[VIDEOS] Shadab Khan's bowling versus Usman Qadir's bowling

[Major]

Usman qadir is spinning it. Bowling better legbreak and googlies compared to shdab.

All his deliveries fell in right space.

Shadab bowls too full and cant spint the ball.

With Usmans bowling performance today i think shadabs days would be numbered

 

[azimiqbal]

Agreed as bowling option would pick Usman even for one day cricket , whats surprising is he has all the tools to succeed in 4 day cricket

 

[mazkhan]

He's one of the best spin prospects we have
Should be tried out in odi and tests as well

 

[Bilal_103]

better than Shadab based on the eye test

 

[Thunderbolt14]

We should begin playing two leggies. None of our other spinners are good enough except maybe Imad.

 

[Saj]

Is this regarding their bowling or all-round abilities?

 

[Major]

Bowling abilities only

 

[azimiqbal]

Usman as bowler looks far threatening then shadab but of course shadab the far better batsman

 

[Mamoon]

As much as I dislike Shadab for being the mediocre cricketer then he is, I will never support Usman. It is a matter of principle.

He couldn’t cut it in FC cricket and started crying, publicly stated that he wanted to play for Australia and after they gave him a reality-check, he came back to Pakistan with his head hanging in shame.

I cannot wait to see good players of spin put him in his place, but even if he proves to be the next Warne, I will never support him.

I don’t detest any cricketer as much as Usman Qadir.

 

[Saj]

Bowling abilities only

There is no comparison when it comes to bowling.

I guess the management are looking at all 3 facets of the game.

 

[ataullah]

Usman should play 4 day cricket. He looks to have matured over the last year or so. Usman vs Chahal could be a future thread

 

[Rellu_Katta]

As much as I dislike Shadab for being the mediocre cricketer then he is, I will never support Usman. It is a matter of principle.

He couldn’t cut it in FC cricket and started crying, publicly stated that he wanted to play for Australia and after they gave him a reality-check, he came back to Pakistan with his head hanging in shame.

I cannot wait to see good players of spin put him in his place, but even if he proves to be the next Warne, I will never support him.

I don’t detest any cricketer as much as Usman Qadir.

kinda agree... so wat abt Sami Aslam and half of SA team? esp players who now want to play for SA again given kolpak has rolled back

 

[ElRaja]

both should be in the xi when shaddy is fit, shadab should take faheems spot, better batsman, fielder as well.

usman looks good, but he hasnt really come across any good players of spin in internationals, so early days.

 

[Major]

As much as I dislike Shadab for being the mediocre cricketer then he is, I will never support Usman. It is a matter of principle.

He couldn’t cut it in FC cricket and started crying, publicly stated that he wanted to play for Australia and after they gave him a reality-check, he came back to Pakistan with his head hanging in shame.

I cannot wait to see good players of spin put him in his place, but even if he proves to be the next Warne, I will never support him.

I don’t detest any cricketer as much as Usman Qadir.

True.

But than we had younis khan going crying to media aswell.

Look if a guy can prove himself with performance than i dont mind.

Im a big supporter of shadab khan, but he doesnt spin that muxh.

After saeed ajmal, im finally seeing some quality spin, atleast today

 

[azimiqbal]

There is no comparison when it comes to bowling.

I guess the management are looking at all 3 facets of the game.

In any forms of cricket especially t-20 cricket wickets are priceless , we have to move away from bits and pieces cricketers

If you take wickets you win , you don’t win if someone takes 1 wicket and scored a quick fire 20

 

[Mamoon]

kinda agree... so wat abt Sami Aslam and half of SA team? esp players who now want to play for SA again given kolpak has rolled back

Kolpak situation is different. It is a systematic problem in SA cricket and a lot of talented white players don’t get picked, so it is understandable that they take the Kolpak route.

If Sami’s venture in USA fails and he comes back, he should also not be considered for selection.

Usman thought he would walk into the team because he is Abdul Qadir’s son. He couldn’t perform in FC and played the victim card.

He should have never been picked after he declared that he wants to play for Australia. Unfortunately, he is close friend’s with Babar.

 

[Mamoon]

True.

But than we had younis khan going crying to media aswell.

Look if a guy can prove himself with performance than i dont mind.

Im a big supporter of shadab khan, but he doesnt spin that muxh.

After saeed ajmal, im finally seeing some quality spin, atleast today

Younis never said that he wants to play for another country and didn’t leave Pakistan.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

Kolpak situation is different. It is a systematic problem in SA cricket and a lot of talented white players don’t get picked, so it is understandable that they take the Kolpak route.

If Sami’s venture in USA fails and he comes back, he should also not be considered for selection.

Usman thought he would walk into the team because he is Abdul Qadir’s son. He couldn’t perform in FC and played the victim card.

He should have never been picked after he declared that he wants to play for Australia. Unfortunately, he is close friend’s with Babar.

very close friend... and we wont see the last of him.. esp given his performance ...

its a problem in SA and WI .. and i bet we would have half of Pak players running scramping around if they got offers as SA WI ... Aamir is prime example

 

[Rellu_Katta]

Younis never said that he wants to play for another country and didn’t leave Pakistan.

he just cried for the sake of it

 

[Suleiman]

He seems improved. Any technical analyst wants to do a comparison of Usman few years back and now, feel free, would be interesting.

He was getting smashed couple years back iirc. Maybe it’s mindset shift since he’s returned back home to play or something technical. A man hungry for success and on a mission is more dangerous than a man who is just derping around in a haze.

 

[Major]

Nawaz is not spinning the ball.

This guy has soo much spin thay even aleem dar got ot wrong on the lbw. Aleem dar hasnt been wrong sinxe 11 and got wronged by usman qadirs bowling due tk the unnatural amount of spin

 

[Stewie]

This kid has some talent. Rather than worrying about T20, he should be fast tracked to the test team. He can really spin the ball. Why has he not been given a go in the test team?

 

[UsmanhailsAfridi]

As much as I dislike Shadab for being the mediocre cricketer then he is, I will never support Usman. It is a matter of principle.

He couldn’t cut it in FC cricket and started crying, publicly stated that he wanted to play for Australia and after they gave him a reality-check, he came back to Pakistan with his head hanging in shame.

I cannot wait to see good players of spin put him in his place, but even if he proves to be the next Warne, I will never support him.

I don’t detest any cricketer as much as Usman Qadir.

oh look a Pakistan player starts to do well and Mamoon doesn't have it in him to support him...go figure

 

[Bilal_103]

This kid has some talent. Rather than worrying about T20, he should be fast tracked to the test team. He can really spin the ball. Why has he not been given a go in the test team?

I think he lacks control. if he can hit the length consistently he will be a problem in Test matches

 

[Artaxerxes]

Shadab is the best fielder in Pakistan team and he can bat but Usman is better bowler than him.

 

[UzmanBeast]

Shadab makes the team as an all-rounder, Usman as a spinner.

There's not much more to say on this topic.

Shadab has to show good bowling in this PSL, doesn't need to take wickets but I want to see him contain runs. If he can contain runs, then he'd be worth playing alongside Usman Qadir.

However, if Shadab takes both wickets economically and bats well, then he makes the team over Qadir allowing us to slot in another all-rounder or another batsman if needed.

 

[Stewie]

I think he lacks control. if he can hit the length consistently he will be a problem in Test matches

That is a bigger problem in LOI cricket than test cricket because you can come back from a few bad balls. If you look at it, the criteria for test cricket was always bowlers who can bowl wicket taking balls..

Anybody remember Devon Malcolm .. the former England quick? Only played tests because he was as erratic as they come. But he was a force for England test team because of his ability to bowl with fire and get wickets.

 

[Last Monetarist]

This kid has some talent. Rather than worrying about T20, he should be fast tracked to the test team. He can really spin the ball. Why has he not been given a go in the test team?

Leg-spinners that can't bowl a consistent line will always be massacred at test level. You have had immensely successful white ball leg-spinners such as Adil Rashid and Imran Tahir being failures at test level because they had a tendency to bowl two or three long hops per over. It's not comparable with white ball cricket as batsmen aren't obliged to hit out at test level and can afford to patiently wait for the invariable bad balls.

If Yasir Shah gets heavily criticized because of his failure to maintain pressure, Usman Qadir would have no chance at adapting unless he has bowled thousands of overs in first-class cricket and learned how to bowl a consistent line and have confidence that he can land his stock ball.

 

[hitthestump]

At this point Shadab doesn't make the team in any discipline except fielding so there isn't much to debate.

The spot is now Usman's and Shadab will have to take it from him by performing well when he gets the chance. PSL will be his opportunity i suppose.

 

[Abdullah719]

Usman Qadir would have no chance at adapting unless he has bowled thousands of overs in first-class cricket and learned how to bowl a consistent line and have confidence that he can land his stock ball.

He has played 3 FC matches since 2014.

 

[shaz72]

This kid has some talent. Rather than worrying about T20, he should be fast-tracked to the test team. He can really spin the ball. Why has he not been given a go in the test team?

Brother, it's too early for him to fast track wait for few more games. He hasn't played domestic 4 days long enough to merit his selection in the Test team. I agree with you he does spin the ball, either way, better than Yasir.

 

[Stewie]

Leg-spinners that can't bowl a consistent line will always be massacred at test level. You have had immensely successful white ball leg-spinners such as Adil Rashid and Imran Tahir being failures at test level because they had a tendency to bowl two or three long hops per over. It's not comparable with white ball cricket as batsmen aren't obliged to hit out at test level and can afford to patiently wait for the invariable bad balls.

If Yasir Shah gets heavily criticized because of his failure to maintain pressure, Usman Qadir would have no chance at adapting unless he has bowled thousands of overs in first-class cricket and learned how to bowl a consistent line and have confidence that he can land his stock ball.

Fair points. My comments are based on a personal liking or gut feel for this kid. It’s not like I’m
In a position of authority. I feel he is better than Adil Rashid sort of bowlers. Adil was a flattish bowler. He showed signs of not being afraid of giving it a bit of flight although he needs to do more.

 

[Canistani Hero]

We can fit them both if Shadab bats in the top 6

 

[Stewie]

Brother, it's too early for him to fast track wait for few more games. He hasn't played domestic 4 days long enough to merit his selection in the Test team. I agree with you he does spin the ball, either way, better than Yasir.

Yeah we could wait. But we never felt the need to do it with amir. And some other good bowlers.

Honestly speaking this is a very subjective topic. If you stick with the conventional wisdom, yes he needs to do the hard yards but sometimes players get picked on a gut feeling and good LOI performances carry them to tests. ashwin for india was one such player and he did extremely well in tests.

So we won’t go neither here or there with this debate but I’m glad to see the general consensus on his abilities is very positive.

 

[Ahmed_99]

I do agree that he felt entitled for a spot earlier on given who he is. However, unfortunately we don't have too many decent spin options so I think he does need to be backed. Regardless of likes or dislikes, when you look at it objectively, he has bowled very well in the matches he's played. I was very impressed since he's a genuine attacking spinner which we've not seen for so long since Ajmal

 

[Stewie]

With Mushy and Saqi as coaches, I think he can get a lot better provided we stick with him.

 

[aloo paratha]

Both should play. Shadab has good all round abilities, and is still a decent leggie in T20 cricket.

6. Shadab
7. Imad
8. Faheem
9. Hasan
10. Qadir
11. Shaheen

This could be the lower order for the WT20 later this year.

 

[Bilal_103]

Both should play. Shadab has good all round abilities, and is still a decent leggie in T20 cricket.

6. Shadab
7. Imad
8. Faheem
9. Hasan
10. Qadir
11. Shaheen

This could be the lower order for the WT20 later this year.

I dont think shadab can bat at 6

 

[aloo paratha]

At this point Shadab doesn't make the team in any discipline except fielding so there isn't much to debate.

The spot is now Usman's and Shadab will have to take it from him by performing well when he gets the chance. PSL will be his opportunity i suppose.

Shadab averages 22.6 with an ER of 7.3. Plus his batting has improved tremendously, as seen in PSL, NT20 Cup, and 1st T20 against NZ. How exactly does he not fit in the T20I team?

 

[MHN1293]

kinda agree... so wat abt Sami Aslam and half of SA team? esp players who now want to play for SA again given kolpak has rolled back

Sami aslam has a completely different case. Someone like masood who average in the low 20s was preferred over him and then 40 year old abid ali who barely averaged 40 in first class cricket. Not to mention imran butt. Maybe he shouldnt have reacted the way he did but he was hard done by. Compare that to qadir who couldnt succeed in first class in pakistan then made all the drama of leaving pak just because he was justly not selected. And once he realized he couldnt make it for aus he came back to pak.

 

[aloo paratha]

I dont think shadab can bat at 6

He did very well in the PSL at 5. I think he'll be fine. We're not blessed with great finishers anyways.

 

[MHN1293]

Shadab can still fit into the team as a better batsmen then kushdil shah.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I think expectations about Usman Qadir should be tempered. Just because he is spinning it and taking wickets now does not mean he will be spinning it and taking wickets a few months from now. The list of spinners that burst onto the scene only to get found out soon after is too long.

As long as he is performing I don't see the problem in dropping Shadab over him because Shadab has been terrible as of late. But at the same time we shouldn't forget that he struggled to get picked in domestic cricket for a number of years, openly said he wanted to play for Australia, essentially failed in Australian domestic cricket and then made it to the national side after some improved performances in domestic. There's nothing here that suggests that this guy is the next Warne.

 

[Nado_]

Whilst I agree that from what we’ve seen Usman look superior: accuracy with stock ball and variation, genuine spin and not scared to slow up and give flight. However pitch was in his favour and would be interesting to know how Shadab would have done on the pitch.

 

[Titan24]

Rashid Latif put forward and interesting point while comparing both. He said that Qadir is not being read currently and batsmen are completely being bamboozled but, if they start picking his balls going forward than at this pace it can be easy for them to do so. While for Shadab he said that as he is quick in the air that is why even now when his variations are known he gets to deceive some really good batsmen on his good days.

Qadir currently struggles when he tries to ball it faster to get it in the right areas, so this is something he can really work on to remain effective. Someone like Kuldeep was also extremely effective in his first year or two with slower pace and flight but then it has become bit difficult for him to create impact once batsmen started picking him and he coudnt control when tried a quicker pace. So definitely something Usman needs to consider in the long run.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

His bowling is good, especially his variations, his leg break and googly spin a lot. But he bowls ball by ball and over to over, rather than spell to spell.
Such approach will come handy in t20s but will shelve his chances of success in ODIs and Tests, just like figures suggest.

He bowls over for over and doesn't know the art of being patient and setting up batters during the spell. He knows the batters are going to come after him and it's you miss and i hit approach. He will get wickets and can be economical in t20s this way, but in ODIs, batters would just be fine with taking singles off him, similarly in tests, he will suffer by giving away singles easily.

The test career of Sunil Narine and Rashid Khan, Tabraiz Shamsi and even Imran Tahir has suffered due to this approach. Usman's skill set is probably inferior to the above mentioned guys. Rashid Khan has only taken wickets against Ireland(newbies in tests) and a green mamba against Ban(also not a very good test team). He was defused with ease by India and WI.

 

[shamaan]

Bearing in mind the next t20 tournament i would defonitely play qadir and Shadab

 

[shamaan]

I think he lacks control. if he can hit the length consistently he will be a problem in Test matches

he bowled really well today thiers was dew but he control his length perfectly

 

[shamaan]

Shadab makes the team as an all-rounder, Usman as a spinner.

There's not much more to say on this topic.

Shadab has to show good bowling in this PSL, doesn't need to take wickets but I want to see him contain runs. If he can contain runs, then he'd be worth playing alongside Usman Qadir.

However, if Shadab takes both wickets economically and bats well, then he makes the team over Qadir allowing us to slot in another all-rounder or another batsman if needed.

if we look at the wt20 its being played in india you need wicket takers so id play both shadab and qadir

 

[shamaan]

At this point Shadab doesn't make the team in any discipline except fielding so there isn't much to debate.

The spot is now Usman's and Shadab will have to take it from him by performing well when he gets the chance. PSL will be his opportunity i suppose.

can shadab not play as a all rounder in asain conditions ?

 

[Mainul]

It is like comparing a crow with a peacock regarding beauty. Usman is a genuine leg spinner with all the varieties in his armory. You have to label Shadab as a leg spinner otherwise it will be not possible for anyone seeing him first to identify him as a leg spinner. Usman bowls in right length consistently while Shadab is a spray gun. Even Tendulkar was a much better leg spinner than Shadab. But but Shadab will be picked for another decade before the dumb selectors will be able to identify these factors.

 

[moghul]

Usman is a proper leggie , Shadab is a bits and pieces cricketer, like Faheem.

 

[Junaids]

Is this regarding their bowling or all-round abilities?

How many years were Mushtaq Mohammad and Intikhab Alam in the same team?

One was a capable batsman and decent part-time spinner.

The other was a full-time spinner who could bat at Number 8.

Shadab would always be in my Test team at Number 7, with Faheem at 8.

Usman Qadir - who really batted well in Australian grade cricket - needs to get some First class wickets to compete with Sajid Khan and Nauman Ali for a specialist spinner slot when one is needed.

 

[Last Monetarist]

He has played 3 FC matches since 2014.

Yes. Qadir will need to play 20-25 first class matches before he can be considered for the test team. With the current first class schedule, it's not likely that he'll have a chance to play consistently.

It needs to be reiterated that the skills that make a leg-spinner successful at test level (consistency in line and a wicket-taking stock delivery) don't readily translate into white ball cricket, as spinners need to be less predictable.

Given his lack of interest thus far in first-class cricket, we should focus on making him a white ball specialist, he's too old to be developed into a test-class leg spinner.

 

[Mamoon]

If I were a professional cricketer and I would have left Pakistan with the intention of representing another international team in spite of the fact that my father is a Pakistani legend and the other international team would be playing a lot of matches against Pakistan, I would also not deserve to get picked again for Pakistan.

It is not Pakistan’s problem that Usman Qadir got humiliated like no tomorrow in Australia and got a lovely dose of reality.

He has no business playing for Pakistan. It is not what he wants, and it is not what he deserves.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Usman may not be a good person and may not be proud of representing Pakistan but he has been picked for some reason and till now he's been doing his job. As long as he keeps doing well, I have no problem whether he likes Pakistan or not.

Regarding saying he wants to play for Australia, he was way too outspoken for that and deservedly got a lot of flak for it. But he is not the only Pakistani who has foulmouthed Pakistan and bragged about leaving Pakistan and settling in another country. Just because he is a sportsman, his words got noted and did some rounds.

 

[Hasan]

UQ is a wonderfully talented bowler and like his father has a excellent wrong un. If managed properly he could have a promising future with the Pak side across various formats.

 

[UzmanBeast]

It is like comparing a crow with a peacock regarding beauty. Usman is a genuine leg spinner with all the varieties in his armory. You have to label Shadab as a leg spinner otherwise it will be not possible for anyone seeing him first to identify him as a leg spinner. Usman bowls in right length consistently while Shadab is a spray gun. Even Tendulkar was a much better leg spinner than Shadab. But but Shadab will be picked for another decade before the dumb selectors will be able to identify these factors.

Shadab is a good bowling but his bowling form has declined severely.

He was bowling extremely well a few years ago, it's just declined since he picked up the bat.

Usman is yet to face players who can read spin at the international level. Compare his domestic T20 stats and his international stats, and you see that when he's being read, he's not as attacking as he seems at the international level.

Shadab is a leg-spinner with an off-spinner's action, short runup, focuses on firing it in to create dots. Every time Shadab tosses it up, he takes a beating, and so his bowling style is more about bowling it on a decent length and getting some spin. He has 50 wickets to his name, so I doubt he will be replaced entirely.

The best case scenario is to play both of them, but then Imad misses out.

But Shadab isn't as bad as some people are making him out to be. He's just 22 as well, so keep that in mind as well. He's been identified for the future, he peaked at age 20 or so, and he needs to just bowl consistently now. If he doesn't take wickets, he needs to keep a good ER.

 

[ChTab]

Shahdab's start to his international career was just as good as Usman's the real problem with Pakistani players is that after 6 months or 1 year of decent to the good performance they become complacent & stop trying to improve themselves hence we see such mediocre performance from most of our players. Usman Qadir will be no different he will eventually become complacent & will start bowling crap, I still prefer Shahdab because he can bat a bit & he is a very good fielder.

 

[ChTab]

UQ is a wonderfully talented bowler and like his father has a excellent wrong un. If managed properly he could have a promising future with the Pak side across various formats.

so far he has performed well vs Zim & SA's D team, please hold your horses.

 

[Bigboii]

^
Just look at his fitness if he is not taking pro cricket seriously rn what do we expect him to do after becoming a "star"...

 

[Hasan]

so far he has performed well vs Zim & SA's D team, please hold your horses.

Is he talented - yes
Does he have a deceptively good wrong in - yes
If managed properly could he be a valuable player - probably

Do not see the basis for your objection.

 

[nam]

Usman has a natural loop which definitely gives him edge in leg spin bowling. However Shadab is a complete package. Who says you cant plan two leggies?

 

[azimiqbal]

The more I watch him , The more I think Usman is suited to the longer version of the game

 

[Mamoon]

Is he talented - yes
Does he have a deceptively good wrong in - yes
If managed properly could he be a valuable player - probably

Do not see the basis for your objection.

Shadab also had a wonderful googly in 2017 and troubled West Indies batsmen in his breakthrough season.

However, when he started to play the top batsmen, he looked average and now his googly is barely a threat.

That over to Bairstow and Morgan in the T20 last summer is the only time in the last couple of years where his googly has looked dangerous against good batsmen.

Usman’s real test will be teams like India and England. They will read him from his hand and get to the pitch off the ball.

That South African guy who played at number 3 the other day. I bet a 15 year old Asian spinner can outfox him on Asian pitches. He looked shocking, and it really shows how poor the domestic spinners in South Africa are.

 

[Bewal Express]

Although Shadab wasn't a fierce spinner of his leg break at the U19 level, he had enough to stay interested and keep the batsman honest, but not only has he lost control, his leg spinner has totally disappeared. There maybe many reasons for this- he may be too front on, his wrist comes over and the back of his wrist isn't facing him when he releases the ball but whatever it is, it's stopping him from spinning his leg spinner.
As far UQ is concerned, there has been a massive improvement in his bowling and let's hope he keeps developing. As I have said on here Googlies don't get good batsman out but good leg spinners do, and we saw yesterday that he has a good leg spinner. Let's see how he develops with his control.

 

[Mamoon]

Shahdab's start to his international career was just as good as Usman's the real problem with Pakistani players is that after 6 months or 1 year of decent to the good performance they become complacent & stop trying to improve themselves hence we see such mediocre performance from most of our players. Usman Qadir will be no different he will eventually become complacent & will start bowling crap, I still prefer Shahdab because he can bat a bit & he is a very good fielder.

Like Shadab, Usman has already started his career against novice players of spin. Shadab’s bowling was exposed 2018 onwards when he started to play against the big boys.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Shadab is very important to this side because of his batting + fielding abilities. We have seen the difference Faheem made and Shadab is even more consistent with the bat in the longer formats.

Also it's too early for Qadir. Why we start hyping up everyone after one good game or tournament?

Pakistan has a decent domestic structure now. Let him prove himself there first.

 

[Zaz]

That is a bigger problem in LOI cricket than test cricket because you can come back from a few bad balls. If you look at it, the criteria for test cricket was always bowlers who can bowl wicket taking balls..

Anybody remember Devon Malcolm .. the former England quick? Only played tests because he was as erratic as they come. But he was a force for England test team because of his ability to bowl with fire and get wickets.

Devon malcolm i recall avged 37 with the ball in test cricket

 

[Firebat]

Usman shined for Pakistan but is not deemed good enough to get into Multan's 15-man squad it seems. Would've been nice to see this comparison play out head to head

At least Shadab is making his return to competitive cricket today. Against the likes of Rizwan, Lynn, Vince, Rossouw, he will have to be at the top of his game

 

[Firebat]

Rossouw has absolutely smashed Shadab into the stratosphere for 2 consecutive 6's. First one was 104m long

 

[Firebat]

And Shadab gets him the very next ball!

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[90MPH]

The biggest problem and concern I have with Shadab is that his leg spinner is not exsistent, if it’s there it just doesn’t turn.

This was not the case 4 years ago so if your main stock delivery is out of your armoury you can become cannon fodder in any format.

Saqlain Mustaq towards the end of his career focused far too much on his variations like the doosra but as a result his big spinning off break just disappeared.

You need to remember what made you a bowler in the first place. Shadab needs to get his basics right - accuracy and his main weapon.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Usman shined for Pakistan but is not deemed good enough to get into Multan's 15-man squad it seems. Would've been nice to see this comparison play out head to head

I don’t get the logic here. They didn’t play Imran Tahir either so it was clearly a case of matchups and team combination. That’s fair.

Just by the way, he didn’t get into the playing XI. The remaining 4 names were listed as backups for fielding, has nothing to do with “who the top 15 cricketers to make a squad are”.

 

[Line and Length]

Usman shined for Pakistan but is not deemed good enough to get into Multan's 15-man squad it seems. Would've been nice to see this comparison play out head to head

At least Shadab is making his return to competitive cricket today. Against the likes of Rizwan, Lynn, Vince, Rossouw, he will have to be at the top of his game

The Karachi pitch seems to be offering more assistance to the seamers right now. I think we'll see more of Usman and Zahid once the tournament progresses, especially once it moves to Lahore.

 

[Junaids]

I never understand the disdain that people have for Shadab as a TEST cricketer.

Shadab had a disappointing Test debut at the age of 18 in a single Test in the West Indies.

Since then, Shadab has played 5 Tests, of which 4 were in the British isles and 1 in South Africa.

And this is Shadab's record since his debut Test:

5 Tests
13 wickets in 119 overs at an average of 28.30
Strike Rate 54.9
Economy Rate 3.09
Batting average 40.42

That's a world class record for a spin bowling all-rounder.

When you look Test by Test it's even better!

55 and 4 not out, 3-31 and 1-63

52 and dnb, 0-34 and 2-63

56 and 4, 1-50

5 and 47 not out, 1-39 and 3-41

45 and 15, 2-13 and 0-34

So why do these discussions even occur? That's a really good record.

 

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Usman Qadir brought into the team for Multan today. Let's see if he can bring what they were missing last time round

 

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Usman Qadir takes the vital wicket of Kamran Akmal with his 3rd ball of PSL6. We're still in Karachi right?

 

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I don’t get the logic here. They didn’t play Imran Tahir either so it was clearly a case of matchups and team combination. That’s fair.

Just by the way, he didn’t get into the playing XI. The remaining 4 names were listed as backups for fielding, has nothing to do with “who the top 15 cricketers to make a squad are”.

The logic is that I think he was good enough to make a wicket-taking difference in an otherwise lacklustre Multan bowling attack. We saw Rashid Khan and Afridi succeed on that pitch, and I believe Qadir would have been a huge asset off the back of the good T20 form he was showing for Pakistan.

As for the 15 man squad thing, I take your point, bad call from me.

 

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