[VIDEOS/PICTURES] What went wrong with PIA flight PK 8303 (Airbus A320)?

[PetroDollars]

how can a pilot not realize that the landing gear is not lowered? that seems like such a basic thing. aren't there alarms that go off in the cockpit if they are trying to land but the landing gear hasn't been lowered yet? this is so sad. so many lives needlessly lost

If you listen to conversation between pilot and ATC, you can here the alarm bell in the background, its shocking how he or co-piliot never realised this and mentioned to the ATC - they made school boy errors.

 

[Ryw]

I fail to understand this why poilet didnt inform the control tower about belly landing in his 1st attempt when plane touched on runway, in normal circumstances captain informs control tower about belly landing and CT prepares for emergency Fire birgades etc beside runway.

 

[Waseem]

As per the voice recording, pilots were busy discussing Covid19 as their families were suffering and were over confident which caused couple of serious errors.

As for the fake licences issue, this is far more criminal than error made by pilot (even most experienced can make errors at times). Hate to go back to politics on this but Zardari and Nawaz Sharif governments hired many people to reward their political workers. Most blatant and shameless abuse of their office was seen last year by PMLN leader Mushahidullah. When action was taken against employees with fake degrees, he came to their rescue as all his brothers are PIA employees (jamhooriat is so rewarding Alhamdulillah). And most frustrating thing is that after destroying all the institutions, they all blame Imran Khan for not being able to fix it in 2 years

Senate body slams PIA for sacking employees with fake degrees

https://www.dawn.com/news/1463504/senate-body-slams-pia-for-sacking-employees-with-fake-degrees

ISLAMABAD: A parliamentary body on Tuesday criticised the manner in which the Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) management had dismissed seven pilots and 73 cabin crew for possessing fake degrees, saying rules were not followed for dismissal of services.

“Terminating the service of staff is a drastic action. Nowhere does the Supreme Court order dismiss staff with fake degrees. The court’s directives are to follow procedure under the rules,” said the chairman of the Senate Standing Committee on Aviation, Senator Mushahidullah Khan of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N).

 

[MenInG]

The International Federation of Air Line Pilots’ Association (IFALPA) has called Minister for Aviation Ghulam Sarwar Khan's statement about pilots holding "fake" licenses “on the brink of being reckless” and has offered to assist Pakistan in the ongoing investigation of the crash of Pakistan International Airlines flight PK 8303.

IFALPA was referring to the statement by the minister of aviation in the parliament, where he stated that around 30% of the pilots in Pakistan have obtained licenses to fly through dubious means.

In a letter to Prime Minister Imran Khan, dated July 7, a copy of which is available with Geo.tv, the Canada-based organisation has proposed providing its expertise to help probe the crash in May that killed 97 of 99 people on board.

“The international pilot community is deeply concerned about the unfounded statements made by the Pakistani Minister for Aviation declaring that many Pakistani commercial pilots hold licenses that, in his words, are ‘fake’,” reads the letter. “We find these statements on the brink of being reckless not just for the individuals named, but for Pakistan and its ability to continue operating international air services.”

“We are not here to blame but to provide our expertise to find the truth,” wrote Captain Jack Netskar, president of IFALPA.

"Any of these problems, perceived or real, need to be immediately dealt with for the sake of aviation safety; an interest we all keenly share," Netskar said.

In the letter, the organisation also offered to be part of any task force that is created to deal with the licensing scandal.

"With respect, we strongly believe that those problems can only be addressed effectively at this point with the participation of independent international bodies such as IFALPA, IATA and ICAO.

“It is our desire to see PIA return to its historical place as an aviation leader in the region. We want this for the people of Pakistan, the employees of PIA and our PALPA colleagues," IFALPA said, in the letter.

IFALPA represents more than 140,000 professional pilots around the world in nearly 100 countries. The Pakistani Airline Pilots Association (PALPA) is also a member of IFALPA.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/296950-international

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Probe blames ‘human error’ in PIA’s Karachi plane crash

The final investigation report of the Pakistan International Airline's (PIA) flight nearly four years ago, blamed “human error” and a lack of communication and harmony between the two pilots of the aircraft and air-traffic controllers, a media report said on Sunday.

A PIA Airbus A320 coming from Lahore crashed in Karachi on May 22, 2020. The catastrophic aviation disaster took lives of 99 passengers including the crew and two people on the ground. Only two passengers survived the crash.

The final investigation released by the Aircraft Accident Investigation Board said that the accident was caused by human error. It added that the pilot had been warned four times by the air traffic controller before landing that the plane was at extraordinary altitude.

However, the fifth time the traffic controller allowed the plane’s landing, the findings said, adding that that there was a lack of communication and harmony between the two pilots of the aircraft and the air traffic controllers.

According to the report, the two pilots were not focused as they made the first landing attempt without opening the landing gears, during which its engines struck the runway and caught fire. The report added that the air traffic controller did not inform the pilots about the engine’s fire.

The report further said that the system that provided lubricant oil to both engines went out of order after the engine thudded the runway, stopping both engines at the same time. It added that the plane’s last four-minute data could not be recorded as engine failure cut the electricity supply.

The report also put the administrative responsibility for the accident on the PIA and the Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) as well. It mentioned that the CAA rules regarding the pilots’ flying plane, while fasting, were not evident.

Probe blames ‘human error’ in PIA’s Karachi plane crash | The Express Tribune

Report finds poor communication between pilots, traffic controllers

tribune.com.pk

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Probe blames ‘human error’ in PIA’s Karachi plane crash

The final investigation report of the Pakistan International Airline's (PIA) flight nearly four years ago, blamed “human error” and a lack of communication and harmony between the two pilots of the aircraft and air-traffic controllers, a media report said on Sunday.

A PIA Airbus A320 coming from Lahore crashed in Karachi on May 22, 2020. The catastrophic aviation disaster took lives of 99 passengers including the crew and two people on the ground. Only two passengers survived the crash.

The final investigation released by the Aircraft Accident Investigation Board said that the accident was caused by human error. It added that the pilot had been warned four times by the air traffic controller before landing that the plane was at extraordinary altitude.

However, the fifth time the traffic controller allowed the plane’s landing, the findings said, adding that that there was a lack of communication and harmony between the two pilots of the aircraft and the air traffic controllers.

According to the report, the two pilots were not focused as they made the first landing attempt without opening the landing gears, during which its engines struck the runway and caught fire. The report added that the air traffic controller did not inform the pilots about the engine’s fire.

The report further said that the system that provided lubricant oil to both engines went out of order after the engine thudded the runway, stopping both engines at the same time. It added that the plane’s last four-minute data could not be recorded as engine failure cut the electricity supply.

The report also put the administrative responsibility for the accident on the PIA and the Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) as well. It mentioned that the CAA rules regarding the pilots’ flying plane, while fasting, were not evident.

Probe blames ‘human error’ in PIA’s Karachi plane crash | The Express Tribune

Report finds poor communication between pilots, traffic controllers

tribune.com.pk

Initially they were saying there were some problems with the landing gear. After that, they blamed the pilot that he was not in his senses. Now they are blaming communication issues. I am sure they are trying to hide something going on in the management which cause this crash.

 

[shortbread]

Sad really, so many people lost their lives due to one man's ego, arrogance and influence!

 

[BouncerGuy]

Those who still want to know about this flight should watch this one.