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Proteas wicketkeeper batsman, Quinton de Kock has announced his retirement from Test cricket with immediate effect. The announcement comes after the Proteas’ first Betway Test match against India in Centurion, where the visitors won by 113 runs and took a one-nil lead in the three-match series.

De Kock has cited his intentions to spend more time with his growing family for the timing and reason for his relatively early retirement from the format. He and his wife, Sasha, are anticipating the imminent birth of their first-born child in the coming days.

Twenty-nine-year-old De Kock made his Proteas Test debut against Australia in Gqeberha in 2014. In 54 matches, he amassed 3 300 runs with a high score of 141 not-out, at an average of 38.82 and strike rate of 70.93. He also has six centuries and 22 half-centuries under his belt.

The former Test captain’s talent as a wicketkeeper set him apart on the world stage, with 232 dismissals, including 221 catches and 11 stumpings. De Kock has also taken the third-most catches in the inaugural ICC World Test Championship – 48 in 11 matches (47 catches and 1 stumping) and has a personal best of six dismissals in an innings, against England in Centurion in 2019.

His statement is as follows:

“This is not a decision that I have come to very easily. I have taken a lot of time to think about what my future looks like and what needs to take priority in my life now that Sasha and I are about to welcome our first child into this world and look to grow our family beyond that. My family is everything to me and I want to have the time and space to be able to be with them during this new and exciting chapter of our lives.

I love Test cricket and I love representing my country and all that it comes with. I’ve enjoyed the ups and the downs, the celebrations and even the disappointments, but now I’ve found something that I love even more.

In life, you can buy almost everything except for time, and right now, it’s time to do right by the people that mean the most to me.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has been a part of my Test cricket journey from the very beginning. To my coaches, teammates, the various management teams and my family and friends – I couldn’t have shown up as I did without your support.

This is not the end of my career as a Protea, I’m fully committed to white ball cricket and representing my country to the best of my ability for the foreseeable future.

All the best to my teammates for the remainder of this Test series against India.

See you in the ODIs and T20s.

Quinny.”

Cricket South Africa (CSA) Acting CEO, Pholetsi Moseki congratulated De Kock on an exemplary career. He said;

“It’s sad to lose a player of Quinton’s calibre at what we still see as the prime of his career and relatively young life, but family, as we all say here at CSA, is everything. He has been a loyal and proud servant of the Proteas team for the last seven years and we are glad that we have not lost him from the game entirely.

“We value his contribution to the team as a leader and we are grateful for the time and energy that he has given the team in years passed.

“We would like to wish him and Sasha all the best ahead of the birth of their little girl and we are excited to be gaining another member in our cricket family. We look forward to seeing Quinton at his fighting best in white ball cricket.”
 
Hanji phir [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Still doubt my prophecy on DeQock?
 
He is the weakest cricketer I have ever seen, this guy used to feel so much pressure in IPL games.
 
“I love Test cricket and I love representing my country and all that it comes with.“

No you don’t.
 
You could tell he didnt want to play test cricket during pakistan tour and he didnt want captaincy either so no shock hes retired here.

i no longer wish to play tests, but i will play IPL and other T20 leagues and make money, the who family excuse is just as lame as it comes.
 
Extremely hollow words.

Saw this coming a mile off.

He couldn’t wait to retire from Tests.
 
Something really bad is happening there in south african camp. RSA cricket downfall countdown to start.
 
It was clear that he was going to throw in the towel. At the start he looked like the next Gilchrist but never really reached his true potential.

The backup keepers for South Africa like Kyle Verranne and Rickleton have amazing FC stats so hopefully he isn't missed too much in the test arena.
 
Embarassing stuff!

Retiring at age of 29. Wonder this has got something to do with taking the knee thing though.
 
Very talented player. Prolonging career in shorter versions? Test cricket can be a thankless job for very little money.
 
He wont be missed Spend time with his family? Im sure he wont be missing the IPL

I never warmed to him N this was coming He was mentally weak n just didnt seem to show any desire or loyalty to his country
 
Give some credit to South African Cricket management buddy...

If de kock did not have the cushion of lucrative leagues do u think he would have risked falling out with the South african cricket management.?
Budding cricketers around the world are least interested in test cricket. Earlier the goal used to be playing for the country and there was certain glory attached to it. Now its the IPL
 
If de kock did not have the cushion of lucrative leagues do u think he would have risked falling out with the South african cricket management.?
Budding cricketers around the world are least interested in test cricket. Earlier the goal used to be playing for the country and there was certain glory attached to it. Now its the IPL

What are you going on about? SA cricket has always bungled up on career management - that is why they lost so many players to England due to Kolpak. I am sure they will soon open up an investigation into De-kock’s alleged racist deeds soon & push him out entirely like they did to AB, Faf & others.
 
everyone knows whats happening. its obvious despite the words, for a certain group of players, the south african national team is a stepping stone. its a shame because they were a good team, but i seriously doubt they'll ever be as consistently good as they used to.

makes sense to quit rather than just go through the motions, was obvious since the pak tour he didnt care. what is shocking is how out of touch csa are that they didnt realise he didnt wanna be there anymore.
 
If de kock did not have the cushion of lucrative leagues do u think he would have risked falling out with the South african cricket management.?
Budding cricketers around the world are least interested in test cricket. Earlier the goal used to be playing for the country and there was certain glory attached to it. Now its the IPL

Let us say I get an offer of 1 million a year from Microsoft and an offer of 20 million from a low-level company for doing 1/10th of your work at Microsoft. Which one you would take it?

De kock is getting 350k per year from CSA for playing in all 3 formats. Now just 2 formats. Probably will make 200k losing 150k for tests. He has made 11 million through IPL so far. He has to play tests for 73 years to make that money. This is going to be a logical choice for most players.

This is why one has to respect some of the Indian players trying to achieve in Test career something they don't have to do. Someone like Rohit Sharma can retire without playing another test and he will be a super millionaire.
 
May not be about taking knee. He is also taking knee now.

More like he was forced to do so which is why he was able to continue to play the next game after the Windies game in World T20s.

It is simple. The South African board have their priorities and de Kock has understood this which is why he is also clear with his priorities too.
 
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SA are a struggling test side and De kock didnt have stomach for fight or didnt want to attempt to pull them through the mire. Yes he was going to miss 2nd and 3rd tests, why bother playing the 1st if your just going to cry off anyways. Sad and pathetic attitude, CSA should give him the boot from all 3 formats.
 
These things are bound to happen, players don't have enough passion and interest to play test matches these days, lot of easy money on offer by playing T20 leagues. Test cricket will survive but it won't be interesting as only big 3 and may be Pakistan will be able to retain talent. Other boards can't.

Verreynne will get his much deserved chance now. Rickelton is also decent. Dekock won't be missed in test cricket, but anyways that is not the point here.
 
If de kock did not have the cushion of lucrative leagues do u think he would have risked falling out with the South african cricket management.?
Budding cricketers around the world are least interested in test cricket. Earlier the goal used to be playing for the country and there was certain glory attached to it. Now its the IPL

Give a thought...Why this frequently happening with South African cricket.. Why not England, Australia or any other country...
 
I would not give De Kock any NOC to play any T20 leagues.

He won’t need it if he retires from International cricket all together

It will probably happen next year after the T20 World Cup
 
It makes sense.

He earns $500,000 (plus sponsorships) for less than two months' work in the IPL. He can relax for the rest of the year if he wants to or join other leagues while taking long breaks in between.
 
Give a thought...Why this frequently happening with South African cricket.. Why not England, Australia or any other country...

Not unexpected that cricketers like ABD or QdK don’t feel loyalty to a country that has racial quotas for its national team.
 
More like he was forced to do so which is why he was able to continue to play the next game after the Windies game in World T20s.

It is simple. The South African board have their priorities and de Kock has understood this which is why he is also clear with his priorities too.

IN that case he would have retired from all formats right?
 
It could be a case of getting out of sinking ship? I don't think rebuilding of SA team is complete yet since the exit of ABDV/ Faf/ Steyn/ Morkel. It is going to be a while.
 
He won’t need it if he retires from International cricket all together

It will probably happen next year after the T20 World Cup

I thought a player still needs an NOC even if after they retire?

A player may be wanted match fixer and what not, local board needs to give clearance.
 
I thought a player still needs an NOC even if after they retire?

A player may be wanted match fixer and what not, local board needs to give clearance.

I don’t think that’s the case. A retired player who isn’t centrally contracted by the board can do whatever he likes. This is why you have Andre Russell being allowed to play big bash whilst West Indies is touring Pakistan. They are not centrally contracted and cannot be controlled by their boards.
 
Seems all is not well between De Kock and CSA. He failed to take knee as well for BLM. Really sad to see that CSA has become more of political body and their cricket going towards Zim route. Sad would not be able to see him in test cricket now .
 
Qdk is going the Aamir way - no tests, only LOI. Its SA’s prerogative to drop him altogether, but i have a feeling the events of the last few months (the knee incident, sidelining of Faf & AB & the racism allegations against Boucher, Smith etc) could have also played a role here.
 
IN that case he would have retired from all formats right?

That itself is not too far either. But the problem is if he retires from all formats now, where will he take his employment from?

You think if he is not playing any international cricket, he will be able to survive in IPL two years down the line? No chance.

He is an overseas player and there is quota of four players for that and his game vs spin is nothing special either( there are lot of spinners in IPL). So, he had his priorities set here. Play limited overs cricket and stay relevant for IPL. But I fully expect him to retire from LOI cricket too after 2023 World Cup.
 
This is why one has to respect some of the Indian players trying to achieve in Test career something they don't have to do. Someone like Rohit Sharma can retire without playing another test and he will be a super millionaire.

The players know that their board is a mafia and they dance to the tunes of it duly. This is a board that provides scripts to commentators and controls everything that it can under the sun. No one at this moment can say anything or go against the cricketing board no matter their stature.

What options does Rohit have if he gives up test cricket? Which other league he can go and play? What will he do during the time when his team is visiting South Africa?

You pick battles that you can win, this is an unwinnable battle for any player and that's why the chug along with the BCCI train.
 
Not unexpected that cricketers like ABD or QdK don’t feel loyalty to a country that has racial quotas for its national team.

Yes..that thing ruin South African cricket...also not good of test cricket...What a fall..One of the most fierce test team in the history..what a team it was under Gramme Smith.
 
South Africa Cricket will survive as there school system is strong and it will continue to produce good players. The problem they have can't be solved unless some top black batsman appear. They have as a policy made it clear that they want more black players but the problem is that generally the black players( batsman in particular) arent of top quality and that is a structural issue because there aren't enough black players playing and the ones that aren't going to schools with top facilities. How you keep a team competitive and solve the political problem is the million Dollar question.
 
World cricket is suffering because of leagues. Test Cricket is the pinnacle of cricket and must be saved.
 
The players know that their board is a mafia and they dance to the tunes of it duly. This is a board that provides scripts to commentators and controls everything that it can under the sun. No one at this moment can say anything or go against the cricketing board no matter their stature.

What options does Rohit have if he gives up test cricket? Which other league he can go and play? What will he do during the time when his team is visiting South Africa?

You pick battles that you can win, this is an unwinnable battle for any player and that's why the chug along with the BCCI train.

Atleast find a better and reasonable excuses to put all blame on BCCI/IPL..Likes of Sharma,Pant,Pandya will earn millions playing IPL for years without bothering about test cricket..no one forced Sharma/Pant to play test cricket And you really believe top Indian players even care to look at other leagues
 
The players know that their board is a mafia and they dance to the tunes of it duly. This is a board that provides scripts to commentators and controls everything that it can under the sun. No one at this moment can say anything or go against the cricketing board no matter their stature.

What options does Rohit have if he gives up test cricket? Which other league he can go and play? What will he do during the time when his team is visiting South Africa?

You pick battles that you can win, this is an unwinnable battle for any player and that's why the chug along with the BCCI train.
Sharma is 34 years old. Even though he had the talent and kept fighting to get a test spot, he wasn’t picked by BCCI for many years. He can retire tomorrow and no one will blame him.
 
Another Amir type retirement.

This is the impact of T20 leagues on international cricket. Bilateral series are becoming meaningless and a waste of time for many modern cricketers. They'd rather spend that time earning double the money in T20, T10 or even in T5 one day.
 
I have zero respect for guys like Devilliers, dekock, Gayle, Bravo as their priority is only cash. These guys don't want to represent their country but are always ready for t20 leagues.
I have huge respect for likes of Holder, Brathwaite, Karunaratne, Pujara.
 
Sharma is 34 years old. Even though he had the talent and kept fighting to get a test spot, he wasn’t picked by BCCI for many years. He can retire tomorrow and no one will blame him.

Mafia BCCI forcing Rohit Sharma to play test cricket
 
Prepare to see more of these type of excuses and retirements.

Some people, mostly the likes of Nasser Hussain and Atherton saw this coming years ago when T20 was grabbing all the headlines.

They said players won't prioritise Tests anyway and more players will retire early from the longer format to concentrate on the shorter format.

Plus the money is so tempting for these players now that playing in the IPL/BBL/PSL/CPL is a nice way of earning quick bucks w/o the pressures of the Tests format.
 
Primary reason is SA and WI players has issues with their boards, they have lot of internal problems.

Secondary, IPL ( In QDK and few other's case)

Directly or indirectly franchise cricket is killing the Test cricket. Not just IPL, all other leagues are doing the same.

This is not good sign for cricket. I am feeling very sad.
 
I have zero respect for guys like Devilliers, dekock, Gayle, Bravo as their priority is only cash. These guys don't want to represent their country but are always ready for t20 leagues.
I have huge respect for likes of Holder, Brathwaite, Karunaratne, Pujara.

Devilliers is already retired from IPL and all other leagues in just two years time from retiring from international cricket. In contrast, Faf will still be part of an IPL auction next year.

If Devilliers want, he can still go into an IPL auction today and fetch 10 crore price because of lack of power hitter middle order batsman in IPL. But it is quite clear he is more loyal to RCB which is why he retired rather than playing for some other IPL team.

The lack of same loyalty with his own cricket board clearly had something to do with him having a fall with the South African board around 2015-16 because this is a guy who didn't missed a single test between 2004-15 in his first 98 tests career and kept wickets whenever he was asked to.

It is a common understanding that if you don't play any format of cricket, you won't be good enough for IPL either in a span of year or two after retirement. So, to earn huge moolahs from the IPL franchises, players generally look to prolong their LOI careers and not retire early.
 
They all want to keep themselves afresh for IPL and other money making T2o franchise teams. . South African white cricketer are least interested ( 2nd only to WI ) in representing their country.
 
ICC should announce a $30M cash prize for the winner of the world Test championship to be distributed into the winning squad.

Let’s see how then players will retire before 30
 
The players know that their board is a mafia and they dance to the tunes of it duly. This is a board that provides scripts to commentators and controls everything that it can under the sun. No one at this moment can say anything or go against the cricketing board no matter their stature.

What options does Rohit have if he gives up test cricket? Which other league he can go and play? What will he do during the time when his team is visiting South Africa?

You pick battles that you can win, this is an unwinnable battle for any player and that's why the chug along with the BCCI train.

Then why is Sanju Samson or others not into playing test cricket as such.

Players who are passionate for test will play it.
 
He's entitled to do what he wishes with his career, but departing partway through a series leaves his team in the lurch. Why not announce this before the series ?

I have zero respect for guys like Devilliers, dekock, Gayle, Bravo as their priority is only cash. These guys don't want to represent their country but are always ready for t20 leagues.
I have huge respect for likes of Holder, Brathwaite, Karunaratne, Pujara.

Gayle played 100 Tests for WI, he did his time for them.
 
Atleast find a better and reasonable excuses to put all blame on BCCI/IPL..Likes of Sharma,Pant,Pandya will earn millions playing IPL for years without bothering about test cricket..no one forced Sharma/Pant to play test cricket And you really believe top Indian players even care to look at other leagues

Comprehension issues here, this isn't an excuse nor a statement that blames someone or some board - when Indian players will reach a stage where they'll feel that playing for their country isn't beneficial to them, they'll make such choices as well. Right now, they just don't have that choice available to them except to do what they are told.

There's no chance that a player like Bumrah will go on and say that he wants to spend more time with the family and will quit the test series after a bad spell on a crucial tour. They have nowhere to escape right now, and that's the point that you missed.

Sharma is 34 years old. Even though he had the talent and kept fighting to get a test spot, he wasn’t picked by BCCI for many years. He can retire tomorrow and no one will blame him.

There's a lot of money if you are the richest board in the world. I'm not aware of how much test cricketers in India earn, maybe enlighten me on the salaries a bit.

I'd assume test players make a lot of money, and also they get the glory, so there's a substantial benefit to keep doing that. The same benefit isn't available to players of smaller countries and hence we'll see them quit when things get tough.

Then why is Sanju Samson or others not into playing test cricket as such.

Players who are passionate for test will play it.

There's no spot for a keeper batter in the team hence bit-part players will continue to not work hard. Players in the circuit know their strengths and weaknesses and at times you have to concede to a better cricketer. Pant is young and brilliant, ain't no one replacing him anytime soon so there's less incentive to try there.

Plus, there will be some divergent players who'll take the easy route. Chand is an example, even though he could have earned a living in domestic cricket, he moved to the USA. More opportunities and a generally better life with less work plus the bonus that there won't be a witchhunt against you.

Lastly, BCCI is bigger than individual players and can control players effectively. This isn't coming from a place of petty point-scoring or jealousy, this is a fact. Players will earn more and have a much better life if they remain in the good books of the board and everyone understands that.

For DeKock, there's no such benefit to remain in the good books of CSA. He can make his money elsewhere, earlier it was Kolpak contracts, now it's the league money. South African cricket has suffered and will continue to do so, the only people that are shortchanged are the true Proteas fans who never get to see their best 11 players playing cricket for their own country regularly.

I mean this is just a list of some people who could have been playing this test for RSA but aren't

Conway
Wagner
Labushagne

and if we just go back a little Pieterson was a major player who didn't represent the country.

In an unequal environment, no one who is strong will complain about the nature of inequality or see it as a harmful thing, in fact, they'll argue that this is the natural order of things and should continue.
 
He's entitled to do what he wishes with his career, but departing partway through a series leaves his team in the lurch. Why not announce this before the series ?
He was skipping the next two tests any way for personal reasons.
 
29 year old.

Such a shame that players are retiring at such ages. I guess the lure of white ball cricket is just too much to turn down.

Stop playing Test cricket = play longer in the T20 leagues around the world.
 
Can't say I'm shocked. But I guess money is everything to him. What I will say is that there are a ton of players that want to play for RSA. they Love our country and will give everything without holding us to ransom. Anyway Goodluck to him and his family.
 
South Africa Cricket will survive as there school system is strong and it will continue to produce good players. The problem they have can't be solved unless some top black batsman appear. They have as a policy made it clear that they want more black players but the problem is that generally the black players( batsman in particular) arent of top quality and that is a structural issue because there aren't enough black players playing and the ones that aren't going to schools with top facilities. How you keep a team competitive and solve the political problem is the million Dollar question.

Can't solve it without solving poverty. The reason we keep producing black bowlers and not batsmen is simply a matter of economics. Bowling requires physical attributes. Batting requires a lot. Doesn't help that cricket is an expensive sport. Where do you think kids are gonna get bat's from? It's sad to then come here and see Indian and Pakistani posters saying racist stuff about blacks and all. It's tough. It also doesn't help to have entitled white players who think they are better people than others.
 
Probably got fed up (like other before ABD etc) with politics in SA cricket - reservations, BLM demostrations etc.
 
It's a shame that such a promising cricketer has resorted to retirement from Test cricket.

When he came onto the international scene, he was truly special. In my mind, he was the true heir apparent to Gilchrist for international cricket. But over the past couple of years, he has become a shadow of the player he used to be. Looks highly disinterested and cannot string a long innings of any sort in any cricket.

Maybe IPL has changed his priorities, I don't know. But he's not doing too great at IPL level either. He needs to have a good honest discussion with himself on how to regain his form. Right now, his body language suggests that he is devoid of any passion to play international cricket.

It would be very sad if all we see of De Kock are these middling 30s and 40s, when he's capable of much more. I hope we see the De Kock of old back into play.
 
Can't solve it without solving poverty. The reason we keep producing black bowlers and not batsmen is simply a matter of economics. Bowling requires physical attributes. Batting requires a lot. Doesn't help that cricket is an expensive sport. Where do you think kids are gonna get bat's from? It's sad to then come here and see Indian and Pakistani posters saying racist stuff about blacks and all. It's tough. It also doesn't help to have entitled white players who think they are better people than others.

Most Indian and Pakistani posters have directed their criticism only towards QdK. Only few have blamed anyone / anything else.
 
Can't solve it without solving poverty. The reason we keep producing black bowlers and not batsmen is simply a matter of economics. Bowling requires physical attributes. Batting requires a lot. Doesn't help that cricket is an expensive sport. Where do you think kids are gonna get bat's from? It's sad to then come here and see Indian and Pakistani posters saying racist stuff about blacks and all. It's tough. It also doesn't help to have entitled white players who think they are better people than others.

Well the saffer government has been in power for 27 years and the unemployment rate is off the scale and corruption is like any where else in Africa.and levels at what we have it. The problem isn't economics , its the lack of passion from the black Africans for cricket and political moves can't change that. In Afghanistan they are much poorer and have next to no facilities and have produced bowlers for the ages and real talented batsman, so your theory doesn't hold water.
 
It's a shame that such a promising cricketer has resorted to retirement from Test cricket.

When he came onto the international scene, he was truly special. In my mind, he was the true heir apparent to Gilchrist for international cricket. But over the past couple of years, he has become a shadow of the player he used to be. Looks highly disinterested and cannot string a long innings of any sort in any cricket.

Maybe IPL has changed his priorities, I don't know. But he's not doing too great at IPL level either. He needs to have a good honest discussion with himself on how to regain his form. Right now, his body language suggests that he is devoid of any passion to play international cricket.

It would be very sad if all we see of De Kock are these middling 30s and 40s, when he's capable of much more. I hope we see the De Kock of old back into play.

Totally agree. He’s a middling player in IPL these days and I feel he could find it difficult to get selected by any franchise in the coming years. He’s no ABD.
 
29 year old.

Such a shame that players are retiring at such ages. I guess the lure of white ball cricket is just too much to turn down.

Stop playing Test cricket = play longer in the T20 leagues around the world.

It's big money and less hassle.
 
Hanji phir [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Still doubt my prophecy on DeQock?

Man any one of us who isn't biased saw this coming. QDK and whinged and moaned his way out of the captaincy, has purposefully thrown away any responsibility, has moaned about racial causes, has looked like a lost little boy as I called him and ultimately been a pathetic excuse for a cricketer.

I truly believe CSA should not push select him in LOS either. He provides nothing.
 
lol people complaining..

its his choice. Wouldn't most of you do the same if given the option of making better money legally elsewhere
 
Whilst the political situation in the South African Cricket must have played a part in QDK's retirement, one cannot deny that T20 leagues played a part in this.

Would QDK have retired had he not had the option of earning big money from franchise cricket? The "spending time with family" excuse would not exist either if he wasn't off for 6 weeks at a time playing franchise cricket.
 
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lol people complaining..

its his choice. Wouldn't most of you do the same if given the option of making better money legally elsewhere

He was getting that opportunity anyways.

CSA gave their players the opportunity to skip international cricket and play IPL. Even though the IPL has its own designated window. He would make as much money playing for SA whilst playing any other T20 league besides IPL as it is. Plus if you understand western culture, QDQ isn’t from a poor family by any means, he isn’t dying for money like the Pakistani players are who mostly come from poverty
 
Test cricket is dying and isn't a priority for most players.

Already seeing more 40 over and 20 over cricket being played here, no body has the time to play 2 day cricket here. That's two whole days gone for most.
 
ICC should announce a $30M cash prize for the winner of the world Test championship to be distributed into the winning squad.

Let’s see how then players will retire before 30

$30 million? The ICC does not want to spend $30 on test cricket. The ICC could not care less about test cricket. Also, where is this $30 million going to come from?
 
$30 million? The ICC does not want to spend $30 on test cricket. The ICC could not care less about test cricket. Also, where is this $30 million going to come from?

Afghanistan Cricket Board
 
Man any one of us who isn't biased saw this coming. QDK and whinged and moaned his way out of the captaincy, has purposefully thrown away any responsibility, has moaned about racial causes, has looked like a lost little boy as I called him and ultimately been a pathetic excuse for a cricketer.

I truly believe CSA should not push select him in LOS either. He provides nothing.

Yup..they should drop him from all cricket..these white saffers just can't understand why black players are being given chances..just read up on the recent investigation into racial problems..he's a disgrace of a cricketer if you ask me..
 
There’s no pride in representing SAF anymore if you’re white. You can’t have an opinion, he didn’t want to bend the knee and got antagonized for it. Inferior players being selected just because they are a darker shade. What kind of culture is that? No wonder he wants to make a quick buck and be on his merry way.

More white cricketers need to follow suit to teach the SA cricket board a lesson. Give equal rights or continue mixing cricket with politics.
 
My opinion is he is retiring because he realised he cannot contribute much in tests with his constant failures, otherwise he would not had made himself available in first place and resigned before the series.
 
Feels like he was just establishing himself as one SA's main players after the retirements of the likes of ABD, Steyn, Duminy and Du Plessis etc.

I think it makes SA quite a bit weaker but its his own choice and best of luck to him.
 
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Can't solve it without solving poverty. The reason we keep producing black bowlers and not batsmen is simply a matter of economics. Bowling requires physical attributes. Batting requires a lot. Doesn't help that cricket is an expensive sport. Where do you think kids are gonna get bat's from? It's sad to then come here and see Indian and Pakistani posters saying racist stuff about blacks and all. It's tough. It also doesn't help to have entitled white players who think they are better people than others.

Just a friendly bit of advice buddy. Don't expect better from Indians and Pakistanis just because they're brown people. Quite a few of our people are as racist as some of the racist white South Africans, if not more. Heck our people are racist to our own kind in the subcontinent, so it's not really a surprise if they're racist towards black people. I find a lot of parallels in the quota for black players in the South African team to the reservation system in India, and there is as much strong objection to the reservation system within India from the privileged as there's to the quota system for blacks within South Africa.

I think the quota system is a bit complicated. I understand the principle of the system as having a national team where the majority was literally absent for decades in the team was a broken system. Something had to be done and so I understand why it was implemented in the first place. Cricket, like you say is an expensive sport, unlike football or even rugby for that matter as all you need is a ball to play. Cricket requires proper pitches, equipments for batsmen, cricket balls that don't last as long as a football does, etc. It's why even in traditional countries like England, cricket is more of a private school sport and you see very little public school players, while it was an upper class sport in India for a very long time. Since black people suffer form higher levels of poverty as a result of historical oppression, you are always going to get less black people participating in cricket as opposed to say football or rugby.

I'm not sure what's the current requirement of quota, but if the players are not coming through in batting as you say, you could perhaps have slightly lesser spots reserved for quota. At the same time, measures to increase the participation of black players in the sport through grass root programmes can help greatly. I remember listening to Philander speak about how he came from a place where the development wasn't high but he became a role model for the young black kids in that area, that helped them get into the sport. The aim should be to create black role model players for young black kids like Ntini, Philander, Rabada (eventhough he came from an affluent family), Ngidi, etc., so that they aspire to become the same by taking up the sport.
 
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