[VIDEOS] Questionable events and decisions during the match between India and Afghanistan

[Mahee]

India should help AFG as much as they can to defeat NZ....Hope Boult, Southee and Santner get injured in the nets just before the match.

 

[Local.Dada]

Another deflection.

If you're not interested or can't answer the questions then simply leave the thread

If anyone here thinks this is about Pakistani's snd their conspiracy theories and fascination with calling anything out as fixing or that Pakistani's can't stand India winning a game of cricket, I would suggest you stop posting in this thread... live a calm life and move on.

But if you want to have a constructive debate then ansrwercthe questions

What constructive debate are you talking about?

You already rubbished the fake video.

You got clarification that Kohli would have chased.

You ruled out any scope for Afghanistan catching India off guard with their call.

You keep harping on why did Nabi bowl 1 over or this guy bowled next over.

News flash: Nabi isn’t some Muritharan who will run through Indian line up and as bad as the Indian batsmen have played Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul are rated as one of the best batsmen in the world.

It’s not like invincible against spin nor India can’t handle pace. Just because Shaheen is a good bowler and he got Rohit and Rahul, the conclusion isn’t exactly Indians can’t play fast bowling or these batsmen have 0 talent and skill.

You don’t want a constructive debate, you want to hear what you want to hear. That is something that can make you say “That is impossible”.

 

[IMMY69]

What constructive debate are you talking about?

You already rubbished the fake video.

You got clarification that Kohli would have chased.

You ruled out any scope for Afghanistan catching India off guard with their call.

You keep harping on why did Nabi bowl 1 over or this guy bowled next over.

News flash: Nabi isn’t some Muritharan who will run through Indian line up and as bad as the Indian batsmen have played Rohit Sharma and KL Rahul are rated as one of the best batsmen in the world.

It’s not like invincible against spin nor India can’t handle pace. Just because Shaheen is a good bowler and he got Rohit and Rahul, the conclusion isn’t exactly Indians can’t play fast bowling or these batsmen have 0 talent and skill.

You don’t want a constructive debate, you want to hear what you want to hear. That is something that can make you say “That is impossible”.

Look please don't go into a rant.
It's better if you just didn't reply then to into a rant.

I saw the entire game with my own eye yesterday.
I hardly comment on game threads, including the Pakistan ones but I felt compelled to yesterday because I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

A team that could make the semis, albeit expected to lose to India, just didn't show up to play.
There were some extremely mindless things happening on the field and I've already given examples of that.

In third eleven club cricket, when the captain sets a field where the third man is up, the bowler should not be bowling half trackers outside off stump. That was minnow level that was below third level club cricket level.

When the best T20 bowler runs in and bowls leg sided filth ball after ball that makes you sit up and say what the hell is going on with the Afghans.

When there is no energy from ball one then that also makes you think...

I'm sorry but this was my feeling as the game was going on and I posted it yesterday on the game thread itself which I don't usually do.

No one can give me proper explanations as to what I was witnessing yesterday and what is more I have many friends (Indian and English) who saw it the same way I was seeing it.
So you can make me out to be conspiracy theorist all you want it won't change what I saw yesterday.

 

[IMMY69]

Furthermore, I have seen India take apart many teams in the past including Pakistan, both in T20's snd ODI's but never did I see Pakistan not putting an effort in or making the right bowling changes, or setting the right fields....

 

[Cricketrenew]

No Afghan have a good team, they were my tip to win the tournament in these conditions.
Afghan fans will be feeling really let down by thier team after such a poor performance and tactics.

 

[Ozeirk]

Technically everything is suspicious if one wants to look at it that way on purpose

Afg bowler allowing pies for Asif Ali to hit 4 sixes in a over
India bowling below par to get only 2 wickets in first 2 games
WI getting bowled out for 55
NZ almost loosing to Scotland
Aus loosing to Eng easily

But of course if one wants to filter and twist events to suit their conspiracy theory, well nothing is out of range of suspicion especially when things dont go their desired way.
Namibia or Afg may defeat NZ and conspiracy theories will reach the moon. I would love to see the comments if that happens....of course with pop corn basket besides me.

Imagine newzeland only getting Boult to bowl one over in a game that will help them qualify to semis. Who wouldnt get suspicious?

 

[ritzy_123]

That you have to ask the Afghans themselves. It's true that Afghans are very conservative when it comes to religion, but their beef with Pakistan is not due to religion but more due to issues of ethnonationalism. It's perhaps why they play with a much more stronger intensity when it comes to Pakistan and their fans attend more in numbers in Af-Pak games.

Just even see the highlights of any game in this world cup except for game against India they played with same intensity.

You can obviously consider all these things in Cricketing Sense but to understand such stuff is also very difficult for a cricket lover such as:

-- To drop Mujeeb in such a tight game

-- He only bowled one over why? Spin trio of AFG is their main strength

-- Karim Jannat bowled one over went for 7 took 1 wicket of Rohit Sharma and then he didn't ball at all

-- And the mother of cricketing tragedy in my opinion AFG also is a contender to play Semi Finals why on Earth you'll bowl first and give India even a chance to score 200 on the board?

As a cricket fan I do understand that AFG is not a minnow team of that level to make such blunders. I'm very upset as a Cricket Fan.

 

[Cric1234]

No Afghan have a good team, they were my tip to win the tournament in these conditions.
Afghan fans will be feeling really let down by thier team after such a poor performance and tactics.

They are new to international cricket but they aren’t good enough at the moment they need a few decent batsmen and a decent fast bowler to make the next step and challenge the best teams winning the World Cup even in T20s is some way off.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Afghanistan India match was fixed.People keep on saying Afghans lost due to wrong tactics.Nabi is a very experience cricketer.He has played in major leagues.Afghan poor show was deliberate plus they did not play Mujeeb.He is fit as a fiddle and will play against N Zealand.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Afghanistan India match was fixed.People keep on saying Afghans lost due to wrong tactics.Nabi is a very experience cricketer.He has played in major leagues.Afghan poor show was deliberate plus they did not play Mujeeb.He is fit as a fiddle and will play against N Zealand.

Mujeeb also missed another game

Nabi is not some Murali. The ball was wet so he didn’t bowl further and probably some bad captaincy. Would have been sketchy if Rashid didnt bowl

 

[shehz]

This match made a complete mockery of the Game of cricket.

Nobody is talking about Asghar Afghan retiring in the "middle" of the tournament or should I say right before the game against India. His first excuse was that he was too emotionally hurt after losing against Pakistan but wasn't too butt hurt when he played Namibia. He led his team quite admirably throughout the tournament.

Mujeeb will be super fit against New Zealand, pulling out right before the India match would've raised red flags, so he sat against Namibia to make his injury look real. And then the tactics....

Too many coincidences for a cash-strapped team that has been operating under the influence of BCCI for years.

Also, I never believed Kohli instructed Nabi, it's sad such a stupid audio clip is harming the validity of suspicious actions that took place on and off the field.

 

[shehz]

You know it will be interesting to get opinions from fans from other countries. I understand the emotions from Indians and Pakistanis could cloud their judgment. Let's have an impartial opinions from fans outside of Pakistan and India

 

[MP2011]

Please believe me when I say this it’s just a tiny bit loud minority

Let’s assume the match was paid off. Kohli will tell Nabi in front of the whole world what he wants to do? if there actually was a fix then wouldn’t india have done it in the dressing room or by some other medium? Like please use some brain cells man.

Also india are among the top teams in the world. And they smashed Pakistan as well only couple of years ago and have been smashing others in bilateral series regularly. Do they really need to fix a match to beat Afghanistan of all teams. You would think india was some minnow team and Afghans world champions if you follow the thread )

Looking at this thread specifically, there are quite a few who still think that this game was fixed.

As for the rest of your post, too much sanity in this insane thread.

 

[MP2011]

And if we were so powerful as it is
being alleged we are in forging backroom deals, we won't have gone with an ICC title for 8+ years now!

At least 1 title would have come from those deals. SL board being our pet (as is being alleged) would have allowed us to win T20 WC in 2014.

Or WI (allegedly another pet of ours) wouldn't have dared to defeat us in last T20 WC SF in front of our own crowd.

Had this been that easy for us then why are you guys even participating in these tourneys?

 

[street cricketer]

Please believe me when I say this it’s just a tiny bit loud minority

Let’s assume the match was paid off. Kohli will tell Nabi in front of the whole world what he wants to do? if there actually was a fix then wouldn’t india have done it in the dressing room or by some other medium? Like please use some brain cells man.

Also india are among the top teams in the world. And they smashed Pakistan as well only couple of years ago and have been smashing others in bilateral series regularly. Do they really need to fix a match to beat Afghanistan of all teams. You would think india was some minnow team and Afghans world champions if you follow the thread )

I have to disagree here, it's clearly not a minority. It has been all over the social media as well and more incredibly, it's been so big so much so that even tv pundits made up of ex Pakistani cricketers have discussed about these conspiracy theories, which I've never come across before in cricket. Conspiracy theories among fans is not really unique but I've never seen a collective meltdown over the result of a inconsequential match even involving ex players, which is baffling more so because Pakistan has already secured its berth for semifinal while this is largely a consolation win for India.

What's baffling for me is that I don't think anything happened out of the ordinary to warrant such a collective meltdown, dropped catches and misfields happen every match but people are looking into "body language" which is arbitrary factor really. Honestly, this sort of reaction does not suit the fanbase of a top cricket team, Pak fans have acted more like the BD fanbase which usually cries about these sort of conspiracy theories to derail Bangladesh cricket in Indian games. It's a petty insecure behaviour and questioning the commitment of Afghan players against India is pretty much the same as hindutvadis questioning Shami's commitment in the game against Pakistan. It's minnow mentality and while there have been of course a few sensible Pak fans who refused to indulge in these petty conspiracy theories like yourself, I hope the rest grow out of this insecurity and paranoia which isn't befitting of the fanbase of a top cricket team like Pakistan is.

 

[LaLoco]

If there wasn’t a recorded evidence of Trio being involved in match fixing then no one would’ve paid heed to them “no balls”. - would’ve been brushed off by saying, it happens in the game of the cricket ;

Or recorded phone calls, etc

 

[Balthazar]

Lost interest in Indian cricket when they decided to become subordinates of BJP/ RSS.

 

[ritzy_123]

And if we were so powerful as it is
being alleged we are in forging backroom deals, we won't have gone with an ICC title for 8+ years now!

At least 1 title would have come from those deals. SL board being our pet (as is being alleged) would have allowed us to win T20 WC in 2014.

Or WI (allegedly another pet of ours) wouldn't have dared to defeat us in last T20 WC SF in front of our own crowd.

Had this been that easy for us then why are you guys even participating in these tourneys?

Almighty knows everything but a sensible person understands everyone has different priorities in our daily routine lives as well. Some pays more attention to little money but they're happy and few people are ready to do anything for more money so it's quite simple to understand why India didn't win any major tournament after that if you're looking for that sort of answer.

India's twitter trend after New Zealand's game was to ban IPL so this also shows everyone knows where the problem lies.

We all know anything can happen in Cricket but the way M. Nabi showed immaturity in terms of Cricketing Sense is still unexplainable and any sane person can easily understand the most important thing that when you're in the race for Semi Finals yourself and the other team needs NRR boost you are not going to bowl under any circumstances.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

It's clear as day what's going on here.

going back to that misfield video,
So as per you this is the only misfield in the 100 odd years of cricket?
Do you factor in that when one dives in a forward motion his/her hands be better in front. by doing that not only do they put themselves in the best position to take a catch at ground level (asuming a catch was on offer which in this case it was not) but also they prevent serious injury to themselves.
In the case above the afghan dude's hands are BELOW his body parallel to the ground and he is travelling at a speed. If he did not remove his hands from below him before he hits the ground he potentially could:
a) dislocate his shoulder with the impact as he is going forward with only his hands and shoulder to cushion the impact
b) break/sprain his elbow/the ligaments/,muscles around it as it could bear the full impact of his fall and his full body weight - at speed.
c) break/sprain his wrist for the same reasons as above
d) break any of his finger bones
e) he could also hit his chin, neck on the ground travelling at speed as he didnt have hands in front to support him
f) If he fell with his hands below him and the ball in his hands, potentially he would be bouncing his belly, hip, abdomen region off the ball, at a great speed and impact causing great injury.
So to avoid this , and this is basic human instinct - just like when u are tripped and are falling your hands tend to go out in front and above you not BELOw and UNDER you.
His diving technique was wrong to start off with, his hands were already below him...abot 30 percent thru the dive he realized he was potentially causing great harm to himself, tried to correct this
- he spread out his hands/extended them...its possible that his fingers got lodged on the turf/brushed the soil resulting in an impact , loosening of the grip on the ball causing release of the ball in obvously the forward direction.

When what is between certain people's ears is fixated on a certain agenda, you see shadows in each nook and cranny and come up with all the fixing masala for every situation including the lack of fizz in your soda or tadka in your paan zarda.
And whilst on the 'fixing' gravy train - wish those who weighed in with their explosions of wisdom sought to check what and where were the twiitter handles on the whole Mo shami affair originated from....from your own backyard...an inconvenient truth that goes against the whole pathetic narrative.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Lost interest in Indian cricket when they decided to become subordinates of BJP/ RSS.

Thanks. Sleep peacefully.

 

[loves_cricket]

How many times AFG have beaten India in any format?
More people digging deeper holes by calling this a fixed match.
Afg players disappointed during deafet by pak because it was a very close match. While they were not in game with India's huge score.
Pakistan playing brilliant cricket so enjoy your team's performance and good luck for further matches

 

[RexRex]

When what is between certain people's ears is fixated on a certain agenda, you see shadows in each nook and cranny and come up with all the fixing masala for every situation including the lack of fizz in your soda or tadka in your paan zarda.
And whilst on the 'fixing' gravy train - wish those who weighed in with their explosions of wisdom sought to check what and where were the twiitter handles on the whole Mo shami affair originated from....from your own backyard...an inconvenient truth that goes against the whole pathetic narrative.

Huh? I am of india origin, just so you know.

 

[mastimasti]

Nabi bowled 1 over, problem is you try hard to prove its a fixed match.. if you follow the game you know why Mujeeb is dropped, or why they bowl first, or why Jannat or Nabi only bowled single over..

I never said the match was fixed. If you read my first post I said I have no idea and I was confident India would win BUT there are certain points that do not make sense. I'm not sure what you mean by "Nabi bowled 1 over"....you are just repeating what I said. Nabi usually bowls his full 4 over spell, why did he bowl so little after only giving away 7 runs?

And what was the reason for Mujeeb being dropped?

 

[Smbhayi]

I never said the match was fixed. If you read my first post I said I have no idea and I was confident India would win BUT there are certain points that do not make sense. I'm not sure what you mean by "Nabi bowled 1 over"....you are just repeating what I said. Nabi usually bowls his full 4 over spell, why did he bowl so little after only giving away 7 runs?

And what was the reason for Mujeeb being dropped?

Nabi not bowled four over against Namibia too, and he's not specialist spinner, he's kinda like Moen Ali.. I believe Mujeeb injured during 2nd game..

 

[IMMY69]

If the Afghans come with full energy and proper plans against the Kiwis then, regardless of result, it will convince me that they purposely played badly against India.

 

[realitygaf]

If the Afghans come with full energy and proper plans against the Kiwis then, regardless of result, it will convince me that they purposely played badly against India.

That’s the catch 22. If they go hard against NZ . Then it shows the only team they didn’t go hard in the entire qualifiers and super 12 is india

 

[pillionrider]

If the Afghans come with full energy and proper plans against the Kiwis then, regardless of result, it will convince me that they purposely played badly against India.

If Mujeeb plays with Rashid Khan, NZ has a good chance of losing. I'm sensing a batting mishap vs spin.

 

[Smbhayi]

Almighty knows everything but a sensible person understands everyone has different priorities in our daily routine lives as well. Some pays more attention to little money but they're happy and few people are ready to do anything for more money so it's quite simple to understand why India didn't win any major tournament after that if you're looking for that sort of answer.

India's twitter trend after New Zealand's game was to ban IPL so this also shows everyone knows where the problem lies.

We all know anything can happen in Cricket but the way M. Nabi showed immaturity in terms of Cricketing Sense is still unexplainable and any sane person can easily understand the most important thing that when you're in the race for Semi Finals yourself and the other team needs NRR boost you are not going to bowl under any circumstances.

So you believe in Almighty and yet you are accusing Afghan on what evidence? Which things are unexplainable in Indians vs Afghan match? If they bat first and India bowl them out under 100 and chase it before 10 over won't you guys say there's something fishy..

 

[Smbhayi]

If the Afghans come with full energy and proper plans against the Kiwis then, regardless of result, it will convince me that they purposely played badly against India.

That’s the catch 22. If they go hard against NZ . Then it shows the only team they didn’t go hard in the entire qualifiers and super 12 is india

They're poor batting team, only against Scotland they got decent start.. Against all other team they barely score over run a ball half way stage (by 10th over).. If you're getting beaten everyone's shoulder will be dropped..

 

[ritzy_123]

So you believe in Almighty and yet you are accusing Afghan on what evidence? Which things are unexplainable in Indians vs Afghan match? If they bat first and India bowl them out under 100 and chase it before 10 over won't you guys say there's something fishy..

First prove this thing that why AFG didn't opt to Bat First in terms of Cricketing Sense? Why on Earth you would want to give India a chance to improve NRR by batting first?

India is a really good team with talented Batters and AFG after fielding a team with one less World Class Spinner (Mujeeb) M. Nabi bowling only One Over all these things makes no sense. Be realistic bro the approach by AFG was quite bizarre.

Second my last paragraph clearly says Cricketing Sense so the whole thing revolves around Cricketing Terms, M. Nabi's experience and there approach towards the game.

 

[ritzy_123]

They're poor batting team, only against Scotland they got decent start.. Against all other team they barely score over run a ball half way stage (by 10th over).. If you're getting beaten everyone's shoulder will be dropped..

Yaar it's quite simple it is hard for you to understand as everyone is Patriotic towards his own country I already mentioned my point of view as a Cricket Fan.

If that performance would've come against Scotland like India did today happily it can be accepted by everyone as Scotland's overall team is much weaker than Afghanistan.

Afghanistan specially in these conditions is definitely a far more better team and they already proved this by playing against every team with good intensity and specially by bambozzling everyone with their Spin Trio except against India.

 

[Civil]

Bhai we gotta let this go. Maybe the toss decision and bowling changes at most are suspicious. The match was always gonna be a beating by a much superior Indian team.

Once NZ beat Afghan all the same folks in this thread will delete this thread fromm their brain history and watch the semi finals rabidly.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

So much stupidity in this thread.
Nabi does not always bowl 4 overs.
Mujeeb is injured.
India is a much better team. India is a much better team then Pakistan as well. Just 1 t20 does not change anything. This thread shows how much certain people are afraid of India. If India makes semis India will win WC.

 

[ritzy_123]

Bhai we gotta let this go. Maybe the toss decision and bowling changes at most are suspicious. The match was always gonna be a beating by a much superior Indian team.

Once NZ beat Afghan all the same folks in this thread will delete this thread fromm their brain history and watch the semi finals rabidly.

Nope it's not like that even if NZ beats AFG for me the most important thing as a Cricket Fan to see them fighting.

In any sports you want two teams to fight rather than one team is playing casually and the other team is giving them phainta of a lifetime.

 

[ritzy_123]

So much stupidity in this thread.
Nabi does not always bowl 4 overs.
Mujeeb is injured.
India is a much better team. India is a much better team then Pakistan as well. Just 1 t20 does not change anything. This thread shows how much certain people are afraid of India. If India makes semis India will win WC.

-- We all know India is a good team.

-- As per the recent performances Spin Trio were bowling all the overs.

-- They were playing against India and to secure a place for Semi Finals M. Nabi is experienced and brave enough to bowl 4 overs when Mujeeb is injured (realistically or not we'll see against NZ)

-- India is not going to play against Pakistan in Semi Finals so no one is afraid plus if we meet India in Finals and lose the game I don't mind it as Pakistan played really well up till now and if we reach the finals I'll be happy as a Cricket Fan.

-- In the end this thread just shows what questionable stuff happened that day on the field from the start of the toss to the end of the game.

 

[Smbhayi]

Afghanistan specially in these conditions is definitely a far more better team and they already proved this by playing against every team with good intensity and specially by bambozzling everyone with their Spin Trio except against India.

Nabi vs Scotland 1-0-11-0
vs Pakistan 4-0-36-1
Vs Namibia 2-0-17-0
Vs India 1-0-7-0
They've 2 world class spinners for the format and one of them didn't play due to injury.. If you watch India vs New Zealand match did you see any intensity with Indian team? Did that mean India also fixed that match?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Fixing the match with India will haunt Afghans if they take pride in their country.Their NRR is worse than India now.It will be India or NZ who will go through.I hope NZ beat Afghans and go to semis.

 

[Smbhayi]

First prove this thing that why AFG didn't opt to Bat First in terms of Cricketing Sense? Why on Earth you would want to give India a chance to improve NRR by batting first?

India is a really good team with talented Batters and AFG after fielding a team with one less World Class Spinner (Mujeeb) M. Nabi bowling only One Over all these things makes no sense. Be realistic bro the approach by AFG was quite bizarre.

Second my last paragraph clearly says Cricketing Sense so the whole thing revolves around Cricketing Terms, M. Nabi's experience and there approach towards the game.

Man it's far easier to bundle them out under 100 and chase within 10 overs than scoring 200 and win by 80+ runs.. So if they play that match to help India then they'd have batted first..

And Nabi, it's logical he don't want to bowl against rhbs after second over gone over 16 runs.. Moen Ali also don't bowl single delivery against Australia despite he's having a very good tournament with ball..

 

[Smbhayi]

--
-- They were playing against India and to secure a place for Semi Finals M. Nabi is experienced and brave enough to bowl 4 overs when Mujeeb is injured (realistically or not we'll see against NZ)

--

He didn't play against Namibia either and that Match happened before IndNz game

 

[ritzy_123]

Man it's far easier to bundle them out under 100 and chase within 10 overs than scoring 200 and win by 80+ runs.. So if they play that match to help India then they'd have batted first..

And Nabi, it's logical he don't want to bowl against rhbs after second over gone over 16 runs.. Moen Ali also don't bowl single delivery against Australia despite he's having a very good tournament with ball..

That's your take on Cricket as a Cricket Fan.

I don't see Afghanistan getting out under 100 bro.

Moeen Ali's comparison doesn't fit in here as England's team is full of match winners as compare to Afghanistan and M. Nabi is a proven match winner and in such a crunch game he should not hide himself specially as a Captain.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Pretending fixing never happens to me is more hilarious than claiming fixing happens. There is enough evidence in World cricket that this has happen before. Lets not pretend this sport is clean as sunlight.

You must be kidding me mate. I am not pretending. All I am asking for is evidence.

Without evidence, Pakistanis have convinced themselves there was fixing. That's collective delusion.

Pakistan's 24x7 news cycle is filled with conspiracies and counter conspiracies of many other kinds.

Typical argument: "You have fixed the match, prove to me you haven't."

If the burden of proof is put upon the accused rather than the accuser, it will lead to a very problematic justice system.

 

[ritzy_123]

He didn't play against Namibia either and that Match happened before IndNz game

Lol in a way comparing Namibian batting lineup to Indian batting lineup

Mujeeb is a proven match winner so the competition becomes interesting Indian Batters vs Afg Spinners.

 

[ritzy_123]

You must be kidding me mate. I am not pretending. All I am asking for is evidence.

Without evidence, Pakistanis have convinced themselves there was fixing. That's collective delusion.

Pakistan's 24x7 news cycle is filled with conspiracies and counter conspiracies of many other kinds.

Typical argument: "You have fixed the match, prove to me you haven't."

If the burden of proof is put upon the accused rather than the accuser, it will lead to a very problematic justice system.

I'm not from Media but Pakistani reputed channels didn't say the match was fixed they quoted again and again the things which popped up on social media and you & me are also on social media we can't stop anyone from saying anything.

 

[Smbhayi]

Lol in a way comparing Namibian batting lineup to Indian batting lineup

Mujeeb is a proven match winner so the competition becomes interesting Indian Batters vs Afg Spinners.

Not comparing, pointing out he was injured before Indian game..

 

[Smbhayi]

That's your take on Cricket as a Cricket Fan.

I don't see Afghanistan getting out under 100 bro.

Well IF they're there to help Indian nrr then it's very much possible, nah? and nobody question them since they aren't a good batting team (against Pak at one stage they were like 72-6 after 13th over)..

 

[ritzy_123]

Well IF they're there to help Indian nrr then it's very much possible, nah? and nobody question them since they aren't a good batting team (against Pak at one stage they were like 72-6 after 13th over)..

You're not getting it bro me and you are comparing probabilities. In cricket everyday is a new day the argument can go on forever I can say AFG can be 72-0 against India.

I already mentioned as a Cricketing Fan I'm not satisfied with the way AFG approached the game and that was bizarre as M. Nabi is more than experienced to see all these things which we as a Cricketing Fan sometimes see. Sometimes we're right as fans sometimes we're wrong as well.

 

[loves_cricket]

Real pundits and fans of cricket from pp believes that BCCI is buying matches !!!!
Some people who claims to be real cricket fans will stop watching cricket if somehow Namibia loses to India !!!!
I mean come on, how come Afg best team in group B lost to minnow like india !!!
And top of it. How come mighty Scotland loses to india !!!
Realy this is height of fixing and corruption from BCCI buying victories from major teams like Afghanistan and Scotland , the teams known for beating India every time they played !!!
I will say again and again Pakistan playing brilliant cricket so enjoy and all the best for remaining matches
India's WC is over

 

[Uzi]

So much stupidity in this thread.
Nabi does not always bowl 4 overs.
Mujeeb is injured.
India is a much better team. India is a much better team then Pakistan as well. Just 1 t20 does not change anything. This thread shows how much certain people are afraid of India. If India makes semis India will win WC.

We will have to wait and see. Even if India do make the semis, I can see them getting beaten by England.

 

[Cricketrenew]

They are new to international cricket but they aren’t good enough at the moment they need a few decent batsmen and a decent fast bowler to make the next step and challenge the best teams winning the World Cup even in T20s is some way off.

This team bats deep has good bowlers. Before the tournament I thought could win. They have to give 110% though.

 

[iniqbal223]

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This person is a minister . Lol

lots of free time, looks like

 

[globalcitizen]

First prove this thing that why AFG didn't opt to Bat First in terms of Cricketing Sense? Why on Earth you would want to give India a chance to improve NRR by batting first?

India is a really good team with talented Batters and AFG after fielding a team with one less World Class Spinner (Mujeeb) M. Nabi bowling only One Over all these things makes no sense. Be realistic bro the approach by AFG was quite bizarre.

Second my last paragraph clearly says Cricketing Sense so the whole thing revolves around Cricketing Terms, M. Nabi's experience and there approach towards the game.

Ok why Afghanistan batted first against Pakistan after winning toss in dreaded Dubai international stadium. They should have bowled first

Look at results here batting first
55,151,143,154,147,125,110,172,210,73,85

Everytime chasing team won except NZ and India defended against lesser teams . And chasing teams won without breaking a sweat !!

So Afg actually did right thing against india bit may be questionable against Pakistan??

 

[Shazzam]

You must be kidding me mate. I am not pretending. All I am asking for is evidence.

Without evidence, Pakistanis have convinced themselves there was fixing. That's collective delusion.

Pakistan's 24x7 news cycle is filled with conspiracies and counter conspiracies of many other kinds.

Typical argument: "You have fixed the match, prove to me you haven't."

If the burden of proof is put upon the accused rather than the accuser, it will lead to a very problematic justice system.

When there has been evidence of fixing happening in the past. People seeing similar signs to it in these matches. How can one sit there believing Afghanistan played this match with the intent to win like they did in the previous games? You seek evidence yet ignore the questionable decisions made by Afghanistan in this game. Than seek evidence of something sinister behind it all. If you want evidence so bad than read up on the previous match fixing cases than look at this match.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

A picture says a thousand words

After losing against Pakistan




After losing against India

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

When there has been evidence of fixing happening in the past. People seeing similar signs to it in these matches. How can one sit there believing Afghanistan played this match with the intent to win like they did in the previous games? You seek evidence yet ignore the questionable decisions made by Afghanistan in this game. Than seek evidence of something sinister behind it all. If you want evidence so bad than read up on the previous match fixing cases than look at this match.

Yep, no evidence again. You make an assertion and then ask me to investigate and prove it.

Here is a counter suggestion: Prove it and then we talk.

 

[MenInG]

After losing against Pakistan




After losing against India

Could it simply be the case that India as a side are so far ahead of everyone that most teams dont think a huge deal losing to them and with Pakistan - they think they can actually compete?

 

[Shazzam]

Yep, no evidence again. You make an assertion and then ask me to investigate and prove it.

Here is a counter suggestion: Prove it and then we talk.

No its fine I am ok in acknowledging you believe this game is very clean. It has no corruption in it from the higher ups. There were no questionable decisions made by the Afghanistan team in this match.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

No its fine I am ok in acknowledging you believe this game is very clean. It has no corruption in it from the higher ups. There were no questionable decisions made by the Afghanistan team in this match.

My friend, when did I say the game is clean? Personally, I think it has corruption in many areas.

However, I'd hate someone to denigrate our victories by saying they were bought. Same burden of proof lies on anyone accusing India of the same. For this particular game, there may be things that look out of sync, but if you look at any game, there will be things out of line. For example, Pakistan choosing to bat first against Namibia. Imagine if they had lost?

Hence, let's not take away joy of victories from others without proof.

 

[Usman Chadda]

So much stupidity in this thread.
Nabi does not always bowl 4 overs.
Mujeeb is injured.
India is a much better team. India is a much better team then Pakistan as well. Just 1 t20 does not change anything. This thread shows how much certain people are afraid of India. If India makes semis India will win WC.

Says who? India got out-classed by the two proper international teams in their group. Beating up on hapless minnows suddenly makes them favourites again?

 

[Giannis]

So much stupidity in this thread.
Nabi does not always bowl 4 overs.
Mujeeb is injured.
India is a much better team. India is a much better team then Pakistan as well. Just 1 t20 does not change anything. This thread shows how much certain people are afraid of India. If India makes semis India will win WC.

Except India is not a better T20 team than Pakistan, that's something even Indian fans wouldn't say. India doesn't play a lot of T20Is because their focus is the IPL, while Pakistan has consistently ranked among the top T20 teams and even held onto the top spot for awhile not too long ago. No ones scared of India, this is a Pakistani cricket forum so it's obvious that we're not fans of India, it'd be like going on a Yankees forum and expecting them to give positive opinions about the Red Sox, so I don't know why y'all are surprised

 

[MenInG]

Harbhajan's comments:

"We accept that Pakistan have played very good cricket and everyone also appreciates them for playing so well against India and beating them. Congratulations on that. But if you start misbehaving by claiming that you play fair cricket and if we win, you doubt us, term it unfair, fixed then that is wrong. We all know your cricketers reputation."

"Pakistan fans are unable to digest their win over India, which they got after waiting for so many years in World Cups. There is a way to talk and raise questions. But people are putting serious allegations against us, against Rashid Khan which is pretty cheap and disgraceful"

 

[Technics 1210]

Harbhajan's comments:

"We accept that Pakistan have played very good cricket and everyone also appreciates them for playing so well against India and beating them. Congratulations on that. But if you start misbehaving by claiming that you play fair cricket and if we win, you doubt us, term it unfair, fixed then that is wrong. We all know your cricketers reputation."

"Pakistan fans are unable to digest their win over India, which they got after waiting for so many years in World Cups. There is a way to talk and raise questions. But people are putting serious allegations against us, against Rashid Khan which is pretty cheap and disgraceful"

Someone needs to remind Harbajan that more players of Indian origin have been convicted of fixing.

 

[Osman]

India should help AFG as much as they can to defeat NZ....Hope Boult, Southee and Santner get injured in the nets just before the match.

What a disgusting comment to make. What a sick minded individual you are but then not even surprised given you're an India fan. Can't wait to see NZ smash Afg and see Indians everywhere in tears.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Huh? I am of india origin, just so you know.

Immaterial what origin you are or not.
My entire comment was on the misfield vdo that you posted. I gave an explanation of how plausible and how easy is the occurance. I challenge anyone here to run at speed, dive forward parallel to the ground withe your hands below you at abdomen level clutching a hard cricket ball and come out of it without some sort of injury , pain discomfort.
Once again the narrative is fixed-between people's ears, just like the poisonous paid for troll army that started the Mo shami origninated in the padosis backyard.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Real pundits and fans of cricket from pp believes that BCCI is buying matches !!!!
Some people who claims to be real cricket fans will stop watching cricket if somehow Namibia loses to India !!!!
I mean come on, how come Afg best team in group B lost to minnow like india !!!
And top of it. How come mighty Scotland loses to india !!!
Realy this is height of fixing and corruption from BCCI buying victories from major teams like Afghanistan and Scotland , the teams known for beating India every time they played !!!
I will say again and again Pakistan playing brilliant cricket so enjoy and all the best for remaining matches
India's WC is over

Lol...but that sarcasm is lot when whats between people ears is fixed.
And yes -the last two lines are very true.

 

[Major]

I would admit, i joined the fixing bandwagon aswell, but after the match has been done and dusted, i got emotional and it was probably a clean match.

Indications are simple:
1. If we talk about nabi bowling one over, let me remind you nabi has always been a bad captain, against pakistan he he should had used rashid and mujeeb together yet he bowled out mujeeb and than bought in rashid. Than instead of saving an over or rashid he used him up front. Thus nabi as captain is terrible

2. The pitch that was used its the same pitch where islamabad posted 200 plus target and rajistan chased ,190, in 18 overs.

3. When hazratullah came to bat, he showed intent to hit. The first few overs he couldnt hit as the bowlers was able to swing the ball away. Hazratullah showed intent, but due to his bad footwork couldnt connect any.

 

[Major]

After losing against Pakistan




After losing against India

This picture only shows how afghanis hate pakistanis soo much that they want to beat pakistan at any cost. They have friendly relations with india which is why for them beating india is not an issue.

Pakistanis cant accept the fact that we dont have good relations with afghanistan. We have good relations with taliban but the afghan people.

 

[IMMY69]

This picture only shows how afghanis hate pakistanis soo much that they want to beat pakistan at any cost. They have friendly relations with india which is why for them beating india is not an issue.

Pakistanis cant accept the fact that we dont have good relations with afghanistan. We have good relations with taliban but the afghan people.

Well I don't think that's true.
The players play together in the PSL, CPL etc

The extra friendliness towards India may be because they know which side their bread is buttered.

 

[street cricketer]

Well I don't think that's true.
The players play together in the PSL, CPL etc

The extra friendliness towards India may be because they know which side their bread is buttered.

Wanting to beat Pakistan badly doesn't mean they hate Pakistani players. Indian and Pakistani players often get along very well off the field, doesn't mean they don't want to beat each other's team badly on the field.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Wanting to beat Pakistan badly doesn't mean they hate Pakistani players. Indian and Pakistani players often get along very well off the field, doesn't mean they don't want to beat each other's team badly on the field.

The Afghan team was brainwashed by previous governments of Ghani and Karzai.They were puppets of US and India.They blamed Pakistan for the civil war.Their media,politicians and intelligentsia spread venom against Pakistan .India aided and abetted them because it was in India’sinterest to create enmity between Afghanistan and Pakistan.The Afghan team is a subsidiary of BCCI.India has been it’s home for many years.Big bucks given to Afghan team is also a factor.BCCI will reward Afghan team if it beats NZ.Afghans will be charged up against NZ because of the rewards waiting for them.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

The Afghan team was brainwashed by previous governments of Ghani and Karzai.They were puppets of US and India.They blamed Pakistan for the civil war.Their media,politicians and intelligentsia spread venom against Pakistan .India aided and abetted them because it was in India’sinterest to create enmity between Afghanistan and Pakistan.The Afghan team is a subsidiary of BCCI.India has been it’s home for many years.Big bucks given to Afghan team is also a factor.BCCI will reward Afghan team if it beats NZ.Afghans will be charged up against NZ because of the rewards waiting for them.

By your logic woud'nt they have got 'bigger bucks' to beat pak at that stage in the tournament and if true why didnt they beat them?
Considering you know so much and everything is fixed - can you also predict who will be the defeated finalist against us, the two loosing semi finalists, the MOM in all three matches and the player of the tournament?
Will you be honest enough to say you were barking up the wrong tree if Afg loose to NZ?

 

[street cricketer]

The Afghan team was brainwashed by previous governments of Ghani and Karzai.They were puppets of US and India.They blamed Pakistan for the civil war.Their media,politicians and intelligentsia spread venom against Pakistan .India aided and abetted them because it was in India’sinterest to create enmity between Afghanistan and Pakistan.The Afghan team is a subsidiary of BCCI.India has been it’s home for many years.Big bucks given to Afghan team is also a factor.BCCI will reward Afghan team if it beats NZ.Afghans will be charged up against NZ because of the rewards waiting for them.

Filed under conspiracy theory #1753

 

[IMMY69]

Wanting to beat Pakistan badly doesn't mean they hate Pakistani players. Indian and Pakistani players often get along very well off the field, doesn't mean they don't want to beat each other's team badly on the field.

To me it just looked like the Afghans were not up for it against India.
This was from ball one and I said so at the time.

Of course pressure can do strange things to a team and actually I think the manner of their defeat to India and then India's big victory against Scotland has destroyed any remote chance they had for qualifying.

So will they play with freedom tomorrow or put in a below par performance knowing they can't qualify?

 

[Bull]

Afghanistan was never gonna win the match but it's the intent the way they played that particular match.

It seemed very suspicious from the start till the end.They had no intent whatsoever.

 

[street cricketer]

To me it just looked like the Afghans were not up for it against India.
This was from ball one and I said so at the time.

Of course pressure can do strange things to a team and actually I think the manner of their defeat to India and then India's big victory against Scotland has destroyed any remote chance they had for qualifying.

So will they play with freedom tomorrow or put in a below par performance knowing they can't qualify?

India didn't turn up vs Pakistan either. Both in this tournament and the CT final. When this can happen for a team like India, which is far more likely to beat Pakistan than Afghanistan's chances of beating India, it's not really out of the ordinary.

I suspect a lot of Pakistanis have fallen to confirmation bias. They wanted Afghanistan to play very strongly and beat and knock out India and when that didn't happen, they automatically assumed that it must be a fixed match. That's a classic case of confirmation bias. On the other hand, India played equally badly against Pakistan and even worse against New Zealand but most Indian fans accepted that India just had two bad days and didn't question the veracity of the matches.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Afghanistan will play the best game of the whole tournament tomorrow against New Zealand.They will get a heap of money if they beat NZ which will motivate them.

 

[Devadwal]

Afghanistan was never gonna win the match but it's the intent the way they played that particular match.

It seemed very suspicious from the start till the end.They had no intent whatsoever.

Whats about Westindies vs Australia or namibia vs Nz ? Or this is only applicable for india matches

 

[Rajdeep]

So much stupidity in this thread.
Nabi does not always bowl 4 overs.
Mujeeb is injured.
India is a much better team. India is a much better team then Pakistan as well. Just 1 t20 does not change anything. This thread shows how much certain people are afraid of India. If India makes semis India will win WC.

Its called fear psychosis. Pakistani fans are well aware that they caught India off guard on that game and are scared what if they have to face India again. The fear of an imminent loss is making them paranoid and hence all these fixing allegations.

On the NZ - Namibia match thread yesterday, there were posters cheering for NZ and asking to increase their run rate so that India cant qualify. Can you believe it? The same NZ which refused to play in Pakistan just a month ago. The fear of facing India again is real here

Bcoz if anyone understands cricket would know that Afg simply got outplayed that day. As you rightly said, Nabi not often bowls 4 overs and Mujeeb was injured. All Indian batsmen are very good player of spin, hence Afg opted to stick with pace bowling. If the aim was to give India easy bowling, why would they give Rashid Khan (their best bowler) all 4 overs? But then again, logic and Pak fans dont go hand on hand unfortunately. There were fixing allegations made in 2019 world cup, DRS was questioned in 2011, so was BD's win in 99 world cup....the list is long. Fixing allegations by Pak fans in an ICC event is becoming a norm.

I thought after the 10 wickets win over India, these fans would show more heart. But looks like all are running scared and want to avoid India at any cost.

#AageAageDekhoHotaHaiKya

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

After losing against Pakistan




After losing against India

First picture isn’t from this tournament

If you are peddling in a conspiracy Atleast you can try to make the case look as strong as you can

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Its called fear psychosis. Pakistani fans are well aware that they caught India off guard on that game and are scared what if they have to face India again. The fear of an imminent loss is making them paranoid and hence all these fixing allegations.

On the NZ - Namibia match thread yesterday, there were posters cheering for NZ and asking to increase their run rate so that India cant qualify. Can you believe it? The same NZ which refused to play in Pakistan just a month ago. The fear of facing India again is real here

Bcoz if anyone understands cricket would know that Afg simply got outplayed that day. As you rightly said, Nabi not often bowls 4 overs and Mujeeb was injured. All Indian batsmen are very good player of spin, hence Afg opted to stick with pace bowling. If the aim was to give India easy bowling, why would they give Rashid Khan (their best bowler) all 4 overs? But then again, logic and Pak fans dont go hand on hand unfortunately. There were fixing allegations made in 2019 world cup, DRS was questioned in 2011, so was BD's win in 99 world cup....the list is long. Fixing allegations by Pak fans in an ICC event is becoming a norm.

I thought after the 10 wickets win over India, these fans would show more heart. But looks like all are running scared and want to avoid India at any cost.

#AageAageDekhoHotaHaiKya

This is such a typical crap one reads on internet from pseudo psychologists

It is all about getting wins playing fair cricket. Only those wins deserve respect.

Don't forget that only after 2 losses your government is literally locking up people for celebrations and people like Gavaskar are already shouting that "IPL is better than International cricket anyways" talk about 'hurt', 'fear' and 'cope mechanism' the Indian way

 

[Rajdeep]

First picture isn’t from this tournament

If you are peddling in a conspiracy Atleast you can try to make the case look as strong as you can

Yes that first picture is from Asia cup 2018.