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So finally at the age of 34 gets to play his first Test match.
Will he be a one Test wonder or play for Pakistan for a few more years?
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What is the argument for why you pick him ahead of Mohammad Asghar (22) or Sajid Khan (27)?
When is Pakistan going to invest in the future?
You need to relax a bit on your obsession with 30 years age threshold. Fitness standard overall has picked up.What is the argument for why you pick him ahead of Mohammad Asghar (22) or Sajid Khan (27)?
When is Pakistan going to invest in the future?
What is the argument for why you pick him ahead of Mohammad Asghar (22) or Sajid Khan (27)?
When is Pakistan going to invest in the future?
He is in his 40s but it is not an issue. You can select old spinners on Asian pitches against non-Asian sides.
He has a wealth of experience bowling on these wickets and his chances of doing well are higher than that of an inexperienced, young spinner.
Besides, our young players have no talent anyway.
Having said that, I would have picked Nawaz over him. He is severely underrated - he is treated like a second class citizen compared to the blue eyed Shadab, even though he is a better all-round cricketer across formats.
What is the argument for why you pick him ahead of Mohammad Asghar (22) or Sajid Khan (27)?
When is Pakistan going to invest in the future?
He is in his 40s but it is not an issue. You can select old spinners on Asian pitches against non-Asian sides.
He has a wealth of experience bowling on these wickets and his chances of doing well are higher than that of an inexperienced, young spinner.
Besides, our young players have no talent anyway.
Having said that, I would have picked Nawaz over him. He is severely underrated - he is treated like a second class citizen compared to the blue eyed Shadab, even though he is a better all-round cricketer across formats.
As expected solid. The one that got Elgar was a beautiful piece of bowling but generally has struggled to get the ball off the straight.
I'm 34 and I look half his age. How the hell is this guy 34!
Age isnt important for spinners, its the skills levels. Nothing good or bad, as i said earlier he just looks solid.
Agree, age is hardly a factor for a spinner unless he's approaching 50, but it is still annoying that in this day and age they are declaring false ages when it should be pretty easy to verify the accuracy.
Well only in Pakistan people make decisions based on seniority and age. He has no belly though unlike Pakistani youngsters with uncle bellies. But yeah Pakistanis should not lie about their ages. It is no crime to get a debut at the age of 44.
These guys are faking ages because everyone else is. Its upto the PCB to deal with this nonsense and its getting worse, I know of people that know Shadab, Amir and Najaf Shah and have all faked their ages between 3-4 years. Its the reason why Amir looks like he is on his last legs when he is supposedly 28.
One more thing, only in Pakistan at 40 people are considered old. In Germany, when I told my doctor my mom died at the age of 55 due to diabetes he said your mom died young. Here in Germany women are over 50+ still look so young.
Age isnt important for spinners, its the skills levels. Nothing good or bad, as i said earlier he just looks solid.
Not sure this true. Spinners decline after the age of 36 or so. Warne, Murali, Kumble , Herath were all good after that but they were past their peaks and their performances declined rapidly.
Not sure this true. Spinners decline after the age of 36 or so. Warne, Murali, Kumble , Herath were all good after that but they were past their peaks and their performances declined rapidly.
I was looking for spin away from the right handers and with that action its going to be difficult. The arm ball is a variation but its the bread and butter that takes wickets. Lets hope there is more to come
I think he did a good job. Horses for courses and I expect to see more of him at home and in Asia, perhaps not much in SENA. We always have a spinner in the side like Nauman, slightly older, experienced who can hold an end and dry the runs up. I have no problem with him. I would like to see a younger leg spinner in the lineup along with a younger spinner in too..
hoping Umar khan and Usman qadir can step up next season..
For now Nauman bhai is solid and is doing his job.
He is in his 40s but it is not an issue. You can select old spinners on Asian pitches against non-Asian sides.
He has a wealth of experience bowling on these wickets and his chances of doing well are higher than that of an inexperienced, young spinner.
Besides, our young players have no talent anyway.
Having said that, I would have picked Nawaz over him. He is severely underrated - he is treated like a second class citizen compared to the blue eyed Shadab, even though he is a better all-round cricketer across formats.
Exactly... these age-bashers have no clue what they are talking about...
Spin line-up of Yasir/Nauman/Sajid or Zulfiqar/Nauman/Yasir would be devastating for any touring-side...
Teams would be out for 150ish...
If you give the ball to Hassan or Shaheen, expect to be hit for runs
What about a 25 year old spinner with a 10+ year shelf life?
We should be aspiring to produce the next Warne or Murali or Kumble.
I want to see a 35 year old Pakistani spinner with over 400 wickets in international cricket.
Like I said before there is no price on the jersey anymore. The standards have been lowered.
He's gonna have to step up with the bat as well. Averages 20 in FC, need a contribution from him today.
Best pacer in qea hasan ali
Best spinner in qea uncle Norman
What a pathetic state of affairs that these are our top domestic performers.
So much for tabdeeli of domestic cricket .
Why didn't we just play nawaz or persist with shadab or even give a wildcard like usman qadir a go who doesn't look too bad .
Best pacer in qea hasan ali
Best spinner in qea uncle Norman
What a pathetic state of affairs that these are our top domestic performers.
So much for tabdeeli of domestic cricket .
Why didn't we just play nawaz or persist with shadab or even give a wildcard like usman qadir a go who doesn't look too bad .
So what you are suggesting is that we handcuff these 2 and then domestic cricket would improve.
No just saying domestic cricket is not all that and maybe shouldn't be the benchmark for selection.
Rather look at u23 or u19 players and arrange more shaheen tours similar to the England lions setup might give us a better gauge on players
No just saying domestic cricket is not all that and maybe shouldn't be the benchmark for selection.
Rather look at u23 or u19 players and arrange more shaheen tours similar to the England lions setup might give us a better gauge on players
Best pacer in qea hasan ali
Best spinner in qea uncle Norman
What a pathetic state of affairs that these are our top domestic performers.
So much for tabdeeli of domestic cricket .
Why didn't we just play nawaz or persist with shadab or even give a wildcard like usman qadir a go who doesn't look too bad .
Opposition teams in shaheen tour weren't too bad they were a mixture of intl players , youngsters and new Zealand fc players its easy to dismiss the games.
Conway
Seifart
Devcich
Nuttal
Bracewell
Henry
some of the names off top of my head who were in the opposition teams
The reason the shaheen tour was no benefit is due to pakistan playing mostly regular players in the unofficial test we played our intl team . And the rest of the games being t20s
We were playing wahab and haris rauf against the domestic teams so defeats the purpose of development squad would stuart broad play for the lions , or moeen ali play for the lions under the guise of getting into form.
But again some players stood out like rohail nazir , talat, qadir , amad didn't look too bad whilst likes of wahab and haris intl players were taken to the cleaners
Best pacer in qea hasan ali
Best spinner in qea uncle Norman
What a pathetic state of affairs that these are our top domestic performers.
So much for tabdeeli of domestic cricket .
Why didn't we just play nawaz or persist with shadab or even give a wildcard like usman qadir a go who doesn't look too bad .
The thing with Nauman is that he is far more skilled than Zafar Gohar, he flights the ball well, has some good variations, and generally looks very easy on the eye when bowling. Age goes against him.
In my opinion, this test match he is playing will determine his future, because if Yasir outperforms Nauman, which seems likely, Yasir will get the nod for the Pindi test, and Nauman could be back on the sidelines.
He's done his job to contain runs, and has taken some crucial wickets. I think that he bowls too full sometimes, as the ball which got Markram out was a bit shorter and did the damage. Should also look to bowl a few quicker ones sometimes.
He was someone else who debuted many years late, but we cannot change the past. Hopefully the deserving spinners in the domestic system get chances for international callups.
I hear that Zahid Mahmood is being considered for the SA T20 series. Usman Qadir already debuted against Zimbabwe, so I think we should show continuity. Both are better than Shadab Khan IMO on recent form.
The thing with Nauman is that he is far more skilled than Zafar Gohar, he flights the ball well, has some good variations, and generally looks very easy on the eye when bowling. Age goes against him.
In my opinion, this test match he is playing will determine his future, because if Yasir outperforms Nauman, which seems likely, Yasir will get the nod for the Pindi test, and Nauman could be back on the sidelines.
He's done his job to contain runs, and has taken some crucial wickets. I think that he bowls too full sometimes, as the ball which got Markram out was a bit shorter and did the damage. Should also look to bowl a few quicker ones sometimes.
He was someone else who debuted many years late, but we cannot change the past. Hopefully the deserving spinners in the domestic system get chances for international callups.
I hear that Zahid Mahmood is being considered for the SA T20 series. Usman Qadir already debuted against Zimbabwe, so I think we should show continuity. Both are better than Shadab Khan IMO on recent form.
Mhmm I agree about Shadab Khan on his bowling form. But then again, Shadab brings batting and quality fielding to the table. If Usman can notch up his batting, we may have really good competition in our T20 squad. Also, isn't Shadab injured?
A part of me does want to see Usman and Zahid play together for some reason. Both leggies are wicket taking options. It may turn out really bad as they may leak runs, but I am curious how they will go.