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Today at the ICC academy as the Pakistan players went to work on their batting and bowling, Fakhar Zaman was sent to a separate net where Grant Flower worked did endless throwdowns at him.

Later Sarfaraz Ahmed came over as did Mickey Arthur to offer more advice.

I guess that is the reason for the practice sessions but am just wondering if Fakhar is facing more pressure than he can handle? Is he a victim of his own success?

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He is a victim of having to piggy-back the entire batting line-up minus Babar.
 
Hes probably wondering why he keeps been given snail like opening partners who score to slow and cant rotate the strike.
 
it was sharjeel before now it him. need to give him a more dynamic opener to partner with
 
Its only one failure. He has been in sublime form the past 1 year.

Too much advice will ruin his style of play.
 
We can't just have one aggressive batsman in the line up, need atleast 4-5 minimum
 
Whilst Fakhar was working hard in nets, his partner was taking a break
 
It's just training and taking a picture does not show anything. Fakhar is fine...the only problem is fans claiming this and that.
 
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Select proper batsmen you dimwits. You partner him with a batting order of complete duds and cowards, yes Babar included, sorry if I hurt someone's soft corner, because I'm not just talking about runs, I'm talking about taking initiative.

All these guys come out to clown around, hit a few singles, doubles, dot ball, and peace out to get a nice check and then get on the next plane and walk out with Beats headphones and Rayban aviators to see what's good at the next venue.

Bring some guys who are made for ODIs. Enough with the Maliks, Sarfraz, and favorite nephews. :inzi

/rant
 
Suleiman said:
Select proper batsmen you dimwits. You partner him with a batting order of complete duds and cowards, yes Babar included, sorry if I hurt someone's soft corner, because I'm not just talking about runs, I'm talking about taking initiative.

All these guys come out to clown around, hit a few singles, doubles, dot ball, and peace out to get a nice check and then get on the next plane and walk out with Beats headphones and Rayban aviators to see what's good at the next venue.

Bring some guys who are made for ODIs. Enough with the Maliks, Sarfraz, and favorite nephews. :inzi

/rant
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We've been saying this for the last 12 or so years, that we need proper bats and new faces.

We have new faces and our team has changed a lot in the past 12 years.

You can keep saying the same things but the fact of the matter is this lot is the best you got.

Who will you replace them with?
 
Just one failure, no need to be harsh, the Sachins and Vivs went through much worse during their playing days. With his style of play he isn't going to sustain a 70 average, things will even out and fans should be lenient while judging him. An opening batsman with 45 average and SR above 95 will be a huge asset and FZ is capable of achieving those numbers.
 
There are a lot of expectations of him so they seem to be working hard with him which is good. I hope to see some improvements in the forthcoming matches, hoping he can learn to handle the ball that comes straight into him.
 
I hope management telling him to go out there and play your cricket not to worry about anything.

But I feel lots of pressure has been put on his shoulders. He knows failure is not an option for him. He fails and that increases the chances of pakistan losing.

On the other hand Imam not doing any favors to him either, they both need to concentrate on strike rotation rather than big shots early on. These pitches are not easy to bat on. Once settled then he can unleash himself
 
Swashbuckler said:
Just one failure, no need to be harsh, the Sachins and Vivs went through much worse during their playing days. With his style of play he isn't going to sustain a 70 average, things will even out and fans should be lenient while judging him. An opening batsman with 45 average and SR above 95 will be a huge asset and FZ is capable of achieving those numbers.
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Nah, 45 a bit too high for him. With his technique and stroke play, he'll do good to average 35-38 at above 95 strike rate. Over the long term will be an achievement for him.
 
Suleiman said:
Select proper batsmen you dimwits. You partner him with a batting order of complete duds and cowards, yes Babar included, sorry if I hurt someone's soft corner, because I'm not just talking about runs, I'm talking about taking initiative.

All these guys come out to clown around, hit a few singles, doubles, dot ball, and peace out to get a nice check and then get on the next plane and walk out with Beats headphones and Rayban aviators to see what's good at the next venue.

Bring some guys who are made for ODIs. Enough with the Maliks, Sarfraz, and favorite nephews. :inzi

/rant
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My man Suleiman is spot on here.

I can bet that even Hafeez would have done better than Malik/Sarfraz. He's a better timer of the ball and a stroke player against pace as well. Was good at the champions trophy.

People say we don't have alternatives but they're wrong. The two well known are Hussain Talat and Farhan. You scout and you'll find more .
 
More like the fans are wilting under pressure of embarrassment after gloating about the CT win for the past year.

I doubt this did much to the team. They will bounce back, inshaAllah.
 
Sounds more like fans and media overreacting as usual. He was probably sorting out a minor technical aspect of his game. Good for him.
 
Perhaps Asif Ali can come in at number three to relieve his anxiety of getting out early. He could take solace in a fact that even if he gets out early there will be someone on the wicket to score a few quick runs and divert the pressure back on the opposition.
 
Working hard in the nets is a sign of wilting under pressure ?

Good on him. Fakhar's issue is he likes pace on the ball as is reflected by his strong record in England and NZL. However his average takes a dip in UAE on these trash wickets where it's not as easy to time your shots.
 
Markhor said:
Working hard in the nets is a sign of wilting under pressure ?

Good on him. Fakhar's issue is he likes pace on the ball as is reflected by his strong record in England and NZL. However his average takes a dip in UAE on these trash wickets where it's not as easy to time your shots.
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no you missed the point. he is being given a lot of advice and seems nervous. Hopefully he will be better with a nets work out
 
We need to move on from Grant Flower as our batting coach.

Perhaps Fakhar was feeling a bit down about the last match. I mean he hasn't failed consistently enough to talk about wilting under pressure.
 
Suleiman said:
Select proper batsmen you dimwits. You partner him with a batting order of complete duds and cowards, yes Babar included, sorry if I hurt someone's soft corner, because I'm not just talking about runs, I'm talking about taking initiative.

All these guys come out to clown around, hit a few singles, doubles, dot ball, and peace out to get a nice check and then get on the next plane and walk out with Beats headphones and Rayban aviators to see what's good at the next venue.

Bring some guys who are made for ODIs. Enough with the Maliks, Sarfraz, and favorite nephews. :inzi

/rant
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Well it is easy to point out what's wrong but you should have named 1 or 2 alternatives as well.
 
MenInG said:
no you missed the point. he is being given a lot of advice and seems nervous. Hopefully he will be better with a nets work out
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Obviously after a failure in a high profile game it is natural to feel down. Fakhar however has shown in his international career he's not one to wilt under pressure situations.

India did their homework on him given what happened before in CT final.

Now Fakhar has to keep working hard to improve or find himself like many Pakistani batsmen who had a great first year before falling away after being worked out by their opponents.
 
He got out due to the weight of expectations brought on to him by management and fans and they are trying to correct him by making him train separately with coach? Way to go people. Tell him he is the saviour. The whole batting line depends upon him. That would certainly loosen him up.
 
The problem is that the closest competitor for his spot is sharjeel Khan and he ain’t coming back any time soon. He knows he doesn’t have to perform every game because he can’t get dropped! Compare it with another side like England, even a half century isn’t enough for Roy or Hales to keep their place because they’ve got Bairstow who plays well at the top. Hopefully next psl we’ll see a few new faces at the top that perform well and can put fakhars spot under threat, only then will we see the best of his abilities!
 
YousafTheBeast said:
The problem is that the closest competitor for his spot is sharjeel Khan and he ain’t coming back any time soon. He knows he doesn’t have to perform every game because he can’t get dropped! Compare it with another side like England, even a half century isn’t enough for Roy or Hales to keep their place because they’ve got Bairstow who plays well at the top. Hopefully next psl we’ll see a few new faces at the top that perform well and can put fakhars spot under threat, only then will we see the best of his abilities!
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Your assessment seems off. He is the last person I would accuse of being lazy and feeling too comfortable with his spot in the team. Only in the last series he became the first Pakistani Batsman to score a double-century. He is going from one milestone to another.

I think it is the opposite, he is more likely to be too hard on himself and be unsatisfied with his performance than to be laid back and be complacent. I think that's what happened here. He is the one to get our batting going and since he wasn't able to do so in the last match, perhaps he felt down and need some space and quite time to clear out his head.

I am hoping for new faces from the next PSL too. To finally close the chapter of the likes of Hafeez, Akmal and Shehzad and to have a worth Partner for Fakhar.
 
Prior to the India game he scored an 80 something 2 matches ago and a double hundred 3 matches ago. I think people are overreacting here.
 
Sirris said:
Your assessment seems off. He is the last person I would accuse of being lazy and feeling too comfortable with his spot in the team. Only in the last series he became the first Pakistani Batsman to score a double-century. He is going from one milestone to another.

I think it is the opposite, he is more likely to be too hard on himself and be unsatisfied with his performance than to be laid back and be complacent. I think that's what happened here. He is the one to get our batting going and since he wasn't able to do so in the last match, perhaps he felt down and need some space and quite time to clear out his head.

I am hoping for new faces from the next PSL too. To finally close the chapter of the likes of Hafeez, Akmal and Shehzad and to have a worth Partner for Fakhar.
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With all due respect, the double hundred came against Zimbabwe, and it wasn’t even the strongest Zimbabwe side, not many people remember that innings, and they won’t unless it’s scored against the top 6 sides! And don’t get me wrong, he’s the best batsman in the squad right now, and he’s far from being lazy, but honestly how many times have we seen him sky one and be dropped or land in no mans land? Didn’t he have to do push up in the nets because he kept top edging in training?
 
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I think if Shoaib Malik comes at no.2 /3 for Pakistan (opening slot or so) , it will guide and strengthen the opening and lessen the burden in that part of the team. But then, middle order is one thing for Pak that is a matter of concern I guess. But since they are 15/2 or 30/2 (apart from Zimbabwe tour ofcourse), it is better to stem the rot at the top than at the middle and disturbing the mindset of the players and asking them to play above their potential strike rate capabilities. Long story short, Shoaib or Babar promoting themselves will be better - this will reduce the mental burden of Fakhar and I admire this guy - no bad mouthing, simple cricket, mind-my-business type of player - one of the seemingly gentle guys off the 22 yards ( still cannot forget the CT final)
 
DeadBall said:
Wilting? It was just one failure.
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Omg really, it's just one failure? And here I thought we got a reality check and a much needed humiliation since we are consistently playing good teams and consistently losing to them. I'll sleep well tonight..
 
This is a 30-35 average player,being massively overhyped on PPP.A poor man's dhawan at best.
Babar azam is way better batsman and reminds me of amla minus the shuffle.
 
TeamPak95 said:
Omg really, it's just one failure? And here I thought we got a reality check and a much needed humiliation since we are consistently playing good teams and consistently losing to them. I'll sleep well tonight..
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I was just talking about Fakhar. Stop living in 95 and move on like the rest of us have.
 
Sirris said:
Well it is easy to point out what's wrong but you should have named 1 or 2 alternatives as well.
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I'm not a selector, it's not my job. There are people who are paid good money to do that and to develop the game and players.
 
DeadBall said:
I was just talking about Fakhar. Stop living in 95 and move on like the rest of us have.
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Lol I was trying to be sarcastic :danish. Granted, didn't know you were speaking about Fakhar. I was trying to point out how a lot of people were just jumping to negative conclusions about the team after one loss against a good team. I guess I deviated from the point of the thread, so my bad on that.
 
Fakhar had one failure, no reason to panic about him or give him too much advice. Let him play his natural game.

Sarfraz and Asif ali is where the problem lies.

One is the captain who hardly ever scores anymore, the other is an inexperienced player who has a very poor List A and First Class record.
 
What Pakistani fans expect from him isn't sustainable with his batting style and technique. An asset for Pakistan, but people need to lower their expectations.
 
I'm sorry MIG but what kind of thread is this.
The pressure is on all the batters except fakhar and Babar.
And it is a case of scoring 250 in a few games and we r in the final ( assuming we play 2 spinners)
Why should fakhar be under pressure. It's not like we r chasing 320s where he becomes the main man. ( Even then there SHOULDNT be more pressure on him comparitvely to others)

And do people really expect him to be averaging 70 all his life? Take a look at yourselves!!
 
Abdullah said:
I'm sorry MIG but what kind of thread is this.
The pressure is on all the batters except fakhar and Babar.
And it is a case of scoring 250 in a few games and we r in the final ( assuming we play 2 spinners)
Why should fakhar be under pressure. It's not like we r chasing 320s where he becomes the main man. ( Even then there SHOULDNT be more pressure on him comparitvely to others)

And do people really expect him to be averaging 70 all his life? Take a look at yourselves!!
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its a question. you are free to answer it.
 
The guy just recently scored a double ton so it doesn't make sense to criticise him after one failure as every great player goes through them
 
Doesn't score a 50 in 2 matches ==> wilting under pressure.

From what I have seen Fakhar doesn't really enjoy playing in the UAE too much. He didn't do great against SL either here. Most stroke makers would probably feel the same.

Also he does have the pressure of having to carry the entire batting lineup. Babar is great but he doesn't have the impact of Fakhar. If Fakhar is the axe-head then Babar and others are the axe-handle. Without Fakhar Pakistan's just swinging around a stick.
 
Not at all, fakhar is a solid guy in every aspect. he is totally capable of taking pressure & carrying this batting side on his shoulders.
 
Suleiman said:
I'm not a selector, it's not my job. There are people who are paid good money to do that and to develop the game and players.
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What I was trying to find out was whether you indirectly wanted the return of Akmal brother or Shehzad.

I am also in favor of trying out new players who are more positive in their approach to batting. However I would rather have the current line up than any of the past TTFs back.
 
Do think the management needs to go easy on him, it's becoming obvious as to how reliant they are on him.

Just let him do his thing.

Looked down on confidence today with the dropped catch and then didn't take review while batting. Feel for him.
 
Was wrongly given out. He will bounce back in next match and blast the opposition. Quote me that time.
 
We have to keep supporting him...The longer we stay with him the better he will become. Everybody has ups and downs.
 
Feel bad for him. He is expected to score every time and that seems to have put him under a lot of pressure. His body language looks different. The whole team rides on him and Babar.
 
He will come back strongly soon enough. I'm honestly a little surprised at the lack of confidence some posters have in our players. This is not the same Pakistan team of the 2010s. Every team and every player has a bad day or two, we should be a little patient and not have the knives out after every game.
 
Madplayer said:
Blame Imam. All batsmen ask their partners and so did Fakhar.
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In the press conference Imam said that he left the decision on Fakhar - and he decided against it

More a reflection of Fakhars mental state
 
MenInG said:
In the press conference Imam said that he left the decision on Fakhar - and he decided against it

More a reflection of Fakhars mental state
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I've only ever really watched Fakhar play during the CT final, and to me, he comes across a chilled out kind of unselfish player. So maybe he just didn't want to waste a review and is the type who when he's given out wants to pack up for the day without getting too fussed about things.
 
MenInG said:
In the press conference Imam said that he left the decision on Fakhar - and he decided against it

More a reflection of Fakhars mental state
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Bro, i think still the blame should go to imam. In all honesty, he was the best person on the field to advise Fakhar and if he told Fakhar to decide for himself, i am sorry but that sounds like a mistake on Imam's part to me. Surely Fakhar couldnt have judged whether the ball hit him outside the line or not because it happened so fast.
 
Madplayer said:
Bro, i think still the blame should go to imam. In all honesty, he was the best person on the field to advise Fakhar and if he told Fakhar to decide for himself, i am sorry but that sounds like a mistake on Imam's part to me. Surely Fakhar couldnt have judged whether the ball hit him outside the line or not because it happened so fast.
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think its sometime the confidence that counts - When you are on top, you will not believe you can fail - we have seen it many times when players take bad reviews.
 
MenInG said:
think its sometime the confidence that counts - When you are on top, you will not believe you can fail - we have seen it many times when players take bad reviews.
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Well why is he sweeping in the 1st place?
First over of the game of anything its over confidence.
If your down on confidence atleast take some time to get in.

Hope next game he takes his time like he does when he scores big.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will Fakhar Zaman perform for Pakistan in the crucial Super 4 clash against India today? Here's a video of him practising ahead of the match against Afghanistan <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AFGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AFGvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/INDvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#INDvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AsiaCup2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AsiaCup2018</a> <a href="https://t.co/HZzwdWqA71">pic.twitter.com/HZzwdWqA71</a></p>— PakPassion.net (@PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/PakPassion/status/1043767882335830022?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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btw this video was taken before he went in against Afghanistan....
 
mak36 said:
What match are you watching? He was starting to look good until the umpire decided to help India.
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Umpire decided to help India? He had a review but obviously wasn't bright enough to use it.
 
Varun said:
Umpire decided to help India? He had a review but obviously wasn't bright enough to use it.
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So the umpire isn't expected to make correct decisions?

Also how is getting out in the 15 over early?
 
mak36 said:
So the umpire isn't expected to make correct decisions?
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Being human, he can err. And that's what reviews are for. It doesn't mean that the "UMPIRE DECIDED TO HELP INDIA RAWR".
 
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