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On what basis is someone extremist if its within the law. Or are you making up new laws as you go alongIs that a genuine question?
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On what basis is someone extremist if its within the law. Or are you making up new laws as you go alongIs that a genuine question?
On what basis is someone extremist if its within the law. Or are you making up new laws as you go along
Islamists don't have history of extremism in the UK?On what basis is someone extremist if its within the law. Or are you making up new laws as you go along
As I said if they do, lock them up. Outside that who are you to make up laws.Islamists don't have history of extremism in the UK?
TBH you won't find a more welcoming country like Britain or Europe for that matter. I have lived here for last decade and a half and can vouch for that. However, if for example you go to a street in Delhi or Karachi and you only see foreigners there, places which are almost a no go zone for native people we won't be very pleased. And if those foreigners have history of extremism and only want to implement their culture without trying to assimilate, people will speak up. This is exactly what is happening in Britain which people are gas lighting it as Far Right extremists.
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Lol what a ignorant post.The white majority of UK built the British Empire.
They built the country where Pakistanis Bdeshis Indians Africans Arabs all flocked to.
If any of these immigrants becomes a threat to them, well politicians will be able to control it only for a short time.
UK isn't an empire anymore. Its resources are not the same. It can only support so many.
Is that a genuine question?
The same GB news who are validating Thuggery and extreme acts of the 400 arrested far right extremists
Are these people who attacked the Sky news journalist and that pub are not thugs?
Are you comparing the riots with this?
They are. Arrest themAre these people who attacked the Sky news journalist and that pub are not thugs?
off course. Nothing compared to the damage Right wing extremists have caused up and down the country?
Lol what a ignorant post.
Of course the white majority built the British Empire. The countries they occupied resulted in Britain becoming the economic super power it is today.
Who is comparing? I think you guys are missing the point.
As per your own admission, these guys are thugs too who attacked the Sky news journalist and marched into a pub attacking a lone person.
But, just like we have seen police surrounding the far right protestors, why don't see a single one here?
People are angry on this two tier policing system.
No one condones violence, whichever group it may be. However, how state and media behaves is what people are angry about.
You ve been quiet all week on the extreme thuggish behaviour of the far right, and ONE isolated case of young Asians retaliating to racial discrimination and you've come to a conclusion of a Two tier policing.Who is comparing? I think you guys are missing the point.
As per your own admission, these guys are thugs too who attacked the Sky news journalist and marched into a pub attacking a lone person.
But, just like we have seen police surrounding the far right protestors, why don't see a single one here?
People are angry on this two tier policing system.
No one condones violence, whichever group it may be. However, how state and media behaves is what people are angry about.
The right wing is baiting them for a confrontation to further the hate agenda, shouldn't be stupid to fall for that trap. It's clear in that video the lad who took the first swing understood his mistake and was pushing away other cowards kicking the drunkard on the floor.Still inexcusable, these British Pakistani guys should not be acting in a similar manner to the thugs who have been wrecking Britain for the past week.
Are these people who attacked the Sky news journalist and that pub are not thugs?
The right wing is baiting them for a confrontation to further the hate agenda, shouldn't be stupid to fall for that trap. It's clear in that video the lad who took the first swing understood his mistake and was pushing away other cowards kicking the drunkard on the floor.
Who is comparing? I think you guys are missing the point.
As per your own admission, these guys are thugs too who attacked the Sky news journalist and marched into a pub attacking a lone person.
But, just like we have seen police surrounding the far right protestors, why don't see a single one here?
People are angry on this two tier policing system.
No one condones violence, whichever group it may be. However, how state and media behaves is what people are angry about.
Show me the police on that video I posted. Thank youThe fact you are using the words "two tier policing" speaks volumes about you and the way you lean]
It's a tagline parroted by idiots with very little thought to what they are actually claiming
What exactly is two tier policing?
Show me the police on that video I posted. Thank you
What ? They should be jailed bro and then case closed.Following the pub incident in Birmingham, elders from the local Muslim community have offered apologies to the owner and victim in person, even offered compensation for the damages caused. Quickly and smartly intervened, resolved, case closed.
According to your logic if one country is stronger then the other they should take over commit mass murder and take their resources.Those countries lost in wars. They didn't give resources out of kindness. Why did they lose?
Those countries lost in wars. They didn't give resources out of kindness. Why did they lose?
Because it's Mosques they want to attack
This is real leadership. It was disgusting behaviour from the guys. We are Muslims, unlike the fascist thugsFollowing the pub incident in Birmingham, elders from the local Muslim community have offered apologies to the owner and victim in person, even offered compensation for the damages caused. Quickly and smartly intervened, resolved, case closed.
Freedom of speech do you know what that is? Pleasantly surprised the Muslims have shown restraint
Amazing speech by next PM for Britain
Anything's possible in the current political climate and he could become the next PM.
I presume you would vote for him, just a thing to remember. A member of the same party labelled Rishi sunak a useless Pxxx
Not going to listen to what he has to say but I suspect it's ironic considering he's the guy that incites such riots with his misinformationAmazing speech by next PM for Britain
I am so surprised some of these Indians supporting people like this idiot. Do you really think he cares about you Indians? For him you are a brown guy just like any other brown guy from SC. Deep inside he doesn’t want to see you in UK and he is dreaming about pure White English cities. He can rant as much as he likes but he have to live with every kind of person, otherwise he can just lock himself in his house. The World is a global village now, you like it or not.Amazing speech by next PM for Britain
It was just a hypothetical reply to a guy whose fixated to anything or anyone against muslimsHe cant become the next PM, zero chance of it happening. He's a lazy grifter who has always proposed simplistic solutions to complex problems. Being in charge means you actually have to provide solutions which is not Farage's forte
Also Labour and Lib Dem have become good at tactical votes to minimise cutting each other's vote share. But Reform and Tory voters have no experience of tactical voting. Reform voters are mostly protest voters who were really mad at the Tory Party. But Tories have an established constituency of older upper middle class white voters voters who will never cross over to reform.
The only way Farage becomes PM is to merge his party with the Tories, basically a hostile takeover. The chances of that happening at least in the next few years are zero.
LOL why are you keep repeating the same thing? As a Pakistani, you should be offended by it rather that anyone they don't like generalize him with that term. I hate that term myself as I don't think it should be used just like N word should be used against blacks.Anything's possible in the current political climate and he could become the next PM.
I presume you would vote for him, just a thing to remember. A member of the same party labelled Rishi sunak a useless Pxxx
LOL why are you keep repeating the same thing? As a Pakistani, you should be offended by it rather that anyone they don't like generalize him with that term. I hate that term myself as I don't think it should be used just like N word should be used against blacks.
None of the people alive in UK today ever looted India. It was British empire that did it.I am so surprised some of these Indians supporting people like this idiot. Do you really think he cares about you Indians? For him you are a brown guy just like any other brown guy from SC. Deep inside he doesn’t want to see you in UK and he is dreaming about pure White English cities. He can rant as much as he likes but he have to live with every kind of person, otherwise he can just lock himself in his house. The World is a global village now, you like it or not.
And how quickly some Indians have forgotton how these White people looted India. And now these jokers are complaining about immigrants. Just deal with it, no other way. There will come more In sha Allah.
None of the people alive in UK today ever looted India. It was British empire that did it.
Britain is under no obligation to take any immigrants. Their leftist spineless cowards are destroying their own country by bringing in people from third world who have very little skills to contribute to the economy. They will all be burden on British publics precious tax dollars.
Will Turkey or Uzbekistan or Persia or Arabs allow millions of Indians into their lands and get free money and boarding just because their ancestors once ruled India and looted it? Not just allowing them into their lands. But also allow them to spread Hinduism and get voting rights and alter the political map of those countries?
If anything, UK is too lenient on all these illegals entering its country. It is such a small Island with less population. They will lose their culture and identity of they do not control all the illegal immigration. They will lose everything.
Look at what these riots have resulted in. Indian nurses that NHS depends on going back.You are absolutely waffling and just making loads of absurd points
1) "Britain is under no obligation to take any immigrants."
Of course they aren't, however what isn't told is that Britain has an ageing population, what ageing populations need are immigrants, that's a reality, Britain is an immigrant country no matter how far back you go
2) "Their leftist spineless cowards are destroying their own country by bringing in people from third world"
Net migration increased under the right wing Tory government so how exactly is this the fault of the leftist?
3) "who have very little skills to contribute to the economy"
It's not only highly skilled people that contribute to the economy, even low skilled people can bring a positive impact. Immigrants actually provide a net benefit to the UK economy
4) "Will Turkey or Uzbekistan or Persia or Arabs allow millions of Indians into their lands and get free money and boarding just because their ancestors once ruled India and looted it? Not just allowing them into their lands. But also allow them to spread Hinduism and get voting rights and alter the political map of those countries?"
Turkey is a terrible example considering they have received the largest number of refugees of any country between 2014 to 2019. As for Indians that move around the world, they are a very subservient bunch, probably more nationalistic than religious, so they don't care for their religion that much or at least are willing to sacrifice it so they can try and fit in (ties in with that bootlicker mentality unfortunately a lot of them have)
5) "If anything, UK is too lenient on all these illegals entering its country. It is such a small Island with less population. They will lose their culture and identity of they do not control all the illegal immigration. They will lose everything."
Can't recall if it was you are someone else but what exactly is their culture and identity? And why can't that culture/identity change? It's already changed over the years. On the subject of "illegals", any idea why the number has increased?
Look at what these riots have resulted in. Indian nurses that NHS depends on going back.
'Scared' nurse will leave Northern Ireland - BBC News
The Belfast Health Trust says it is aware of 10 nurses from overseas who are leaving Northern Ireland.www.bbc.co.uk
@Geordie Ahmed doing a tremendous job in this thread in exposing intellectually impoverished arguments. On two-tier policing, the Economist pulled no punches:The fact you are using the words "two tier policing" speaks volumes about you and the way you lean]
It's a tagline parroted by idiots with very little thought to what they are actually claiming
What exactly is two tier policing?
@Geordie Ahmed doing a tremendous job in this thread in exposing intellectually impoverished arguments. On two-tier policing, the Economist pulled no punches:
"Many of the wild claims that fire up anti-immigrant protesters are simply untrue. One belief is that senior officers practise “two-tier policing” in which white people are treated less fairly than ethnic minorities. But that is nonsense. In the year ending in March 2023, the police carried out 24.5 stop-and-searches for every 1,000 black people and 5.9 for every 1,000 white people. The story that participants in a separate riot in Leeds in July escaped justice because they were Roma is also wrong; so far there have been at least 27 arrests. Perhaps some people are genuinely gulled by these falsehoods, perhaps they spread them knowing well that they are false. Either way, the truth often seems to count for less than lies that confirm people’s prejudices." (emphasis added)
1) Having Ageing population does not mean you let anyone and everyone into the country who show up at your border in a dingy. There is a reason every country has an immigration system in place. You take the best and brightest and the ones who can contribute to the economy right away without being burden on the Government.You are absolutely waffling and just making loads of absurd points
1) "Britain is under no obligation to take any immigrants."
Of course they aren't, however what isn't told is that Britain has an ageing population, what ageing populations need are immigrants, that's a reality, Britain is an immigrant country no matter how far back you go
2) "Their leftist spineless cowards are destroying their own country by bringing in people from third world"
Net migration increased under the right wing Tory government so how exactly is this the fault of the leftist?
3) "who have very little skills to contribute to the economy"
It's not only highly skilled people that contribute to the economy, even low skilled people can bring a positive impact. Immigrants actually provide a net benefit to the UK economy
4) "Will Turkey or Uzbekistan or Persia or Arabs allow millions of Indians into their lands and get free money and boarding just because their ancestors once ruled India and looted it? Not just allowing them into their lands. But also allow them to spread Hinduism and get voting rights and alter the political map of those countries?"
Turkey is a terrible example considering they have received the largest number of refugees of any country between 2014 to 2019. As for Indians that move around the world, they are a very subservient bunch, probably more nationalistic than religious, so they don't care for their religion that much or at least are willing to sacrifice it so they can try and fit in (ties in with that bootlicker mentality unfortunately a lot of them have)
5) "If anything, UK is too lenient on all these illegals entering its country. It is such a small Island with less population. They will lose their culture and identity of they do not control all the illegal immigration. They will lose everything."
Can't recall if it was you are someone else but what exactly is their culture and identity? And why can't that culture/identity change? It's already changed over the years. On the subject of "illegals", any idea why the number has increased?
If they are scared, they can go back. No one is holding them for ransom. There will always be replacements from around the world waiting in the ranks.Look at what these riots have resulted in. Indian nurses that NHS depends on going back.
'Scared' nurse will leave Northern Ireland - BBC News
The Belfast Health Trust says it is aware of 10 nurses from overseas who are leaving Northern Ireland.www.bbc.co.uk
This is why there is immigration system. Britain will take people that are ready to work and have necessary skills. You don't take anyone that shows up at your border with a Katori.They are clowns
Some basic research would show how reliant the care system is on immigrants, they do the job the natives aren't willing to do
They talk about immigrants stealing their job but there is a work ethic issue amongst those that will complain and riot
The irony of you asking others to understand the difference when you use the terms interchangeably and conflate the twoThis is why there is immigration system. Britain will take people that are ready to work and have necessary skills. You don't take anyone that shows up at your border with a Katori.
Before calling people clowns, understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration. You are quick to pull the trigger on anyone that does not go with the illegal immigration narrative.
1) Having Ageing population does not mean you let anyone and everyone into the country who show up at your border in a dingy. There is a reason every country has an immigration system in place. You take the best and brightest and the ones who can contribute to the economy right away without being burden on the Government.
2) Even the right wing in GB is leftwing. That is the issue. Hence people are turning to far right.
Firstly I never mentioned speaking the language and secondly that's just not true. My grandad couldn't speak English and he worked harder than any person I've ever known. He contributed far more to this country than a lot of these native white racists you seem to bootlick3) Again, you cannot contribute if you cannot speak English. Britain reserves the absolute rules and can let in who they want to.
4) Turkey received the refugees from Syria which is a Muslim nation. Turkey will not let millions to flood their land if those Syrians were Christians or Hindus or Buddhists. Its easy to let in people when they are closer to your kind. Indians are grateful and will not protest in the west or do vandalism. It is a good quality to have.
I am talking about letting illegals in who have nothing in common with the natives and then give them citizenship and voting rights eventually. This has serious impact on the overall system. No Islamic country gives citizenship to non-muslims like this. Indians in Middle East have been working there for decades. None of them have citizenships and get to vote there. Arabs are not woke stupid like Western nations. This is why natives are rising up.
5) UK identity is White, Christian and English speaking putting their country and culture first. I don't have to explain this thing again and again. Funny you guys want to keep the culture in your native lands, but want to change everything in the west.
You don't need to know politics to criticize illegal immigration.
Looks I touched a sensitive nerve here.
UK politics or US politics. The issue is illegal immigration. Its the same and I am totally against it.lol if you dont know UK politics, then that's fine. Not everyone knows about every country's political system.
But dont pretend to be an expert and make ridiculous statements like "UK's right wing is left wing" Basically dont give away how little you know about the subject so easily, just parrot the talking points you have heard somewhere else and move on
UK politics or US politics. The issue is illegal immigration. Its the same and I am totally against it.
Funny to see all People getting super defensive about illegal immigration. This is why UK is burning.
I cannot go on and on about this.
Your granddad does not represent all asylum seekers who cannot speak English.
Illegal immigration is what I am against. It does not matter if they are war refugees or economic refugees. These people will not go back even if the condition back in their home country improves. You cannot let anyone and everyone that shows up at your doorstep. Illegal immigration is mafia driven. No sane person encourages it.
I am totally for controlled legal immigration. I am not going to go again and again on what native culture is. I have explained what it is several times.
Got nothing to do with jive, I'm not telling anyone they are out of their depth, I'm specifically telling you because you are all over the shop when it comes to this discussion.Keep telling that anyone who does not jive with your views is out of depth in the conversation. If that makes you sleep better.
^ Admit to what? That illegal immigration is great for UK?
No womder UK is burning. Even Ireland is seeing anti immigration protests.
Globalists and socialists will meet their end soon.
@Geordie Ahmed - bro are you reading Elon Musks tweets or have you seen what #s are trending in UK? Do you think X will be banned in UK now?
I believe Indians are generally happy accept they are second class citizens for the most part, even their second or third generations seem to adopt the perennial immigrant status despite having been born in the country of their residence. They will often refer to their willingness to integrate as opposed to other nationalities. Of coures integration in their minds means simply assimilation. British Pakistanis are always happy to integrate in Britain as part of the multicultural society which shares the same laws and values.I am so surprised some of these Indians supporting people like this idiot. Do you really think he cares about you Indians? For him you are a brown guy just like any other brown guy from SC. Deep inside he doesn’t want to see you in UK and he is dreaming about pure White English cities. He can rant as much as he likes but he have to live with every kind of person, otherwise he can just lock himself in his house. The World is a global village now, you like it or not.
And how quickly some Indians have forgotton how these White people looted India. And now these jokers are complaining about immigrants. Just deal with it, no other way. There will come more In sha Allah.
5) UK identity is White, Christian and English speaking putting their country and culture first. I don't have to explain this thing again and again. Funny you guys want to keep the culture in your native lands, but want to change everything in the west.
Globalists and socialists will meet their end soon.
Pakistanis unnecessarily losing the advantage by being idiots
Are these people who attacked the Sky news journalist and that pub are not thugs?
I think overall have been restrained compared to previously but eventually some of these far right will be killed in any confrontations which the media will highlight making the situation worse .
IMO it’s calmed down but the Zionist media & social media want to keep it moving .
There doesn't seem to have been that many incidents of organised violence in retaliation by British Pakistanis, but there have been a couple of groups out looking to retaliate, but there was only one which saw genuine violence and that was the pub in Birmingham where the white guy at the pub started hurling abuse at the passing march.
But any ovestepping the boundaries will end badly for Muslims, that is why it's important to show restraint. The media is owned by vested groups who want to present them in a bad light given the first opportunity. Protect your properties by all means, just don't be stupid and act in the same way as the Tommy Robinson crews.