget that he is not usually considered much for white ball cricket in this phase of his career but and by the end of this CPL we have seen some really good slower balls as well as yorkers. Bravo has been a good mentor from him in the tournament as mentioned previously.

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Very charged up.

 

[speed_thrills]

Desis giving stare to Caribbean look really funny. Total mismatch of physical attributes.

Even worse here because Naseem is just a kid as of now.

 

[Rana]

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Very charged up.

I have fear in my eyes seeing this

 

[Rana]

Looking trim

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

Archer learned his craft playing in T20 leagues. Even Bumrah became a world class bowler in all formats by playing LOIs and IPL. When was the last time Bumrah played in Ranji? FC is overrated because you are playing against some very average teams when international stars are away

 

[Forum363]

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Very charged up.

Good aggression from Naseem. I hope his late form in this format isn’t at the cost of his white ball bowling skills.

None the less, he should be kept an eye on for the World Cup. We need a third fast bowler to partner Shaheen and Hassan.

Hasnain/ Dahani / Naseem need to fight it out.

Rauf is too inconsistent.

 

[shah_1]

Archer learned his craft playing in T20 leagues. Even Bumrah became a world class bowler in all formats by playing LOIs and IPL. When was the last time Bumrah played in Ranji? FC is overrated because you are playing against some very average teams when international stars are away

T20 cricket is a lot more difficult than we think. There is no recovery period, players have to be very precise and handle pressure in fast moving game.

 

[Forum363]

Archer learned his craft playing in T20 leagues. Even Bumrah became a world class bowler in all formats by playing LOIs and IPL. When was the last time Bumrah played in Ranji? FC is overrated because you are playing against some very average teams when international stars are away

Archer performed in one test match and then was rubbish.

Bumrah played for years and then played international cricket to develop into the bowler he is today. You can’t use that as an argument to chose T20 leagues over FC.

Your argument is valid for someone like Shaheen but not Naseem.

Look at the likes of Abbas and Hassan Ali who used first class cricket to hone their skills. For a young bowler like Naseem he needs to bowl long and multiple spells in match scenarios to get the game awareness and skills for long format cricket.

He seems to be learning slower balls and variations which are great for T20 cricket but useless in red ball.

He needs to play this whole upcoming FC season.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

T20 cricket is a lot more difficult than we think. There is no recovery period, players have to be very precise and handle pressure in fast moving game.

Ridiculous statement. Bowling 4 overs a day is nothing vs bowling 20 overs on the 5th day of test match when the result is on the line.
Test match you need the art of setup.
Different art and more difficult to master.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

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Interesting celebration!

The fear is real. Hopefully the same celebration when he bowls out people in international arena.

 

[Saj]

The kid needed some positivity in his career and this should give him some much needed confidence.

Bowled intelligently at the CPL and showed he isn't a one-trick pony.

 

[Snowflake]

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Interesting celebration!

Nice to see him express himself. Would be better if he could be authentic though - no need to copy other players' celebrations

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

The kid needed some positivity in his career and this should give him some much needed confidence.

Bowled intelligently at the CPL and showed he isn't a one-trick pony.

Impossible to see him not having a bright future if he manages to keep the injuries in-check.

Pakistani fans have unrealistically high expectations from players. He's an 18 year old who was one of the front-line seamers in the team on his debut...in a country where even some of the greatest fast-bowlers to ever play for Pakistan have been put to the sword...against a batting line-up that eats touring fast-bowlers up for lunch on those wickets. Its hard for me to me to imagine a more difficult debut for him. And yet he still managed to not let that debut define him and showed on a number of occassions that he had something...that grow into something even more substantial one day.

Pakistani fans (and media) need to temper their expectations instead of expecting unrealistic things from young guys like Naseem. And putting needless pressure on them. When really, they are at the first stage of their development as international-level cricketers.

 

[Rana]

Nice to see him express himself. Would be better if he could be authentic though - no need to copy other players' celebrations

Cotteral is in the same team

I think the West Indies have a culture of senior fast bowlers taking a young fast bowler under their wing. Clearly he is learning a lot with Sheldon

 

[world cup captain]

Cotteral is in the same team

I think the West Indies have a culture of senior fast bowlers taking a young fast bowler under their wing. Clearly he is learning a lot with Sheldon

Teams in western countries tend to form a brotherhood which quite frankly doesn't happen in the subcontinent. Western players tend to perform for their teams, whereas, our players tend to try to one-up each other.

These tournaments, despite being T-20 are far more important than playing in our PSL or KPL.

 

[unemployedgm]

He didn’t fail. The system failed him.

 

[unemployedgm]

I think Naseem is gifted but his gifts are raw. Like most of our cricketers he lacks skill. Unfortunately those developing those skills takes good coaching, training, and competitive cricket. Mainly competitive 50 over and 4-Day cricket. He hasn’t played much of either so if he’s learned to move the ball that’s certainly not something that will manifest itself in 20 over cricket.

 

[MenInG]

Hopefully better days ahead for Naseem

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Champions! Alhamdulillah.<br><br>I am deeply grateful to my Captain Dwayne Bravo who gave me that much-needed support. Your trust and faith had made me more confident in and off the field. I enjoyed every minute of playing with you. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CricketPlayedLouder?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CricketPlayedLouder</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CPLFinal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CPLFinal</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SKNPATRIOTS?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SKNPATRIOTS</a> <a href="https://t.co/0jGy2kHuNl">pic.twitter.com/0jGy2kHuNl</a></p>— Naseem Shah (@iNaseemShah) <a href="https://twitter.com/iNaseemShah/status/1438386332183801857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2021</a></blockquote>
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[Shafi]

Luckily Waqar is not there anymore. He will improve under professional bowling coach.

 

[mastimasti]

Two good performances in the tournament but what this kid really needs now is about 2 seasons of FC cricket, with as many Pak A matches as possible. This is the only way he can be a test calibre bowler.

 

[mazkhan]

He's a poor man right arm version of junaid khan

I don't see him as a test bowler his height is limited.

Junaid khan was a much better bowler and more taller.

 

[Savak]

He's a poor man right arm version of junaid khan

I don't see him as a test bowler his height is limited.

Junaid khan was a much better bowler and more taller.

Short bowlers are only effective if they are frequently clocking 90-95 mph pace with reverse swing, once that goes away they are nuetered.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Desis giving stare to Caribbean look really funny. Total mismatch of physical attributes.

Even worse here because Naseem is just a kid as of now.

Sorry bro but speak for your own genes. Pakistani's have much better "physical attributes" when it comes to being physical prowess.

 

[Abu_Hamza]

Sorry bro but speak for your own genes. Pakistani's have much better "physical attributes" when it comes to being physical prowess.

He has compared him with West Indies players and Naseem isnt some gigantic personality. West Indies players are known for their physical attributes. And also recently Pak players havent been that better with physical prowess like Afridi, Shoaib Akhtar etc.

 

[ExpressPacer]

He has compared him with West Indies players and Naseem isnt some gigantic personality. West Indies players are known for their physical attributes. And also recently Pak players havent been that better with physical prowess like Afridi, Shoaib Akhtar etc.

Go and look at how Misbah, Wahab, Irfan and the like looked, if you want examples from recent cricketers.

As for the current batch, Hasan Ali is pretty jacked but yes, I agree, not genetically big, the way European or African cricketers are. However, none of our cricketers are Kuldeep Yadavs or Chahals either.

 

[shah_1]

Ridiculous statement. Bowling 4 overs a day is nothing vs bowling 20 overs on the 5th day of test match when the result is on the line.
Test match you need the art of setup.
Different art and more difficult to master.

I didn't say it is more difficult than test cricket

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

I didn't say it is more difficult than test cricket

Okay. my bad. Thanks for clarifying. I think he should be playing more 4 day cricket to learn the art of setup apart from a couple of leagues for financial security.

 

[Mesozoic]

He's only 22-23 in real world so still has a lot of time to get better. Too early to say he's a "failed" anything.

At the same time, it'd not be a wise thing to expect him to become some world beater that he was made out to be after he got that road hattrick/5fer against Bangladesh at home. He has way too many limitations to even go down that road..

 

[Mesozoic]

Go and look at how Misbah, Wahab, Irfan and the like looked, if you want examples from recent cricketers.

As for the current batch, Hasan Ali is pretty jacked but yes, I agree, not genetically big, the way European or African cricketers are. However, none of our cricketers are Kuldeep Yadavs or Chahals either.

Chahal I can understand as he's quite a rare case, but Kuldeep? Seriously? Let alone Azam Khan or Sharjeel.. have you seen Haris Sohail..or Yasir Shah.. or Abid Ali?

 

[ExpressPacer]

Chahal I can understand as he's quite a rare case, but Kuldeep? Seriously? Let alone Azam Khan or Sharjeel.. have you seen Haris Sohail..or Yasir Shah.. or Abid Ali?

Agreed with your point about fitness bro. I never said that our cricketers are fitter than their Indian counterparts. Indians are miles ahead in fitness. I’m talking primarily about the genetic build and how our cricketers are bigger compared to Indian cricketers.

The Indian poster said that desis look meek doing aggressive celebrations because they are smaller. I was just telling the brother to speak for himself and not Pakistanis who aren’t similar in weak Indian builds.

 

[Mesozoic]

Agreed with your point about fitness bro. I never said that our cricketers are fitter than their Indian counterparts. Indians are miles ahead in fitness. I’m talking primarily about the genetic build and how our cricketers are bigger compared to Indian cricketers.

The Indian poster said that desis look meek doing aggressive celebrations because they are smaller. I was just telling the brother to speak for himself and not Pakistanis who aren’t similar in weak Indian builds.

Yeah yeah the good ol' bigger "genetic build".

That probably explains why Babar, Rizwan, Fawad, Fakhar, Hasan Ali etc look so much bigger than the "weak build" Kohli, Dhawan, Pujara, Rahul, Bumrah etc. Now it all makes perfect sense.

 

[MenInG]

Thread is about Naseem.

Leave the whole genetic stuff out of it.

 

[moghul]

He's a poor man right arm version of junaid khan

I don't see him as a test bowler his height is limited.

Junaid khan was a much better bowler and more taller.

He is taller than Hasan ALi.

 

[ethan hunt]

Naseem shah is bowling beautifully these days.

Has anyone noticed the improvement in pace, run up and swing post injury?
Hopefully he keeps this up and works on his control. He was all over Rizwan and fakhar today.
Showing the potential that initially got him noticed.

 

[Titan24]

Yes it has been noticed since CPL. He is bowling really well, changeups have added extra dimension as well as confidence in his bowling. Rhythm looks real good as well.

Hopefully he can develop further from here.

 

[ataullah]

Really happy to see the variations, slower bouncers, pace, rhythm, cutters, swing and everything...dwayne bravo has helped him apparently

 

[shah_1]

Beautiful first over, just classical bowling

 

[asadee]

Has definitely improved

 

[Ahmed216]

What a ball to dismiss fakhar. Use of the crease to create an unplayable angle on an incoming yorker. Class

 

[Last Monetarist]

Seems in good rhythm:

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[Rana]

Seems in good rhythm:

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Looks like he has zero talent here

 

[Mamoon]

He is looking good because he is bowling at his level. The standard of batting in CPL and Pakistan domestic cricket is nothing to write home about.

Take him to IPL today and he will get smashed like no tomorrow, and if you select him in Test cricket against a top lineup, he will produce his usual figures of 70+ average.

Our fans need to stop making excuses for him and stop blaming others for the fact that he is not the bowler they think he is and he is not going to have the career they have fantasized in their heads.

 

[MenInG]

He is looking good because he is bowling at his level. The standard of batting in CPL and Pakistan domestic cricket is nothing to write home about.

Take him to IPL today and he will get smashed like no tomorrow, and if you select him in Test cricket against a top lineup, he will produce his usual figures of 70+ average.

Our fans need to stop making excuses for him and stop blaming others for the fact that he is not the bowler they think he is and he is not going to have the career they have fantasized in their heads.

When he bowls in IPL, then we will consider your opinion.

Until then, your opinion does not match what we are seeing from Naseem.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It's kinda shocking the kind of expectations our fans have from our fast-bowlers. Here is a kid who debuted in Australia: a literal graveyard for Pakistani fast-bowlers and a place that recently destroyed the test careers of other young bowlers like Mason Crane and Tom Curran. Not only did he not let that debut not define him but he came back to take a hat-trick in just his 4th or 5th test match.

But people here are still expecting him to be the second coming of Shane Bond in his third year playing professional cricket.

For gods sake, take a second and think about how stupid and ridiculous you sound with your unrealistic expectations. How many teams in the world throw their young teenage fast-bowlers on the field against Australia on their test debut?

Heck, how many teenage fast-bowlers have England, Australia, India, New Zealand, South Africa debuted in the last few years? How many (if any at all) of them took a hat-trick and a five wicket haul in their first few matches? How many of them can dial it up to 140+ consistently while being able to swing it?

Stop having unrealistic expectations from our young players...especially our young fast-bowlers. Give them the chance to develop and grow. Its international cricket, not a cakewalk.

And if you want to start comparing Naseem to others look at the people from his age-group. Where are Nagarkoti, Mavi, LLoyd Pope, Mnyaka, Madushaka, Tyagi? Because I don't even see them anywhere close to playing international cricket for their respective countries.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

LOL if IPL really was the gold standard of T20 cricket than Shaun Marsh would still be in the Australian T20 side and Amit Mishra would be a T20 legend playing every T20 for India.

 

[gazza619]

Naseem looked decent in the new ball spell.

Pakistan desperately needs a new ball bowler in all formats.