I never cited them as my experts, so thank you for the straw man, I merely stated I agreed with them on these specific points. They have, however, played for their country with distinction, something which you never have. It’s remarkable that you, and others on this forum, have such utter contempt and disrespect for your own former greats, instantly dismissing anything they say notwithstanding their performances and experiences in this specific field. That says more about your attitude, and perhaps indicates some kind of complex, than it does about the validity of my comments. I’m sure Waqar knows a potential world-class quick when he sees one, even if he isn’t quite so magnificent as a national coach. Bear in mind that since you decided to bring in all these foreign coaches and stopped listening to your own domestic greats you’ve started to go down the same path as hockey/squash and for the same reasons.
Again, I suggest you try to understand what I wrote rather than assuming what I didn’t imply. It’s not about Bumrah’s extra yard of pace - he’s doesn’t have one in absolute terms, it’s about the ability of the batsman to pick up the ball through his unusual action allied to the fact that he’s much closer to them when he delivers. That’s very difficult to coach against; this is known and well documented and had you played the game to decent level or had any involvement with it, you would know that. It’s his bowling action not the pace per se. A weak away-swinger, for example, delivered at 85-87mph from a 5ft 9in bowler would not cause the problems he does under normal circumstances.
Furthermore, I suggest you desist from the condescension. I’ve watched more international cricketers over the last 4-5 decades than you ever will. I don’t just watch dismissals, I watch entire spells and the fact is for the most part that he is the epitome of gunbarrel straight, certainly when compared to his predecessors and any movement he gets is minuscule for the most part, it’s just that modern batsman are so focussed on scoring in white ball mode, they just can’t leave it alone.
And again regarding Naseem Shah, I never said he was a bad bowler, I just made it clear that he could have been, and still could be, far better had it not been for your domestic coaches’ efforts. So please, read what I actually wrote and refrain from misrepresenting my posts. If you want to compare a bowler who’s approximately 5ft 9in to someone who’s not far shy of a foot taller than him and pretend their bowling actions have any relevance then I’ll leave you be. He was never Mark Wood to you because you never saw him before his injury. Anyone who knows anything knows he’s a serious quick with a medium-pace action currently.